Barangay Ginebra Kings

[ray004]

management is wrecking my favorite ball club..

[direstraits94]

ang good side ng pagiging talo baka maisip ng management ng ginebra na palitan na lahat ng coaching staff......nakakawalang gana manood 😩

[Orgen2]

Instead of getting excited watching the game. Naiinis ako everytime I see the coaching staff. Dont know why management still not making any moves. Nahahawa na mga players sa coach. Mga nagkakalat na. Even ung mga reliable players nawawalan ng confidence. Till when? Dont know why Forrester is not getting any playing minutes? Kung ako si Al Francis I will make a move sgainst the management. And Ato sobrang manhid mo naman. Kung ayaw ka palitan ng management, magkusa ka na lang umalis. From now on hindi na ko manonood as long as Ato is the coach. KAKAINIS NA KAYO MGA MANHID...

[junix]

it was a sorry loss for the gin kings...and it was even more pathetic to see the lack of energy or enthusiasm from the players. is there something wrong - internally, with ginebra? 1st quarter pa lang halata nang di maganda ang kahihinatnan ng laro. was it 8 TOs in the 1st quarter alone? para akong nagkaroon ng sore eyes kapapanood. di ko na nga pinanood after ng 2nd quarter. sad to say but rodgers is not the savior ginebra fans have been waiting for. ang layo niya kay v-mack. and urbiztondo?...jj?...caguioa? lahat nagkakalat. i guess it's about time to pass the baton to the young guns. unfortunately wala pa din forrester na naglalaro. even japeth seems to be at a loss on what he's supposed to do. mabuti pa si maierhofer na bangko lang sa ginebra dati, napakinabangan ng smb. baka naman sa ibang team pa natin makita ang galing nitong si forrester? wake up coaching staff...wake up management. unti-unti nang nilalangaw ang mga laro ng ginebra. :angry:

[Richmond]

Yung ibang team parang ginto na sa kanila pag nakakuha sila ng 4th pick sa draft eh Ginebra parang wala lang dami na nasasayang na players na malaki ang potential dahil sa ugok na coaching staff nila.

[RED2018]

Napansin ko rin na nasira ang rhythm ni Japeth...maybe poor players rotation, poor feeding by the guards (except for LA pero napapagod din), or being dislodged by a PF of an import. Kung isang mabagal at over confident na Rodgers lang kakain ng minutes ni Japeth, yari na! Sayang ang pagka-establish ng confidence ni Japeth last season, dapat I-sustain...

[fatchubs]

Napansin ko rin na nasira ang rhythm ni Japeth...maybe poor players rotation, poor feeding by the guards (except for LA pero napapagod din), or being dislodged by a PF of an import. Kung isang mabagal at over confident na Rodgers lang kakain ng minutes ni Japeth, yari na! Sayang ang pagka-establish ng confidence ni Japeth last season, dapat I-sustain...

 

Actually si Rodgers more of SF ang nilalaro. Sa starting 5 si Greg ang sentro at si JR Reyes ang naglalaro as PF. Si JR rin ang tumatao sa import at papalitan siya ni Billy. Si Japeth ang pumapalit kay Greg.

 

Pero last night may times na pinaglaro na rin ng PF si Rodgers siguro dahil masama rin ang nilalaro ni Japeth.

 

Pero sa opinion ko lang hindi isang "do-it-all" import itong si Leon.

Edited March 10, 2014 by fatchubs

[Orgen2]

Prior commissioner's cup sbi nla Rodgers is 3 point shooter with high shooting percentage beyond the arc. 1st game 2/10, second game 0/7. What the heck. Ano ba talaga tong mga coaching staff na to ang tatanga talaga nakakainis na. Imagine 2/17 mas mataas pa ata percentage ni Marlou Aquino at Eric Menk sa 3points kesa kay Rodgers. Naman gising gising naman.

