The Mazda Lovers Thread

[Flash Sentry]

Ayos ah, laban ng Honda vs Mazda, hanggang dito dala pa.

[sssneaky]

im into looks and engine din. eh ang ganda ng mazda 3 pero sabi ko waiting game muna.

 

kaya ko gusto miata ksi sa lahat ng mazda dito sa pinas sya lng ang may class of its own. yung mga ibang mazda bulok na.

 

pag mazda ang name ng car medyo kakaduda. exception lang yung miata.

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brod, e eto ang pinost mo e. una nilahat mo, ibang mazda mazda bulok na sabi mo except miata. tapos sabi mo pag mazda ang name ng car kakaduda. kaya tinanong kita, tapos sasabihin mo yung rx-7 "in a class of its own," e ano ba brand non??? di ba MAZDA?!?!?

 

sarili mong posts kinokontra mo kaya di kapanipaniwala mga pinagsasabi mo. check mo pa mga ibang posts mo dito.

 

kung maganda experience namin sa mazda, e ano naman, why don't you just be happy for us? i know a lot of people with good experiences sa brand na to. check out protegetech's web site for some.

 

kung gusto mo marami makita pumunta ka sa mga parking area ng mga office at malls on busy days. ewan ko kung san ka nagpa-park o kung nagda-drive ka ba talaga. mas matagal ang time spent ng sasakyan sa parking kesa sa kalsada kasi private vehicles ito.

 

ang bottomline kasi e, lahat ng kotse may advantages at disadvantages. its up to the individual to choose what will suit him/her best. ang objective ng thread starter dito is to solicit information from those who have "experienced" driving a mazda3 for him/her to verify and help in deciding what to buy. kaya kami na naka-experience nagbibigay ng facts based from our experiences. but we are not trying to convince anyone na wag ka mag-mazda o wag ka mag-toyota, etc.

 

ako pinaka-bad experience ko sa kotse yung 89 galant ko dati dahil every week na lang may pinapagawa ako pero if someone wants to buy an 89 galant di ko sisiraan yung car sasabihin ko lang yung experience ko.

 

sasabihin ko lang na bulok talaga ang sasakyan kung meron itong factory defect at LAHAT ng bumili nito pare-pareho ang naging experience, sa simula pa lang major problems na parang dapat na i-garahe at wala nang remedyo.

 

mahirap mag-judge sa wear and tear ng sasakyan kasi iba iba ang driving style ng mga tao pati driving conditions kung san tumatakbo ang sasakyan and most importantly pag tinipid mo ang scheduled maintenance ng sasakyan di talaga tatagal. ganon lang kasimple yon.

[acidboy]

bawal gawing taxi ang honda sa pilipinas, fyi.

 

at idadagdag ko lang wala akong mazda, at wala akong plano bumili ng mazda. pero masasabi ko naman na above-average ang alam ko sa kotse dahil nasa related industry ang trabaho ko, at sa personal experience ko na rin. in any case, respect ko na rin ang opinion mo, edc. malamang masbata ka rin naman sa akin kaya di rin tayo masyadong nagkakaintindihan. in any case, dagdag ko rin ito:

 

edmunds.com consumers' most wanted 2005:

 

"Sedan Under $15,000: Mazda 3

 

 

Can you say "déjà vu"? Rankings in this category looked a lot like they did last year, with the peppy Mazda 3 (41 percent) outgunning all challengers for another decisive win. The Honda Civic once again took the silver, with 19 percent of the votes, and the Toyota Corolla staged a repeat third-place performance, with 10 percent of the tally. Next up were the Chevy Cobalt (9 percent), the Ford Focus (6 percent), the Scion xA (4 percent), the Hyundai Elantra (3 percent) and the Mitsubishi Lancer (2 percent)."

 

edmunds.com editors' most wanted 2006

 

"Sedan Under $15,000: Mazda 3

 

 

Mazda proves you don't need big bucks to score a sedan with performance, practicality and style."

