Edmund Dantes

Eto wishful thinking ko.

Sana after the fight, kahit sino pa manalo, sana Mayweather will be coming to the Philippines to do a commercial with Manny Pacquiao. Sobrang regalo yun sa Filipino fans. And why not? Morales and Pacquiao were bitter rivals but after the trilogy, Morales won the hearts of Filipino fans. Marquez naman kahit papano may fans pa din dito. Sana talaga gumawa silang dalawa ng San Mig commerical o kahit ano, basta kaya talent fee ni Mayweather.

Ako I believe if Mayweather beats Pacquiao, hindi nya naman masyado tatapakan pride nya. In fact, him being a consistent gracious winner will even praise him and the Filipino fans supporting him. Tsaka kahit naman sa mga bitter rivalries sa boxing madami naging magkaibigan pagkatapos. Ali and Foreman, Leonard tsaka si Duran. and of course Tyson and Holyfield who did a lot of things together after the fight.

Sakin, sino man manalo, both men deserve credit for what they did to the sport. Let us not hate so much on Floyd just because he always likes to be the bad guy. Kung tutuusin, tama naman sya, he is a very dedicated athlete. Wala naman syang ibang bisyo talaga other than sports betting

Wait! Again did I miss a big news again? Manny will surely retire after this fight?

Don't know how to react to this, though just a bit surprised... wait actually I think it's better for him to Retire na nga!

 

The last Fight with Marquez, I myself give full Credit to Marquez, it was a well won fight, he obviously prepared for the fight, and as I said KOs are the surest way to win a fight, no score cards, decisions, etc.

We have to admit it, bulagta talaga si Manny, he even convulsed a bit, which was scary!

 

I saw the youtube compilation about Floyd posted by Edmund, grabe talaga yung lokong yun sa bilis nang ilag at counterpunch. He looks like a rattlesnake when he strikes, he knows when he can start countering. This is 1000% what Manny has to watch out for, because he really knows how to start hitting back, after his opponent stop to recover after a combination. I also saw that hitting his deltoids as I suggested won't work, if you punch him on the shoulder, he'd counter punch you in the face.

 

So paano?

Manny will probably do what he does, if he decides to counter punch with Floyd, we'd be watching a dancing competition not boxing (and we know Manny won't do this, he'd be scared people will start booing).

 

Wala as a non expert, I'd say, he should do what he does, but make sure he can defend himself from strong counters, and keep going, so he should not lose steam. Of course you use up a lot more energy doing 3 to 4 combinations, compared to just dodging those combinations, so he should really be on top of his game physically.

 

Edmund, noted about your points, as I said I understand what you are saying, but even though you say you don't want yourself to be called "Pinoy" there are lots of "Pinoys" who are not like the "Pinoytards" that you describe, maybe "Pactards" na nga lang siguro, (retarded Pacquiao fans)? Para at least smaller Generalization

 

Kakatawa nga, forget about personalities, who is Hero or Villain, just look at their fighting styles and their fight history, nakaka excite talaga!

Coming from a fellow non-expert.

RJJ would have neutralized Floyds elusive style. Like Floyd, he had catlike reflexes.. perhaps the best in the history of the sport. He was so accurate and quick, he never needed to jab to establish his powershots. It will find the target like his fists were laser guided heat-seaking rockets. Floyd can shoulder roll and duck all he wants, but he will catch him. RJJs main defense is his reflexes too, he don't need to cover up of slip the punches, he can dodge them quickly. With his long reach Floyd will have problems trying to counter him....

Now I know what smartasses will say, but RJJ was a light heavyweight. I know! but in terms of fighting style and anatomy, this would have been perfect for Floyd's defensive style. Unfortunately, Manny does not fight this way. First of all, he is a short guy and his reach isn't that long. He comes in, flurry, then turns. He leaves himself open for a counter and when he has to back up, he can't fight anymore. Its not athleticism that will make Pacquiao stand a chance. Rather its intelligent strategy and fighting.

Yes I understand not all Filipinos are "pinoytards". Ang mga tinutukoy ko naman yung mga walang pinagaralang masa na madali mauto ng kapamilya at kapuso sa proud to be pinoy na kalokohan na yan. Marami namang pilipino ang edukado at hindi bobo para itaya buong bansa nila sa laro ng boxing. Pero itong mga tinutukoy ko, kakapal ng mukha. Sila malakas sumigaw ng proud to be pinoy, at patriotic daw kuno, mga hindi naman nagbabayad ng buwis. I hope we have a way of shutting them up kasi nakakahiyang mageneralize na puros ganun ang Pilipino.

Yes polar opposites sina Floyd at Manny in terms of fighting style and personalities. Manny is the humble warrior who fights for the honor of his country kuno. Floyd is the flambouyant and arrogant douchebag who fights for money and does not even care if the fans love him or not. Manny is the best offensive fighter in the game right now. Floyd is the best defensive fighter in this generation... maybe of all time even.

