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SABOG ka ba? This is Wishfull Thinking IDOL!

 

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Aso, kindly tell me what your basis is for saying that this wishful thinking? Many didn't think Iran could be an Asian power. Look what happened? Haddadi simply dominated Yi and it's not far-fetched that he could do the same to Yao. Pipe dream ba para sayo? Siguro para sayo since my posts are negative to you. It figures since I've always humiliated you.

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Aso, kindly tell me what your basis is for saying that this wishful thinking? Many didn't think Iran could be an Asian power. Look what happened? Haddadi simply dominated Yi and it's not far-fetched that he could do the same to Yao. Pipe dream ba para sayo? Siguro para sayo since my posts are negative to you. It figures since I've always humiliated you.

 

 

If I'm the DOG then ur the DOG s@%t (harharharhar)...

 

Here goes your shallowness in analytics or mere stupidity. So are you categorically stating that Hamed is the better player than Yi just because Haddadi's team "dominate" Yi in the 2009? Was he able to do that consistently specially they both play in the same league... the NBA. As far as Haddadi being able to dominate YAO. Well that is a possibility but how realistic is that? When will that happen? When YAO is injured or way past his prime? At this point, YAO is still the best Chinese cager.

 

So what if many thinks that Iran could not become an Asian power and become one? Does that translate to Aguilar and Slaughter becoming dominant Asian force too? Haddadi is 25 and Aguilar is 23 so both are of the same basketball generation. Look where HADDADI is now in terms of his career and look where Aguilar is. Tell me, ang improvement ba sa basketball overnight? Does development (major) happen when you're in your 20's or earlier on? Haddadi has a vast international exposure when he was younger as he represented and won championships at the Asian level when he was 20 y.o and below. Can Aguilar boast of such exposure? Don't tell me that he played NCAA basketball coz am not sure how relevant that would be to his career. The fact of the matter is, the guy could not even dominate the UAAP.

 

If this is just a numbers game, YES I would AGREE with you that Aguilar and Slaughter could one day hold their own against YAO and YI. That is because probability-wise it is possible even if the chance is very slim to almost none. But hey, this is not about statistics so BE REAL. As a fellow Filipino, who would not want that to happen. But it probably won't.

 

Now I've presented my Basis ... if you have a dissenting opinion then probably its about time to lay your basis based on the individual qualifications of the 2 gentlemen. What you just did is PURELY SPECULATION. That's why its WISHFUL THINKING!!!

 

But, as always I know you can't control your emotions and can't match intellectual arguments so bring on your personal attacks and namecallings. You're Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo predictable!!

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Aso, kindly tell me what your basis is for saying that this wishful thinking? Many didn't think Iran could be an Asian power. Look what happened? Haddadi simply dominated Yi and it's not far-fetched that he could do the same to Yao. Pipe dream ba para sayo? Siguro para sayo since my posts are negative to you. It figures since I've always humiliated you.

I'm sticking to my guns: I think it would be to SG's advantage if Aguilar is developed in the SF position.

 

Within the foreseeable future, best to have a naturalized import deal with Haddadi and Yao (and Yi) in the center spot. There simply isnt time to get Slaughter (or Aguilar) to that level. Baka by 2016, siguro, but not likely by 2012.

 

However, at 6'9", and athleticism to boot, Aguilar can dominate the SF position today. Simply putting it, mas angat ang laro ni Aguilar (sa SF position) contra sa Asian powerhouses. (Should I dare say it?) baka nga, even enough to be noticed by the Euroleague. Again, I think the only thing missing from Aguilar's game to do this is consistency in his mid-range and long-range jump shots. Di na bale ung 3-points, sila Lassiter, Casio, Barcael at Tiu na bahala dun; meaning, we have an abundance of guards to get the job done.

 

As for Greg Slaughter, again palagay ko mas madami pang exposure ang kailangan nya. Definitely good enough today as a reliever, that's for sure, but not enough to be the mainstay center, at least not until the next 2 or 3 years.

 

Which means in my mind, sino ang magiging mainstay PF? Al-Husseini, Ballesteros?

 

Just to wet our imaginations a bit....

