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The need to have good shooters is already a given sa international competition kaya dapat masanay na tumitira laban sa malalaki since most of the teams playing will be bigger, stronger and can possibly match our speed.

Thus I think we need to go bigger and still maintain our "speed" para hindi naman tayo kalabawin.

So for me kung may matatanggal man sa current line-up para maimprove ang team sana hindi ikasama ng loob.

IMHO ...

Kaman is not a rebuilding piece but rather a stop gap measure ...

It is not wise to rebuild with a guy who struggled to get himself injury free in he last several years moreso coming from a season in which he hadn't play a single game.

Even if they have already achieved their goal to qualify for the world basketball championship and without the injured Marcus, they still fought hard against Iran. Saludo ako sa inyo Gilas! Mabuhay!

hopefully japeth will be able to focus come pba time...

Correct! I think the problem with this kid is more of the mental/psychological rather than his skills to be able to be productive for whichever team he plays for.

I don't think the reason for not trying to get Andrew is because of "kahiyaan ". Remember the Lakers are over the cap even if they were not able to resign DH. As such they have nothing to offer nor assets to give assuming they try to work for a sign n trade.

Check your facts bro ...

 

They have DH's birds right so they could offer/sign him even to a max contract even if they already exceeded the cap. But they wouln't be able to do that for any other free agents if they don't own the BR .

 

Otherwise, why would all the signings to date be for the mle or the veteran's minimum only?

Whatever you have in mind regarding bird's right as what you are pointing out is incorrect.

 

Even if they amnestied MWP the Lakers are still over the cap for the upcoming year. Kobe, Pau and Steve's salary alone will already be within the cap limit, if not even exceed.

 

As i said Bynum earning less than DH has nothing to do whether the Lakers can sign him even if they want to since salary cap rules won't allow them. That's why i said check your facts first.

 

The only way the Lakers will be able to sign Bynum is if he agrees to take the kind of salary kaman agreed to or the veterans min. Which he won't.

easy.. ikaw na mismo nagsabi na 3.6 na lang remainder sa cap ng L.A... and if braynt will re-neg just like what wade and james did to get bosh... simpleng math lang yan... kung tama ang assumptions mo

 

 

Just to put things in their proper perspective ....

• I never mentioned that the remaining cap of the Lakers is $3.6M just look at all my previous post.

• In fact I repeatedly said they are an OVER THE CAP team. As such if they are over the cap it is impossible to have a "remaining cap".

• I also repeatedly said for the Lakers to be able to sign Bynum he should be willing to accept the kind of salary Kaman agreed to which is the MLE or for the veteran's minimum. These two are among the EXCEPTIONS I presented in the Wiki link that will allow over the cap team to sigh free agents (if they don't own the bird's right).

Now, since you are insisting that the Lakers can sign Bynum even if they are over the cap. How? Obviously they don't have his bird's right so that is out. He also signed for $12m of which $6M is guaranteed. For discussion sake even if is only for $6M that obviously won't fall under the MLE nor the veteran's minimum.

According to you, "IF BRYANT will reneg" then it becomes a possibility. But Kobe still has a live contract and is not a FA. Will the NBA allow him to renegotiate and get a lower contract for this year? The answer is NO. The NBA does not allow any player to reneg a live contract to a lower amount in order to create cap space. Then again, you are very clear in saying that signing Bynum is possible IF Kobe will reneg. Obviously, at this point Kobe didn't not reneg so it is pointless to even argue on that possibility moreso speculate on that matter.

To sum it up kahit na hindi dahil sa kahiyaan at talagang gustong-gusto ng Lakers makuha si Bynum ang MLE or veteran's minimum lang ang kaya nilang i-offer para mapapirma ito. Nasa iyo na yan kung ano ang opinion mo whether or not tatanggap si Bynum ng MLE. Ako, ang sa tingin ko HINDI kasi nga nakita na naman natin kung anong klaseng kontrata ang gusto niyang makuha. Yan ang opinion ko.

prayers answered when Qatar won over TAipei. Now Gilas should ensure that they win the game vs Hong Kong.

Nasa Diyos ang awa nasa tao ang gawa ...

