His Airness Michael Jordan

[tidyaxx]

Totoo wala sikat na defender pero hindi rin hinayaan ng mga refs na palaruin yung mga defender na kagaya nung ginawa kay jordan nung 80s. Pag kalaban ni Jordan bobo team simpleng hawak foul agad.

 

Isa rin question ko lalo na nung early 90s eh talaga si jordan na maghahari nun ksi yung mga nakalaban nya hindi ko makita na magagagling talaga.

 

Yung mga teams din ng early 90s hindi rin competitive.

 

Yung lahat na nakalaban ni jordan sa finals eh talagang matatalo. Hindi dehado si jordan nung 90s. Wala ako nakita team na tinalo si jordan na malakas nung 90s kasi yung lineup ng bulls ang malakas eh.

 

Kung yung dehado team ni jordan nung 80s(especially nung 89 and 90) eh nagchampion eh hands down greatest player sya.

 

Iba ksi pag dehado yung team mo tapos nagchampion ka. Mas iba yung feeling nun eh. Hindi ko nakita yung kay jordan nung 90s.

 

Sa akin ksi ang greatest pag dehado ang team pero natalo yung malupit na team.

 

Si jordan expected naman na matatalo nya nung 90s mga nakalaban nya. Walang kagulat gulat dun.

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tanong ko lang...why did you expect jordan to beat his opponents in the 90's???...because he was so damn great, dominant and complete player that's why!!!

 

it's unfair to say that 90's teams were not competetive...nobody proved to be able to beat jordan in the 90's but that doesnt mean they're run off teams.

 

if the bulls were so good in the 90's its because jordan demanded it...his teammates were not handed to him in silver platter...the bulls organization had to work several years to build a championship caliber team around jordan... it toook them 7 years to finally assemble the winning team....when the other teams failed to match up with the bulls, it was their own fault.. when the teams were not able to defend the triangle offense, it was their own fault...when the teams succumb to pressure team defense led by jordan, pippen and rodman, it's their own fault...there are three rounds in playoffs before getting into the finals...the bulls opponents had several games to try and beat the bulls but they were not successful...hindi tumunganga yang mga yan habang pinapanood si jordan mag shoot...hindi umiwas yang mga yan pag nagdrive si jordan sa basket...am sure they tried their best..unfortunately for them, jordan was so damn great...

 

btw, following your criteria to be considered the greatest player then these would be your candidates:

 

1. willis reed of NY Knics

2. bill walton of Portland Trailblazers

 

eto yung mga leaders ng teams na hindi expected manalo pero nakakuha ng nba title...

 

jordan and bill russell are considered the top two greatest players of all time....etong dalawa na to galing sa teams na hindi dehado..these two were dominating the league during their times...

 

so following your criteria, are you saying that jordan and russell are both inferior to willis reed and bill walton?!?!?!?!?!

[bret_hart]

MJ, JUST LIKE BRET HART IS THE BEST THERE WAS AND THE BEST THERE EVER WILL BE!

[revo20012000]

si jordan buhay pa me rebulto na :cool: d greatest kasi

[revi]

@edc: Re: Globalization of MJ

 

Bakit parating mo sinisisi ang cable and media sa globalization ni Jordan.. even during the time of Bird.. TV was there.. Alam mo edc, dapat naglaro si Bird, Magic, Bill Russel, Wilt lahat nung 90's eh.. Para makita mo na si Jordan pa rin ang mag-glo-globalize ng sport.. Bird will never do it coz he lacked charisma.. Sagutin mo rin ito: May charisma ba si Bird? So hindi siya magiging torch bearer ng basketball kailan man.. Kahit na gaano pa siya ka-talented.. Jordan had the skills, the highlights, the dunks, the extra kick.. walang player na ganun.. Kahit nga si LBJ na sinasabi mo na ibang level kaagad eh hindi mapantayan yun eh.. I heard one person who said na si LBJ daw baduy maglaro - pangit ang form kaya hindi masyado nakikita yung galing nya .. si Jordan ba nasabihan ng ganito ever..