 

pero kung ang argument ay baka iba ang version ng u.s. sa r.p. version (na hindi rin totoo sa present age of globalization at iso certifications) ito naman ang review sa automobile association of singapore na kinukuha ang mz3 nila sa pinas:

 

Mazda 3

The new Mazda 3 is more of a driver's car than the 323 it replaces. A cool new interior helps raise the bar.

 

What's New?

The new 3 is the third, and probably most significant product that marks the complete integration of Mazda into the Ford family. In 1979 Ford acquired a 25 percent stake in Mazda, and later increased this percentage to 33.4 percent, and historically Ford has used Mazda to build cars for them, such as the Laser, for the Asia Pacific markets. The Ford Laser was based on the Mazda 323, which the new 3 replaces.

 

This time round, it is the Mazda that is based on the Ford - in this case the next generation Focus. This chassis is also used in the forthcoming small Volvo, the S40. By jointly developing this chassis together, Ford, Mazda and Volvo have all benefit of this consolidation of resources, the economies of scale and the opportunity to access each others knowledge and expertise.

 

In terms of styling, the 3 sedan looks like scaled-down Mazda 6, which is no bad thing. The sedan's proportions are particularly well-balanced and handsome. The new 3 is also available as a 5-door hatchback but Mazda has not revived the Astina name for this model.

 

The 1.6-litre engine is new, and it benefits from having variable valve timing. It works well with the extremely smooth 4-speed automatic transmission.

 

How It Performs

In a market segment in which most Japanese cars feel light and engineered to be efficiently economical, it is quite refreshing that the 3 has a nice full-bodied and substantial persona. The steering wheel is thick, and it is well weighted. The chassis feels sure-footed and capable of taking on a larger, more powerful 2.0-litre engine. It is quite clear that driver's satisfaction is high on the list of expectations that Mazda had set to achieve for the 3.

 

It is no surprise then that the 3 does in fact weigh-in at 1200kg, which is slightly heavier than its rivals. While the 107bhp engine feels up to the task of propelling the car, it does tend to feel slightly strained when pushed too hard. Most of the time however, it remains reassuringly hushed.

 

This sense of well-being continues with throughout the 3's interior - the hi-fi and ventilation controls all work with a slick, well-oiled precision of a much more expensive car, and all the equipment looks and feels factory-fitted and fully integrated. The satellite controls for the radio on the steering and the classy red instrument lighting complete the high-quality look and feel of the interior.

 

How It Stacks Up

In the strict hierarchy that permeates most Asian cultures, everyone knows where they stand in relation to each other. The same is true for cars, and the Mazda 323 has never been considered worthy of being on the top echelon alongside the Toyota Corolla and Honda Civic. Things are different with the new 3. It seems to have the confidence and resolve to break ranks to move closer to the top. Perhaps this comes from its mixed European pedigree and sharing its platform with the next Ford Focus and the new Volvo S40. For drivers that have never considered a Mazda before, a test-drive in the 3 will be a revelation indeed.

Technical Specifications

 

 

MODEL

Mazda 3

 

ENGINE

Engine: 1598cc 16-valve in-line four with VVT

Max Power: 107bhp at 6000rpm

Max Torque: 146Nm at 4000rpm

 

TRANSMISSION

4-speed automatic with manual override

 

TOP SPEED

170 kmh

 

0-100km/h

12.7s

 

at sa maniwala ka o hinde, ganyan din kaganda ang reviews ng mazda 6, mazda 5, mazda 2, at mx-5.

[edc]

brod, e eto ang pinost mo e. una nilahat mo, ibang mazda mazda bulok na sabi mo except miata. tapos sabi mo pag mazda ang name ng car kakaduda. kaya tinanong kita, tapos sasabihin mo yung rx-7 "in a class of its own," e ano ba brand non??? di ba MAZDA?!?!?

 

sarili mong posts kinokontra mo kaya di kapanipaniwala mga pinagsasabi mo. check mo pa mga ibang posts mo dito.

 

kung maganda experience namin sa mazda, e ano naman, why don't you just be happy for us? i know a lot of people with good experiences sa brand na to. check out protegetech's web site for some.