 

What if, ito ang naging starting line up ng SG?

 

C - (unnamed 7-foot import)

PF - Greg Slaughter

SF - Japeth Aguilar

SG - Kelly Williams

PG - Marcio Lassiter

 

Maski saan mong league dalhin ang line-up na iyan, hindi tayo na tayo dehado sa size! he he he

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I'm sticking to my guns: I think it would be to SG's advantage if Aguilar is developed in the SF position.-In the meantime that we still don't have a naturalized player, Coach T could use Rabeh at the PF slot with Japeth at the SF spot.

Within the foreseeable future, best to have a naturalized import deal with Haddadi and Yao (and Yi) in the center spot. There simply isnt time to get Slaughter (or Aguilar) to that level. Baka by 2016, siguro, but not likely by 2012.-I still believe that in due time these 2 could hold a candle to Yao and Yi. Of course, I wasn't thinking of our naturalized player when I said this.

 

However, at 6'9", and athleticism to boot, Aguilar can dominate the SF position today. Simply putting it, mas angat ang laro ni Aguilar (sa SF position) contra sa Asian powerhouses. (Should I dare say it?) baka nga, even enough to be noticed by the Euroleague. Again, I think the only thing missing from Aguilar's game to do this is consistency in his mid-range and long-range jump shots. Di na bale ung 3-points, sila Lassiter, Casio, Barcael at Tiu na bahala dun; meaning, we have an abundance of guards to get the job done.-Aguilar could give problems to other small forwards since he is, after all, a tall small forward.

 

As for Greg Slaughter, again palagay ko mas madami pang exposure ang kailangan nya. Definitely good enough today as a reliever, that's for sure, but not enough to be the mainstay center, at least not until the next 2 or 3 years.-I didn't give a timeline when but with Toroman's guidance, he could equal and perhaps even surpass Haddadi.

 

Which means in my mind, sino ang magiging mainstay PF? Al-Husseini, Ballesteros?

 

Just to wet our imaginations a bit....

 

What if, ito ang naging starting line up ng SG?

 

C - (unnamed 7-foot import)-assuming 7-feet

PF - Greg Slaughter-7 feet

SF - Japeth Aguilar-6'9

SG - Kelly Williams-6'6

PG - Marcio Lassiter-I assume he's at least a 6-footer.

Actually, with this line-up, pang NBA and height so definitely hindi tayo dehado sa size

 

Maski saan mong league dalhin ang line-up na iyan, hindi tayo na tayo dehado sa size! he he he

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I'm sticking to my guns: I think it would be to SG's advantage if Aguilar is developed in the SF position.

 

Within the foreseeable future, best to have a naturalized import deal with Haddadi and Yao (and Yi) in the center spot. There simply isnt time to get Slaughter (or Aguilar) to that level. Baka by 2016, siguro, but not likely by 2012.

 

However, at 6'9", and athleticism to boot, Aguilar can dominate the SF position today. Simply putting it, mas angat ang laro ni Aguilar (sa SF position) contra sa Asian powerhouses. (Should I dare say it?) baka nga, even enough to be noticed by the Euroleague. Again, I think the only thing missing from Aguilar's game to do this is consistency in his mid-range and long-range jump shots. Di na bale ung 3-points, sila Lassiter, Casio, Barcael at Tiu na bahala dun; meaning, we have an abundance of guards to get the job done.

 

As for Greg Slaughter, again palagay ko mas madami pang exposure ang kailangan nya. Definitely good enough today as a reliever, that's for sure, but not enough to be the mainstay center, at least not until the next 2 or 3 years.

 

Which means in my mind, sino ang magiging mainstay PF? Al-Husseini, Ballesteros?

 

Just to wet our imaginations a bit....

 

What if, ito ang naging starting line up ng SG?

 

C - (unnamed 7-foot import)

PF - Greg Slaughter

SF - Japeth Aguilar

SG - Kelly Williams

PG - Marcio Lassiter

 

Maski saan mong league dalhin ang line-up na iyan, hindi tayo na tayo dehado sa size! he he he

 

 

Aguilar playing the SF position ...quite a BOLD vision.