[photographer]

Buti pa San Miguel papalitan kaagad yung import nila. Action kaagad. Hindi na naghihintay. Pero kaso nagpakita ng gilas. Sa Barangay, parang walang naririnig ang management. Mas hands on si Danding sa SMC regarding basketball. Si Henry parang wlaang paki sa opinion ng fans nila pati ng media. Ang hindi ko maintindihan ano ba ang problema kay Forrester? Si minion ano problema? Pati yung malaki nilang player, Si Faundo, kinalawang na sa bench. SAYANG !!! Kung ako ang coach, dapat walang bangkuan at tingnan ang full potential.

Edited March 10, 2014 by photographer

[azraelmd]

First game palang with barako...you will see na nde impressive si rodgers....initially i thought it was due to fatigue..kasi usually nde naman sanay mga import na babad agad sila...kaso napapansin ko laging ganun ang galaw nya...drive nyang slo-mo na may hop step pa hehehe...alang mid range shooting...and no nde SF ang pinapakitang laro nya katawan palang pan PF na eh...si japhet ang small forward maglaro..kaso takot magdriveeh..unstoppable sana sya kung turuan lang magdrive...

I think may problema talaga sa coaching staff na eh...ayaw ba nilang gamitin si forrester dahil bano pala ito??? Ayaw nilang aminin na nagkamali sila ng pagpili with the number 4th overall pick? Kasi it would show gano kahina ng staff talaga nila...bangkuin nlang nila in the hopes na matrade with profit sa side ng ginebra?? Unless na mas bano pa si forrester kay urbiztondo???

[darksoulriver]

hindi ako impress sa import na si Rodgers masyado naging hype ang pagpapakilala

 

bkit mo aalisin si Japeth sa starting five eh pwede nman silang magsabay at bkit si JR ang pumalit? dko magets Coach?

 

teka sino ba tlaga Coach???

 

kung ipapalit si Boone kunin na agad kung hindi eh hanaf na ng bagong Import hanggat maaga pa...

 

Si Kenyon Martin Free Agent baka pwede yun hahaha

[junix]

First game palang with barako...you will see na nde impressive si rodgers....initially i thought it was due to fatigue..kasi usually nde naman sanay mga import na babad agad sila...kaso napapansin ko laging ganun ang galaw nya...drive nyang slo-mo na may hop step pa hehehe...alang mid range shooting...and no nde SF ang pinapakitang laro nya katawan palang pan PF na eh...si japhet ang small forward maglaro..kaso takot magdriveeh..unstoppable sana sya kung turuan lang magdrive...

I think may problema talaga sa coaching staff na eh...ayaw ba nilang gamitin si forrester dahil bano pala ito??? Ayaw nilang aminin na nagkamali sila ng pagpili with the number 4th overall pick? Kasi it would show gano kahina ng staff talaga nila...bangkuin nlang nila in the hopes na matrade with profit sa side ng ginebra?? Unless na mas bano pa si forrester kay urbiztondo???

 

If you have seen my earlier post, i attached a youtube clip on forrester's highlight plays. I swear he is worth being picked 4th overall. Di lang talaga nabibigyan ng playing time para ipakita ang galing. Even his coach in college, koy banal (?) swears he is good if only given the chance to play. Sabi ko nga, tiyak na magsisisi ang management kung sa ibang team pa magpapakita ng gilas itong si forrester. Kung si teng ng RoS ipinapasok, bakit di mabigyan ng playing time si forrester?

[junix]

Prior commissioner's cup sbi nla Rodgers is 3 point shooter with high shooting percentage beyond the arc. 1st game 2/10, second game 0/7. What the heck. Ano ba talaga tong mga coaching staff na to ang tatanga talaga nakakainis na. Imagine 2/17 mas mataas pa ata percentage ni Marlou Aquino at Eric Menk sa 3points kesa kay Rodgers. Naman gising gising naman.

 

Di lang sangkatutak na tanga ang coaching staff...mga bulag pa. Sukat ba naman na di nila makita si forrester. Ayun...yung tao nasa dulo ng bangko...naka-uniporme nga di naman naglalaro. Sayang!