Edited March 23, 2006 by revi

[revi]

Some quotes on players/coaches who once played against Jordan:

 

Isaiah Thomas (1997) - "the greatest player I've ever seen.." - o ayan nakalaro niyan si Bird/Magic ha?

 

Pat Riley (90's): "Sometimes you can build a team that could be a championship team, but you never win because you had the misfortune of being born at the same time that Jordan was. I don't think that anybody is going to win until Michael retires. I just don't. That's just the way it goes." - Comment: I think Riley was saying that when Jordan learned to have confidence on his team mates.. he became unstoppable.. and can never be beaten.. - ayan, Magic, Kareem, Ewing, Mourning was coached by Riley, Bird was not coached but Riley battled the Celtics all through-out sa 80's..

 

Hersey Hawkins: "I don't want him to retire either. I would love to have him a little while longer. I think what he stands for, his personality and his charisma, is so good for the league. But I've got to be honest with you. I like the guy, but he's held me back a lot. I could have had some rings if it wasn't for him." -- Nuff said!

 

Jerry Sloan: When asked what does Jordan have that makes him hard to stop: "His will." - Comment: Hindi talent ano? Kundi puso.. overwhelming at walang takot na magpakamatay para manalo..

 

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How do we define greatness?

 

During the Bulls' 5th championship.. where Kerr hit that 3 point shot to break a deadlock from a pass to Jordan.. remember that? Ganda ano? But that's not what makes Jordan great..

 

Ito: In game 5 of that series, Jordan was nearly exhausted because of food poisoning.. hindi siya kumain ng buong araw before that game.. stomach flu eh.. diarrhea siguro.. Dehydrated.. Any player would have not performed or baka nga hindi pa maglaro eh.. But Jordan was different, he scored 38 points, and capped off that performance with a three pointer to unlock the tied game at 85-all.. naging 88-85.. After that kumapit siya kay Pippen dahil para daw siyang hihimatayin.. Dramatic you say? I say great..

 

This defines Jordan.. how he played the game.. how he improved kahit na-cut siya sa Laney squad nung high school.. how he improved all aspects of his game.. how he had charisma on and off the court and basically how he dominated basketball..

 

Can Bird top that, edc.. Then sabihin mo kung papaano? Bird may be talented.. maybe the greatest in some blind follower's eye.. like yourself.. but the icon Jordan will never be beaten by just a Bird.. Air Jordan is not just a legend.. unlike your Larry Legend.. he is an icon.. may rebulto yan.. bakit si Bird ba meron sa Boston na rebulto.. Baka ang patayuan ng rebulto dun si Bill Russel eh.. dahil isang katutak na championships ang ibinigay niya as player and even as coach..

[Alucard]

Para sa mga maka BIRD

 

NBA's Greatest Moments

"God Disguised as Michael Jordan"

 

On April 20, 1986, inside Boston Garden, Michael Jordan put on an unforgettable show.

 

VIDEO: Game highlights of Michael's 63-point game: RealVideo - 28.8+ | ISDN

Jordan was able to play in only 18 regular-season games in his second year in the NBA, after breaking a small bone in his foot in Chicago's third game of the year. Although he was encouraged to sit out the end of the season in order to make sure he was fully healed for the next, he insisted on coming back late in the season and led the Bulls to the 1986 NBA Playoffs.

 

It was in Game 2 of Chicago's first round matchup against the eventual NBA champion Boston Celtics that Jordan showed just how thoroughly he had recovered. In the hallowed halls of the Boston Garden, he set a playoff record by scoring an amazing 63 points against what many considered to be one of the greatest NBA teams ever. The Celtics won the game, 135-131 in double-overtime, and went on to sweep the Bulls, but Jordan's playoff record still stands.

 

"Michael was doing so much and so well, I found myself just wanting to stop and watch him -- and I was playing," said teammate John Paxson.