 

Yes the triple tower combination may look good on paper but may cause defensive match-up problems for us too. Looking into the Asian level, the prototype SF for the powerhouse teams like China, Korea, Iran, Lebanon and Japan are probably at least 6'7-6'9", quick and has a good shooting range at least from the perimeter and possibly the 3 pt area. Defensively playing the ZONE on a slow break, this triple tower frontcourt line-up may be tough to penetrate. But the problem lies on how quick Aguilar is to defend man to man. DO you think he has the foot speed/agility for a true SF? For example, just look at the possible match-up of Kelly W and Aguilar in the SF position. Can Japeth dominate Williams defensively moreso offensively?

 

Aguilar can play the SF but also the PF position depending on the match-up. Williams if he is drafted and allowed to play should be a good candidate for the starting SF position.

 

At the end of the day, this is a team game. The Aguilars or the Slaughters may not necessary need to held their own or dominate aginst the YAOs or the YIs. Kahit dehado tayo sa galing man for man but as long as each team member plays thier assigned roles and help each other out may laban tayo. As to how far this will take us ... That is DESTINY!!!

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If I'm the DOG then ur the DOG s@%t (harharharhar)...-desperate attempt at being funny.

 

Here goes your shallowness in analytics or mere stupidity. So are you categorically stating that Hamed is the better player than Yi just because Haddadi's team "dominate" Yi in the 2009? Was he able to do that consistently specially they both play in the same league... the NBA. As far as Haddadi being able to dominate YAO. Well that is a possibility but how realistic is that? When will that happen? When YAO is injured or way past his prime? At this point, YAO is still the best Chinese cager.-Sinabi ko bang better player si Hamed kay Yi? In that game, Hamed dominated Yi. Manood ka bago magcomment. Bobo!

 

So what if many thinks that Iran could not become an Asian power and become one? Does that translate to Aguilar and Slaughter becoming dominant Asian force too? Haddadi is 25 and Aguilar is 23 so both are of the same basketball generation. Look where HADDADI is now in terms of his career and look where Aguilar is. Tell me, ang improvement ba sa basketball overnight? Does development (major) happen when you're in your 20's or earlier on? Haddadi has a vast international exposure when he was younger as he represented and won championships at the Asian level when he was 20 y.o and below. Can Aguilar boast of such exposure? Don't tell me that he played NCAA basketball coz am not sure how relevant that would be to his career. The fact of the matter is, the guy could not even dominate the UAAP.-Look aso, I don't know if Haddadi would have made it to the NBA without Coach Toroman. I believe na mas magaling talaga kung sa talent lang si Japeth at si Slaughter compared to Haddadi. Bobo! He played only a year in the UAAP. Sigurado ka bang he would not have dominated?

If this is just a numbers game, YES I would AGREE with you that Aguilar and Slaughter could one day hold their own against YAO and YI. That is because probability-wise it is possible even if the chance is very slim to almost none. But hey, this is not about statistics so BE REAL. As a fellow Filipino, who would not want that to happen. But it probably won't.-Again, contradicting my opinions coz you simply wanna get back at me. But you obviously can't. I'm way too good for you kaya nga idol mo ko eh.

Now I've presented my Basis ... if you have a dissenting opinion then probably its about time to lay your basis based on the individual qualifications of the 2 gentlemen. What you just did is PURELY SPECULATION. That's why its WISHFUL THINKING!!!-For you it is. Are you also sure beyond reasonable doubt that Slaughter and Japeth wouldn't be able to hold their own against Yi and Yao? Syempre, gusto mong makabawi sa akin kasi parati kang pahiya.

 

But, as always I know you can't control your emotions and can't match intellectual arguments so bring on your personal attacks and namecallings. You're Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo predictable!!-Haha! It's obvious that you're referring to yourself. Read my posts first before commenting coz you're just mortifying yourself.

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If I'm the DOG then ur the DOG s@%t (harharharhar)...-desperate attempt at being funny.