[Agent_mulder]

PInatay ko na TV. No Forrester. No rotation. MABABAGAL na ang tumatandang guards ng Ginebra. Lakas talaga ni Urbiztondo. I feel merong nangyayari sa loob ng team. Kunin na lang nila yung import ng San Miguel. Itapon na si Rodgers. Its time to develop the youngsters of the team. WHATS HAPPENING????? Sayang ang lakas.

 

Sayang nga ang mga bagong players ng Ginebra gaya ni JF at Ababou, ang nabasa ko pa naman noong nakuha nila sa draft si JF sila na ni Ellis ang magiging bagong "the fast and the furious" kaso ni 'di nagagamit 'yung isa eh. Si MC47 gumawa nga kagabi kaso ang bagal na at crucial pa 'yung isa n'yang turn-over

 

I share your insight mr jawo na naging photographer nalang hehehe...

Kunin nalang si josh boone ng smb!!!! or mga athletic na swingman ...kahit si blakely ..ok na sa fit ng ginebra....they dont need a PF na import!!!! Mas magagaling pa mga fan ng ginebra eh...alam nila problema ng team nila....may malasakit tayo!!! Wag nyo gawing pampractice ng mga bagong batang coach nyo team namin!!!!!

 

Me rule yata which prohibits other team/s from picking-up an import who was just recently replaced/cut by another team, dapat kunin na lang nila si Gabe Freeman, ang sipag nito, malakas sa rebound, wala nga lang outside shooting

 

 

management is wrecking my favorite ball club..

 

Pulitika sir eh, bad trip, si Boysie Zamar nga nasa coaching staff lang nila last conference now nasa San Miguel Beer na, ginagawang Guinea Pig ang Ginebra at SMB sa coaches na mga bano

 

Buti pa San Miguel papalitan kaagad yung import nila. Action kaagad. Hindi na naghihintay. Pero kaso nagpakita ng gilas. Sa Barangay, parang walang naririnig ang management. Mas hands on si Danding sa SMC regarding basketball. Si Henry parang wlaang paki sa opinion ng fans nila pati ng media. Ang hindi ko maintindihan ano ba ang problema kay Forrester? Si minion ano problema? Pati yung malaki nilang player, Si Faundo, kinalawang na sa bench. SAYANG !!! Kung ako ang coach, dapat walang bangkuan at tingnan ang full potential.

 

Ewan ko ba sa management ng Ginebra, pinapatagal maige before palitan ang import nila at noon pa 'yan, maganda galaw ni Rodgers kaso minsan tutok na 'di pa din pasok tira, saka kita naman na mabagal na talaga s'ya and can't even chase after those loose balls....

 

hindi ako impress sa import na si Rodgers masyado naging hype ang pagpapakilala

 

bkit mo aalisin si Japeth sa starting five eh pwede nman silang magsabay at bkit si JR ang pumalit? dko magets Coach?

 

teka sino ba tlaga Coach???

 

kung ipapalit si Boone kunin na agad kung hindi eh hanaf na ng bagong Import hanggat maaga pa...

 

Si Kenyon Martin Free Agent baka pwede yun hahaha

 

Si Gabe Freeman na lang, bata pa naman 'yun, masipag pa, kulang sa rebounding ang Ginebra eh, maski matataas ang players 'di naman buma box out

Edited March 10, 2014 by Agent_mulder

[junix]

Buti pa San Miguel papalitan kaagad yung import nila. Action kaagad. Hindi na naghihintay. Pero kaso nagpakita ng gilas. Sa Barangay, parang walang naririnig ang management. Mas hands on si Danding sa SMC regarding basketball. Si Henry parang wlaang paki sa opinion ng fans nila pati ng media. Ang hindi ko maintindihan ano ba ang problema kay Forrester? Si minion ano problema? Pati yung malaki nilang player, Si Faundo, kinalawang na sa bench. SAYANG !!! Kung ako ang coach, dapat walang bangkuan at tingnan ang full potential.

 

Very well said kaibigan. Paano nga naman malalaman ang potential ng player kung di naman pinapasok. Forrester, Monfort, Ababou, Faundo all riding the bench. Anak ng @!/$ bwisit talaga!!! Si Maierhofer at Kramer na mga bangko dati sa ginebra...di ko na kailangan sabihin ang nilalaro nila lalo na kagabi. Napanood naman natin ang nangyari.

