Suicidal Lovers

[iwalkalone]

I agree that you should monitor person with suicidal tendencies. But when do you know if a person indeed has suicidal tendencies and when he/she is just bluffing and using this as a ploy from you not leaving him/her. There is a fine line most of the time when a person is faking it and when he/she is not.

 

If the person is indeed suicidal & would harm him/herself, then do everything possible to help. But if its otherwise, just ignore it and leave.

 

may fake bang suicide?...ah yung kunyare iinom ng lason yun pala sofdrinks lang laman tas may halong konting shampoo para bubula! :boo:

[tabouki]

may fake bang suicide?...ah yung kunyare iinom ng lason yun pala sofdrinks lang laman tas may halong konting shampoo para bubula! :boo:

 

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[Dr Love]

may fake bang suicide?...ah yung kunyare iinom ng lason yun pala sofdrinks lang laman tas may halong konting shampoo para bubula! :boo:

To commit and do the act of suicide is different from simple saying I'll commit suicide. A lot of us one way or the other have contemplated suicide but after much thought have never done it.

 

You have to decern if one has that tendency or simple faking it but as i've said medyo mahirap gawin yun. Normally you take his/her word for it. But what happens if you do and he/she is faking it?

[iwalkalone]

yung mga KSP ...akyat ka billboard

huy madami ng namatay sa ganyan huh...tsaka usually gumagawa nyan mga high sa drugs diba?....di pwede lasing...sigurado dedbol!

 

To commit and do the act of suicide is different from simple saying I'll commit suicide. A lot of us one way or the other have contemplated suicide but after much thought have never done it.

 

You have to decern if one has that tendency or simple faking it but as i've said medyo mahirap gawin yun. Normally you take his/her word for it. But what happens if you do and he/she is faking it?

 

uh.... so fake yung mere saying na mag susuicide...kailangan may pruweba bago tayo maniniwala ...kailangan mamatay muna yung nag papapampam....otherwise FAKE sya! tse!! yaan nga nating mangisay yang mga yan sa tabe!!

[Dr Love]

uh.... so fake yung mere saying na mag susuicide...kailangan may pruweba bago tayo maniniwala ...kailangan mamatay muna yung nag papapampam....otherwise FAKE sya! tse!! yaan nga nating mangisay yang mga yan sa tabe!!

Suicide is a serious matter and I for one agree on what have been said. What i'm simply saying is that one must know or atleast try to know if he/she is capable of doing it and weighing it if you would act on what he said or threatened you with. Kaya nga sabi ko oftentimes we assume na agad na tototohanin nya rather than take the chance diba. :cool:

[sk1pw7se]

Used to have one during my HS days, sobrang nkktakot.. Tapos ang hirap iwanan, lalo n kung nkialam n buong family nya.. Good thing they migrated na sa canada.. Wheww!! :boo:

[tabouki]

yes it sure is a serious matter. one thing though, as they say, a dog who barks doesnt bite, silent water runs deep. pag nagpuputak yung chick yun lang yun. pag tumahimik, pabantayan mo na

 

sabihan mo join na lang siya dito :mtc:

[JoeyAbad]

Just be aware that there are bipolars, who in their depressive and manic cycles leave reason and reality aside. The storms in their mind convulses to a point that they are very capable of ending their life. Majority of times, it is only when they are cycling that they become a danger to themselves. After the manic depressive cycling they revert to the lovable person that they are.

 

With the right balance of medications, talk theraphy, and or Cognitive Behaviour Theraphy (CBT) they can lead highly functional and productive lives.

 

Final point: When in a manic or depressive cycle, Bipolars do not do what they do on purpose! Support them when they are cycling, because the cycling will pass, and the beautiful person that you have come to love will return to you. :flowers:

 

 

 

 

P.S.: Tell yourselves "This too shall pass". Keep the faith! :thumbsupsmiley:

[iwalkalone]

Just be aware that there are bipolars, who in their depressive and manic cycles leave reason and reality aside. The storms in their mind convulses to a point that they are very capable of ending their life. Majority of times, it is only when they are cycling that they become a danger to themselves. After the manic depressive cycling they revert to the lovable person that they are.

