Olympus Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 This is an honest to goodness question pareng olympus, medyo iba kasi yung beliefs ko pagdating sa cutting/bulking. In my opinion, it's a bodybuilding myth that you cannot gain muscle while losing fat or cut at the same time. Mainly because I know some people who efficiently lose fat and gain muscle simultaneously. Strictly speaking, maybe from a scientific view point, it isnt possible to gain muscle whilst being in an energy deficit, due to the fact that muscle growth is an energy-requiring process, as you can only lose fat if you are in an energy deficit. The trick however for a person to lose fat while gaining muscle is to fluctuate your body betwen energy surplus and deficit at different times of the day or on different days of the week through DIET and EXERCISE. it is not possible though for a person to lose fat while gain muscle if the person is cutting/losing fat extremely since energy reserves would be far too low for muscle growth. but for the main objective, with gentle dieting you can definitely lose fat and grow at the same time. Meals must be small but regular, and to keep growing, its essential to keep protein intake at a high level. the key to effective cutting lies in careful manipulation of your intake of carb. foods, i.e. carbs should be low BUT NOT omitted. Cosume complex starchy carb foods regularly, but in small portions only. That would do the trick.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> It is hard to lose fat and gain muscle at the sme time.. However, we also know that aside from caloric surplus, progressive overload an also lead to muscular hypertrophy... that being the case, a well designed program and proper eating habits can mean a possible increase in strength, which may result in hypertrophy. it takes a very good coach to do this IMHO Quote Link to comment
Equus Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 CARBS and SUGARs - essential in doing your day to day activities. mainly responsible for your calorie source that is the basic fuel of your body. PROTEINS - essential in healing or muscle repair. these guys are what our bodies allocate into the muscles to increase its contraction strength, improve tonicity, etc. MINERALS, SALTS, ELECTROLYTES - These items maintain the acid buffer system on the body for again an optimum contraction requirement... they are also responsible for maintaining the balance of the various organs that secrete hormones that we need with muscle repair such as the pituitary gland, pancreas, etc... GAIN MASS/MUSCLE SIZE - high everything... carbs/sugars/proteins/vitamins and minerals... CUTTING DOWN - Regulate carbs/sugars/proteins but increase or maintain vitamins and minerals... Gaining Muscle Mass - Great increase in protein, preferably with a low caloric index. Take carbs as needed... make sure it has a fairly low lycemic index as well cause we still need carbs to form into glucos so that our insulin can redirect the excessively high protein into our muscles. High amount of water is recommended as well... To answer the myth of trying to bulk up and still get cut, its really a function of the right program and an understanding of what you eat and the various metabolic stages in your body... I know that its better if its simpler but as the needs of the individuals become more particular, then you rearlly have to tailor the eating and lifting program properly... So physiologically, yes, gaining muscle size only and not with the incremental increase in total mass is possible... i have seen it happen.. Quote Link to comment
Olympus Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 Carbs ko : Wheat Bread lang Protein ko: Fish BAngus sugar ko: whey at Carnation yung iba not sure. Kung pano mo sya kainin malaking issue din yan<{POST_SNAPBACK}> bangus lang kinakain mo? Quote Link to comment
Equus Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 holy s@%t pre di ka ba nag sasawa? ko usually bangus, egg whites, babae... hehehehehehehhe (egg whites? itlog ng puti?) Quote Link to comment
Equus Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 hahahahahahaha... good asnwer bro... i rested from workout yesterday... switching my program to EDT, early in the morning... i got great gains from the 8x8 though... now for some weight loss... Quote Link to comment
Olympus Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 hahahahahahaha... good asnwer bro... i rested from workout yesterday... switching my program to EDT, early in the morning... i got great gains from the 8x8 though... now for some weight loss...<{POST_SNAPBACK}> bro, gets mo na concept ng EDT? what cardio would you be using? HIIT parin? Quote Link to comment
Equus Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 gets naman... will do an energy system HIIT probly 1 a week... or do a short type of that as warm up... but the EDT is about increasing intensity and effort everytime you work out in a span of twenty minutes yes? my assumptions correct? Quote Link to comment
Olympus Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 gets naman... will do an energy system HIIT probly 1 a week... or do a short type of that as warm up... but the EDT is about increasing intensity and effort everytime you work out in a span of twenty minutes yes? my assumptions correct?<{POST_SNAPBACK}> not really intensity per se.. either increase density 9 total amount of work done in an amount of time) or add reps or weight.. read the article to get a better idea Quote Link to comment
Olympus Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=459765 -- eto link ng article sa EDT Quote Link to comment
JesusFreak! Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 one - twice a week I pig out... Corn beef, pancit canton, donuts, Zagu. etc. Pero Bangus talaga primary protein ko. Yung babae minsan na lang. Conservative kami eh <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Quote Link to comment
guile1912 Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=459765 -- eto link ng article sa EDT<{POST_SNAPBACK}> LIFTING HEAVY WITH MAXIMUM REPS. SAME BA PO ITO Quote Link to comment
Olympus Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 LIFTING HEAVY WITH MAXIMUM REPS. SAME BA PO ITO <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Iba sha. Read the article to get a better understanding. Quote Link to comment
Pepeng Manas Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 singit ulit question... pano naman kung, gusto ko naman mauna lumaki yung deltoids ko? "target training" ba tawag don? kasi naliliitan ako sa delts ko. parang nauna lumaki yung triceps ko kumpara sa deltoids. yung iba, suggest sa akin, unahin ko raw ang deltoids pag "shoulder day" ko, para di pa depleted ang energy ko. kung baga, full-force ko ma-e-exercise deltoids. meron naman nag-suggest, isingit ko daw ang delt-exercises kahit hindi ko "shoulder day." di ba ma-o-overtrain ang deltoids non at lalong hindi lumaki? ano ba ang tama? thanks guys. Quote Link to comment
Equus Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 dang that EDT crap... pumapangit mukha ko bro at the 15 minute mark... as in... hehehehehe... was able to reach 10 sets in 20 minutes... kept the reps low though... will adjust as needed... Quote Link to comment
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