[Kazekage.Gaara]

Hinihintay pa ata nilang magkaroon ulit ng isa pang open letter. This time to the management.

[ray004]

came upon this post from the internet. i guess it echoes the sentiment of all the fans.

 

[photographer]

http://www.spin.ph/s...ty-coach-speaks

 

GINEBRA rookie James Forrester just needs to be patient and more consistent during team practice to get the breaks he's long been waiting for.

 

The piece of advice came from assistant coach Juno Sauler, who has been tasked by team management to take a more active role in handling the team in the ongoing PBA Commissioner's Cup.

 

"He just needs to be more consistent, like everyone else. Consistent daily," said Sauler.

 

 

They Said It!

"(Forrester) in a lineup where the spot he plays is very loaded."

Ginebra assistant coach Juno Sauler

 

 

But Sauler was quick to clarify it doesn't mean the rookie guard from Arellano University is inconsistent, pointing out that he faced stiff competition in his position at Ginebra.

 

"Let's face it. Yung mga kalaban niya sa puwesto very consistent din sa practice. He's in a lineup where the spot he plays is very loaded," said the soft-spoken Ginebra deputy coach.

 

Two games into the mid-season conference, there's still no Forrester sighting yet on the floor for the struggling Kings, although the rookie isn't complaining - at least not publicly.

 

In an earlier interview, Forrester told Spin.ph that he's more than willing to wait for his big break and earn his minutes with Ginebra than be traded to another team.

 

The statement naturally endeared him more to the throng of Barangay Ginebra fans, most of whom have now taken to social networking sites to air their petition for more playing time for Forrester.

 

Here's one of them:

 

 

http://contents.spin.ph/image/james-forrester-INSET-590-31014.jpg

 

Although he cannot promise more minutes for the rookie, Sauler assured that the coaching staff is carefully weighing all options, with the welfare of the team in mind.

 

"Ang coaching staff kasi decides on whatever we think is good for the team," he stressed.

 

"I am sure he (Forrester) can contribute, just like how the others are contributing also. Pero siyempre, all our judgments will be what is most beneficial to them."

 

"I am not saying that James cannot play. He is a very good player. That's why nga di ba yung contract niya is long-term, so we're making sure that we continue to develop James. So when the proper time comes, he'll be ready."

 

Asked if Forrester has what it takes to be a vital piece of the Ginebra rotation one day, Sauler answered in the affirmative.

 

"Yeah, meron. Meron," said Sauler.

 

But at the same time, Sauler said finding time for Forrester isn'y easy considering the amount of talent available for Ginebra in the 2 and 3 spots, and the job only gets harder, he said, with import Leon Rodgers around.

 

"Syempre, kaposisyon ni James ang import namin. So it's a choice between the import and James Forrester," said Sauler, who is also head coach of De La Salle in the UAAP.

 

"Plus do you want Chris Ellis sitting down and James Forrester playing, or Mark Caguioa sitting on the bench or James Forrester playing?" he asked.

 

But Sauler said he admires how Forrester has shown diligence and determination in practice despite the fact he's aware how the kid is frustrated with his lack of playing time with the team.

 

"He has a very nice attitude," said the Ginebra first assistant coach.

 

Sauler also made it clear trading Forrester has not crossed Ginebra's mind.

 

"We were not thinking about that. It never entered our heads. He is still part of the team's future," he said. "Of course, there is nothing certain in this world. What we say now might not be the same thing tomorrow."

