maginoo Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 bakit kaya kada nananalo si pacquiao, bumababa ang halaga ng dolyar? Quote Link to comment
Mike_Lowrey21 Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 ang daming posibilidad pag ke manny. hindi mo masisi lahat. pero tulad ng nasabi na ng marami, kung saan madaming pera, dun si manny hehehe hindi mo masisi ung tao kahit limpak na pera niya. more money, more power. hehehe kung tatantsahin mo kay david diaz siya kikita kahit "challenger" lang sya kasi exciting at may draw din ito kumpara kay marquez "trisikol king" valero at guzman. kahit "challenger" lang si pacman, hindi bababa ng $3 million dapat yan. walang katalo talo. hehehe malamang hindi din papayag si pacman na sobrang laki diperensya nila ni diaz sa pera kahit champion siya... pwede pa nang tig $4 million sila ni diaz eh kasi pareho naman silang exciting na boksingero. ke marquez swerte na maka $3 million si pacman at cguro $1.5 m lang si jmm.. hehehe kasi nga mahina ang crowd draw niya kahit champion sya. parang san antonio sa nba di ba? hehehe. un nga lang hindi tulad sa nba, pag gumaling ka wala kang choice kundi labanan ang champion (kung ung champion ang umangat sa kabila, di ba?) pero sa boksing pwede kang pumili ng kalaban at korona. kaya karapatan ni manny un. huwag sanang masamaiin desisyon niya kung ayaw nga niya ke marquez kung totoo ang balita. hindi sa takot ung mama, hindi lang siya kikita hindi mo naman siya masisisi di ba? 12 rounds na bakbakan na hindi biro ulit yan ke JMM tulad ng ke barrera sulitin mo na bayad di ba? hehehe. pero kung si diaz gusto niya dapat 3 o 4 na buwan siya magensayo. hindi biro itong talunin. pinatumba niya ng todo si morales sa huling laban niya eh. kaya pacman, diaz ka na lang. hehehe. hindi dahil top rank din siya. dyan me pera eh champion pa yan at sikat din tulad mo hehehe Quote Link to comment
bret_hart Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 Kasi kung talaga totoo hindi nagdadahilan si pacquiao eh bakit hindi matuloy tuloy yung laban nya kay Juan Manuel.....Parang iniiwasan ni Manny eh..... Manny Pacquiao, TALO!!!Manny Pacquiao talo kay Rustico Torrecampo by Knockout!!! Heheheheh!!!Ano na sunod kay Manny Pacquiao ngayon? Takot sya lumaban kay Marquez eh... it's actually the other way around... si Marquez ang umiiwas kay Pacman. matagal na pinipilit ang rematch nila, ang daming dahilan ni Marquez para di nya kalabanin si Manny. gaya din sya ni Barrera noon. sabi nya pag nanalo si Manny kay Morales kakalabanin nya si Pacquiao, nung nanalo na si Pacquiao, ibang Pacquiao dawe ang hinahamon nya, si Bobby Pacquiao daw ang sinasabi nya. pero wala din napilitan na sya labanan si Manny para bago sya mag-retire madami syang pera. Quote Link to comment
stud Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 I dont think anyone in the current division will win over pacman. He should move up a division to face those that are the best. We just hope Pacquiao will not be distracted by the celebrity status he is now in. He got only a good couple of years ahead of him and he is not getting any younger. Fresh legs will sure come up the stage and challenge him. Quote Link to comment
Clinks Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Di ba na head butt? nope....that was bec of Manny's left Quote Link to comment
darksoulriver Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Much better to move at lightweight rather stay sa superfeatherweight. on the last weight-in vs barrera, Pacman looks exhausted at umamin na hirap syang kunin yung 130 lbs limit. Boxer's at 130lbs wla na syang mapapala dhil almost wlang pera ang kalaban. If sa lighweights a better future for the Pacman... Puno nnman ng pera ang bulsa ng mga linta ni Pacman... lol Quote Link to comment