 

kung gusto mo marami makita pumunta ka sa mga parking area ng mga office at malls on busy days. ewan ko kung san ka nagpa-park o kung nagda-drive ka ba talaga. mas matagal ang time spent ng sasakyan sa parking kesa sa kalsada kasi private vehicles ito.

 

ang bottomline kasi e, lahat ng kotse may advantages at disadvantages. its up to the individual to choose what will suit him/her best. ang objective ng thread starter dito is to solicit information from those who have "experienced" driving a mazda3 for him/her to verify and help in deciding what to buy. kaya kami na naka-experience nagbibigay ng facts based from our experiences. but we are not trying to convince anyone na wag ka mag-mazda o wag ka mag-toyota, etc.

 

ako pinaka-bad experience ko sa kotse yung 89 galant ko dati dahil every week na lang may pinapagawa ako pero if someone wants to buy an 89 galant di ko sisiraan yung car sasabihin ko lang yung experience ko.

 

sasabihin ko lang na bulok talaga ang sasakyan kung meron itong factory defect at LAHAT ng bumili nito pare-pareho ang naging experience, sa simula pa lang major problems na parang dapat na i-garahe at wala nang remedyo.

 

mahirap mag-judge sa wear and tear ng sasakyan kasi iba iba ang driving style ng mga tao pati driving conditions kung san tumatakbo ang sasakyan and most importantly pag tinipid mo ang scheduled maintenance ng sasakyan di talaga tatagal. ganon lang kasimple yon.

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Uulitin ko sinabi ko. Mazda na dinala dto sa pinas hindi mazda na imported. yung dinala ng mazda dito. rx 7 hindi dinala dito.

[edc]

sino ba nagsabi na ang honda pde pantaxi? sbi ko mazda mga nkita ko ginawa taxi na.

 

as for mga review sa car. sa states ginawa yan at iba road conditon sa pinas pati climate na din.

 

pero bk nga maganda sa inyo mazda.

 

pero ang basis ko sa mga cars below 1million kailangan nakikita sa kalsada. yun din gusto ng mga car manufacturer. lalo na sa mga sedan. pag konti sa kalsada ano pa purpose nagbenta ka tpos below 1million lng.

Edited January 9, 2006 by edc

[Wyld]

I see we have the same situation here as we have had in other threads.

 

Just to remind y'all that posting does not have to be an argument all the time. There are ways to post w/o sounding as if you are picking a fight with everyone else on the thread.

 

YOU know who you are. <_<

[sssneaky]

Uulitin ko sinabi ko. Mazda na dinala dto sa pinas hindi mazda na imported. yung dinala ng mazda dito. rx 7 hindi dinala dito.

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whatever dude. basahin mo na lang yung history ng mga posts mo dito at yung chronological order. hirap kasi sayo nilalahat mo e. tapos mapapaso ka. respect other people's posts so you'll get respect as well. wag yung pag ayaw mo ng pinost parang gusto palabasin sinungaling yung nag-post.

[acidboy]

ang mazda 3 at ford focus ay dito sa pinas ginagawa. ine-export ito sa south east asia at karatig-pook.

 

ang honda hindi puwede pantaxi dahil bawal. tanungin mo sa honda phil yan.

 

kakatawa talaga si edc. kung sundin natin ang line of argument niya eh di dapat sarao na lang ang bilhin ko. ang dami nito sa daan, araw-araw ginagamit, at mataas ang resale value din niyan kasi mura lang ang retail price eh!

 

at laos na po ang argument ng iba ang weather at road condition ek-ek. lahat ng car companies dahil na rin mas-economical ay naglagay ng kanya-kanyang version ng g.o.a. system na inumpisahan ng toyota noon. at dahil halos lahat ng car assembly plants ay AT LEAST iso 9001 certified, at may sinusundang qc sa lahat ng components na pumapasok sa assembly line, at mga machineries at robotics na ginagamit ay standard na rin, hindi na nag-iiba ang quality ng mga specific model na kotse ngayon kahit kunuha mo ito sa manila, bangkok, beijing, detroit, stuttgart, johannesburg.... hindi ho parang assembly ng puj o bus ang mga planta ng toyota, ford/mazda at honda sa laguna. hehehehe

Edited January 10, 2006 by acidboy

[sssneaky]

ang mazda 3 at ford focus ay dito sa pinas ginagawa. ine-export ito sa south east asia at karatig-pook. 