Like it or not, personalities really sell the sports. Ali, Frazier, Liston, Duran, Leonard, Hagler, Tyson, RJJ, Hopkins, they are all personalities who made the sport popular not just beacuse of their skill but on the colorful characters they portrayed. Klistchko as good as a fighter he is could not revive the heavyweight division. The thing is, the bros have very intersting personalities, pero wala na yung magagaling na kontrabida sa division. Sure Shannon Briggs keeps trolling him, but that guy has no talent.

 

Nah, this is a one time thing. It won't be enough to bring boxing back. This is the only fight big enough to bring casual fans to the sport.

 

After this, there's nothing. Both guys are nearing the end of their careers, if PBF wins I think he only fights 3 more times to get to fifty and beat Rocky Marciano's unbeaten streak. Manny retires after this, that much is clear.

 

The best active fighters right now can't bring in the casual fans. The heavyweight champion, who has been undefeated in 12 years, can't bring the numbers. The deadliest and most exciting fighter in the sport today, GGG, also can't bring in the numbers (plus no one wants to fight him). No one's left after Mayweather and Pacquiao.

 

Boxing has ruined boxing. Gone are the days when the best fighters faced each other multiple times. Ali fought Frazier, and Foreman. Duran, Leonard, and Hagler fought each other multiple times.

 

we have none of that now.

Or..... maybe we are just too focused right now on Pacquiao Mayweather

Ali quarelled with his critics a lot and he was credited for the famous quote "while I am up here fighting you are down there shouting!". Ali was sometimes the hero and the villan depending on who he was fighting. People hated him so much theyd boo him when he entered the ring. I don't see that happening with Floyd. As for SRR? Man Floyd is actually a choirboy compared to SRR. Outside the ring SRR was a pompous narcissitic primadonna who would nail his wife with combinations. He breached fight contracts all the time. He'd sign the contract, then demand for more pay, sometimes the only way you can be sure that the fight would indeed happen is when you actually see him jump on that ring.

Manny is not the class triple A human being the media portrays him to be. He has his own brand of arrogance. Besides, doesnt this guy cheat on his wife all the time? He is a mere poster boy. But who cares right? We do not know these people in person, and at the end of the day its skills that determine the outcome of the fight.

To me, its enough that Floyd has that gracious winner attitude and so as long as he is not fouled, he tries to fight clean.

Can't wait for the 24/7 or all access episodes. Matinding drama ito sigurado. I wonder what antics Floyd Mayweather will cook up to be a better villain. Its a role he does so well. Huwag lang sana maging sobrang OA kagaya yung ginawa nya kay Ortiz na talagang focus nya lang ay mainis sa kanya lalo ang tao para panoorin laban. Sabagay di naman kasi sikat si Ortiz.

But more than the drama between the two fighters, may drama din sigurado among the cornermen. Floyd Mayweather Sr. is back as his sons headcoach. Wala si uncle Roger. Floyd Sr. is really a pompous assh*le. He is the typical stage-daddy. He was a failure as a figher and now he is trying to make his own dreams be realized through his son. That would not have been a problem had he not stolen too much camera attention from his fighters the way he did with Ricky Hatton and Oscar Dela Hoya. I wonder why Floyd chose him, when Roger is the better trainer.

Floyd Sr. has a score to settle with Freddie. Freddie embarrassed him when Hatton got KOed badly. So much he had to walk out of Ricky's Corner. Plus Alex Ariza is now in Floyd's corner. Both of them hold a grudge against Freddie

Id say the Rocky series.

See, the sequels that followed (II-V) were not as good as the first, but once you see the final installment, it all comes full circle.

Si Rocky kasi, talunan sya. Brusko at di naman kagwapuhan. Bobo pero malakas. Hindi rin sya elite athlete. Pero the character is all about determination, perseverance and not giving up. His life is a story of starting from nothing, then being something, then being nothing again, then getting back up and being something again. Kasi thats how it works in real life, no matter what success you achieve, something will knock you down again. So you gotta keep getting back up and keep fighting. If you do not give up, you can not lose

1. Grey hair. Pluck out one 10 more will grow in its place

2. Wala ka ng energy magpuyat sa mga gimikan

3. Its becoming more and more difficult to not get a belly. Habang tumatanda mas disiplinado dapat sa pagkain at dapat lagi ng may exercise kung ayaw ng bilbil na yan

I really feel insulted whenever morons would say na "maswerte ka lang kasi kaya...." Kaya ka nakatapos nyan, kaya may pera ka, kaya nakapagabroad ka. Nakapagabroad ka lang yumabang ka na.

Geez, these idiots do not even understand na I had to work my ass off to enjoy whatever I have. Habang sila nasa bahay na at nanonood na ng telenobela, nasa trabaho pa ako nagtyatyaga para makuha mga opportunities na gusto ko. Kung maswerte ako sana di na lang ako nagpuyat ng maraming taon. Sana di ko na lang tiniis yung ilang pasko na malayo naman ako sa pamilya ko.