bret_hart Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Mexico’s Barrerun backpedals into the sunsetOctober 10, 2007 03:29:00Recah TrinidadInquirer LOS ANGELES -- Mexico’s Marco Antonio Barrera should’ve put up a fighting final stand instead of dance that cutesy waltz to the sunset last Saturday (Sunday in Manila). Rather than endlessly retreat, he should’ve figured in a screaming farewell shootout, with both fists blazing, against Manny Pacquiao in the Nevada Desert. Sorry, but it was only after having successfully avoided a brutal confrontation that Barrera was able to leave the prizefight stage with his handsome profile intact. The war script, written with the blood and tears of Emiliano Zapata Julio Cesar Chavez, called for a yours-or-mine, no-tomorrow slug-out. * * * You know what? If Pacquiao, certified fearless warrior, had, say, done something resembling the cheap manner Barrera had run his way to retirement, the Filipino superstar would’ve surely gotten more than his share of rotten tomatoes from adoring countrymen. But, wow, instead of jeers, Barrera received a big ovation for his soft, indecisive stand before gullible countrymen in Las Vegas last Saturday. Yes, Barrera got applauded despite having unwittingly given Mexican machismo a sissy ring to it. * * * To uphold the degeneration, there was the great Oscar De La Hoya to embrace Barrera with a wild ovation as he entered the over-filled media hall at Mandalay Bay Hotel nearly an hour after his bout with Pacquiao. It’s not easy to determine how Golden Boy wove the magic. It was a final scene out of great Indian-Cowboy war movies. There, all of a sudden, was the hero, whom De La Hoya would refer to as Gran Campeon, aglow, beaming like a debutante, under the blinding pop and flash of cameras. Barrera also wore his red badge of courage -- a tiny wound under his puffed left eye. * * * His handler, Tony Rivera, would proudly claim that, if not for a headbutt, Barrera would’ve finished the bout clean, unscathed. What headbutt? What did he mean clean? For the record, Pacquiao tried his best to play it clean all throughout. It was however Barrera who had to bend truly low when he sneaked in a foul right hand off a break. This was late in the 11th round, Pacquiao had just ripped in a thunder-clap combination, and it had become clear that, if not for the dirty shot that merited a point deduction, Barrera would’ve been crushed cold. * * * Anyway, these sordid details should’ve been similarly flushed off together with all the pre-fight debris. But, come to think of it, didn’t Barrera also make claims earlier that Filipinos would be in for a shock? Well, Barrera may have indeed been better prepared on Saturday than when he got mangled by Pacquiao in Texas four years ago. But as to the claim that his one-sided loss at Mandalay Bay had sufficiently plucked the thorn in his side planted by Pacquiao following that 11th round knockout, Barrera is hereby advised to check again. * * * It’s like this. Barrera on Saturday survived another ordeal without having to beg on his knees. Great. But did he really put up a gallant, noble fight? The answer would be properly provided by a small group of chanting Filipino fans in the upper box section, who also succeeded in re-Christening the once fearless Barrera. There were deafening cries of Barre-RUN, Barre-RUN, Barre-RUN, from the Filipino group under the baton of real estate expert Ferdi Dalope, as the rounds wore on. Marco, the Baby-faced Assassin, was shocking enough as he earned a new name while back-pedalling to the final sunset of an otherwise glorious career. PACMAN Quote Link to comment
bret_hart Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 P308-M payday for PacquiaoOctober 10, 2007 03:02:00Inquirer LAS VEGAS -- Manny Pacquiao earned a whopping $7 million (about P308 million) from his recent fight with Mexican legend Marco Antonio Barrera, according to a source close to the Filipino ring celebrity. The source, who is part of Pacquiao’s entourage in the United States, said the hard-hitting southpaw collected as much as $3 million in prize money, $2 million from United States pay-per-view sales and another $2 million from his share of the local pay-per-view pie. The fight’s co-promoters, Top Rank and Golden Boy Promotions, officially pegged Pacquiao’s fight purse at $2 million. The source, however, said Pacquiao was assured of an amount “very close to $3 million” after his abrupt decision to train for the Barrera fight in Cebu two months ago. Meanwhile, the Pacman could be headed to more mega-buck bouts, triggering a scramble among a slew of elite fighters to book a ticket opposite the Filipino. Another Team Pacquiao source said there are plans to increase to at least four per year the number of times he fights in the next two years. And the cash windfall he normally gets from his fights could turn into a hurricane. The leading candidate as Pacquiao’s next foe, though, is World Boxing Council lightweight champ David Diaz. “I would like to go up to the 135-lb division and challenge David