jopoc

 

Basta pagdating kay De Lima, yun nangyari sa Bilibid me responsibility sya dun. 2010-2015 ka DOJ secretary naiisahan ka ng mga inmates dyan? Either you were in on the scam, or you were too incompetent to handle your job. Kahit pa sabihin nagraid sya, nangyari yan patapos na term nya. In the first place ni hindi dapat nakakalusot mga ganyang jacuzzi, swimming pool, at concert concert na yan. Anong klaseng maximum security prison facility yan? Baka micro security siguro!

fine... incompetent na sya to say the least

i never liked her anyway.

pero why the low blows on her?

 

so anong nangyari sa kasong un??? asan na???

parang si Binay dun sa Makati building ganun ba??? kaya keep quiet din??? tama????

ah.,... so pareho lang pala si digong at bina na "magnanakaw" yan ba sinasabi mo???

 

 

Kanya kanyang istilo lang ng pamumulitika, pangangalkal ng baho, pangigipit, at pagwasak sa reputasyon. Bottom line pilit lahat pinagmukha si Duterte na halimaw sa tao. Sya ang naging nasa recieiving end ng dirty tricks na yan.

 

Pero I give the guy credit, kasi MOSTLY pinanindigan nya lahat. Inamin na babaero sya, nakapatay na din ng tao. At lahat ng gusto magkaso? Sige lang! Hindi namalimos ito ng awa sa publiko.

 

Ngayon si De Lima uumpisa umpisa ng away, pagkatapos nung sya na binanatan "huhuhu kawawa naman ako, huhuhuhuhu". Aysus, anong tawag dyan? Parang hindi ka pwede maging boxingero tapos pag gumanti ng suntok kalaban mo, iiyak iyak ka naman. sus.

 

Yan pa blunder ni De Lima. Direkta nyang iniugnay na sa DDS is Duterte mismo. Pero DOJ suko sa imbestigasyon. O ngayon mukhang sya naman papaimbestigahan. About time. Lets see if she handles it better kasi noong sya ang mas nasa taas lahat din ng resources nya ginamit nya para durugin si Duterte.

actually, before pa umupo si digong, alam na yan ang gagawin nya... drug war... pero yung ibang krimen, napapabayaan...

musta ang customs? mukhang tiba-tiba ang mga nandun....

ganyan talaga ang plan na noon pa... lahat ng kokontra kay digong i=li-link sa drugs... with the massive anti-drug war, sira kung sino man aakusahan... pero smokescreen lang yang anti-drugs... smuggling talaga ang target ni digong... just like in davao....

parang sinabi mo, kanya kanyang style lang yan... lalo na sa nakawan.

speaks well of duterte and his loyal flock

 

 

kahit si Pnoy noon, you'd never hear him attack publicly a private matter of his enemies... narinig mo ba syang ikwento mga sexcapades ni Bong Revilla? No.... he attacks a public official on his faults as a public officer.... walang below the belt attack.

 

 

Well tama ka naman, kahit si Pnoy ay pikon, di naman namemersonal. Insensitive kasi un eh! lol

 

maybe because she does not want to dignify a bare accusation...

he who accuses must prove.... that is always the rule...

 

 

Maybe. Or maybe because totoo at ayaw niyang lumaki pa. Maybe napagsabihan nung lover na wag patulan dahil baka sya mapatay pag nalamang meron ngang link sa droga. Its just so out of her character. The usual De Lima I expect would be like this:

 

" I Strongly condemned your allegations about my drug involvement and dare you to produce evidences and investigate me, I am not afraid of you"

 

kaso naging paawa effect.. anyare??

 

 

kung insensitive si Pnoy... what more yung tumatawag sa isang diplomat na bakla at bwisit??

again, you missed my second point... he who accuses must prove... de lima has the right to keep quiet...

parang si digong lang nung inilabas yung BPI account nya, bakit ayaw mag waiver ng bank secrecy???

 

everybody knows that its not just check and balance ang habol ni de lima kundi pati publicity. she has a looonnggg history of making such noises para magpapansin but in the end, puro intro lang hindi naman natatapos.

 

tao lang din si Digong, sabi nga niya, nagtitimpi na sya ng matagal kaya ayaw niya pangalanan pero sige pa rin sa tirada kaya ayun, hindi na niya napigilan. parang di mo kilalang taklesa si digong.he speaks what he feels. i wonder kung bakit nagugulat ka pa sa ganyang style niya.

everybody may have a motive, like digong and his "hindi ako tatakbo" drama to make it appear na hindi sya interested when interesado naman talaga sya maging president.... kasma yan... but it is not a license to be personal about it....

kahit si Pnoy noon, you'd never hear him attack publicly a private matter of his enemies... narinig mo ba syang ikwento mga sexcapades ni Bong Revilla? No.... he attacks a public official on his faults as a public officer.... walang below the belt attack.

eh si digong? anong kinalaman ng adultery ni de lima dito?

hindi nya mapigilan? eh presidente sya ng pilipinas... he should be the first one to show constraint and chivalry... hindi ba?

 

So why is there no statement on her supposed drugs involvement? this is just plain drama and pagkuha ng simpatya at awa sa tao.. so out of her character..

maybe because she does not want to dignify a bare accusation...

he who accuses must prove.... that is always the rule...

 

Dapat sana sa senate inquiry na ito, si Sen. Lacson na lang mamuno. Mas qualified sya bilang dating PNP chief. At least mas ma-expect mo na alam nya itatanong sa pulis regarding ano mang lapses ng procedure.

 

Actually kung titignan, tama din si Digong dito. Sya yun laging nasa recieving end ng political at legal harassment. Naalala nyo ba nung sobrang pina-power trip ito ni De Lima? Tag team pa sila noon ni Etha Rosales. Kung ano anong character assassination din ginawa ni De Lima sa taong ito. Matagal ng sinabi sa kanya na huwag masyado problemahin si Duterte at ayusin nya problema sa Bilibid. Harinawa tama si Digong. And let us not forget, kung ano anong dirty tricks ginawa ng partidong Liberal nung election sirain lang sya.

 

Tama ka showbiz talaga si De Lima ever since. Nag ice bucket challenge, kinastigo yun mismong judge na di pumabor kay vhong navarro. San ka makakakita nyan lol. KSP talaga si De Lima. Ayan tuloy nakahanap sya katapat.

 

Matagal ko ng sinasabi anong karapatan nya mangimbestiga samantalang sya nga itong napakaraming dapat sagutin.

character assassination in what sense? in investigating him for his role sa DDS? hindi ba trabaho ni leila yun sa SOJ?

kung character assassination yan... mas lalong character assassination din yung kay corona, JPE, Jinggoy, Bong Revilla and even Binay.... hindi ba? pero never mo narinig si de lima banatan sila on their private lives.

leila de lima is not my favorite person... tama ka KSP na kung KSP.... pero is it worth na yung president titirahin ang bedroom activities nya??? foul yun...

 

Di na naman ito bago. Matagal na batuhan ng putik sa history ng pulitika natin. Matagal na ang political harassment. Di pa nga naging presidente si Duterte he has consistantly been on the receiving end. GUmastos pa nga liberal para sa commercial ni Trillanes di ba?

 

Nagkataon lang, aminadong butangero yun binangga nila at mas magaling mangbato ng baho kung ganun din lang labanan.

 

Tawag dyan, nakahanap katapat. lol

even the ads against digong are against his supposed involvement in the killings (which still remain an issue until now)... sino ba ang mahilig magsabi na "papatayin ko kayo?" ang then you call the accusations of killing by duterte character assassination?

 

Abuse of power daw nga sabi ni De Lima. Pero di ba nung sya DOJ secretary tinatadtad din ng kaso yan si Duterte. And hinarap naman yan ng buong tapang. Sabi nga noon ni Duterte, mina-ma'am nya pa yan si De Lima kahit sya senior sa university nila.

 

What goes around comes around. Lahat ng binibintang ni De Lima, ginawa nya din dati kay Digong. Nga lang, mas butangero si Digong.

and you are proud to have a president na Butangero?

that even the UN na andami nating pinakinabang dun eh inaaway?

bigla ata tayong naging sensitive, samantalang nung eleksyon eh halos lahat ng kandidato may name calling sa bawat isa.

 

tapos sasabihin, hindi na eleksyon ngayon. does not matter, dahil nasabi mo na at narinig na yun ng tao eleksyon o hinde.

 

patas lang.. lahat ginagawa ito

 

wait wait wait.. im not saying that this is correct, i am just being ready for "biglang naging sensitive" posts

tapos na elections... may nanalo na... tapos na ang personalan.... it is about time we do what is good for the country....

de lima is just doing a check and balance on duterte.... and he goes personal on her?

no wonder like his followers esp in social media, instead of addressing the issues, ad hominem ang attacks.

 

It happens, like Pnoy's claim of Abu sayaff's kidnap plan to Kris A. (to hell with that)

Pres Du30 even said HE OWNS evidences about her (De Lima)

 

kawawa naman si De Lima, naiiyak na sa interview...

uhmmm.... apples and oranges.... wala namang personal attack si Pnoy sa abu sayyaf....

in fairness to Pnoy, he never resulted to personal and below the belt attacks.

Why doesn't Delima concentrate on the human rights of victims like the casino lady worker who got shot in the head? Or the SAF 44? Or the Mendiola Massacre victims?

mason, that is the job of the police..... to take care of our human rights.... the question is, who polices the police in case of abuse?

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/807080/duterte-blasts-female-senator-shes-immoral-an-adulterer

really? how cheap can he get? personal attacks,,,,, wow!!!!

and he is accusing the senator of cheating as if he was never guilty of the same thing....

 

True, those shameless Narco politicians are relying on the due process kaya alam nila na hindi sila basta basta makukulong and pwede naman sila mag bail kung makasuhan man. Kaya nga mas effective yung shoot to k*ll order na lang sa kanila as previously announced by Duterte.

then if proven later na innocent pala or walang ebidensya sa tao, bubuhayin na lang na yung na shoot-to-k*ll, tama?

Just keep bringing it up. Pwede din basta willing ka rin the other side of the coin. Marami rin ditong adik/pusher/hitmen that can victimize you.

 

bakit naman si rooster dapat kasama rin?

hindi ba pwede ikaw lang?

kumusta mga naniniwalang kaya si Duterte ang big fish?

mukhang yung shame campaign nya, wa-epek sa mga shameless.

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/577777/news/regions/leyte-town-mayor-espinosa-back-to-work

kung lahat magiging tulad nito, duterte will end up a laughing stock.

Dun sa naghahanap ng mga raid sa condo at party drugs, etong sayo (celebrity supplier from a celebrity source)

 

DJ Karen Bordador, boyfriend arrested in drug operation

http://www.rappler.com/entertainment/news/143044-radio-dj-karen-bordador-boyfriend-arrested-drug-buy-bust-operation?utm_source=Viber&utm_medium=Chat&utm_campaign=Private

 

According to a report on TV Patrol, approximately P3 million worth of ecstasy, marijuana, and marijuana oil were found at a condo unit in Pasig City on Saturday, August 13. Also found at the unit were drug paraphernalia, money, and a money counting machine.

sir, wala naman nagsasabi na bawal manghuli ng mga pushers.... wala naman kumokontra sa drive against drugs... basta ilagay sa batas... walang extra judicial killings, walang shoot to k*ll order, walang pananakot.... gawin ng tama

in the bordador case, kudos sa mga pulis who did the proper thing.... it just shows na pwede gawin without violence.

Tanginang yan naghahanap ng butas ara makabalik epal

bilis mo naman manghusga... kita mo naman sa photo na nakaupo lang yung tao sa tabi....

huwaw!

http://manila.coconuts.co/2016/08/13/panelo-we-filipinos-have-no-right-question-duterte-now

Dont you just love Atty Panelo?

“We Filipinos as voters heard that and accepted that, and we gave him the mandate. Therefore I think, especially those who voted for him, have no right to question him now, having given him the authority to do that,” Panelo was quoted in an ABS-CBN report.

 

https://www.facebook.com/NaDuterte/videos/1077704555600266/

the most difficult job on earth now... being duterte's spokesman

He was making bad jokes, cursing, and was everything a statesman isn't during the campaign, yet, Rody won by a landslide. It's not what comes out of his mouth but what he does for the country that makes people respect him.

reminds me of hitler.

Duterte ends word war, apologizes to Sereno

http://digitaledition.philstar.com/articles/2016-08-12/news/duterte-ends-word-war-apologizes-to-sereno/163255

 

President Rodrigo Duterte on Thursday (August 11) apologized to Chief Justice Maria Lourdes Sereno for the harsh words he uttered.

In a press conference in Davao City late Thursday night, Duterte said the harsh words were never intended.

“I get tangled with the Chief Justice. I would apologize to the Chief Justice for the harsh words. Those were never intended,” Duterte said.

“But ako kasi, because of the magnitude of the problem, it was my way of solving the problem within the ambit of my powers as the president,” he added.

 

Just the right thing to do Mr. President ...

its De Lima.. Very obvious.. stop hating Leni..

 

 

well said teddy

 

the irony on the "thinking" aspect.... he goes bezerk on cereno and then says sorry.... so much about a "THINKING" president....

to add: is it "thinking" to call the US ambassador :"bakla" and "bwiset" and to call the Chinese "gago" in public?

I like your analogy sir. Si pdigong ang matinding anti cancer drug. Syempre kung matindi yung gamot eh may "side effects" din yan. Pero kung magagamot naman yung kanser eh ok na yung "side effects" na yan. Tingin nyo if iba ang nanalo eh mapapansin ba ang malaking problema ng bayan natin sa droga?

oo, problema nga ang drugs, pero hindi lang yun ang problema ng bayan.... musta ang smuggling, me nasampolan na ba? o smokescreen lang ang drug war para happy happy ang smugglers (parang sa davao lang noon na bagsakan ng smuggled rice)?

it is a good time to be a smuggler now.

Its just saying drop the whole anti drug operation kasi it wil never be a 100% perfect. Wow ang galing. Even with due process is not 100% perfect.Nothing is. Baka nga mas mataas pa ang % of accuracy ng drug list kesa sa decision ng mga hukom natin.

 

I guess lahat ng ginagawa niyo sa buhay is 100% accurate or else you won't do it at all. If this is the case dapat wala ng surgeon sa mundo kasi there is always a risk that you will die in the operating table even how low the % is.

wow! wala kami sinabi na drop the whole thing... sabi namin gawing tama......

kung krimen ang drugs, krimen din ang pagpatay... walang diperensya yun.....

oo, hindi 100% accurate ang due process, pero yan ang batas..... mag due process ka na lang kesa gumawa ng panibagong krmien.

naiintindihan mo yung point dun?

 

SO many times I asked you this pero iniiwasan. How would you and Jopoc understand?. You never lived in this kind of area. Ang sarap ng nakatira sa well secure area di ba?

 

The neighborhood would know if tama yung namatay or not so sila yung unang magrereact hindi ang mga CHR. So far may 2out of 2 na kami ditong tama. Tignan ko lang kung may susuporta dyan sa mga human rights advocate an possible witnesss dyan aside from the victims family.

Gusto niyo kasi may isa lang na pumalpak itigil na ang lahat kahit may 99% accuracy kasi kawawa naman yung 1% na inosenteng nadamay.

yan ang gusto ko sa iyo... assuming... who told you that i never lived in a drug infested area?

who told you that i am living in a well-secured area now?

besides, adik lang, papatayin mo? kahit adik hindi pinapatay... nirereporma... hindi yan naging adik kung walang pagkukulang sa kanya ang magulang nya, ang iskwela nya at higit sa lahat, ANG COMMUNITY NYA(kasama kayo dun)

alam nyo pala na adik, hindi nyo tulungang magbago....

drug addiction is a psychological disorder.... most people take drugs to cope with their problems.... hindi yan krimen, hindi yan dahilan para patayin sya....

 

Wala siya sa list kundi yung mga kasama niyang nanlabanang nasa listahan na isang drug den rin ang bahay. For me accessory pa rin siya sa crime o kaya mahina siyang hindi niya lam na drug den ang tinutuluyan niya?

 

Like I said ang nasasampolan is pepeated drug offenders na nasa list. Wala namn ako sa list. And tapos na ang Oplan Tokhang sa amin. Like I said in my previous post I can also arrange people in my neighborhood na pusger/addict/hitmen.

 

Like I said before you wouldn't know the effects of the drug campaign kasi you are living in an upscale neighborhood. Pero kami dito walang reklamo kahit may binaril ng 2 addict/holdaper dito (in front of their house) within walking distance sa bahay. Alam mo ba ang naging reaction sa area namin? Yung mga sigang addict na yung tinatakot ng mga taga sa amin na sila na yung susunod. Ang mga sigang adik ngayon ay nababahag na kanilang mga buntot dahil alam nila nasa listahan sila.

how sure are you that each one killed is a repeat offender?

 

 

Well sabi mo nga ... Yun batang innocente sa drugs dapat ang ginawa niya hindi dumikit at isinuplong sa pulis. Tama naman knowing mali o masama ang ginagawa ng mga ito lalu na't Criminology student ito.

 

Now going back to your 2nd statement ... alam mo may EJ killings na nangyayari, alam mo mali and yet you support Duterte and defended him on this matter.