 

"I didn't think anyone was capable of doing what Michael has done to us," marveled Celtics ace Larry Bird. "He is the most exciting, awesome player in the game today. I think it's just God disguised as Michael Jordan

[ghetto_gospel]

To top of what tidyaxx, revi and alucard said!!!!!

 

 

Meron akong compilation ni Jordan in vcds, dun buong buhay nya ang naka layout mula ung pagkapanganak nya hanggang pagretire nya sa Bulls!!! Yung mga taong di matanggap ang isang simpleng katotohanan na si MJ ang greatest, PM nyo ko ipapahiram ko sa inyo lahat ng cd ko tungkol sa buong buhay ni Jordan. Pag di pa kayo naconvince na sya ang greatest after nyo mapanood yun .............Gumawa nalang kayo ng isa pang thread tungkol sa greatest baller para sainyo tapos dun nyo na ituloy yung mga walang saysay nyong kahibangan!!!

[howard_the_duck]

Kung gagawa ako ng all-time NBA team...

PG: Magic Johnson

SG: Michael Jordan

SF: Dirk Nowitzki :boo:

PF: Larry Bird

C: Wilt Chamberlain

 

Also, Jordan was a "complete" player, he can score and he can defend.

[Guest airmax]

tanong ko lang...why did you expect jordan to beat his opponents in the 90's???...because he was so damn great, dominant and complete player that's why!!!

 

it's unfair to say that 90's teams were not competetive...nobody proved to be able to beat jordan in the 90's but that doesnt mean they're run off teams.

 

if the bulls were so good in the 90's its because jordan demanded it...his teammates were not handed to him in silver platter...the bulls organization had to work several years to build a championship caliber team around jordan... it toook them 7 years to finally assemble the winning team....when the other teams failed to match up with the bulls, it was their own fault.. when the teams were not able to defend the triangle offense, it was their own fault...when the teams succumb to pressure team defense led by jordan, pippen and rodman, it's their own fault...there are three rounds in playoffs before getting into the finals...the bulls opponents had several games to try and beat the bulls but they were not successful...hindi tumunganga yang mga yan habang pinapanood si jordan mag shoot...hindi umiwas yang mga yan pag nagdrive si jordan sa basket...am sure they tried their best..unfortunately for them, jordan was so damn great...

 

btw, following your criteria to be considered the greatest player then these would be your candidates:

 

1.  willis reed of NY Knics

2.  bill walton of Portland Trailblazers

 

eto yung mga leaders ng teams na hindi expected manalo pero nakakuha ng nba title...

 

jordan and bill russell are considered the top two greatest players of all time....etong dalawa na to galing sa teams na hindi dehado..these two were dominating the league during their times...

 

so following your criteria, are you saying that jordan and russell are both inferior to willis reed and bill walton?!?!?!?!?!

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kung titingnan mo wala namang dominant center ang bulls noong 90's. wala ring silang true point guard during their championship run. but they still won 6 championships.

[Gideon]

MJ, JUST LIKE BRET HART IS THE BEST THERE WAS AND THE BEST THERE EVER WILL BE!

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I don't believe that phrase!

 

There will always be somebody BETTER. It doesn't stop at one point but evolves.

 

Kanya-kanyang panahon lang yan.

 

From Bill Russell, Chamberlain, Bob Cousy, Isiah, Magic, Bird, Jordan, Duncan, Shaq, etc.... To name quite a few.

[Gideon]

I can safely say that Jordan was the Greatest Player during the 90's.

 

That's the time where he won 6 NBA Championships and everything.

 

The 90's was Jordan's time. And it will be forever be in our memory.

[lover_bong]

:mtc: TAMA KA JAN BRO...JORDAN ALWAYS STRIVES TO IMPROVE HIS GAME THAT MAKES HIM ABOVE THE REST...SAKA WHEN HE ENTERS ON THE FLOR MAKIKITA MO KAAGAD SA KANYANG MATA YUNG DETERMINATION :mtc: ...

buhay na buhay na naman ang thread na ito ah!!! :thumbsupsmiley:  makasabat na nga po...that's what makes michael jordan great.he makes scoring look so easy that you will think na mababa ang quality ng mga players defending him.gary payton,john starks,bad boys of detroit,don't tell me na bobo sa depensa ang mga ito.

    another thing i admire about MJ is he always strives to improve his skills.pag pasok nya sa NBA he is known to be more of a slasher/penetrator.pero as the years went by,he developed a mean 20-foot jumper that is so hard to defend against.