Diaz for his WBC title,” Pacquiao told Filipino reporters after a Mass was said Monday inside his suite on the 61st floor of The Hotel at the Mandalay Bay. “Then I could go down anytime to 130-pounds to fight anybody,” he added, opening the doors to a possible rematch with WBC super featherweight king Juan Manuel Marquez. It is the fight against Diaz, though, that promises a hefty payday for the Pacman. Former Pacquiao manager Shelley Finkel said -- after the Filipino won his match against Erik Morales in November last year -- that hurdling Barrera would serve as the Pacman’s ticket to multimillion fight deals. He also said Pacquiao could be eligible for $5 million paydays. The other fighters who want to be Pacquiao’s next foe include WBA superfeatherweight champ Edwin Valero, WBO superfeatherweight king Joan Guzman, WBA lightweight champ Juan Diaz, WBO lightweight king Michael Katsidis, and even WBA featherweight champ Chris John of Indonesia. pacman Quote Link to comment
jerzz Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 It is the fight against Diaz, though, that promises a hefty payday for the Pacman. I agree magandang laban david diaz vs manny pacquiao lightweight championship panoorin nyo sa youtube yung morales - diaz ==>>non stop na bakbakan Quote Link to comment
edc Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 it's actually the other way around... si Marquez ang umiiwas kay Pacman. matagal na pinipilit ang rematch nila, ang daming dahilan ni Marquez para di nya kalabanin si Manny. gaya din sya ni Barrera noon. sabi nya pag nanalo si Manny kay Morales kakalabanin nya si Pacquiao, nung nanalo na si Pacquiao, ibang Pacquiao dawe ang hinahamon nya, si Bobby Pacquiao daw ang sinasabi nya. pero wala din napilitan na sya labanan si Manny para bago sya mag-retire madami syang pera. Sa mga interview ni Manny makikita mo dun sa sinsasabi nya parang hindi sya excited makalaban si Juan Manuel. Pero pag kay Barrera and Morales gusto nya talaga makalaban. Quote Link to comment
hardtohandle Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 (edited) it's actually the other way around... si Marquez ang umiiwas kay Pacman. matagal na pinipilit ang rematch nila, ang daming dahilan ni Marquez para di nya kalabanin si Manny. gaya din sya ni Barrera noon. sabi nya pag nanalo si Manny kay Morales kakalabanin nya si Pacquiao, nung nanalo na si Pacquiao, ibang Pacquiao dawe ang hinahamon nya, si Bobby Pacquiao daw ang sinasabi nya. pero wala din napilitan na sya labanan si Manny para bago sya mag-retire madami syang pera. Kung hindi umiiwas si Pacman kay JMM, dapat noon pa nila pinagpilitan yung rematch nila, dapat nung nanalo si JMM kay Barrera, yung kampo ni Pacman yun na ang hinabol at hindi yung laban with Barrera na wala namang title on the line, ang dinadahilan pa nila hindi megabuck fight ang laban kontra JMM kahit may hawak na korona ito (ibig ba sabihin lumalaban na lang si Pacquiao dahil sa megabuck windfall?). The thing is, takot talaga si Pacman na makalaban si JMM, dahil alam nya na kahit di man siya matalo dito, siguradong mahihirapan sya at mae-expose ang weakness nya... Magaling si Pacquiao kung katulad nyang slugger ang makakalaban nya, pero kung katulad ni JMM na master tactician, siguradong may paglalagyan na naman siya dun, at siguradong di na nya masisisi yung medyas na gagamitin dahil burlington na gamit nya eh... Alam ni Freddie Roach yun. Edited October 10, 2007 by hardtohandle Quote Link to comment
bret_hart Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 Sa mga interview ni Manny makikita mo dun sa sinsasabi nya parang hindi sya excited makalaban si Juan Manuel. Pero pag kay Barrera and Morales gusto nya talaga makalaban. money! yan ang dahilan! almost all set na ang laban nila pero humirit kampo ni Marquez na ang gusto nila ang bayaran is 70%-30% ang bayad. 70% kay Marquez at 30% kay Barrera! hello!!! sino ba pinapanood ng tao? si Marquez ba o si Pacman. tignan mo turn-out ng laban ni Barrera at Marquez, may nanood pero mostly kaya sila nanood ay dahil kay Barrera and not because of Marquez. Quote Link to comment
skitz Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 Manny plans to retire in about two years and plans to fight around 3 fights a year. So that leaves around 6 fights left in his career. The next few fights should HAUL IN the big bucks that his illustrious career deserve. Manny is the "paycheck fighter" of the moment. Has everyone forgotten? He does not even hold a world title belt! Such is the legend that Manny has made. He is Mike Tyson -- but classier, and deserving of the respect he gets! Quote Link to comment
