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[bubuy]

mga bro.. cno ba sa inyo ang merong SuSE Linux Professional 9.1 Live CD? wala na kasi sa website ng Novell eh.. 9.2 na lang ung nandun.. :cry:

[mikhailberis]

mga bro.. cno ba sa inyo ang merong SuSE Linux Professional 9.1 Live CD? wala na kasi sa website ng Novell eh.. 9.2 na lang ung nandun.. :cry:

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Live? Lemme check... Have you tried the Philippine Linux Users Group?

[bukn0y]

SUSE LINUX - SUSE 9.1 Personal

link: http://www.linuxiso.org/download.php/593/S...ersonal-x86.iso

 

SUSE LINUX - SuSE 9.1 live-eval

link: http://www.linuxiso.org/download.php/590/LiveCD-9.1-01.iso

 

SUSE LINUX - SUSE 9.1 FTP Install

link: http://www.linuxiso.org/download.php/594/boot.iso

[bukn0y]

Mandrake 10.1 Official

 

Mandrake - Install CD 1

http://www.linuxiso.org/download.php/604/M...ad-CD1.i586.iso

 

Mandrake - Install CD 2

http://www.linuxiso.org/download.php/605/M...ad-CD2.i586.iso

 

Mandrake - Install CD 3

http://www.linuxiso.org/download.php/606/M...ad-CD3.i586.iso

 

Mandrake - Mini Install CD

http://www.linuxiso.org/download.php/631/M...l-Mini.i586.iso

 

Mandrake - Install DVD

http://www.linuxiso.org/download.php/632/M...ad-DVD.i586.iso

[kakaiba]

fedora core 2 rules!!!

 

redhat & fedora core is the easiest distro od linux to install.

just follow the gui based installation and your up and running in no time.

 

you can also check out the mandrake distro if u like...

 

better DE? as an experienced linux user, i'll go for kde.

gnome is better off with the newbies.

but still, it's a personal thingy.

 

don't forget to practice your command-line habits.

it's teh best tool ever.

[mikhailberis]

fedora core 2 rules!!!

 

redhat & fedora core is the easiest distro od linux to install.

just follow the gui based installation and your up and running in no time.

 

you can also check out the mandrake distro if u like...

 

better DE? as an experienced linux user, i'll go for kde.

gnome is better off with the newbies.

but still, it's a personal thingy.

 

don't forget to practice your command-line habits.

it's teh best tool ever.

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Have you tried Debian? IMHO it's so much easier to administer and configure. RPM's are a headache to maintain, especially with the dependency problems you may (and probably would) encounter in the future.

[bubuy]

Live? Lemme check... Have you tried the Philippine Linux Users Group?

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haven't checked yet..

 

SUSE LINUX - SuSE 9.1 live-eval

link: http://www.linuxiso.org/download.php/590/LiveCD-9.1-01.iso

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bro meron ka ba alam ung hindi eval???

[Kali_Angel]

me mabibiling pirated na linux.. hehe

yung Suse.. me nakita akong nagtitinda nyan na hindi eval..

pero teka.. matatawag mo bang pirated yun e open source ang linux db?

 

im using redhat right now, yun kasi ang server namin sa web forms namin..

 

eto yung na-encounter kong problem:

di ko ma-install yung firefox..

sorry a, linux newbie lang ako e...

 

im using RH 7.1...

installed it using the default server setup..

ano keya cause ng prob...

me hinahanap syang "so" ehh..

Edited May 4, 2005 by jonas101

[boyGenius]

me mabibiling pirated na linux.. hehe

yung Suse.. me nakita akong nagtitinda nyan na hindi eval..

pero teka.. matatawag mo bang pirated yun e open source ang linux db?

 

im using redhat right now, yun kasi ang server namin sa web forms namin..

 

eto yung na-encounter kong problem:

di ko ma-install yung firefox..

sorry a, linux newbie lang ako e...

 

im using RH 7.1...

installed it using the default server setup..

ano keya cause ng prob...

me hinahanap syang "so" ehh..

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files ending in so are the dynamic library files used by many binaries like firefox. What you can do is look for the exact filename of the so file you referring to from google. Try to figure out the RPM package it belongs to. Or maybe post the exact filename here and we'll help you find out the package you need to install to get firefox up and running.

[mikhailberis]

me mabibiling pirated na linux.. hehe

yung Suse.. me nakita akong nagtitinda nyan na hindi eval..

pero teka.. matatawag mo bang pirated yun e open source ang linux db?

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Actually, it's true that Linux (the kernel) is released under the GPL -- pero that doesn't mean na hindi pwede na proprietary software yung nagrurun or kasama sa kanya. Usually yung installers are distributed with a fee, which directly benefits the producers of the distribution like RedHat and SuSE. However, once you make unauthorized copies of these intallers, you're effectively stealing from the producers earnings they'd be making if people bought the products directly from them (or through authorized distribution sources). This here, is piracy.

 

Now, if you happen to get a hold of an installer (through legitimate channels), it entitles you to avail of technical support from the company that produced the installer. Marami pang stipulations regarding the technical support offerings depending on the version you availed of, and the extent of your deployment. Of course, technical support is rarely free -- since this is where the companies make their living out of.

 

So matatawag mong pirated copy yung installer lalo na kung may license regarding the use and posession of the installer and explicit prohibition of making unauthorized copies to be sold or otherwise distributed without the expressed written consent of the manufacturers and producers of the installer.

 

Makes sense ba?

[chagascon]

Fedora Core 2 will become obsolete in June when Core 4 comes out.

 

Using FC 3 and Ubuntu at home, CentOS 4 at work.