 

With the right balance of medications, talk theraphy, and or Cognitive Behaviour Theraphy (CBT) they can lead highly functional and productive lives.

 

Final point: When in a manic or depressive cycle, Bipolars do not do what they do on purpose! Support them when they are cycling, because the cycling will pass, and the beautiful person that you have come to love will return to you. :flowers:

P.S.: Tell yourselves "This too shall pass". Keep the faith! :thumbsupsmiley:

 

well said... :cool: you sound like an expert! :thumbsupsmiley:

[Dr Love]

Just be aware that there are bipolars, who in their depressive and manic cycles leave reason and reality aside. The storms in their mind convulses to a point that they are very capable of ending their life. Majority of times, it is only when they are cycling that they become a danger to themselves. After the manic depressive cycling they revert to the lovable person that they are.

 

With the right balance of medications, talk theraphy, and or Cognitive Behaviour Theraphy (CBT) they can lead highly functional and productive lives.

 

Final point: When in a manic or depressive cycle, Bipolars do not do what they do on purpose! Support them when they are cycling, because the cycling will pass, and the beautiful person that you have come to love will return to you. :flowers:

P.S.: Tell yourselves "This too shall pass". Keep the faith! :thumbsupsmiley:

 

Well said Mr Abad. Marami lang sa atin dont really know which is which kaya oftentimes better to be on the safe side and assume na he/she will do it :cool:

[sweeteenia]

well said... :cool: you sound like an expert! :thumbsupsmiley:

Is there a cure for it? I have it .. I am bipolar..and i am not ashamed to disclose it..because I am not denying it.. I wanted to be cured or treated..i am Under treatment for 1 year of meds..then after that half tabs only.. I took Mood stabilizers.. I'm mildy bipolar...

 

P.S. I didn't have it..before.. I just had it lately.. because of the overwhelming life situations..I still look fine.. I'm not the worst bipolar..Marilyn Monroe, Princess Diana ,Vivien Leigh( star of Gone with the wind) have it too.. in the local .. My psychiatrist said that Gretchen Barretto is having it..and the like..

Edited April 8, 2007 by sweeteenia

[JoeyAbad]

well said... :cool: you sound like an expert! :thumbsupsmiley:

Thank you. I am. :cool:

[JoeyAbad]

Is there a cure for it? I have it .. I am bipolar..and i am not ashamed to disclose it..because I am not denying it.. I wanted to be cured or treated..i am Under treatment for 1 year of meds..then after that half tabs only.. I took Mood stabilizers.. I'm mildy bipolar...

 

P.S. I didn't have it..before.. I just had it lately.. because of the overwhelming life situations..I still look fine.. I'm not the worst bipolar..Marilyn Monroe, Princess Diana ,Vivien Leigh( star of Gone with the wind) have it too.. in the local .. My psychiatrist said that Gretchen Barretto is having it..and the like..

 

Many Bipolars have been "Suicide Lovers"... Case after case.. a manic depressive (another name given to a Bipolar) ends his/her life. Some during their mania and most during their depression.

 

Yes, trauma, life's stressors, concussions, or blunt force to the frontal lobe can trigger the initial cycling of Bipolarity.

 

There is nothing to be ashamed about being Bipolar. Many famous personalities are.... i.e. Alexander d Great, Winston Churchil, Sally Fields, Lord Byron, Edison, Napoleon, Van Gough and many more greats. You are in good company. Bipolars' extreme creativity and superior intelect have helped change the world we live in.

 

To answer your question, Dr Kelso of UCSD/VA San Diego has recently isolated the "bipolar" gene and narrowed it down to chromosome 22. There is now a big push on how we develop better medications as a result of this isolation. In the near future we will have far more effective medications for you.