At this point, I think the Koreans are playing much better than the Chinese. We just don't know how serious Yi's injury is and whether he will definitely play come the quarterfinals. But I think the Chinese team without Yi maybe a fairly good match-up for Gilas. Medyo hindi kasing husay ang kanilang PG vs nun PG ng dating team nila.

One thing for sure is that it seems the road to a top 3 finish is easier if we end up number 1 in our group so let's pray that Qatar will win their game vs Taiwan (by a small margin). If that happens we could be facing Kazakhstan in the QF then S. Korea in the Semis. I like our chances vs the Kazakhs so a win then over South Korea assures us of 2nd place. A lost means we can possibly face China for the 3rd and last slot to qualify for Fiba World.

I rather face China and /or S. Korea in the later stages than a win or go home situation in the QF.

From BLEACHERREPORT:

"The most disappointing aspect of Howard’s departure is that it doesn’t even provide the Lakers with enough cap relief to go after impact free agents.

Even without Howard’s $20 million-plus on the books, L.A. is over the cap. As a matter of fact, they remain deep into luxury-tax territory. They only have the taxpayer’s mid-level exception (valued at about $3.2 million this season) and veteran’s minimum contracts to offer."

yes mas mura ang sweldo ni bynum kaysa ke dw... kaya pwede syangkunin kasama ang salary cut na binanggit ko ...ganun kadali yun if they wanted too

Huh? Paano? How can you do that without any violation of the NBA Salary Cap rule?

Yun salary cut na binabanggit mo baka next year pa yan mangyari. E this year ang pinaguusapan. In other words, you are saying that an over the cap team like the Lakers can sign a free agent without using the"EXCEPTIONS" just because they will be below the cap next year. PWEDE yun?

ang bird's right ay isang definition lang pero maraming kindisyon..basahin momaige yung ginogle mo

Huh? Ayon sa nasusulat simple lang ang bird's right...ito ay ang karapatan ng isang over the cap team na papirmahin ang isang free agent player kahit na umabot sa max contract basta hawak nito ang bird's right.

So ano yun maraming kundisyon na sinasabi mo?

salary cap rules pag aaralan ko?ikaw ba nagpaaralan mo bago mo nilagay yung mga nasa isip mo? pag aralanmomaige bago ka makipag talastasan dito

of course napagaralan ko.

pwedeng papirmahin ang players kahit nag exceed sa cap basta is sign and trade mo.. wag mo agad igeneralize ..mahirap yung konting alam ..lason yun... yung sweldo ng 3 players na sinabi mo malaki nga kaya ng sinabi ko na willing si kobe mag cut.. ang sweldo ni bynum 6M USD yata this year....

tama ka ...pero technically you didn't sign that player you traded for that player. So doing a sign and trade has nothing to do with "bird's right". But then again, look at my earlier post (#206). Nabanggit ko na rin na isang possibilidad ito pero sabi ko nga ano naman ang ibibigay na asset ng Lakers para mapapayag ang Sixers?

ang pinaliwanag mo yung SARADONG pananaw mo na sa pagnanais magpakitang gilas na marami kang alam kahit kulang kulang at walang respeto sa opinyon ng ibang tao

Sir mali ka po...pinapakita ko sa iyo ang puntong sa pananaw ko ay tama ayon sa aking nabasa at naipakita sa iyo, Ngayon kung sa tingin mo na mali ako tulad ng sinasabi mo, Bakit hindi mo na lang patunayan na pwede nga papirmahin ng Lakers si Bynum tulad ng nakuha niyang contract sa Cavs na hindi lalabag sa salary cap rules.

ang middle level exception eh isa lang sa mga kondisyon na pwedeng gamitin ng isang NBA team para mai sign ang isang veteran.. dahil soft cap lang ang ginagamit ng NBA, maraming ways para makaikot sa CAP... kaya wg ka umastang alam na alam mo ang salary cap sa NBA>

Hindi po isang KONDISYON ang MLE ... isa ito sa mga EXCEPTIONS kung anung paraan pwedeng magpapirma ang isang over the cap team ng free agent.

Isa sa mga EXCEPTIONS na yan po ang Larry Bird exception (kapag hawak ng team ang Bird's Rights). Nandyan din yun MLE, Bi-annual exception, rookie exception, early bird exception, non-bird exception, trade exception at disabled player exception.

Ngayon, alam natin over the cap na this year ang Lakers. So alin sa mga exceptions na yan ang pwedeng gamitin ng Lakers para mapapirma as a free agent si Bynum?

hindi ka agent ni bynum kaya hindi mo sigurado kung pipirma sya o hindi sa lakers wag ka ng mangatwiran na malaki ang offer ng cleveland sa kanya... 6MUSD ang guranteed dun at hindi 12M USD...basahin mo history ng paghihiwalay nila ng lakers...

Ano naman ang kinalaman ng history sa simpleng argumento ko na kahit gustuhin ng Lakers papirmahin si Bynum this year ay hindi nila magagawa? At kung sign and trade option naman ang titingnan ay sa palagay ko walang "asset" silang maibibigay na gugustuhin ng Sixers.

At tungkol naman sa kontrata ni Bynum, yes only 6M of the 12M is guaranteed. Pero hindi ibig nun sabihin sa libro o sa salary cap 6m lang ang bilang. 12M pa rin po kasi yun naman ang kanyang matatanggap kung na meet niya yun mga conditions.

Pero sige assuming 6M nga lang ang pasahod ng Cavs sa kanya, ang tanong anong exception ang gagamitin ng Lakers para papirmahin siya?

Sabi mo hindi ko po malalaman kung hindi nga pipirma si Bynum sa Lakers (assuming may offer) dahil hindi naman ako agent nito.

At kung tulad mo rin lang na mamimilosopo ako, ang tanong ko po ay kung executive ka ba ng Lakers para malaman na "KAHIYAAN" talaga ang rason kung bakit di nila kinukuha si Bynum?

ngayon yung pinost mo na galing wikipedia about Bird's rights basahin mo maige ng buo at wag lang excerpt...

 

next time matuto kang umintindi ng opinion ng ibang tao

Sir naintindihan ko po ang nabasa ko sa Wikipidia ...

Nabasa ko rin ang ipinost mo ...at naintindihan ang pinupunto ninyo.

I respect your opinion that "kahiyaan" could be the reason for the Lakers not wanting to sign Bynum. However, my opinion is that even if "kahiyaan" is not a factor they would not be able to sign him at the kind of contract he got since salary cap rules won't allow them to. The only way is for Bynum to agree to sign based on the EXCEPTIONS or via the sign and trade. But then again if it would be the later, it is my opinion again that the Lakers have no assets to offer that will interest the Sixers.

MAganda ang pinapakita ni Japeth sa Gilas. If he can just do the same with GSM am pretty sure malaking maitutulong niya sa team.

Well what ever you are thinking that i thought about bird's right is wrong... Define mo muna ang birds right na nasa isip mo and thenets cover it another discussion

 

Well if you have facts about the salary of kobe gasol and nash, then substantiate mo at agay mo dito then lets analyze it.... Then tingnan natin kung di kaya salary cap compared sa salary ni dh plus luxury taxes... Then i could check my facts ...

 

How would you know that bynum wont sign with them? Ikaw ba agent nya?

• Ang pananaw mo kasi ay ganitong kasimple ... para sa iyo mas mura ang sweldo ni Bynum kay DH kaya kung willing silang bayaran si DH at magexceed sa cap bakit hindi pwedeng papirmahin si BYNUM. Ngunit hindi ganun kadali yun. Bakit hindi mo pagaralan kung ano ang rules sa NBA tungkol sa salary cap bago ka makipagtalo o pagpilitan na tama yang pananaw mo?

• Sa pagkakaalam ko iisa lang naman ang definition ng "BIRD's RIGHT" ng NBA. At ito ang dahilan kung bakit maaring papirmahin ng isang team na lagpas na sa salary cap ang kanilang sariling free agent kahit na max contract pa ang ibibigay. Kung over the cap team ka at hindi mo pagaari ang bird's right ng free agent then pwede mo lang silang papirmahin gamit ang mga "EXCEPTIONS"

• At sinabi ko na rin sa iyo na yun sweldo nila Kobe Pau at Nash ay higit kumulang katumbas na ng salary cap. Ibig sabihin over the cap team na ang lakers. At dahil hawak nila ang Bird's Right ni DH pwede nilang bigyan ng MAX contract ni DH pero hindi si Bynum kasi nga hindi nila hawak ang Bird's right nito. Yun ang pagkakaibahan.

• Naipaliwanag ko na rin kung bakit sa pananw ko hindi pipirma sa kanila si Bynum at ito ay dahil hindi siya tatanggap ng sweldo katumbas ng MLE na siyang pinakamalaking kayang i-offer ng Lakers sa isang free agent na hindi nila hawak ang bird's right. Bakt MLE lang? Kasi yun na ang pinakamalaking kayang ibigay ng isang over the cap team via the EXCEPTION.

• At kahit hindi ako ang agent ni Bynum alam natin kung magkano ang tinanggap na kontrata ni Bynum sa Cleveland. At alam natin na ang Cavs ang siyang nag offer ng pinakamalaki kumpara sa ibang teams na gusto siyang kunin/papirmahin...Hindi mo kailangan maging agent ni Bynum para maintindihan na malabong pumirma sa Lakers si Bynum kahit gustuhim man nila. All one needs is to have some common sense.

You could have easily checked your facts if you wanted to ... all your queries are easily available had you googled it. Anyway here are some of the links which you can go through.

http://basketball.ab...bird-rights.htm

http://en.wikipedia..../NBA_salary_cap

http://hoopshype.com...s/la_lakers.htm

Larry Bird exception[edit source | editbeta]

Perhaps the most well-known of the NBA's salary cap exceptions, it is so named because the Boston Celtics were the first team permitted to exceed the salary cap to re-sign one of their own players. Free agents who qualify for this exception are called "qualifying veteran free agents" or "Bird Free Agents" in the CBA, and this exception falls under the auspices of the Veteran Free Agent exception. In essence, the Larry Bird exception allows teams to exceed the salary cap to re-sign their own free agents, at an amount up to the maximum salary. To qualify as a Bird free agent, a player must have played three seasons without being waived or changing teams as a free agent. Players claimed after being amnestied have their Bird rights transferred to their new team.

 

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frankly, hindi ako nagagalingan ke chua as a coach or to say the least, sa technical coaching.... however i respect the guy because he has the experience... kaso di ko rin gusto si ato as coach for ginebra... i like siot and jong but apparently having them back might not be the best for the team either...

Kay olsen nagagalingan ka? Kasi nagtatanong ka whats wrong with olsen eh

Is Boycie Zamar next in line for Ginebra head-coaching job?

IT looks like the coaching saga at Barangay Ginebra is far from over.

Sources said newly appointed coach Ato Agustin will only call the shots for Ginebra in the coming Governors Cup and will give way to current University of the East mentor Boycie Zamar at the start of next season.

Zamar is the latest addition to the Ginebra coaching staff, and is reportedly the personal choice of San Miguel Corp. big boss Ramon S. Ang who was impressed by his work with the Warriors in the college leagues.

However, the veteran coach is not available to step into the Ginebra job after Alfrancis Chua's surprise resignation since he is still tied down with the Red Warriors until the end of the UAAP season in October.

The season-ending Governors Cup kicks off on August 14.

The SMC plan, sources said, is to name Agustin as head coach of San Miguel Beer in the Asean Basketball League (ABL) after his stint with Ginebra, replacing Leo Austria who will take over at Petron.

Like Zamar, Austria, who led the Beermen to their maiden championship in the last ABL season, won't be available for a PBA head-coaching job until the end of his commitment with Adamson in the UAAP.

Spin.ph tried to contact San Miguel head of basketball operations Robert Non for confirmation on Friday, but he is not taking calls.

The development should come as a surprise to Ginebra's legion of fans, most of whom are expecting Chua to return to the head-coaching position beginning in next season's Philippine Cup.

The fiery mentor resigned last week but was persuaded by team management to take a leave of absence instead. He was appointed by Ang as Ginebra's new team manager on Thursday.

If the plans push through, Chua will remain as team manager when Zamar takes over next season, which will kick off on November 17.

Chua is also unavailable for comment.

(For full story on Agustin's appointment, see Ato Agustin named new Ginebra coach as Chua moves up to team manager)

However, it is unclear if the plans are cast in stone or flexible enough to be changed if Agustin comes up with an impressive performance with the Gin Kings in the Governors Cup.

Agustin led Petron to the Governors Cup championship two seasons ago.

Meanwhile, American coach Todd Purves is expected to arrive on Friday from a scouting job with the Memphis Grizzlies in the NBA Summer League to join the Petron coaching staff.

The former Indonesia Warriors head coach in the ABL has been named as Petron's new team consultant where he is expected to guide interim coach Gee Abanilla.

http://www.spin.ph/s...oaching-job-v02

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bird's rights? i thought this was reserved for the best player or the team's own free agent? dw was not a free agent in 2012 and they were able to acquire him via the bynum trade... at any rate, what i meant with they do not have any issues with the cap is that bynum earns less than dwight... it is not an issue... or if assuming you are correct, they had amnestied meta right? and kobe, according to news, is willing to scale down?

 

i do not have the salary figures but going back to my original argument that they did not picked bynum because of kahiyaan, stands for me because they let go of bynum thinking that dwight would stay... they can pick him up anytime but opted not to

Whatever you have in mind regarding bird's right as what you are pointing out is incorrect.

Even if they amnestied MWP the Lakers are still over the cap for the upcoming year. Kobe, Pau and Steve's salary alone will already be within the cap limit, if not even exceed.

As i said Bynum earning less than DH has nothing to do whether the Lakers can sign himeven if they want to since salary cap rules won't allow them. That's why i said check your facts first.

The only way the Lakers will be able to sign Bynumisif he agrees to take the kind of salary kaman agreed to or the veterans min. Which he won't.

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i don't think so... they let go of bynum with the dwight deal....they could not just pick him up again...the salary cap was never a problem for them in fact they even made an offer to dwight inspite of the cap issue

Check your facts bro ...

They have DH's birds right so they could offer/sign him even to a max contract even if they already exceeded the cap. But they wouln't be able to do that for any other free agents if they don't own the BR .

Otherwise, why would all the signings to date be for the mle or the veteran's minimum only?

Does Fab Melo Have a Place with the Boston Celtics?

Meanwhile, Fab Melo never made an impact, and spent most of the season in the D-League. He did have bright spots in the D-League, however, averaging 9.8 points, 6.0 rebounds, and 3.1 blocks per game.

 

Doc Rivers is generally hesitant to give rookies significant playing time, but Melo's lack of impact on this year's team is concerning. Sullinger got his chance before his injury, and Boston was in need of bigs by the end of the season. Jason Collins got a shot primarily for his defensive abilities before he was traded, so the fact that Fab Melo was stuck in the D-League says something.

http://sports.yahoo....-120200435.html

Does Fab Melo Have a Place with the Boston Celtics?

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/does-fab-melo-place-boston-celtics-120200435.html

I don't think the reason for not trying to get Andrew is because of "kahiyaan ". Remember the Lakers are over the cap even if they were not able to resign DH. As such they have nothing to offer nor assets to give assuming they try to work for a sign n trade.

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First major post Noli Eala move by BGSM:

 

PLANS TO ACQUIRE ASI TAULAVA, CANCELLED.

 

Is this wise?? I mean, after Rudy Hatfield's retirement?

It really depends to what te Bolts wants. I mean i wonder if it is wise to give up anyone now for Asi considering he is already 40.

One or two second round picks should be a fair trade for his rights imho.

Bandwagon fans tawag mo sa mga ganon. Pag nananalo lang don sila masaya. Pag Hindi, Nasa wala yung mga so called fans.

well mukhang madami bandwagon fans ang C's. The Boston thread is one of the most active if not the most active thread years back when they were a serious contender. Now it seems non Celtics fans are keeping this thread alive.

For the record i did not conveniently miss the "previousl play" .... Its just that at the time of making the decision it has not happened so i would not criticize Pop on that. He didn't have the benefit of hindsight.

Could the play happen. Yes. Is fouling the right call before we saw the play? Yes if what will happen happened but No if it didn't we never will know at the time he was making his decision. In other words either decision will either result to the Spurs winning or not.

If your objective is to foul so that you will not give the Heat the opportunity to tie, then it is illogical to wait for the offensive board to foul if this decision isn't made in hindsight. The first attempt is already a potential game equalizer. A foul should have been given even before the first attempt. Otherwise you also gave them the chance to tie. Illogical but you decided it should be the decision.

The spurs shoots .480 from the field. They were limited to the lower .400s. That was not D?

The spurs also shot well when the won except in game one. In game 7 the heat fg% is below their ave but they were able to limit the spurs to below .400 that's D

 

 

When I posted that link it's discussing how Miami's offense won. You read the reference and because it's long, you specifically chose the Pop's overall strategy. Was I discussing that with you? I'm only discussing the critical plays.

 

Hindi bias kundi ang pinag-usapan natin dito from the start are the crucial mistakes that cost them the title.

Well you wanted to show me a link that says Miami shoots its way to the title and yet hindi ko pwedeng i-highlight yun other points ng link just because it won't help your cause?

How bias and one track minded can you be bro to see things only that favors your argument.

Alam mo ganito lang yan ... abutin man tayo ng isang taon, isang dekada o mas matagal pa, hindi naman magbabago ang opinion ko. Wala akong pakialam kung mali man o hindi ang naging desisyon ni Pop. Sa pananaw ko kasi tama pero kahit natalo sila I am not affected. And I am not rejoicing either because the Heat won either.

Now it seems you are a Spurs fan than can't move on from what happened thus you continue to be affected. Well, I'm so sorry for you. Opinions will never be wrong since it is one's POV. It could be "illogical" but for that person it is valid coz that's how he sees it.

YOu can criticize Pop all you want but you're doing that with the benefit of hindsight. I guess its time to end this discussion whether or not Pop made the right decision (at the time he made it) without the benefit of hindsight. A simple question should help resolving this...At the time when he decided not to foul, are you sure that the Spurs will lose the game if they use that strategy? If your answer is YES then I rest my case. Otherwise, there is no point to continue this as we both know we won't be able to convince each other.

The link refers to our offense-defense discussion of Miami heat. Not Pop's strategy. You are relating the wrong comment to the link.

nope you read me right ...

the problem is sarado kasi pananaw mo with your bias. Tingnan mo ang pinakita sa link at magisip ka kung bakit Pop decided to play honest D and defend the three.

As I said I am not a Heat nor a Spurs fan I call it just the way I see it without favoring any team

Game 2:

"You know what, credit to Miami, honestly. First start there. They outplayed us. They ended quarters better than us. We turned the ball over more than we should have. Credit to them. We didn't play well. We didn't shoot well. I know I played awfully." -- Tim Duncan

 

Miami had more fast breakpoints and a bit higher FG% and more inside points. Spurs more rebounds.

 

Game 4:

The big 3 totaled 85 points tonight and each shot better than 50 percent from the floor -- 37-for-64 combined (58 percent).

 

Game 6:

Almost identical stats except for the 3pt FG: 11/19 Heat vs 5/18 Spurs. And Miami also had more inside points.

 

Game 7:

Same story as game 6. Although lower 3 FG%: 12/32 Heat vs 6/19 Spurs. The 3pt FGs made is a big difference as well as the inside points.

What's the relevance of these in relation to your claim that "the fact is the Spurs when they needed to"

All I read about are reasons behind why the Spurs were not able to keep up with Miami offensively

Open mind?

 

We all know defense helps a lot. But it isn't the number of blocks, or more shots made tough that decided the finals.

 

What specific defensive stat will you use to say that the offense was negligible and that the the defense is the one that won these series?

 

Defensive stats? did I say I would use that? ...I stated earlier how the Spurs scored less against than their reg season ave versus the Heat. Now look at the FG%. Analyze then make your conclusion

This is the regular season stat .. .

Miami shot 49.6% and their opponent FG% is 44% on the other hand the spurs own FG% is at 48.1% while their opponents FG% is 44.2%. From here you know that Both teams can shoot at 48-49% and on the other hand contain their respective opponents to around 44%

Now this is the respective FG% if the Heat and Spurs respectively in the finals:

Game 1 Heat .436 Spurs .417

Game 2 Heat .494 Spurs .410

Game 3 Heat .408 Spurs .489

Game 4 Heat .529 Spurs .443

Game 5 Heat .430 Spurs .600

Game 6 Heat .469 Spurs .435

Game 7 Heat .439 Spurs .378

Did the Heat outperform themselves on the offensive end if you base it on their own FG%?

Did the Heat outperform themselves in limiting the opponent's FG%?

Don't you think playing D is a factor for forcing a lower FG% on your opponent?