 

ang honda hindi puwede pantaxi dahil bawal. tanungin mo sa honda phil yan.

 

kakatawa talaga si edc.  kung sundin natin ang line of argument niya eh di dapat sarao na lang ang bilhin ko. ang dami nito sa daan, araw-araw ginagamit, at mataas ang resale value din niyan kasi mura lang ang retail price eh!

 

at laos na po ang argument ng iba ang weather at road condition ek-ek. lahat ng car companies dahil na rin mas-economical ay naglagay ng kanya-kanyang version ng g.o.a. system na inumpisahan ng toyota noon. at dahil halos lahat ng car assembly plants ay AT LEAST iso 9001 certified, at may sinusundang qc sa lahat ng components na pumapasok sa assembly line, at mga machineries at robotics na ginagamit ay standard na rin, hindi na nag-iiba ang quality ng mga specific model na kotse ngayon kahit kunuha mo ito sa manila, bangkok, beijing, detroit, stuttgart, johannesburg....  hindi ho parang assembly ng puj o bus ang mga planta ng toyota, ford/mazda at honda sa laguna. hehehehe

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natawa ako dito ah. go go go sarao hataw! pinakamarami sa kalsada. :boo:

 

edc research mo yang ISO (International Organization for Standardization) para maintindihan mo yung sinasabi ni acidboy.

[edc]

ang mazda 3 at ford focus ay dito sa pinas ginagawa. ine-export ito sa south east asia at karatig-pook. 

 

ang honda hindi puwede pantaxi dahil bawal. tanungin mo sa honda phil yan.

 

kakatawa talaga si edc.  kung sundin natin ang line of argument niya eh di dapat sarao na lang ang bilhin ko. ang dami nito sa daan, araw-araw ginagamit, at mataas ang resale value din niyan kasi mura lang ang retail price eh!

 

at laos na po ang argument ng iba ang weather at road condition ek-ek. lahat ng car companies dahil na rin mas-economical ay naglagay ng kanya-kanyang version ng g.o.a. system na inumpisahan ng toyota noon. at dahil halos lahat ng car assembly plants ay AT LEAST iso 9001 certified, at may sinusundang qc sa lahat ng components na pumapasok sa assembly line, at mga machineries at robotics na ginagamit ay standard na rin, hindi na nag-iiba ang quality ng mga specific model na kotse ngayon kahit kunuha mo ito sa manila, bangkok, beijing, detroit, stuttgart, johannesburg....  hindi ho parang assembly ng puj o bus ang mga planta ng toyota, ford/mazda at honda sa laguna. hehehehe

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hay naku sabi ko na nga ba eh ibabanat yung mga jeep. pinaguusapan mga sedan hindi jeep or tricycle.

 

bumanat pa ng iso certification. ama computer college iso certified din!!!!! bago magmalaki sa mazda eh wala pa napapatunayan dito sa pinas yung mga dinala car dito. mga latak dinala. 323, astina, 626, mpv. ang sinasabi ko yung dinala ng mazda dito.

 

sbi nyo hindi basehan kung ano nakikita sa kalsada. eh magkano ba mga presyo nyan? bmw or benz ba presyo nyan para konti lng makita sa kalsada? hindi luxury car dinadala ng mazda dito. latak na nga bumagsak pa.

 

yung mazda 3 nyo bago pa yan. verdict nyo malupit agad. watch na lng kayo kung ano mangyayari jan. hirap nyan malatak pa yan pag tagal magsisi kayo. mahirap ba magantay ng 2 years bago magsalita regarding mazda 3?