 

Here goes your shallowness in analytics or mere stupidity. So are you categorically stating that Hamed is the better player than Yi just because Haddadi's team "dominate" Yi in the 2009? Was he able to do that consistently specially they both play in the same league... the NBA. As far as Haddadi being able to dominate YAO. Well that is a possibility but how realistic is that? When will that happen? When YAO is injured or way past his prime? At this point, YAO is still the best Chinese cager.-Sinabi ko bang better player si Hamed kay Yi? In that game, Hamed dominated Yi. Manood ka bago magcomment. Bobo!

 

Napanood ko nga...and if I would have agreed to you that indeed Hamed dominated Yi that particular game, so what is your conclusion if you're not saying that Hamed is better than Yi? Ikaw ang nagsabing "Haddadi simply dominated Yi and it's not far-fetched that he could do the same to Yao". What's the point ur driving at??? Mahirap bang sagutin ang tanong ko samantalang ikaw ang nagbigay nga statement na ito?

 

 

So what if many thinks that Iran could not become an Asian power and become one? Does that translate to Aguilar and Slaughter becoming dominant Asian force too? Haddadi is 25 and Aguilar is 23 so both are of the same basketball generation. Look where HADDADI is now in terms of his career and look where Aguilar is. Tell me, ang improvement ba sa basketball overnight? Does development (major) happen when you're in your 20's or earlier on? Haddadi has a vast international exposure when he was younger as he represented and won championships at the Asian level when he was 20 y.o and below. Can Aguilar boast of such exposure? Don't tell me that he played NCAA basketball coz am not sure how relevant that would be to his career. The fact of the matter is, the guy could not even dominate the UAAP.-Look aso, I don't know if Haddadi would have made it to the NBA without Coach Toroman. I believe na mas magaling talaga kung sa talent lang si Japeth at si Slaughter compared to Haddadi. Bobo! He played only a year in the UAAP. Sigurado ka bang he would not have dominated?

 

Well if you don't know if Hemed can make it to the NBA without TOROMAN that is beside the point. Not unless ur abstract logic tells you that since Hamed played under Toroman then Japeth or probably one of the players in Gilas playing for Toroman will become the 1st NBA player from the RP. Now you have PROBLEMS WITH ENGLISH and your FACTS. I said Japeth could not even dominate the UAAP. Having played as you said "ONE YEAR" in the UAAP, did you see him dominating the UAAP when he played? Well I believed I've check my FACTS and clearly he DIDN't DOMINATE. And BTW, Japeth played not ONE but TWO YEARS for the Ateneo in the UAAP. Check your FACTS ... toink! Ikaw tuloy lumalabas na BOBO. ahihihihi.

 

If this is just a numbers game, YES I would AGREE with you that Aguilar and Slaughter could one day hold their own against YAO and YI. That is because probability-wise it is possible even if the chance is very slim to almost none. But hey, this is not about statistics so BE REAL. As a fellow Filipino, who would not want that to happen. But it probably won't.-Again, contradicting my opinions coz you simply wanna get back at me. But you obviously can't. I'm way too good for you kaya nga idol mo ko eh.

 

On the contrary, SABLAY ka nga lagi. Kahit saang thread laging may sumasalungat sa iyo. Can you said the same to me?

 

 

Now I've presented my Basis ... if you have a dissenting opinion then probably its about time to lay your basis based on the individual qualifications of the 2 gentlemen. What you just did is PURELY SPECULATION. That's why its WISHFUL THINKING!!!-For you it is. Are you also sure beyond reasonable doubt that Slaughter and Japeth wouldn't be able to hold their own against Yi and Yao? Syempre, gusto mong makabawi sa akin kasi parati kang pahiya.

 

Yes am sure without reasonable doubt that both players would not be able to hold their own against Yi and Yao. I am not speculating since I based it on thier development record. Aguilar for example if he's good and has the potential to become what you think he would be would have at least dominated the local scene upon his return from the US. Was he able to dominate the local basketball scene todate? Haddadi was able to dominate Yi at least for that single game in 2009. But hey, the guy was signed by Memphis prior to that event making him also a legitimate NBA player. That alone ang layo ng qualifications nila for you to speculate that Japeth and Slaughter will be able to hold their own vs China's bigs.

