Overrated Nba/pba Players

[grail80]

The Blazers would not have chosen him if they didn't think he would be a quality player in the NBA like he was in college. As you said the next best available center. My opinion is they should have taken Jordan and who knows? The Glide would have been his Scottie Pippen.

 

Wahaha did you know his college stats? His best season was 17pts and 9.8rebs per game. In his senior year he got 10 pts and 9rebs per game.

 

In his first year with Portland he got about 10 pts and 8 rebs per game. He did as expected, I would hardly call that being overrated.

 

Like I said, Portland knew exactly what they were getting. They picked according to their need. They needed a serviceable center to beef up their frontcourt. They got it, even made the playoffs but Bowie had a string of injuries.

 

Is Jordan a center? Coz if he was I'm sure the Rockets would have picked him first.

Edited May 22, 2009 by grail80

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Wahaha did you know his college stats? His best season was 17pts and 9.8rebs per game. In his senior year he got 10 pts and 9rebs per game.

 

In his first year with Portland he got about 10 pts and 8 rebs per game. He did as expected, I would hardly call that being overrated.

 

Like I said, Portland knew exactly what they were getting. They picked according to their need. They needed a serviceable center to beef up their frontcourt. They got it, even made the playoffs but Bowie had a string of injuries.

 

Is Jordan a center? Coz if he was I'm sure the Rockets would have picked him first.

No, but he was unquestionably more talented than Bowie. The worst draft day mistake of all tiime.

[grail80]

No, but he was unquestionably more talented than Bowie. The worst draft day mistake of all tiime.

 

Some can argue Kwame Brown is the worst draft day mistake of all time, but yeah your statement is arguably true. But Bowie is definitely not overrated.

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Some can argue Kwame Brown is the worst draft day mistake of all time, but yeah your statement is arguably true. But Bowie is definitely not overrated.

Considering the caliber of the player who was drafted after him, I wouldn't be inclined to think otherwise.

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that's all in hindsight.

following your last comment then it was just unfortunate that Bowie belonged to the wrong draft class.

 

at any rate, there will always be "busts" after the fact since teams don't know for sure what kind of guy they're getting once they start paying him millions to play a kid's game.

 

 

para hindi OT: David West (used to be underrated)

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that's all in hindsight.

following your last comment then it was just unfortunate that Bowie belonged to the wrong draft class.

 

at any rate, there will always be "busts" after the fact since teams don't know for sure what kind of guy they're getting once they start paying him millions to play a kid's game.

 

 

para hindi OT: David West (used to be underrated)

except for lebron james. he was the most hyped rookie ever and he lived up to his hype.

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except for lebron james. he was the most hyped rookie ever and he lived up to his hype.

 

it might be safe to say now that he has far exceeded expectations already...and the best is yet to come.

[grail80]

Considering the caliber of the player who was drafted after him, I wouldn't be inclined to think otherwise.

 

LOL you are saying he is overrated just because of his performance compared to Jordan, who was drafted after him. But all the Blazers expected from him is that 10 pt 9 reb guy. He delivered what was expected from him. Not overrated. He was never even hyped up to be a monster center. Going by this line of thinking, all the other players drafted ahead of Kobe Bryant are all overrated.

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LOL you are saying he is overrated just because of his performance compared to Jordan, who was drafted after him. But all the Blazers expected from him is that 10 pt 9 reb guy. He delivered what was expected from him. Not overrated. He was never even hyped up to be a monster center. Going by this line of thinking, all the other players drafted ahead of Kobe Bryant are all overrated.

any player drafted number 2 overall will carry with him a lot of expectations.

[grail80]

any player drafted number 2 overall will carry with him a lot of expectations.

 

Sports Illustrated ran an article on Sam Bowie already. They even admonished Portland that they should have drafted according to talent, not by need. But what do you need Jordan for, when they already had Clyde who before Jordan was the best in his position? Think about it, Portland couldn't win the championship because that era was dominated by the Celtics (who had Parish) and Lakers (who had Kareem). Why do you need another guard if you had one of the best already?