Sir Galahad® Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 As far as I know kaya hindi natuloy yung Pacquiao Marquez II is because of money.... I think that time the purse manny will receive on that fight is $1M while JMM gets $750,000 (Siyempre ayaw ng Camp ni Marquez yun)... so it got scrapped These boxers are professionals... they are more in it for the money than the belt Quote Link to comment
amante Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 meron akong napanood na TV interview kay Pacman the day after the fight...tinanong nung pinoy reporter about the possibility of a Marquez fight...he answered jokingly..."if the price is right..." instead of being offended, i actually admired pacquiao even more when he said that...he recognizes himself as human...na meron ding needs and desires (just like the rest of us) with that one line...he said it all.kaya kayong mga gagong politiko kayo...tantanan nyo na si manny! he is not the shining beacon of hope you are trying to push down our throats...he is but a simple man with a big heart. SO LET HIM BE! Quote Link to comment
darksoulriver Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 Recent News Pacman will not go to Manila for Hero's Welcome rather accepts invitation from Former Mayor Lito Atienza of DENR. Sports & Politics $uck$ Quote Link to comment
digitalsober Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 These boxers are professionals... they are more in it for the money than the belt exactly! if your winning.. who needs a belt anyways? malaking sacrifice sa boxer ang lumaban, pero trabaho nila yun. so right din nila to choose when and who to fight IF the price is right. Recent News Pacman will not go to Manila for Hero's Welcome rather accepts invitation from Former Mayor Lito Atienza of DENR.Sports & Politics $uck$haha! tablado ba? eh obvious namang maka atienza si manny. Quote Link to comment
bret_hart Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 Recent News Pacman will not go to Manila for Hero's Welcome rather accepts invitation from Former Mayor Lito Atienza of DENR. Sports & Politics $uck$ ipasara ba naman ni Lim yung mga stalls ni Manny sa Baywalk talagang di nya sisiputin si Lim! :thumbsupsmiley: Quote Link to comment
skitz Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 Again, I am a BIG PACMAN fan... but for crissakes, enough of this over-the-top mad adulation!!! Kada laban na lang ba kailangan meron motorcade yung tao? WTF?! Tsaka eto na naman tayo, sobra na naman TV coverage, kaya hayun, pati ermats ni Pacman naging drama queen na rin. Susmaryosep naman... medyo baryotic pa rin mentallity talaga ng Pinoy 'no? Again, I LOVE PACMAN. Pero putsa, hindi mo ako mapa-pa-bilad sa araw para hintayin ang motorcade niya. Quote Link to comment
dragonei Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 Again, I am a BIG PACMAN fan... but for crissakes, enough of this over-the-top mad adulation!!! Kada laban na lang ba kailangan meron motorcade yung tao? WTF?! Tsaka eto na naman tayo, sobra na naman TV coverage, kaya hayun, pati ermats ni Pacman naging drama queen na rin. Susmaryosep naman... medyo baryotic pa rin mentallity talaga ng Pinoy 'no? Again, I LOVE PACMAN. Pero putsa, hindi mo ako mapa-pa-bilad sa araw para hintayin ang motorcade niya. Well its called milking the cow to the bone. Sige nga without PACMAN, ano ipagmamalaki ng mga pilipino sa bansa nila? Baka nga hangang ngayon ngitngit pa rin sa galit ang publiko dahil sa ZTE na yan. Buti nga motorcade lang eh, si Sen. Bong Revilla Gusto pa gawing natinonal Holiday yung pag-uwi nya. At bakeeeeeeet naman? Lhat ngayon naguunahang makasipsip ng pawis sa bayag ni manny pacquiao lalo na sina chavit singson at atienza But don't worry as soon as Manny Hangs up his boxing gloves, the Atienzas will stop giving manny a blow-job. Fact is, even the people that cheer for him right now will probably even forget he ever existed when that happens. Lets just hope that manny will retire on top of his game, and he will move up to better things in life. Sana nga ituloy nya yung sinabi nyang gusto nya magtapos ng pagaaral. Quote Link to comment