 

For now, one who is Bipolar, must liken his/her condition to "metal diabetes". As a severe diabetic has to take insulin everyday; so does the bipolar needs to take his/her maintenance medications "Everyday". Unfortunately many Bipolars do not. They either can't afford to fill their RX or they try to save money by skipping days, or when they are in their manic cycle; they feel invincible and do not feel the need to take their medications. "They go off their meds". You can not be highly effective (or high functioning) without your medication.[/b] Your medication is your "mental insulin". "Do Not Go Off Your Meds!"

 

There are a number of medications and combinations there of that your therapist may prescribe. One has to give his/her therapist honest feedback on the effects of the medication he/she is taking. It is from this feedback that your therapist will adjust your dosage and RX combinations (Mood stabilizers, antidepressants, and or anti-convulsants). Once you get the right cocktail of meds and dosage specific to your biofeedback then... you will do just fine and have a happy normal life. :thumbsupsmiley:

 

To all manic-depressive suicide lovers...."CHERISH LIFE"! If you feel that you want to take your life for whatever reason... Just remember that you are cycling and this compulsion or feeling shall pass. Just hang in their.... IT WILL PASS! :flowers:

[JoeyAbad]

Well said Mr Abad. Marami lang sa atin dont really know which is which kaya oftentimes better to be on the safe side and assume na he/she will do it :cool:

 

Yes Dr Love" "Agree"! and good point! :thumbsupsmiley: Any ideations of suicide should be taken seriously. If you are the one that receives suicidal ideations from your love one... then you become the "first responder" and Like Dr love said "Assume that he/she will do it" and get expert help STAT!

[sweeteenia]

Many Bipolars have been "Suicide Lovers"... Case after case.. a manic depressive (another name given to a Bipolar) ends his/her life. Some during their mania and most during their depression.

 

Yes, trauma, life's stressors, concussions, or blunt force to the frontal lobe can trigger the initial cycling of Bipolarity.

 

There is nothing to be ashamed about being Bipolar. Many famous personalities are.... i.e. Alexander d Great, Winston Churchil, Sally Fields, Lord Byron, Edison, Napoleon, Van Gough and many more greats. You are in good company. Bipolars' extreme creativity and superior intelect have helped change the world we live in.

 

To answer your question, Dr Kelso of UCSD/VA San Diego has recently isolated the "bipolar" gene and narrowed it down to chromosome 22. There is now a big push on how we develop better medications as a result of this isolation. In the near future we will have far more effective medications for you.

 

For now, one who is Bipolar, must liken his/her condition to "metal diabetes". As a severe diabetic has to take insulin everyday; so does the bipolar needs to take his/her maintenance medications "Everyday". Unfortunately many Bipolars do not. They either can't afford to fill their RX or they try to save money by skipping days, or when they are in their manic cycle; they feel invincible and do not feel the need to take their medications. "They go off their meds". You can not be highly effective (or high functioning) without your medication.[/b] Your medication is your "mental insulin". "Do Not Go Off Your Meds!"

 

There are a number of medications and combinations there of that your therapist may prescribe. One has to give his/her therapist honest feedback on the effects of the medication he/she is taking. It is from this feedback that your therapist will adjust your dosage and RX combinations (Mood stabilizers, antidepressants, and or anti-convulsants). Once you get the right cocktail of meds and dosage specific to your biofeedback then... you will do just fine and have a happy normal life. :thumbsupsmiley:

 

To all manic-depressive suicide lovers...."CHERISH LIFE"! If you feel that you want to take your life for whatever reason... Just remember that you are cycling and this compulsion or feeling shall pass. Just hang in their.... IT WILL PASS! :flowers:

 

I bet you're a psychiatrist..are you a doctor? I have a problem with my meds coz it's making me gain weight.. that's the culprit//.I gained weight with my mood stabilizer.. That's why i was tempted to stop.. coz i don't want to gain weight..and i'm mildly bipolar lang..It's a mild case..I hate the weight gain..what will i do..?