Team Pilipinas Basketball

[launchpad]

if i were to be in their shoes, i would rather play for flag and country.

 

unlike before playing for the country doesnt warrant anything or pay so its a good thing now, the pba is a dying league. i mean who watches it anymore compare before and look at how long a player gets to play in a league of only what 7-8 teams who couldnt even get their attendance up.

 

even the airing of the games seems to be encountering problems of which channel because the tv stations doesnt see it as profitable anymore warranting a long air time.

 

doesnt playing international ball gets your game to a different level? your competing with teams, players who not just compete in asia but also the rest of the world. i would preserve that to myself and play in the pba after to the point gilas doesnt want you anymore, if you got ball which im sure youll have after he gilas experience still you could get a team even if your old compare to the young rookies.

 

pba . . . hanggang luzon na lang nga, hindi pa pinapanood sa mga bahay sa province ng karamihan,

Edited August 19, 2011 by launchpad

[catsumhoto]

best for them to turn pro...... nakathird tayo.... inspite of that im not expecting us to fare better than third place come the asian qualifying for the olympics.... even if you add kelly williams, ranidel, alapag, slaughter, they still cannot match up to the bigs of other countries.... rmember wala p s jones cup yong china, WHICH INSPITE OF YAO'S RETIREMENT, wont affect the team that much.... then there is lebanon and the arab countries that didn"t participate.... last asian games naka 7th place tayo.... JAPAN merely send a token team in the tournament compose of collegiate players.... and there are other Asian countries like the former soviet state.... lets face it suntok talaga s buwan etong team.... might as well spend the money in other sports.....

 

best for them to turn pro...... nakathird tayo.... inspite of that im not expecting us to fare better than third place come the asian qualifying for the olympics.... even if you add kelly williams, ranidel, alapag, slaughter, they still cannot match up to the bigs of other countries.... rmember wala p s jones cup yong china, WHICH INSPITE OF YAO'S RETIREMENT, wont affect the team that much.... then there is lebanon and the arab countries that didn"t participate.... last asian games naka 7th place tayo.... JAPAN merely send a token team in the tournament compose of collegiate players.... and there are other Asian countries like the former soviet state.... lets face it suntok talaga s buwan etong team.... might as well spend the money in other sports.....

 

best for them to turn pro...... nakathird tayo.... inspite of that im not expecting us to fare better than third place come the asian qualifying for the olympics.... even if you add kelly williams, ranidel, alapag, slaughter, they still cannot match up to the bigs of other countries.... rmember wala p s jones cup yong china, WHICH INSPITE OF YAO'S RETIREMENT, wont affect the team that much.... then there is lebanon and the arab countries that didn"t participate.... last asian games naka 7th place tayo.... JAPAN merely send a token team in the tournament compose of collegiate players.... and there are other Asian countries like the former soviet state.... lets face it suntok talaga s buwan etong team.... might as well spend the money in other sports.....

[pinoywritingfool]

well intindihin na lang din natin ang players ... basketball is their means of livelihood. They have their own personal motive. While they may want to be patriotic, they also want to think about their future or as some may claim live their dream to play in the PBA.

 

Ang akin is ok lang naman na mag pro ang mga yan as long as they would still be willing to play for flag and country when called. Karamihan naman ng national players of different countries now play for professional clubs (except for those still in school) and not exclusively for the national team. Un iba kasi eventually ang dami nang rason kapag iniimbitahan maglaro para sa bansa.

Well, they already earn as much as they would if they joined the PBA kasi 150,000/month ang stipend ng Gilas players... which is the maximum they can get sa rookie contract nila with the PBA. And not everyone will get the maximum. Di yata bibigyan ng 150,000/month ng kahit sinong PBA team si Ababou o Ballesteros.

 

Also, playing for Gilas means playing less games. Playing less games mean being able to play longer.

[khilua23]

STATEMENT FROM JV CASIO:

 

My joining the DRAFT was my decision even before GILAS announced the program extension. I'm very grateful with my stint with the NATIONAL TEAM as ,u game really improved a lot and joining the DRAFT doesn't mean I'm turning my back as this will hone my talent even more. I'm also for unity between SBP, GILAS, and PBA in forming the best team every time there's an international competition to show that we're really the best in ASIA. So anytime my services will be needed by the NATIONAL TEAM... I'll always be very willing to join them. Right now my focus is with the team as we prepare for the FIBA ASIA which is really our goal as we look forward to making it to the OLYMPICS. Thanks everyone for the understanding and support!

[rafael77]

what the stupid f#&k is that?!! their contract is a month short of their main goal which the olympic qualifier? and tanga naman! naman they have to start from scratch to play the qualifier a month from now? what foresight!!!

[KillTheDEVIL]

What will happen to this team now?

[launchpad]

unless the pba can improve its status as the prime professional basketball league in the country, all i can say its already a dead end. why?

 

players from the pba only excel in their own field. the level of play sucks as we go, as you all know they are called professional ballers. but when the time comes to play international ball or play at a higher level of basketball where do we see our team?

 

they cant get their game going? they cant adjust , they cant even step up when the call for it. sabihin pa ng coach na how can we win when nakasanayan nila is sa pilipinas lang maglaro, kesyo ang dapat lang nila talunin lagi is san miguel beer that bullshit.

