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Sa totoo lang gusto kong balikan yung PTA group ko. Gustong gusto ko labanan yung anak ni Sir Ambat, si David. Kahit na gulpi talaga ko sa kanya, atleast nagagawa ko sa kanya yung mga bawal. Naprapractice ko yung self ko sa true to life situation. Patay kung patay. Kung iba ka spar, waste of time. Ang daming bawal.

 

Kaya lang parang pera pera na yung ginawa eh. Imagine that 20 plus kayo in one session. Damn pano ka matututukan ng instructor mo????

Kahit magpa one on one ka, by nature PTA instructors would teach how to spar based on the rules not base on true to life situation. Syang talaga ang PTA.

 

In TAP/TIP, according to my friend na NBI agent. Nagpapatayan sila don(figure of speech lang po ha). Strict discipline. I thought nagyayabang lang. But nung lumipat don yung ibang friends ko, wow ang laki ng improvement. Di na ko makasabay. Gusto kong lumipat kaya lang nakakahiya kay Sir Ambat. So I stopped na lang. I said busy sched in school. But somehow it was because of the dull training.

San mas ok po? Elorde Boxing or Red Corner Boxing????

 

Pinapanood ko at kinocompare yung dalawang group. Di ko talaga sila masyadong maintindihan but there is a clear difference.

 

Sabi nga po ni Sir Chris of Red Corner. Ok din na try mo yung Elorde. Iba daw yung training mo don. Ok din yon kasi nasasanay ka sa ibat ibang approach at methodology.

 

Maraming magaling na TAP dito galing si Dean Vargas at ilan sa mga PTC....

 

If you wann learn boxing and not just exercise,ABAP and the navy gym are you best bets..

 

I use to compete in TKD back in college and I can say it is really more of a sport than a martial art

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olympus

andrean

 

i agree with you guys about the decline in the martial aspect of tkd. imo, the worst thing that could have happened to tkd was to become an olympic sport. nowadays they're taught how to score points, how to shape the foot so it makes a loud sound on impact (which draws attention to the kick, again for points). there's no punching anymore; if you watched the last olympics you'll know what i'm talking about. they bounce around waiting to unload their high, flashy, spinning, jumping kicks again for what? points!

don't even get me started on the commercialisation of tkd. i've met people who got their black belts in six months. they were in the "acelerated program" which required a special fee of course. what the f#&k!

the other sad aspect of modern tkd is the bullshit politics that goes on between the two ruling organisations. it comes down to "my organisation is better than yours, nya nya nya". that's always detrimental to anything, not just in ma or sports, anything!

even here where i live this itf/wtf bullshit is prevalent. a good friend of mine (who is a highly ranked tkd exponent) can't teach because he's not recognised by the local federation. which is their lose, this dude is a bad arse who trained with the last remaining real tkd fighters left: the korean special forces.

i'm not putting down tkd, i did it for quite awhile myself, but it has to get back to it's original roots, unarmed combat.

 

andrean

 

i had the same shoulder problem as you do. i did my own rehab based on my research into old time (late 19th-early 20th century) training methods. if you're interested, let me know and i can send you the exercises i used personally to rehab my shoulder. i'm off overseas again in a couple of days, so there'll be a gap in my usage of this site, but i'll get to you when i return.

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I used to study karatedo in HS for 3 years but I stopped when I reached collage. Now I want to go back and study martial arts again. My only problem is that I had my knee operated for an ACL injury. My knee is ok now but I would like to know which martial arts I can learn and practice and not be afraid of re-injuring my knee. I know for sure that t** Kwan Do (did I spell that right?) is out of the question.

 

Thanks for any help in this thread :cool: :blush:

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Ok na po ryt shoulder ko. I have a phobia in using in too much.

 

Anonther thing is kaliwete ako.........

Sana nga napunta na lang ako sa TAP or TIP.....

Sa pagkaaalam ko street TKD ang training don. Using kick in a lethal way for defending your self. Not just for scoring.

 

Pag sure na ko na 100% ang braso ko at I have time at resources, boxing or Muay Thai or Kick Boxing na lang ako. I still have to respect may PTA roots kaya malamang di ako lilipat sa TAP or TIP

 

Actually, hindi parin street fighting dun, they still do PTA type sparring but they do teach some practical techniques and the black belt division has strikes to the face already

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Good mornin Martial Artist.

 

Just want to say my opinion about various Martial Arts.

 

Im a former Taekwando Gin under Sir Ambat here in Pque. I stopped last Dec 2003 after my Red Belt promotion. Its a good exercise, and a good hobby. But I think in real life situation, di mo sya magagamit. We were not taught how to punch properly. Also yung mga practical kicks na ginagawa ng Muai Thai, bawal din gawin. Puro instep kicks or kicks na dapat paa ang tatama.

 

I think Muai Thai, Boxing, at URCC type ( I forgot yung twag, yung puro grapling at oponent take down) ang mas magagamit sa real life situations.

 

As of other forms of MA, di ko sila kabisado. Well pls educate me.

 

Try mo Hybrid YawYan...

 

Parang Muay Thai din with Submissions, Grappling, Take-Downs, etc.

(Na-infuse rin ang Jiu-Jitsu dun)

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Yaw Yan(Sayaw ng Kamatayan) is like Muay Thai actually. The forms, the excecutions, etc.