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[edc]

Pero kung panunuodin nyo yung 90s basketball eh talagang kulang sa competition eh. Jordan excelled nung wala na yung magagaling at matatanda na. Aasahan mananalo si jordan dahil hindi ganun ka-competitive teams nung 90s.

 

Imagine nyo na lng last championship ni jordan ang magbabantay sa kanya eh bryon russell and hornacek? hindi ba obvious naman yun.

 

Kasi greatest na pinaguusapan dito. Ngayon yung pagigigng greatest ni jordan debate yan. "Arguably" kasi hindi sya nagchampion nung 80s nag grabe competition.

 

Kung nagchampion nung 80s wla ako masasabi.

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@Revi

 

Yung rebulto kahit sino pde magpagawa nun. Marami NBA players(retired) na may rebulto eh. Ito year lang meron isang player na ginawa ng rebulto.

 

Tapos yung tungkol naman kay Lebron James. Nagrereklamo ka na ayaw tumira ng last shot, Nung isang araw tumira na, pasok.

 

Masyado nyo inaapura si Lebron. 3 or 4 years pa lng sa NBA yan. Tapos yung expectation sa kanya grabe. (Remember pumasok sya sa NBA to contribute Right Away. Wala ng Break-in na nangyari)

Kaya sinabi ko special si Lebron James kasi bata pa lang mataas basketball IQ nya. Last Game nya na-double team sya pinasa nya kay FLip Murray. Pero nung hindi na sya nadouble team tinira na nya.

 

Tapos sasabihin baduy? Ang hindi ko maintindihan pag Bwakaw na player lalo na nung early years nila kobe and iverson hindi baduy. Maporma daw yung ganun!

 

Pero si Lebron na sa early years nya narerecognize nya agad teammates nya. Mas mahirap baguhin ang pagiging bwakaw.

 

Kasi iba tingin ko sa Basketball. Iba-iba klase ng panalo. May nanalo sa pagiging bwakaw may nanalo na pinapasa ang bola. Mas natutuwa ako dun sa pasa na ginawa ni Lebron kaysa dun sa Last-Second shot. Mas beauty yung makikita mo yung open man eh.

 

Tapos Triple Double pa ginawa nya nun.(Bihira yan sa isang Shooting guard/Small Forward)

 

Si jordan kasi nung early years hindi nya iniivolve teammates nya. Nainvolve na lng nung si Phil Jackson naging coach. Pero si Lebron hindi naman malupit lineup ng cavs pero iniinvolve nya. Natatakot ba kayo malalagpasan ni Lebron si Jordan?

 

If you are really good your can make your teammates better. If you are only willing to pass the ball.

Edited March 24, 2006 by edc

[mariano]

Pero kung panunuodin nyo yung 90s basketball eh talagang kulang sa competition eh. Jordan excelled nung wala na yung magagaling at matatanda na. Aasahan mananalo si jordan dahil hindi ganun ka-competitive teams nung 90s.

 

Imagine nyo na lng last championship ni jordan ang magbabantay sa kanya eh bryon russell and hornacek? hindi ba obvious naman yun.

 

Kasi greatest na pinaguusapan dito. Ngayon yung pagigigng greatest ni jordan debate yan. "Arguably" kasi hindi sya nagchampion nung 80s nag grabe competition.

 

Kung nagchampion nung 80s wla ako masasabi.

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@Revi

 

Yung rebulto kahit  sino pde magpagawa nun. Marami NBA  players(retired) na may rebulto eh. Ito year lang meron isang player na ginawa ng rebulto.