Tungkol naman sa mga babaeng ginagamit ang kahinaan ng mga lalake para perahan sila, well the truth is, hindi ko sinisisi babae dito. Kasi she is just making the most out of the business oportunity she has to her own advantage. I mean ikaw ba na naman ipuhunan mo na nga katawan at puri mo, hindi mo pa ba sasamantalahin pagkakataon? If making the client/guest believe that she is somehow attracted to him, or that she has i romantic feelings for would be a good idea to make him come back for her..... then brother its just fair game. I mean come on! sinong used car salesman ba ang hindi magaling na bolero. Kahit nga yung mga gusto ka bentahan ng condo sa mall, pwede ka bolahin na crush ka nila sus. Higit sa lahat, nagpapabola din kasi naman talaga ang lalake.

Ok lang bolahin ang lalake o mainobrain emosyon ng lalake ng konti (konti lang naman hehehe) para sa pera as long as

1. hindi naman garapalang swindling yung gagawin nung babae na tipong may legal implications na. Kung para balikbalikan, at para dagdagan tip then sige lang.

2. huwag papasok sa isang seryosong romantic na relationship, kasi ibang usapan na yun.

ED, you are not the one I am referring to.

Oh sorry bro! accept my apologies then.

Uhm.... I did say I am hardly perfect and sometimes my reading comprehension skills fail me lol

I'm not exactly sure if nakarecover na yung bata. His posts reek of bitterness.

What can I say? I am a human being, I am not a superhero, and I am hardly perfect. Do I still have scar tissues? Of course, I think normal naman yun. The only difference is, I do not have a reason to be in denial, kasi yun yung mas mahirap. And I can hug the cactus. Embrace my own pain. Most of all, alam ko naman na maayos ang buhay ko ngayon and thats all I really got to show for. I don't have to look over my shoulder all the time and so far I have been reaching my personal goals.

Ako naman, tanggap ko na some will like what I have to say, and others wont so they will attempt to throw everything at me including the kitchen sink. Im used to it. I don't know about you guys but I have been around MTC longer than you think. So Im kinda used to it.

As for my stand on the issue, the truth is, its not really so much about me na mababa ang tingin sa mga babaeng ito. Not even so much about the reality that there are hustlers out there looking for emotionally vulnerable men. My premise is based on the simple common sense na, bat mo naman syosyotain ang isang babae na hinahawakan ng ibang lalake. Hindi ba nakakainsecure yun? Sure I understand trabaho lang yun, but having this job I think requires you to not have any romantic relationship muna up until you give it up. Its really as simple as that.

Check this out! Pure defensive wizardry. Hirap talaga tamaan. Ang galing ng stance at reflexes. I know ang strategy ng team Pacquiao is to make Manny cut the ring. But I don't think this is gonna be enough. Any of you guys who think that Floyd can't handle volume punchers should check this out

Yan is ED pwede makatulong yan dun sa bata, sabe nya dati nag undergo sya sa matinding situation na to the point na kinailangan nya ng professional help, baka pwede nya I refer yun bata na nawasak dun sa tumulong sa kanya, limited kasi ang mtc baka instead na maka tulong lalo pa makasama

Lets clear the misconception. Hindi naman lahat ng nagpapakonsulta sa expert eh "matindi" na nga situation. Sometimes its wise to seek an expert advice on your issues. I mean if you have legal issues no matter how trivial it may seem, its sometimes good to consult a lawyer. Kesa naman pumirma ka na lang ng kung ano ano sumabit ka pa. The same thing when it comes to your behavioral health. One thing we should never do is give a stigma to the person who is asking for help na sobrang "tindi" na nga pinagdadaanan nya na aabot pa "to the point" na kokunsulta sa experto.

But tama ka, sometimes you are really at risk when you listen to the wrong advice. Kaya nga, hindi lagi helpful ang self-diagnosis at peptalk ng mga malalapit sayo. Kasi you (or the people around you) end up saying things to please yourself. Kung baga yung gusto mo lang marinig.

Ewan ko ba kung bakit kasi sa Pinas, pag sinabi mong gusto mo kumausap ng psychologist automatic buang na ang tingin sayo. Kaya tuloy walang AA chapter satin kung saan dami dami me kelngan dyan eh.

 

The most interesting part for me about this fight, is exactly what you guys were saying.... It's a Hero vs. Villain fight, just because Floyd likes to act like the bad guy, and we all know that our country loves this stuff.

 

If Manny (the Hero) wins! All is good!

But if Floyd (the Villain) loses.... Paano na yun?

Wake up call?

That the Hero does not always win?

So sad, but it's a BIG possibility!

 

Pinoy Floyd Fans will probably also admit, if Manny Loses, they will also probably feel bad for Manny.

Now as for this issue.

If Manny wins, eh di cinderella story ito. Ang lalabas, most people counted him out dahil natalo ni Marquez but he got back up and defeated a bigger opposition in Mayweather. Parang yung panalo ni Ali kay Foreman, lahat akala laos na si Ali. Natalo pa ni Frazier kasi. Tapos si Foreman naman tinalo si Frazier. So when Ali KOed him, it was a romantic victory.

Pero tama ka, reality is, the better competitor will always win even if he is the bad guy. If you remember Hopkins stomped on the Puerto Rican flag during a press tour and a lot of Puerto Ricans wanted Trinidad to KOTFO Hopkins. But Hopkins outclassed Trinidad and KOed him becoming undisputed middleweight Champ. It is what it is.

I did feel bad for Manny when Marquez turned his lights out. But that KO was good for the sport. Why? Because justice was served in that fight. Come on! Pacquiao was being booed after the third fight. Besides, panalo sya dapat dun sa pangalawa. Marquez focused for 6 months and delivered what he promised.

I do not understand why Marquez got so much hate from Pinoys lalo na from Chino Trinidad na para lang namang tanga kung mag comentate sa boxing. Kesyo nangapak daw ng paa, na ginawa rin naman ni Manny, o kaya nakasteroids naman. Marquez was a gentleman before and after the fight naman kung tutuusin.

Thing with Sugar Ray Leonard the first time I saw him fight, I liked him already, he is not "Angas".

 

Edmund, you always say that you are afraid that the "pinoytards" will start making noise again.

 

Actually there is nothing wrong about being behind a fellow Pinoy like Manny, and Rejoicing if/when he wins.

 

I do understand what you mean, that there are some people (not just Pinoys) who are bad/Ugly winners, taunting, bragging, etc. even though they really didn't do anything at all to help Manny win, well except root for him.

 

The problem is you sometimes Generalize, not all of us are like that, so don't generalize and don't get it to you, you said it yourself you will love it if Pacquiao wins.

 

Heck I'm sure that many Pinoy fans of Floyd, will actually be happy if Manny wins naman, or at least Happy for the Country. For sure Happy for the Sport as well.

 

The most interesting part for me about this fight, is exactly what you guys were saying.... It's a Hero vs. Villain fight, just because Floyd likes to act like the bad guy, and we all know that our country loves this stuff.

 

If Manny (the Hero) wins! All is good!

But if Floyd (the Villain) loses.... Paano na yun?

Wake up call?

That the Hero does not always win?

So sad, but it's a BIG possibility!

 

Pinoy Floyd Fans will probably also admit, if Manny Loses, they will also probably feel bad for Manny.

Ok, let me clarify. I am not generalizing at all. I specifically label them as "pinoytards" for a reason. In fact, para sakin there are Filipinos, and there are Pinoys. I do not like calling myself a "pinoy" kasi ano yun? Parang yung kakanin na binebenta sa kabilang kanto. Just as there are African Americans, and there are niggers which are people who proudly live up to every negative stereotype given to their ethnicity.

I also understand that sports fans should root for their own flag. All mexican fighters have the backing of their country. Roberto Duran was the Manny Pacquiao of Panama. And if Floyd wins, we will probably hear American Audiences chant U.S.A! U.S.A! U.S.A! But do they claim racial superiority because they won a boxing match? Do they treat their athletes like Gods? Do they claim they are the best in the world? No.

The problem with us is that our pride has bordered into arrogance and facism na. Daig pa natin yung mga white supremacist sa US kung magyabang tayo, eh kung titignan sumasabit lang naman tayo sa tagumpay ng iisa. The media is largely to blame for this. Satin mga nakapagaral at edukado, of course di naman natin kinakabit ang buong pagkapilipino natin sa laro ng boxing. Pero sa mga mahihirap, mangmang, at di nakapagaral, ang lumalabas sa TV ay tinatangap nila as gospel truth.

Sa mga students ko, I really taught them to ignore this proud to be pinoy nonsense na ito. I even encouraged them to address themselves as Filipinos and not pinoys. Na kapag nakapagabroad sila, huwag nila isasaksak sa utak nila na angat sila sa buong mundo. Kasi ang tamang paguugali is that, you carry your pride with class, dignity, and a little humility. Do not think you are supposed to be superior or inferior by virtue of skin color. Learn to respect the country/culture that will adapt you as you want them to respect yours. Show the positive values you have as a Filipino, but never gloat it.

And eto lemme rant lang. Naiinis ako sa mga hinayupak na ito (pinoytards), kasi ang hilig makigyera sa internet. Pag sabihan mo na huminahon sa pagyayabang ikaw pa sasabihan na huwag mo daw tawagin sarili mo na Pilipino. What an audacious cockroach! Samantalang sila nga itong wala naman iniaambag sa inang bayan. Ni hindi nga nagbabayad tax mga yan. Humalik lang sa pwit ni Pacquiao eh "patriotic" na daw.

Sa totoo lang, matagal ko ng sinasabi, hindi dayuhan ang kalaban natin eh. Kundi itong mga gunggung na ito sa totoo lang. SIla ang nagpapahiya sa bansa natin. Imbes sana ipakita natin na mararangal, edukado, at sibilisado tayong mga tao, ipinapagmalaki pa natin na utak squatter ang mga Pilipino..... but can I really blame them? They are ignorant zombies who follow what ABS-CBN dictates them to do.

If Floyd and Sugar Ray met in their primes, Sugar Ray would beat him hands down by decision, KO or TKO.

Sugar Ray Leonard you mean? Like I said, Sugar Ray Leonard is the offensive counterpart of Mayweather. Using footwork, mental taunting, and likes to frustrate opponents too before picking them apart in the later rounds. Him and Roy Jones Jr. have the style to beat Mayweather

As for Sugar Ray Robinson? Hmmmm hed take the fight on one week notice, starve himself for almost two days to make the weight, and beat the living sh!t out of Floyd. The reason why SRR is the greatest and the best boxer of all time was that he was actually the one who made boxing into the sweet science that it is today. Before his era, boxing was just human cockfighting. But in his era he popularized shadow boxing, footwork, dancing fights etc. He made boxing look like ballet.

So far, I haven't seen the Mr. Hyde side of Money. Maybe he thinks that the fight does not need hype anymore since it is the fight everyone wants to see.

Sa totoo lang, I get annoyed din when he puts on the villain mantle. Not because I believe he is the douchebag he wants to portray himself but because is sometimes trying waaaaaay too hard. Parang sobrang OA na, halatang gimmick na lang talaga ito and he just want people to hate him more.

But at the same time, he is one of the most gracious winners naman in the sport. He is always the first to approach the opponent and offer a hug after the final bell. Tsaka at least patas at malinis maglaro si Mayweather. Si Bernard Hopkins ang Pinakamarumi talaga maglaro.

After what happened in Miami, I would not classify Money as the villain. In fights past, most notably against Dela Hoya, Mayweather acted like an infantile jerk taunting Dela Hoya no end in the build up to their much-anticipated mano a mano.

Anybody who understands that hype is good for this business should understand that Floyd is simply being in "character". Like he said, when Dela Hoya fought Trinidad, Trinidad was the bad guy. When Trinidad fought Hopkins, Hopkins was the bad guy. So hell be the bad guy. The good thing this is that he can attract more people to watch him fight. Because now people are either gonna pay to see his boxing wizardry, or in the hopes that they will get to see him lose and be humbled.

The problem with our local media and the pinoytards is that they cant seem to separate the character from the fighter. Kung sabagay, ilang kontrabida na ba sa telenovela natin ang nahampas ng payog o kinurot nung may nakakilala sa mall.

In the same way, hindi rin totoo a sobrang immaculate si Pacquiao gaya ng gusto palabasin sa media. First of all, plastic naman sa totoo lang yung pananawagan nya ng pagkakaisa. Its so scripted and trapo-ish. Pangalawa nagdrugs na dati yan, nambabae pa, at hangang ngayon sugarol. Di ko naman sinasabing saksakan ng sama si Pacquiao, pero hindi sya santong dapat luhuran at samabahin. Sobrang idolatry na nga ginagawa sa tao eh. I appreciate Pacquiao as a fighter but he is no more than a sports hero

To tell you the truth, I only started paying for sex later in my youth, not so much as para magparaos but just to experience how it works and out of curiosity na din ika nga and because some of my friends wanted to go. At first I hesitated because natatakot ako mahawaan ng sakit and I didn't feel comfortable having sex with a girl na diko naman kilala. So we went to Caloocan and there's a bar there (I forgot the name) and as we entered the small swinging doors na parang sa western movies I immediately saw tables with guys drinking with gros and what not under dim red lights. So my friend who's familiar with the place talked to the waiter and we were asked to choose a lady from a lineup. Then we were brought upstairs and asked to wait in small rooms na may gamit pa nung girl na napili namin, as if dun din sila natutulog because I can see their personal stuff lying around. The bed was more like a wooden cot with a thin mattress, maliit lang na good for 1 person. As I sat there someone came in and I saw it was her, the lady I chose. I could see that she was wasted and she smelled like an ashtray as she handed me the condom and asked me to strip. It was a terrible experience for me but I pounded her until makaraos ako kahit hindi ako nag enjoy dahil nanghinayang din ako sa binayad ko. For me the feeling was strange. She was attractive naman kahit pano, and sexy, pero walang dating sakin kase inside my head alam ko hindi sya nakipag sex sakin dahil gusto nya ako. I knew it wasn't the point, I knew it's all just about sex and money but I just couldn't get over the thought na wala akong effort na ginawa para maikama ko sya. I wasn't used to that scenario, My uncle always taught me "money for nothing, chicks for free", so all the while nasa isip ko un and I felt I was betraying myself. Hindi ako nagmamalaki na matinik ako sa chicks at hindi ako mukang artista na para pagkaguluhan nila pero I can hold my own naman kahit pano, kahit mejo torpe ako. The point of the story is, we are men and as men we should be able to tell the difference between haviing sex for fun or relaxation as opposed to having sex for love and attraction.

Unfortunately some men are just emotionally immature and insecure. They can't tell the difference. In fact they can't even tell the difference between love and infatuation. Marami talagang ganyan na basta nakasex lang at medyo may konting lambing pa, mahal na agad at lahat hahamakin na. Mahirap pa dyan lagi kasi inuuna ang puso bago ang utak eh. Which I have consistently said na mali talaga. Under no circumstances na dapat mangibabaw puso sa pagiisip.

I believe it will be good for boxing if Manny wins. A lot of people will be interested in the sport. Win or lose, Mayweather will still be making a lot of Money with the sport, because many people just wanna see the living sh!t get kicked out of him. Its hard to appreciate Mayweather's fighting style by casual fight fans who really have no reason to follow the sport.

Moreover, this is hero vs villain/ sinner vs saint matchup. Pacquiao being the humble fighter who came from poverty and supposedly fights for his country. Mayweather is the douchebag who is arrogant and runs his mouth all the time. He is only concerned about money, and aside from that people love to attach all sorts of negative stigma on him. I.e. he is a punk, a cherry picker, and a coward. So much that they no longer respect that he really has the best skills in the game right now. In a typical cinderella story, we want the underdog to win. We want the douche to be put in his place. We wanna see mayweather get embarassed. But at the end of the day, its the man with better skills whose gonna win.

On the Flipside, pag nanalo si Pacquiao, yayabang nanaman ng husto mga pilipino. Magiging supremacist nanaman tayo. Ang magiging gospel nanaman ng mass media, Pilipino na ang pinakamagaling sa buong mundo at dapat luhuran ng ibang lahi. Wala nanaman tayong maririnig na makabuluhang balita kundi si Pacquiao. Asahan na din natin na gaganahan lalo mga Pinoytards sa internet maging internet warriors.

Sa totoo lang, nakakainis yang mga Pinoytards na yan. Hindi ka matutuwa na Pilipino ka dahil sa kanila. Talagang pinapakita pa pagiging utak squatter sa internet. Ang hihilig sumigaw ng "proud to be pinoy" at "patriotic" daw mga hindi naman nagbabayad ng buwis. Palamunin lang naman sila ng tax payers. Higit pa dyan wala naman talaga iniaambag ng kahit na ano sa pilipinas.

Sakin kasi, sobra na yung idolatry na pinapakita kay Pacquiao. Mistulang dyos na sya. Na tipong pag may masamang nasabi sa kanya, dapat buong pilipinas na maapektuhan.

Come to think of it, the time of the day has got nothing to do with it.

Pick at time when you have less distractions, you can fully focus, and you do not need to rush. This is how results are achieved.

Ako since di morning person at nagmamadali pa sa trabaho, gabi talaga for me.

Pero diba?! Misplaced ang ego! Kahit ba sabihin mong after ng next meetings ng person for hire ay hindi na sa loob ng establishment, even if you dated her outside from that point on. It still comes down to that point that you met him/her in the establishment, meaning during the first time you met, you payed. You payed for her time and services. Why? because men like these couldn't hack it in the real world. Thats how DOMs work, and I don't want to grow up like that. it's shallow and not healthy.

Ideally I wouldn't encourage guys to ply this route, na masanay sila sa ganitong klaseng pagpaparaos but the fact remains, it is the most convenient way for many, especially for married and busy guys, to have sex without strings attached. As long as no strings attached, meaning walang ligawan, walang syotaan, at business lang in the purest sense, at pag uwi mo sa bahay mahal mo pa din asawa mo at mga anak nyo (wag mo lang sya hawaan ng sakit). Kung binata ka naman at sociable, masmaganda siguro na matuto ka muna mang hunting sa labas ng club at dun mo itesting ung prowess nyo sa chicks. Take note- social skills. Hindi mo kelangan ng social skills sa mp or clubs kase usually ung babae ang mag poprovide nun para sayo. Tama ka, hindi magandang venue maghanap ng karelasyon sa club or spa dahil nagkapalitan ng pera sa umpisa which is too convenient and malicious and hindi mo din maikwento sa mga kamaganak nyo in the future kung pano kayo nagkakilala.

On this I will agree with you guys 200%. Kaya nga nakakainis dyan yung mga sumosobra na talaga ang yabang na kung magkwento at manermon akala mo kung sino ng napaka expert sa babae... Na tipong modern-day Rico Suave Y Cassanova. Marami na daw sila "friends" sa ganitong lugar. Kilalalng kilala paguugali nila. Pero malamang mga di naman makalapit sa babae kung di naman kelangan bigyan ng tip. Malamang din kung sobrang high class yung babae at kaya mamili ng guest, hindi naman sila pipiliin.

Isa pang nakakairita kung magtanggol sa mga babae sa thread na ito, akala mo kung sinong white knight cavalry na pababa ang tingin. Pero pag nasa MP threads naman, panay kwento ng maruruming detalye ng mga serbisyo nila at ineendorso pa sa mga kapwa nila manyakis. Kung idescribe yung babae, parang sariwang karne lang na gusto ipatikim sa iba.

Kaya nga ako, I have respect for men na kahit may edad na nagagawa pa din makauto ng babae na mas bata bata sa kanila, kahit di naman MP/GRO/Thera. Yung imbes na sinasayang lagi pera para maghanap ng babaeng bobola sa kanila, mas pinili na lang maginvest sa sarili nila. Tipong talagang hindi nagpatubo ng bilbil at inalagaan mabuti sarili nila so they age gracefully. Higit sa lahat, hindi kiss and tell. Yan ang mga totoong idol

diba mga Geisha yan if I'm not mistaken? sa culture nila accepted yata un ganyang klaseng entertainment lalo na sa mga male professionals na naghahanap ng aliw after working so hard in the office. Stress relief kung baga. Prone din sila (geisha) ma inlove kahit sabihin na strikto sila and nagaantay din sila ng patrons na mayaman na inaasahan din nilang pakasalan sila in the future. There is also a standing dispute if what they are doing can be considered prostitution when they perform paid sex (Mizuage) where the girl loses her virginity to a patron.

Also, I don't belive na nasusunod ung no sex policy nila sa libog nila, lol, malamang kahit pano nailalabas ng ibang piling clients ung girl of their choice, under the table nga lang ang usapan at very discreet. Sa Japan pa, walang imposible sa underworld nila, pera pera lang din jan. Same here sa KL, pagtinanong mo sa club manager kung pede maglabas ng babae initially sasabihin nila sayo hindi pwede, pero pagmadalas ka na pumumpunta at kilala ka na ng manager sasabihin na nila sayo depende sa babae at sila pa mismo mag convince sa babae na sumama sayo at a price, lol.

Iba naman talaga ang Geisha. Its more of cultural appreciation sya. Tsaka ang geisha dapat expert sa traditional japanese performing arts. Wala naman talagang sex innuendo services nila. They will serve you drinks, perform for you, and thats pretty much it. Its expensive din maghire ng geisha for a private show. Kelangan mayaman ka talaga o may kapit ka sa mga circles dun. Hirap din humuli ng geisha sa Kyoto kasi. Nung may na-ispotan kami, nagtatago sila sa mga cam namin.

As for host/hostess clubs and the no sex policy, of course di naman maiiwasan siguro na may lumabag sa policy na yan. Palihim na lang siguro. In fact nung nagaaral ako I had Filipina friends who worked in this kind of place. Most lang naman is aakbayan ka other than that wala na. Mababaw lang kasi happiness ng mga hapon. Ipamper mo lang konti, serve them drinks, samahan mo kumanta ng konti masaya na sila.

Kung talaga kasi sex hanap ng mga hapon, hindi sila pupunta sa ganitong lugar. Dun sila sa mga tinatawag na soapland, which is the equivalent of MP satin, and pinakamalapit siguro sa spa is the pink salons

True, for the younger generations. But this industry has clientele dominated by middle aged, blue collar and white collar class men. What I'm trying to say is, it's an ego booster for them knowing they can pay to see a girl, talk to her in a secluded room and get his service. You see what I mean? Most men like this have the tendency to be the opposite in the real world, shy, secluded. When it comes to approaching mature, independent, and financially capable women, they wouldn't stand a chance. I guess mababaw lang talaga ibang lalake, I'm not talking about me. I'm talking about this guy with all his spakol achievements, I came to him after my problem with my thera but when he started talking about his life which almost only revolved the flesh industry, I realized it's a very shallow way to live life. I'm too young to start acting like a DOM, I have places to go, people to meet, have lots of game still for free and willing sex with women my age. Your life is sad if all you do is move from one thera relationship to the next. Even if we say these theras are mature, (mature in a different sense) these women will never be independent and financially capable and will always be in a way emotionally scarred and thats what some clients's prey on thats how they get in to the emotions of girls like this. They look for vulnerable young and good looking theras to have relationships with, what a sad life. Pag binigyan mo ng babaeng alam ginagawa niya sa buhay at kaya ang sarili wala tong mga ganyang klase ng clients, their existence wont even be acknowledged. As man your wallet is thick but your ego is misplaced.

 

And one other thing, madaming thera ngayon are not what they seem, ewan ko ba I guess mababaw talaga ibang lalake nakitang lang maputi, bata, maganda katawan pede na sa kanila. Most of these theras didn't look like that before the industry. Ever heard of gluta? Would you really like this girl if you saw what she looked like before. Kababawan lang talaga.

Sabagay, naalala ko sa Japan, maraming clubs na nag-o-offer ng ganitong services. Parang GRO services na may halong GFE pero most of the time clean fun lang. Walang sex na kasama. At huwag ka, kung merong para sa lalake, merong din club para sa mga babae. May mga boyfriend for hire din sila. Pero yun nga, kadalasan clean fun lang naman ino-offer nila. Boost ng ego ng costumer. Maglalambing lambing, pero may rule yung establishment na walang sex.

Well, we definitely can't stop all of them from entering this age-old industry and many of them don't know any better or don't have any support from friends or have friends like you. Lalo na pagnakatikim na sila nung kita at nabibili na nila ung gusto nila para sa kanila at pamilya nila, it's all just a means to an end for them. Some people and even whole cultures have different perceptions on morality especially when it comes to the sex industry. In Thailand, one of the most prolific in terms of ladies working in clubs and spas, they are not ashamed of it. In fact, according to their religion which is Buddhism, even if they work in the sex trade they can still gain good karma or "merit" as long as they do it for their parents and family. Magtataka ka, because many of them are university graduates and have worked in multinational companies BUT they say they sacrifice themselves to have a higher income for their family in this lifetime so that in the next one they will be reborn with better lives. But when they marry, they quit, and ultimately for many of them, they live normal lives. It's not like they don't have a choice, yes they do, everyone has a choice. Sa Pinas at sa madaming lugar, pag pera na ang issue at pano kumita ng mabilisan hindi rin ganon kadami ang options lalo na sa madaming probinsya, or gaya nung sa Thailand nagkaron pa sila ng lusot na hindi immoral at hindi masama ang ginagawa nila.

Well it is what it is. Its not a pretty business. It takes a toll on you, and its well.... for a lack of better word to describe it.... dirty. Surely wala naman sigurong babae na ito pinangarap pasukin. Kapit ito sa patalim. Hindi ko kinukutya o hinuhusgahan ang mga babaeng pumapasok sa ganitong trabaho. Hinid ko rin naman sinasabi na talagang masama sila. Ang sakin lang, tama ka na many of them don't know any better. Na kung talagang didiskarte ka lang, pwede naman hindi ito ang pasukin. It never is one way.

At the same time andyan na yan kasi. Kaya dapat pagsumikapan nila makaalis. On their own terms. At hindi yung umaasa sila sa prince charming na darating para sagipin sila.

Masama pa kasi nito meron yung mga labas pasok sa ganitong trabaho at di na makaalis. Parang di na makaiba ng linya naman.

 

 

I'll have to disagree about Floyd not ducking Manny.

 

Floyd ducked Manny, because he was afraid to get hurt, and Floyd said this himself, that he valued his health more than any fight. Even Roger said as much. They knew Manny could hurt him, and that's when the steroid allegations started. And yes Floyd can be hurt, just watch the Zab Judah fight. Zab Judah wasn't as technical as Manny was and his footwork wasn't that great, but he tagged and wobbled PBF multiple times, until he gassed. All that Zab Judah had was lightning speed and a southpaw stance, but he tagged Mayweather all night. And the world knew that a quick southpaw would be the key to dismantling PBF.

First of all, boxing is a hit and don't get hit game. Its not supposed to be that bullsh!t Rocky Balboa Vs Ivan Drago. Floyd is a master of this, so in a sense he is right that he does not want to take punishment. Second in as much as Manny can hurt Floyd, Floyd can hurt him even more. He is bigger than him, he has better reach advantage, better reflexes, and the perfect style to nuetralize Manny's forward onslaught. From the point of view of skill vs skill, I dont see why he'd duck Manny.

Zab lost that fight because Mayweather effectively frustrated him and adjusted to his game. Counterpunchers and precision fighters are always known to be slow starters, they like to adjust and frustrate opponents. Ito ang mga nakakaasar sa totoo lang sa sparring. Yung tipo bang hindi mo na nga matamaan nasisingitan ka pa ng suntok lagi. Many opponents fell into this trap, Judah, Hatton, Maidana, and Ortiz. They all started to get frustrated and started being reckless and paid for it dearly.

Before manny got his lights turned off by Marquez, many were criticizing that while it was impressive to see him fight bigger guys, he were fighting guys who had styles perfect for his. Come forward, bully the smaller guy and be slower. When he fought Marquez for the third time he got exposed really badly. That all along it was an issue of style and skill not size.

Before that as well, Floyd called out Manny himself back in 2012. This is after Manny already agreeing with the drug tests. He wanted to scehdule a may 5 bout. But excuses from Manny's camp kept pouring in. His stitches wont heal in time, but Ironically he took on bradley and lost that fight. Another excuse was that Uncle Bob wanted to build an outdoor stadium in the strip. Not saying that Floyd's ego got in the way of the negotiations, but I dont think its fair to blame everything on him. Besides we all wanna believe Floyd is a coward because he acts like a douche all the time, when in fact its all just for show.