 

For commercialized linux, there are clones of them like RHEL = CentOS/WBEL. Mikh is right, it's the support you're paying for. Most of the software in the OS itself are open source anyway, or ports ot them, and can be found in other OSes. But is the difference more on the packaging and interoperability of all the software in it? Like configurations, tools, etc?

[boyGenius]

Actually, it's true that Linux (the kernel) is released under the GPL -- pero that doesn't mean na hindi pwede na proprietary software yung nagrurun or kasama sa kanya. Usually yung installers are distributed with a fee, which directly benefits the producers of the distribution like RedHat and SuSE. However, once you make unauthorized copies of these intallers, you're effectively stealing from the producers earnings they'd be making if people bought the products directly from them (or through authorized distribution sources). This here, is piracy.

 

Now, if you happen to get a hold of an installer (through legitimate channels), it entitles you to avail of technical support from the company that produced the installer. Marami pang stipulations regarding the technical support offerings depending on the version you availed of, and the extent of your deployment. Of course, technical support is rarely free -- since this is where the companies make their living out of.

 

So matatawag mong pirated copy yung installer lalo na kung may license regarding the use and posession of the installer and explicit prohibition of making unauthorized copies to be sold or otherwise distributed without the expressed written consent of the manufacturers and producers of the installer.

 

Makes sense ba?

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I disagree distributing a copy of any of the Linux distro a form of piracy even if you charge a fee. Please remember GPLed software guarantees freedom of using the software including modification, distribution (with or without a fee) and redistribution of the modified GPLed software provided you acknowledge the original author's copyleft (term coined as copyright for GPLed software) over the software and include the source code of the modified version of the software.

 

Most if not all distros include packages that are GPLed including packages they developed (e.g. RPM by Redhat). Fedora, Redhat, Suse and others distributes only packages under GPL license. Everyone, is entitled to copy their installers and redistributes it for a fee. Unless of course you make a copy of let say Suse Installer and call it under another name without noting that it is based on Suse, only then you break the GPL license.

 

Of course there are plenty of proprietary software in Linux. Thus, their source code is not distributed and there not GPLed. Distributing this type of software is completely illegal.

 

Distros like RedHat and Suse doesn't make money by distributing their software in a CD. They make money on support and trainings which is what GPL and Free Software Foundation is trying to preach. Software must be free, one only pays if he need whatever services by using the software.

 

For more information about the GPL license please read http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html

 

Hope this clears things up. :cool:

[mikhailberis]

Fedora Core 2 will become obsolete in June when Core 4 comes out.

 

Using FC 3 and Ubuntu at home, CentOS 4 at work.

 

For commercialized linux, there are clones of them like RHEL = CentOS/WBEL. Mikh is right, it's the support you're paying for. Most of the software in the OS itself are open source anyway, or ports ot them, and can be found in other OSes. But is the difference more on the packaging and interoperability of all the software in it? Like configurations, tools, etc?

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Thanks for the heads up cha.

 

The difference is the actual notice which comes with the product. Some of the tools (like the installer, the images, the specialized tools) come in different licenses. Not all of these are under the GPL. It's best to read up on the licenses that accompany the software you buy/use.

 

I disagree distributing a copy of any of the Linux distro a form of piracy even if you charge a fee. Please remember GPLed software guarantees freedom of using the software including modification, distribution (with or without a fee) and redistribution of the modified GPLed software provided you acknowledge the original author's copyleft (term coined as copyright for GPLed software) over the software and include the source code of the modified version of the software.

 

Most if not all distros include packages that are GPLed including packages they developed (e.g. RPM by Redhat). Fedora, Redhat, Suse and others distributes only packages under GPL license. Everyone, is entitled to copy their installers and redistributes it for a fee. Unless of course you make a copy of let say Suse Installer and call it under another name without noting that it is based on Suse, only then you break the GPL license.

 

Of course there are plenty of proprietary software in Linux. Thus, their source code is not distributed and there not GPLed. Distributing this type of software is completely illegal.

 

Distros like RedHat and Suse doesn't make money by distributing their software in a CD. They make money on support and trainings which is what GPL and Free Software Foundation is trying to preach. Software must be free, one only pays if he need whatever services by using the software.

 

For more information about the GPL license please read http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html

 

Hope this clears things up.  :cool:

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Well, since you put it that way, we must make a distinction between the software under the GPL and the installer which comes in a box. If you have a box which contains the RHEL installer, you would most probably want to read the written documentation which specifically says that making copies and distributing the copies without the expressed written consent of RedHat would be deemed "illegal". Either that, or I'm misinterpreting the point of why RHEL installers may not be copied or distributed by anauthorized dealers.

 

And Yes, RedHat and SuSE make money by selling their products (even in a minimal fashion) but they make more money off the technical support they offer.

 

And yes, I've read the license, and don't dispute the validity of the license. It's just that not all the software in these distributions are under the GPL.

[l3v3l]

IMHO.. using linux is easier if you the basic knowledge

of commands used using the command line like..

- ls

- cp

- ln

- mkdir

- rmdir

- rm

and the likes..

because these commands help get around the system

and manipulate some files.. also you should be familiar

with VIM editor as it is commonly found on almost all

distros.. but I do prefer joe...feels like im using wordstar

when using joe kasi.. hehehehe

[hyperaxe]

a linux user here as well .. been using RedHat most of the time, until Fedora Linux came.. but I also had some play time with Debian and Slackware before ..

 

lately, I've been experimenting with UML (User Mode Linux).. which I think is used by some VPS (Virtual Private Server) providers .. it's kinda cool since you can install different distros in 1 host OS .. right now I have RedHat 9 host, wherein Debian and Slackware distros virtually resides .. moreover, they virtual networks can also be used so they can really run services independently.. i can help if you want to play with UML yourself .. i have some info you can check out at my site ..

Edited May 6, 2005 by hyperaxe