 

Tapos yung tungkol naman kay Lebron James. Nagrereklamo ka na ayaw tumira ng last shot, Nung isang araw tumira na, pasok.

 

Masyado nyo inaapura si Lebron. 3 or 4 years pa lng sa NBA yan. Tapos yung expectation sa kanya grabe. (Remember pumasok sya sa NBA to contribute Right Away. Wala ng Break-in na nangyari)

Kaya sinabi ko special si Lebron James kasi bata pa lang mataas basketball IQ nya. Last Game nya na-double team sya pinasa nya kay FLip Murray. Pero nung hindi na sya nadouble team tinira na nya.

 

Tapos sasabihin baduy? Ang hindi ko maintindihan pag Bwakaw na player lalo na nung early years nila kobe and iverson hindi baduy. Maporma daw yung ganun!

 

Pero si Lebron na sa early years nya narerecognize nya agad teammates nya. Mas mahirap baguhin ang pagiging bwakaw.

 

Kasi iba tingin ko sa Basketball. Iba-iba klase ng  panalo. May nanalo sa pagiging bwakaw may nanalo na pinapasa ang bola. Mas natutuwa ako dun sa pasa na ginawa ni Lebron kaysa dun sa Last-Second shot. Mas beauty yung makikita mo yung open man eh.

 

Tapos Triple Double pa ginawa nya nun.(Bihira yan sa isang Shooting guard/Small Forward)

 

Si jordan kasi nung early years hindi nya iniivolve teammates nya. Nainvolve na lng nung si Phil Jackson naging coach. Pero si Lebron hindi naman malupit lineup ng cavs pero iniinvolve nya. Natatakot ba kayo malalagpasan ni Lebron si Jordan?

 

If you are really good your can make your teammates better. If you are only willing to pass the ball.

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si bird di ba 80's nagchampion? so sya ang greatest? alam mo pare, hindi mo masasabing hindi competitive ang 90's eh. andyan ang knicks, sina barkley, sila malone, payton and kemp, drexler, shaq. . lahat yan kinalaban ni jordan. alam mo parekoy, kung 80's o 90's yan, competitive yan kasi laging may lalabas na magaling na makakatapat ni jordan.

 

hindi mo pwedeng sabihin na puro sa 80's lang ang competition. NBA yan parekoy. maging objective ka naman. kung si bird ang greatest sayo, ok. pero be objective naman sa mga sinasabi mo na hindi competitive ang 90's. unfair na sabihin yon. kanya kanyang panahon lang yan. and nagkataon nagpeak si jordan nung 90's. search mo nga muna sa internet kung ano sinasabi ng kapwa niya players tungkol sa kanya bago ka magcomment ng ganyan.

 

isa lang ang punto nito eh, unfair na sabihin na hindi competitive nung 90's. IMHO. kasi andyan din ang ibang magagaling. entyendes???

[ghetto_gospel]

si bird di ba 80's nagchampion? so sya ang greatest? alam mo pare, hindi mo masasabing hindi competitive ang 90's eh. andyan ang knicks, sina barkley, sila malone, payton and kemp, drexler, shaq. . lahat yan kinalaban ni jordan. alam mo parekoy, kung 80's o 90's yan, competitive yan kasi laging may lalabas na magaling na makakatapat ni jordan.

 

hindi mo pwedeng sabihin na puro sa 80's lang ang competition. NBA yan parekoy. maging objective ka naman. kung si bird ang greatest sayo, ok. pero be objective naman sa mga sinasabi mo na hindi competitive ang 90's. unfair na sabihin yon. kanya kanyang panahon lang yan. and nagkataon nagpeak si jordan nung 90's. search mo nga muna sa internet kung ano sinasabi ng kapwa niya players tungkol sa kanya bago ka magcomment ng ganyan.

 

isa lang ang punto nito eh, unfair na sabihin na hindi competitive nung 90's. IMHO. kasi andyan din ang ibang magagaling. entyendes???

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Entyendes amigo!!! Tumpak ang sinabi mo!!! :thumbsupsmiley: