skitz Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 mukhang pera talaga si pacman. isipin mo pumirma na sa golden boy nung makita na mas malaki ang pera sa top rank pumirma din siya kaya hayun gulo ang resulta dahil sa pera. sana magsilbing aral ito sa iba. Tell you what, let us start a peitition to get Fr. James Reuter to fight Marco Antonio Barera... yan ang good example sa mga Pinoy! Quote Link to comment
wolflove_bigdawg Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 Boxing yan, talagang money talks. Lahat ng pro, ang habol bigger payday. There is no honor in pro boxing. Lalo na pag pera ang usapan. Ang problema kay Pacquiao, tanga ang mga nakapaligid sa kanya. Si Pacquiao maiintindihan mo dahil siya naman ang boksingero at hindi mo naman na maaasahan na naiintindihan niya lahat ang ng mga alalahanin sa pagpasok sa kontrata. Hindi din naman nakapag aral yan. Ang may sagot niyan dapat, yung mga tao sa paligid niya. Hindi man lang binasa yung fine print ng contract na hindi siya puwedeng pumirma kung hindi pa tapos ang laban kay Morales. Ayun, nagkabutas ngayon si Arum na pakitaan siya ng mas mataas na kontrata para umatras kay De Lao Hoya. Kung wala pang napirmahang kontrata yang si Pacquiao kay De La Hoya, hindi maghahanap ng magandang laban yan si Arum na may mas mataas na pera para kay Pacquaio. Sa isang banda, nakatulong din yung pagpirma kay De La Hoya para mapilit si Top Rank na gumawa ng mas malaking laban para sa kanya. Ang mali lang, nakapirma na siya kaya pag atras niya, kahit sabihing nagkamali lang sila, di pa rin magandang tingnan. Mas mabuti kung nakipag negotiate lang siya, kinalat niya yung offer ni Goldenb Boy at nagpa price war siya. Pero talagang kulang sa diskarte, mula kay Pacquaio at sa mga taong nakpaligid sa kanya na dapat mas alam nyan. Para namang di sila kumukubra ng malaki sa panalo ni Pacquiao kaya't dapat alam nila ang tamang gawin dahil binabayaran sila para alamin ang tamang gawin. Ano pa ang dahilan at hindi nabigyan ng magandang abiso si Pacquiao, kasalanan na yan ng mga dapat magbigay ng abiso. Pag nagkademandahan yan tuloy, freezer si Pacquaio at walang laban. pacman is living up to his monicker. kain lang ng kain hehehe. ok lang yun pac. this is your time to make tons of money. bihira sa mga boxers ang nakakarating sa ganyang estado so make the most of it. kaso wag pirma ng pirma pag nabigyan ng bolpen hehehe. marami dyan gustong gumawa ng pera from your efforts. study the business of promotion and don't trust anyone. everybody wants to be your friend pag madami kang pera. "only the paranoid survives!" Quote Link to comment
MRyoso Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 sana lang hindi masama sa dimenda si manny kung nagkataon,mas malaking pera ang mawawala sa kanya but golden boy parin ako Quote Link to comment
straightboy Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 huwag magkamali si manny pumasok sa politika , mang yari kapag FLOP "sasabihin nya wala ako alam dyan kailangan ko supporta nyo , soporta ng taong bayan" kawawa tayo lahat Quote Link to comment
greenarrow Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 KO artist lined up for Pacquiao? By Joaquin HensonThe Philippine Star 11/28/2006 http://www.philstar.com/philstar/NEWS200611281606.htm Quote Link to comment
reddhat Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 (edited) This is what I have in mind, Pacquiao should fight Barrera. Should Pacquiao wins, then Valero and Guzman should slug it out to gain a shot of fighting Pacquiao. Edited November 28, 2006 by reddhat Quote Link to comment
fatso8 Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Dream match ko for now ang Pacquiao-Valero.. Beat the pretender agad bago magkaroon ng kumpyansa. Valero's 20W-0L-20KOs record sure looks impressive pero ang napabilib ako is on the 18 straight 1st round KOs. Even Tyson, Mayweather Jr, Ali, or Pacquiao didn't knock their 1st 18 opponents in the 1st round. Valero may have fought patsies, pero who didn't?! After disposing Valero, then he can beat up MAB again! Quote Link to comment
MRyoso Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Dream match ko for now ang Pacquiao-Valero.. Beat the pretender agad bago magkaroon ng kumpyansa. Valero's 20W-0L-20KOs record sure looks impressive pero ang napabilib ako is on the 18 straight 1st round KOs. Even Tyson, Mayweather Jr, Ali, or Pacquiao didn't knock their 1st 18 opponents in the 1st round. Valero may have fought patsies, pero who didn't?! After disposing Valero, then he can beat up MAB again! not impressed with valero i saw some highlights of his 19th fight too slow no defense just power buy mp has more power mp will eat him alive Quote Link to comment
skitz Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Has this Valero guy fought anyone substantial? Was he ever tested by an (at least) legitimate contender? Baka naman walang panga yan... Manny has proven that he can take a punch... Quote Link to comment
zeromike22 Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Manny obviously wants to fight boxers in the early 30's where again he will have an easy win and bring home the bacon (kuno!) to his Filipino countrymen.. regarding on the issue of money. Valero is a reigning WBA champion so it will again be a big payday for both fighters. Valero is more explosive, young, and hungry...20-0 professional record, 18 first round knockouts.. This must be a good fighter. If Mr Pookyaw wants to seal his supremacy in the featherweight division, then this will be his legitimate chance to do it.and not by beating Lolo Barrera. Quote Link to comment
clubber_lang Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Valero may have no defense whatsoever but if he and Pacquiao turn this to a slugfest, this would be the most entertaining fight Pacquiao has ever been a part of... Just two raging bulls in a ring! That's my kind of boxing... A lot of people like their boxing in a scientific way. Me? I prefer bloody contests. Hagler-Hearns, that's a fight! Not the longest fight, but simply one of the most brutal... Quote Link to comment
MRyoso Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 i find guzman more impressive than valero but still, its jmm who i strongly believe can beat mp Quote Link to comment
clubber_lang Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 JMM would be a good matchtoo. Just to settle once and for all who is the better fighter. Either way you look at it, their first fight left fight fans wondering... Quote Link to comment
XTC_SLR Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 probably jmm fight first barrera then the winner will face pacquiao Quote Link to comment
brawler201 Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 (edited) For leagcy purposes, I'd rather have Pacaquiao fight Barrera first. If he gets his belts, he will also be probably installed by Ring Magazine as their people's champ which is currently vacant. I guess they're keeping it vacant for him. He only needs to repeat his featherweight match victory of Barrera at the higher weight class to formally lay claim to this. Even if he wins against Valero and/or Guzman and get their belts, the best Jr. Lightweight people's title will probably still be left empty untill Pacquaio squares off with Marco. If Juan Miguel Marquez gets Marco's belts first (in the event that the legal wranglings pushes back the Barrera fight and marco ends up squaring off with Marquez) then it might even get more complicated as he needs to beat them both to become undisputed People's champ. If there will be no legal obstacles, fight Barrera for the legacy and Ring's People's title then fight Juan Miguel Marquez for closure if he's still up to it. I'm betting that Juan Miguel Marquez will be a little bit slower and much easier to hit at the higher weight class. But he is still the most dangerous fighter out there for Pacquiao who can beat him without really hurting him as he is a great counterpuncher. After that, if the money is right, Pacquiao can give the younger studs a big a chance and a also a chance for him to clean out the division. However, I see that Pacquiao will steam roll past Guzman even if he's a better boxer than Valero as he won't be able to withstand Pacman's onslaught and new found defense and footwork. For Valero, as Clubber said, old style slam bang affair. I give the big edge to the experienced, battled scarred, championship calibre and harder hitting Pacquaio. Sure Valero can hit but his defense and chin has never been tested. Mosquera, the WBA champ he knocked out in the 10th can never be mistaken to be in the same class as Barrera or Morales. And Valero hasn't been hit by someone who can break his nose in three places as well. Ask Lesoholo Ledwaba who was unhittable as a Featherweight champ and had more than decent power and a strong chin. Of course, those fights, even with legitimate belts at stake won't guarantee a huge payday (ask Marquez who as WBA champ went to Indonesia to defend it against Chris John for $ 35,000) and after the Barrera and Morales fights, assuming that Pacquiao wins, will only be taken at the right price. If he loses, a rematch trilogy with Barrera and/or Morales wil take precedence for all the obvious reasons (BIGGER MONEY) and the fights with Valero and Guzman will be remote. They'll be left licking their chops on a missed big payday and should just start their own rivalry if they're really that good and a lot better than Pacquaio as harped about. Maybe they'll earn more and become bigger names than Manny. Edited November 28, 2006 by brawler201 Quote Link to comment
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