 

 

any player drafted number 2 overall will carry with him a lot of expectations.

 

Sports Illustrated ran an article on Sam Bowie already. They even admonished Portland that they should have drafted according to talent, not by need. But what do you need Jordan for, when they already had Clyde who before Jordan was the best in his position? Think about it, Portland couldn't win the championship because that era was dominated by the Celtics (who had Parish) and Lakers (who had Kareem). Why do you need another guard if you had one of the best already?

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Sports Illustrated ran an article on Sam Bowie already. They even admonished Portland that they should have drafted according to talent, not by need. But what do you need Jordan for, when they already had Clyde who before Jordan was the best in his position? Think about it, Portland couldn't win the championship because that era was dominated by the Celtics (who had Parish) and Lakers (who had Kareem). Why do you need another guard if you had one of the best already?

 

 

 

Sports Illustrated ran an article on Sam Bowie already. They even admonished Portland that they should have drafted according to talent, not by need. But what do you need Jordan for, when they already had Clyde who before Jordan was the best in his position? Think about it, Portland couldn't win the championship because that era was dominated by the Celtics (who had Parish) and Lakers (who had Kareem). Why do you need another guard if you had one of the best already?

Simple, to win it all. in my opinion, the lakers would not have had 5 championships had the blazers drafted jordan.

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but that's the thing---are you sure MJ would've become MJ while trying to fit next to Drexler?

no one knows this now with absolute certainty simply because it didn't happen. that's that.

in perfect Gumpian sense, the draft is a box of chocolates. it's an inexact science at best.

 

all your assertions that Jordan was going to be the GOAT or something pretty good regardless of the situation way even before it happened---well, not even the most ardent hoop insiders could commit to that back in the day. after all, Hakeem was taken first.

Portland was already loaded with talent on the wing---let's make this clear---this just wasn't about Drexler. you can look it up on wiki.

 

anyhow, more than not drafting Sam Bowie, the Blazers could've gotten competitive much earlier if they brought Sabonis in his prime.

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but that's the thing---are you sure MJ would've become MJ while trying to fit next to Drexler?

no one knows this now with absolute certainty simply because it didn't happen. that's that.

in perfect Gumpian sense, the draft is a box of chocolates. it's an inexact science at best.

 

all your assertions that Jordan was going to be the GOAT or something pretty good regardless of the situation way even before it happened---well, not even the most ardent hoop insiders could commit to that back in the day. after all, Hakeem was taken first.

Portland was already loaded with talent on the wing---let's make this clear---this just wasn't about Drexler. you can look it up on wiki.

 

anyhow, more than not drafting Sam Bowie, the Blazers could've gotten competitive much earlier if they brought Sabonis in his prime.

I never said Jordan was gonna be the goat. Theoretically speaking, Jordan would have still been the main man with Drexler being the second option. As for Sabonis, maybe they could have been more competitive had he gotten aboard earlier.

[denimhead]

.. hindsight being 20/20

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regardless, we don't know---for sure anyway---how that partnership would've gone.

naturally, they wouldn't give MJ free reign off the bat as a rookie as the Blazers were loaded on the wing.

 

if I'd make my own guess, he'd more likely take on a truncated version of the Kobe career path---provide the spark off the bench as a scoring 6th man early on and then ascend as a #2 once the team had better complementary pieces.

 

anyway, the "in theory part" is nice but the perfect storm was laid at MJ's feet and he made the most out of that situation.

he was in a big market city, he was the main guy on the team/face of the franchise and the powers of the East declined right around the time he hit his prime years.

 

 

 

 

I never said Jordan was gonna be the goat. Theoretically speaking, Jordan would have still been the main man with Drexler being the second option. As for Sabonis, maybe they could have been more competitive had he gotten aboard earlier.

Edited May 22, 2009 by gift_of_game