 

nasan na pala yung mga 323, 626, mpv, astina? tinapon na ba sa mindanao? makano pala second hand nyan now?

 

kung yung mga dinala dito ng mazda before ok ang nangyari wala sana problema. importante ang impression lalo na sa car, lalo na bago pa lng sa pinas dati yan tapos bumagsak pa.

 

and hindi lahat nag papa iso certification dto sa pinas panalo. remember nasa pilipinas ka kahit anong iso certification nyan bsta nasa pinas ka 50/50!

[thirteen]

nasan na pala yung mga 323, 626, mpv, astina? tinapon na ba sa mindanao? makano pala second hand nyan now?

 

kung yung mga dinala dito ng mazda before ok ang nangyari wala sana problema. importante ang impression lalo na sa car, lalo na bago pa lng sa pinas dati yan tapos bumagsak pa.

 

and hindi lahat nag papa iso certification dto sa pinas panalo. remember nasa pilipinas ka kahit anong iso certification nyan bsta nasa pinas ka 50/50!

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We used to have a Familia before, and the main reason we sold it was because it took too long to get spare parts. Why? Because the spare parts had to be ordered from Japan! That's probably why, as edc claims, some Mazdas aren't on the roads now.

 

For the lack of local parts, I blame it on the downfall of Francisco Motors. All cars will need repair sooner or later, and if the parts are hard to get, people will have to resort to "surplus" items; thus lowering the reliability and quality of the car.

 

Oh, and our Familia was sideswiped by a truck, thus the need for new suspension arms and other parts that could not be sourced locally because Francisco Motors/Mazda no longer existed.

 

The current Mazda is owned and backed by Ford and Mazda themselves; not just a local assembler and dealer. I would wager that they have deeper pockets and better business sense to keep the current Mazda brand alive for quite some time.

 

BTW, is Mazda offering the RX-8? I've seen a few roaming the streets and was curious if Mazda is selling it themselves, or if they were brought in through 3rd party importers.

[edc]

Ayos ah, laban ng Honda vs Mazda, hanggang dito dala pa. 

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san thread naglaban honda and mazda? hindi ko pa nababasa yan ha. mismatch yun. luging lugi mazda dun.

 

Dapat nilaban na lng sa mazda yung hyundai para match. pag honda ksi ibang level na yan.

[Some Dude]

Sobrang off-topic na tanong, pero bakit nga pinagbawalan ng Honda Philippines na gawing taxi mga sasakyan nila?

[complicated8]

it gives value to Honda. Imagine kahit gaano kaganda car mo mayron pa rin na taxi equivalent.

 

Kaya din siguro mataas ang re-sale value ng honda because hindi puwede taxi.

 

I still have a familia 323. Working fine till now. Alagang kasa nga lang. Lakas lang sa gas. Well kaya rin naman bumaba resale value ng Mazda coz umalis ang Mazda sa Phils. Ngayon lang bumalik but yeah you won't know the re-sale value.

 

maganda to know wala pa ring taxi na mazda 3 di ba? This was what I wanted to buy now but am concerned with the gas consumption and tumaas na rin price. sa looks/design - walang katapat at least for now. I've yet to see the new Civic

[sssneaky]

I see we have the same situation here as we have had in other threads.

 

Just to remind y'all that posting does not have to be an argument all the time. There are ways to post w/o sounding as if you are picking a fight with everyone else on the thread.

 

YOU know who you are.  

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OT. now, i understand what you're saying. just right now, in the marketplace, i came across a thread of someone selling shoes. ganon din mga replies, may info na sa thread tinatanong pa uli, blah blah blah. di ko alam kung may ibang thread pa na ganyan din. tsk tsk tsk. mahirap makipag-usap sa nakatira sa mental. this guy needs to get some air. sayang na nga oras ko sinasayang pa lalo.

 

i think a reasonable person can read through this thread and extract useful information based on facts and help them in their judgment.

 

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AMA is ISO certified? That's a surprise. I don't know kasi e, which certification 9001, 14001, 18001?