 

But, as always I know you can't control your emotions and can't match intellectual arguments so bring on your personal attacks and namecallings. You're Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo predictable!!-Haha! It's obvious that you're referring to yourself. Read my posts first before commenting coz you're just mortifying yourself.

 

SOURGRAPING ... DEFENSIVE KA NA NAMAN.

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SOURGRAPING ... DEFENSIVE KA NA NAMAN.

Just as I thought. Autistic. You even have your own warped definition of sourgraping. Haha! Aso, magcheckin ka na sa mental. Mukang lumalala na yung condition mo.

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Just as I thought. Autistic. You even have your own warped definition of sourgraping. Haha! Aso, magcheckin ka na sa mental. Mukang lumalala na yung condition mo.

 

 

Ahihihihihi ...

 

Personal attacks na naman? OKS lang what else is new? BOLJACK ka na naman kasi sa akin HONEY BUNCH. Tameme ka na naman sa FACTS mo ano po? 1 year lang daw naglaro si japeth sa UAAP. Tangek talaga!!!

 

Tapos ano? Hindi mo ma-substantiate kung bakit mo nasabing that Aguilar and Slaughter could one day hold their own against YAO and YI.

 

Lumalabas lang na ikaw ang may problema sa pagiisip di ako. Bwahahahahahaha

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Ahihihihihi ...

 

Personal attacks na naman? OKS lang what else is new? BOLJACK ka na naman kasi sa akin HONEY BUNCH. Tameme ka na naman sa FACTS mo ano po? 1 year lang daw naglaro si japeth sa UAAP. Tangek talaga!!!

 

Tapos ano? Hindi mo ma-substantiate kung bakit mo nasabing that Aguilar and Slaughter could one day hold their own against YAO and YI.

 

Lumalabas lang na ikaw ang may problema sa pagiisip di ako. Bwahahahahahaha

Haha! I already explained yet hindi mo talaga makuha yung sinabi ko. Well, it ain't my problem doggy.

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Haha! I already explained yet hindi mo talaga makuha yung sinabi ko. Well, it ain't my problem doggy.

 

 

Ahihihihi ...

 

you explained? Sorry ha di ko talaga makita kung saan mo inexplain kung paano sa FACTS mo eh 1 year lang kamo naglaro si Japeth sa UAAP.

 

nagtatago ka na naman sa bangungot ng katotohanan.

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Gusto niyong ma report?!?!

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Easy lang mga repa. We are here to discuss our views about this topic. Let's not turn this into something personal. Let's just respect each other's opinions.

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Easy lang mga repa. We are here to discuss our views about this topic. Let's not turn this into something personal. Let's just respect each other's opinions.

 

 

I know ... problem is there are individuals who can't accept dissenting comments on their post. That is prevalent to whatever thread he goes. Worst, instead of arguing with facts he resorts into name calling. So pag sumangayon ka sa kanya, he'll sing praises but otherwise ... you guys see what happened.

 

On topic:

 

As my stand have always been, Gilas is the team that should represent the RP in future international competions. The PBA may have the more established players but obviously in terms of priorities, competing in international tournaments is not on top of thier list. At the end of the day, the objective of the PBA is still to maximize the exposure of its teams.

 

With the players Gilas have, are they competitive or can they finally bring home the bacon? With proper training and exposure yes they can compete. These players maybe "unknown" but in a few years time will most if not all will become hot PBA commodity. As to how much these group of kids can achieve in international tourneys, only time will tell ... that's DESTINY!

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On Aguilar v Williams, one-to-one on the SF, the short answer is, yes.

 

The long answer is, you are right, it is a team game and team defense is the key. It really does depend on how fast one can get up and down the court and defend.

 

However, I am banking on Aguilar's relative youth, athleticism and height v other Asian SF. Na kaya nyang i-dominate ang spot na iyon with relative ease. Again, it will be very hard for anyone to match up (in the Asian level) some who's 6'9", na merong consistent mid-range shot, na alam mo na kapag dinikitan mo ng husto kaya kang pakainin ng alikabok and then finishing it with a slam.

 

But then again, what do I know

Isa lamang akong arm-chair analyst.