skitz Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 But I'd still have give it to Pacman (diehard fan talaga... hehehe). Hindi naman siya ang may choice ng overexposure niya sa TV. And even with all this adulation, the guy is pretty LEVEL-HEADED... much more than one would expect, given his background. As for the Atienzas? Well... Manny shows "loyalty"... these f#&kers might not deserve it, but Manny is loyal nonetheless. I doubt Manny would ever become penniless. Dami na nyang investments. House in Paranaque, Gensan, and I believe in the US? At dahil sanay sa walang pera, ok lang kahit pa mag-retiro na ngayon yan... wag lang magluho... Saving grace ni Manny? His DEVOUT CATHOLICISM. Kaya nga't "he may stray from the straight and narrow path... but never too far". Quote Link to comment
floatingchords Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 Again, I am a BIG PACMAN fan... but for crissakes, enough of this over-the-top mad adulation!!! Kada laban na lang ba kailangan meron motorcade yung tao? WTF?! Tsaka eto na naman tayo, sobra na naman TV coverage, kaya hayun, pati ermats ni Pacman naging drama queen na rin. Susmaryosep naman... medyo baryotic pa rin mentallity talaga ng Pinoy 'no? Again, I LOVE PACMAN. Pero putsa, hindi mo ako mapa-pa-bilad sa araw para hintayin ang motorcade niya. ikaw yun....you probably have a decent job...and you have other things to do in life..maybe you have cable Tv or access to the Internet...yun mga yun kasi wala eh It just so happens that Manny gives em the reason to be happy...despite of... :thumbsupsmiley: Peace.... Quote Link to comment
skitz Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 NO problem Floatingchords. To each his own nga. Pero, di ba't aired on free tv rin naman ang fight? Medyo bothered lang talaga ako sa sobrang adulation. I covered sports (as a reporter for around 10 years). I've interviewed and rubbed elbows with Lydia de Vega, Elma Muros, Eric Buhain, Onyok Velasco, etc. Dude, tao lang ang mga ito. Tuma-t** rin pag umaga. Di ko talaga makita ang dahilan para sa sobrang hero worship. Again, I emphasize, I am a FAN. Quote Link to comment
edc Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 Kasi napapansin ko kay Pacman pag dating kay Marquez eh "if the price is right na" Di ba dati laban kung laban si Manny? Bakit pag dating kay JMM eh naging business na? Syempre hindi nya aaminin na sa lahat ng boxingero nakalaban nya eh hirap sya kay Juan Manuel.... Quote Link to comment
dragonei Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 But I'd still have give it to Pacman (diehard fan talaga... hehehe). Hindi naman siya ang may choice ng overexposure niya sa TV. And even with all this adulation, the guy is pretty LEVEL-HEADED... much more than one would expect, given his background. As for the Atienzas? Well... Manny shows "loyalty"... these f#&kers might not deserve it, but Manny is loyal nonetheless. I doubt Manny would ever become penniless. Dami na nyang investments. House in Paranaque, Gensan, and I believe in the US? At dahil sanay sa walang pera, ok lang kahit pa mag-retiro na ngayon yan... wag lang magluho... Saving grace ni Manny? His DEVOUT CATHOLICISM. Kaya nga't "he may stray from the straight and narrow path... but never too far". Well huwag ka din masyado pakakasiguro. Alalahanin mo there was Luisito espinosa, Mike Tyson, and Leon Spinks. Kung mga tycoons nga nalulugi at bumabagsak din, si Manny pa kaya na boksing lang ang alam gawin? It may not even be a matter of fact, but a matter of time. But Im giiving the pacman, the benefit of the doubt here. Sana nga marunongsiyang mag-alaga ng pera nya. But the thing he should be worried about are the company he keeps. It happened to Julius Ceasar, It happened to Joseph Estrada, and it can happen to him. Remember his lawyers f#&ked him in that top rank golden boy deal? Pano mas swapang yung abugado kesa sa cliente. Remember also malacañang f#&ked him also with that refund on his campaign expenses. Not to mention his campaign managers stole money from him. That is not accounting his life style of gambling pa. Kaya nga sana nga makinig si Manny sa tamang payo at hindi malason ang isip nya kung kani kanino lang. Because if not it will be his end, all because he gave "loyalty" to the wrong people. I do hope ituloy nya yung plano nya mag-aral. Education will definetly do him good. Personally, I dont want him to end up as a washed up prized fighter Quote Link to comment
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