 

 

 

Can James Forrester expect more playing time under Juno Sauler? Ginebra deputy coach speaks

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"I am not saying that James cannot play. He is a very good player. That's why nga di ba yung contract niya is long-term, so we're making sure that we continue to develop James. So when the proper time comes, he'll be ready," says Ginebra deputy coach Juno Sauler.Snow Badua

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[ray004]

if that's the case bakit kinuha pa nila si Forrester? mas magaling ba si Urbiztondo kaysa sa kanya? di ko maintinidhan logic ni Sauler sa statements nya

[Orgen2]

Juno's explanation is pointless. What does urbiztondo does or brings to ginebra? Since the time he arrives i cant remember anu game that he explodes. Why does he has minutes compare to JF. Hawa hawa na pllayers sa kabobohan ng coaching staff. Pati si Japeth nababano na. Sooner or later pati laro ni Baracael bababa dahil sa incompetence ng coach. Lahat ng players wala ng ganang maglaro. Only Ellis is consistent. Its more than two decades that I am a Ginebra die hard. I never been this excited with their players since the time of Michael Hackett and Billy Ray Bates. But this is only the time that Ive been this dissapointed. Imagine kung kelan ang lakas ng lineup tsaka ako nawawawalan ng ganang manood. Dati kahit 30 ang lamang i still watch. Kahit ilang taong hindi nakapasok sa 2nd round or playoffs ndi ko nagsasawa. Ngaun two games palang ayoko na manood. Hangat hindi ngpapalit ng coaching staff walang mararating ang team namin. Kahit si Lebron pa siguro import wala parin as long as anjan si Ato......

[junix]

while he may be a champion coach with la salle, juno's explanation on why forrester doesn't have playing time is unacceptable and just doesn't make sense. assuming for the sake of argument that forrester's position is already loaded, will the coaching staff still insist on playing a caguioa kahit na nagkakalat na?...or insist on playing urbiztondo na parating nagkakalat?...or jj kahit na halatang mabagal na? i don't think urbiztondo is a better player than the 4th pick. doesn't it make more sense to try out someone like forrester for a change. even japeth and baracael's playing time have been cut short because of poor rotation. ang hirap sa coaching staff ng ginebra napakabopol na bulag at bingi pa. haaay...with this kind of effort na pinapakita ng ginebra ngayon, baka tuluyan nang langawin ang mga laro nila. add to this is their overrated import. natatandaan ko tuloy yung mga sinabi ni jawo during the half time of game 6 against san mig. ibigay lahat dahil sa mga fans.

Edited March 10, 2014 by junix

[azraelmd]

Ang tanong...bakit si juni ang nagsasalita na???? Gumagawa ng plays???? No wonder magulo ang rotation...no wonder magulo ang laro....no wonder nde alam gagawin ngnmga players...

Kasi nde alam kung sinong totoong coach na...... Bano ang coach...tapos assistant coach na ang biglang magcocoach????

[Air Jordan]

wala naman pinag bago ang coaching style ni juno ke ato, mas lumakas lang ang boses!

 

kumuha pa kayo ng maliit na import para hindi ma apektuhan ang playing time ng twin towers, eh pinagsasabay nyo ba? diba hindi din? nilalamon lang kayo ng matatangkad na import from other teams!

[junix]

I agree with your assessment. The question is: Is the decision not play Forrester coming from up high?

your guess is as good as mine sir. is this another one of those politics in basketball?

 

wala naman pinag bago ang coaching style ni juno ke ato, mas lumakas lang ang boses!

 

kumuha pa kayo ng maliit na import para hindi ma apektuhan ang playing time ng twin towers, eh pinagsasabay nyo ba? diba hindi din? nilalamon lang kayo ng matatangkad na import from other teams!

di lang lumakas, english pa :lol: +1...the reason why ginebra got a small import is for the twin towers not to be compromised. unfortunately, japeth's playing minutes is dwindling at malapit-lapit nang mawalan ng kumpiyansa. di ko ba alam kung anong klaseng rotation ang gustong palabasin nitong si ato...wtf @!#* :angry:

[photographer]

http://ph.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/the-underdog/coaching-experiments-continue-for-san-miguel-beer-and-ginebra-091829648-nba.html

 

 

unlike their other sister team---SANMIG, coach Tim is a brilliant strategist...no wonder if SANMIG shall take home another championship trophy, compare to their sibling team with deep bench, San Miguel Beermen and Brgy. Ginebra they have a superstar line-up but didn't have the chemistry to win..puro kasi paistaran ang mga coach at plalo na sa players...