 

Sa Hybrid dinagdagan na ng street fighting(Shootfighting, striking, wrestling) then yung mga grappling and submissions na-isama na din.

 

May ibang mga teachers na nag-infuse ng Jiu-Jitsu sa technique and also Aikido.

 

Yung Muay Thai pag piananood mo yun yung ordinaryong YawYan...

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Yaw yan they so called it the "Unified Martial Arts"

It is also based on circular techniques you find in Tai-chi and Aikido

 

 

Yaw Yan(Sayaw ng Kamatayan) is like Muay Thai actually. The forms, the excecutions, etc.

 

Sa Hybrid dinagdagan na ng street fighting(Shootfighting, striking, wrestling) then yung mga grappling and submissions na-isama na din.

 

May ibang mga teachers na nag-infuse ng Jiu-Jitsu sa technique and also Aikido.

 

Yung Muay Thai pag piananood mo yun yung ordinaryong YawYan...

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Wing Chun Dummy. I got my guy to drop his prices down to P16K. It took him a few months, but he finally got the design right. Anyone interested, please PM me for details...

 

Anyone find any good Wing Chun schools here in the Philippines??? I hear they practice in Binondo, but these guys only train other chinese guys....

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just curious...

 

when you do a muai thai roundhouse kick aimed to the thigh... do you hit it with your instep or your shin?

 

ive been training kicks with my left in-step (the instep i dont use), and it feels like my insteps gonna break after 4-5 kicks out of the heavy bag... i end up limping afterwards although i usually wake up feeling better.

 

how do i train for this kick? thanx in advance :)

 

 

hit your target with your shin and part of your instep. shin is much harder than your instep. sa madaling sabi, buong lower legs mo ang primary weapon sa roundhouse.

 

start practising sa soft bag. let someone hold it for you. kick it and train also your knee. heavy bag will follow, if you feel your shin is already calloused.

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hit your target with your shin and part of your instep. shin is much harder than your instep. sa madaling sabi, buong lower legs mo ang primary weapon sa roundhouse.

 

start practising sa soft bag. let someone hold it for you. kick it and train also your knee. heavy bag will follow, if you feel your shin is already calloused.

 

the optimum impact area for a muay thai kick is from just below the patella (knee-cap) to a distance of one hand span down towards the foot. if you measure it out you'll find that this is the area where the tibia (large shin bone) is prominently projected outwards from the lower leg. after this the tibia narrows down (before flaring out) to connect to the medial malleolus. i've omitted the fibula as this plays a less prominent part in the impact of the kick. avoid hitting with the instep completely, but in saying that, there are specific tagets that can only be hit using the instep, but these require correct timing and targeting more than anything else.

 

before i share what i consider the proper way to toughen up the shin bones, have a good hard think about why you want to do it. if you're only after the look and the bragging rights, then f.u.c.k. off you poncy wanker. you haven't got a clue, and you're a major embarrassment to muay thai. if you want to compete and need tough shins then good luck in the training and read on...

 

i recommend the following method because it toughens the actual bones, other methods usually involve leaving callouses on the skin, which is not only ugly, but potentially dangerous. if you've ever had a callous go wrong on your foot, imagine how much worse it would be on your shin, where there is very little cushioning between the skin and the bone.

 

you will need: one rolling pin, tiger balm (or similar), lots of time (minimum four to six months before competition.)

 

firstly use the rolling pin lightly on the shins, covering the area detailed above. hit the shins from all directions. three to five minutes should be enough for the first week, at three times a week. you should be aiming for five days a week at 15 minutes a session.

 

after the rolling, apply tiger balm to the affected area and massage thoroughly.

 

during your training nights, stick to the light bag, or kick lightly if you've only got a heavy bag.

 

when your shins get tough enough, change the rolling pin to a steel pipe, or press down harder on the rolling pin. you can also use a stick to lightly hit your shins for a couple of minutes after the rolling session.

 

when you've reached desired hardness, you can drop down to one or two sessions a week. the rest of the conditioning can come from the heavy bag, or pads.

 

this method encourages the bones to toughen from the inside out, making them harder. to put it simply, the pressure of the rolling drives the osteocytes crazy and makes them produce more bone cells in the affected area. the end result is tough bones and a normal looking shin.

 

have fun.

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Question lang po.... where does one go for women's self-defense?..... Hindi po

yung pa-cute lang like something you put in your resume under hobbies....that

gives women a false sense of security....something simple yet effective....HINDI

PO YUNG PARANG ONE-STEP SPARRING GAYA NG MARAMI.... which are more

concern with techniques than attributes (timing, speed, etc.) SOME INFO

PLEASE!

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Question lang po.... where does one go for women's self-defense?..... Hindi po

yung pa-cute lang like something you put in your resume under hobbies....that

gives women a false sense of security....something simple yet effective....HINDI

PO YUNG PARANG ONE-STEP SPARRING GAYA NG MARAMI.... which are more

concern with techniques than attributes (timing, speed, etc.) SOME INFO

PLEASE!

 

Where are you located?

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I dabble in whatever style is convenient as to location and costs. Right now I am planning to go kyokushinkai in San Juan. I have been observing their training. Neither too impressed nor too disappointed. Okay lang any feedback guys about this style or particulars to this gym. Before I go back to martial arts training was hoping to get my pilay fixed first. I fell from a wodden ladder around 10 feet down and I am a heavy guy 100k plus. Any ideas on that too?

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