 

so your telling me that team usa who plays 82 games of nba ball in a year extending the playoffs , pre season workout, pre season games etc etc desnt have the time to adjust to international ball when called upon to play ?

 

example na lang sa tagal tagal na ng pba na nagpapadala ng players sa ibang bansa till now na mag 40 years old na si asi wala pa rin makitang kapalit na big man!

 

even with 150k a month as compare to the pba na mas malaki, i may have the max contract in the pba on my first contrac but i may not live to see my career end like it should end. look at bono after being drafted and getting a 3 yrs contract which is a lot where is he now? la liga pilipinas

 

sa akin huling baraha ko na ang pba, sa exposure sa level ng international games cguradong gagaling at gagaling ka kung sa pba lang ang usapan ah.

 

even if i am 30 yrs old, and im competitive sa international ball tingin mo ba hindi ka pipiliin compare sa isang collegiate na player? what is 20-30 points sa uaap or ncaa compare to 10-15 points in the international level of play.

Edited August 22, 2011 by launchpad

[pinoywritingfool]

Well I'm not privy to those figures ... but from what I've read somewhere that not all get P150K per month. Players in the pool have different contracts (in terms of value).

 

But for discussion purpose, let us say they really are all paid P150K per month ... well in the PBA only the first year is subject to a rookie scale. Usually blue chipper would negotiate for a 2-3 year contract wherein the 1st year is 150K and it escalates on the 2nd and 3rd year. For example, in the case of BGK rookies, this is what I got from wikepedia "Wilson and Aquino were given similar two-year contracts worth P5.7 million, while Labagala got a one-year deal worth P800,000 thousand." If you will compute for their (Wilson and Aquino's) 2 year contract the ave is 237,500 per month for 2 years ... this translates to a salary of 150K a month for the 1st year and goes up to 325k on the second. So based on the example I've shown, clearly maliit un binabayad ng Gilas na 150K a month for 2 years.

 

So what is the point that I am driving at ... well, blue chipper like Casio and the Fil Ams may get bigger contracts and security (in terms of the # of years) signing with a team in the PBA. Yes Gilas did match what they can possibly get on the 1st year but is it willing to match what these players can possibly get on a 2-3 years contract playing in the PBA? As far as the "role players" on the Gilas team is concerned (ie. Ababou as you mentioned) well if Gilas indeed paid him 150K a month and we know that he is not worth that much, If I am Ababou then I would want to keep playing with Gilas however we all know that he is not among the players includes in the "being retained" list.

 

As far as the claim that playing for Gilas means being able to play longer since the team plays less games ... well Yes I agree that is a valid point. As for me I will look not only on the actual number of games played but also consider the tough physical grind a player will have to go through playing international ball. We know the level of competition in international games is tougher not to players have to play successive games on a daily basis. This could also be a cause for wear and tear thus players become more injury prone thus also the threat of a short-lived career.

Good points on the salary thing.

 

Would it makes just as much sense if they get P250,000/month, as is the supposed "new offer" from Gilas?

 

Also, I agree that playing 8 intense and highly physical games in 8 days is no walk in the park, but the PBA schedule is just as brutal. Also, I'm not so sure I'd say that international games are tougher than PBA games. The skill level may be higher but a sprained ankle hurts just as bad whether you get it playing in the PBA or in FIBA.

Edited August 22, 2011 by pinoywritingfool

[KillTheDEVIL]

Who will be the main players after the draft?

[khilua23]

Who will be the main players after the draft?

 

start from scratch.. main player, still chris tiu.. they may reactivate greg slaughter, aldrich ramos... then add some fil ams..

[KillTheDEVIL]

Good points on the salary thing.

 

Would it makes just as much sense if they get P250,000/month, as is the supposed "new offer" from Gilas?

 

Also, I agree that playing 8 intense and highly physical games in 8 days is no walk in the park, but the PBA schedule is just as brutal. Also, I'm not so sure I'd say that international games are tougher than PBA games. The skill level may be higher but a sprained ankle hurts just as bad whether you get it playing in the PBA or in FIBA.

 

250k is good enough. The Top Rookie gets only 175k during the first year right?

[pinoywritingfool]

Yes maybe it will make a difference ... then aagin the PBA will include in its agenda (for their upcoming planning session) the new salary cap for each teams as well as the possibility of increasing the 350K/month max salary for a player. A possible counter move by the PBA???

I certainly think so.

 

Parang yung ginawa ng Petron, para hindi mabili ng Phoenix Petroleum yung franchise nung Red Bull.

[pinoywritingfool]

start from scratch.. main player, still chris tiu.. they may reactivate greg slaughter, aldrich ramos... then add some fil ams..

Yeah, tsaka si RR Herrera. Oddly enough, parang di pa ready si Bobby Ray Parks although I'd take a chance on Kiefer Ravena, Arnold Van Opstal and Norbert Torres.

[khilua23]

Yeah, tsaka si RR Herrera. Oddly enough, parang di pa ready si Bobby Ray Parks although I'd take a chance on Kiefer Ravena, Arnold Van Opstal and Norbert Torres.

 

baka si rr garcia ang ibig mo sabihin...

[dfgvan]

rr herrera??? di ba child star yun dati????