 

Si Duterte, presidente, abugado malawak ang kaalaman sa batas, and yet siya ang may basbas ng EJ killings (to follow your logic/statement),. Di ba dapat siya ang nagpapatupad ng batas, hindi promotor ng illegal na patayan and yet wala lang?

 

Double standards o maling palusot?

in fairness to haroots he supports naman daw yung Ej killings... kailangan naman may masampolan para katakutan

pero mukhang ayaw naman nyang pumayag na maging sample.... hindi ba pwede for the greater good pumayag na lang sya?

 

You should try to understand my post as a whole. Di ba sinabi ko knowing. That's the key word to that post. Hindi lang being a criminology student but knowingly taht crimes are being commited in the house den. HIndi naman yun malaking bahay para indi mo mapansin dahil hindi lang adik kundi drug den din yung bahay.

how sure are you that he KNOWS?

anyway, lumalayo na tayo... so, yung taong pinatay, pang ilang offense nya ba? saan sya nakalista??

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sagutin mo naman.... WILLING KA BANG MAGING SAMPLE?

 

Anong generalizing people sa post ko na yan? Di ba tungkol lang yan sa isang tao na nadamay kasi nandun siya sa isang drug den na bahay?

 

 

heto yung sinasabi ko generalizing people... porket criminology student, dapat alam nyang adik mga kasama nya?

 

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/574202/news/metro/4-drug-suspects-killed-in-separate-incidents-in-manila

 

^More balance news on the incident. He is not that innocent knowing others are drug criminals. Criminology student siya, dapat nga mas alam niya na huwag dumikit sa mga drug personlalities. Moreover dapat pa nga niya ito isuplong sa pulis knowing alam niya sigurado mga gawain ng mga kasamahan niya.

 

Bakit ako ba nagsasabi ng iba iba? I dont deny ever na may EJ killings na nangyayari na may basbas sa itaas.

Again, i answered you.... may nabalitaan akong napatay na "First Offender" which in this case seems to be a non-offender pa nga.

and your argument now is that dapat sya isuplong sa pulis dahil criminology student sya, alam nya dapat na drug criminals mga kasama nya.....

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I already answered your question in my previous post.

 

and what is your answer? oo o hindi, willing ka bang gawing sample?

 

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/574202/news/metro/4-drug-suspects-killed-in-separate-incidents-in-manila

 

^More balance news on the incident. He is not that innocent knowing others are drug criminals. Criminology student siya, dapat nga mas alam niya na huwag dumikit sa mga drug personlalities. Moreover dapat pa nga niya ito isuplong sa pulis knowing alam niya sigurado mga gawain ng mga kasamahan niya.

 

 

you were asking me kung may nabalitaan akong napatay na wala listahan ng NBI... alam mo ba kung nasa listahan yung batang yun?

sabihin na natin na alam nyang drug pusher friends nya... sapat na dahilan yun para patayin sya?

ako nga law student ako noon, hindi ko alam na isa sa mga closest friends ko ay adik... nakikitulog pa ako sa house nya kung saan sila nagse-session ng tropa nya... hindi nya sinasabi sa akin kasi alam nyang magagalit ako... kung hndi lang sya nahuli ng pulis hindi ko malalaman. please, stop generalizing people and making unfounded conclusions.

Bakit ako ba nagsasabi ng iba iba? I dont deny ever na may EJ killings na nangyayari na may basbas sa itaas.

 

let me go back to the hanging question na hindi mo pa nasasagot.... willing ka bang maging sample para matakot ang iba?

 

May nabalitaan ka bang pinatay na 1st offenders? Lahat mga yan may record na sa PNP/NBI kaya nasa listahan nila. Palibhasa kasi you are living in an upscale neighborhood kaya hindi mo nararamdaman ang before and after effect ng drug campaign ni Duterte. Same here ,there are lots of pusher/addict/hitmen living in the neighborhood that I can make an arrangment.

really? who says who to k*ll and whom not to k*ll?

how sure are you that all those killed are NOT innocent?

remember this guy?

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/797470/foundation-condemns-killing-of-criminology-scholar-in-buy-bust-op

may balita ka ba kung nasa listahan sya ng NBI o anumang ahensya?

@jopoc, in your personal opinion. Do you think he would really mean it? "declare martial law?" of course he would need congress approval for it but i doubt it na yun talaga ang intention niya. kumbaga "bugso lang ng damdamin" yun para sakin. Ganun sya eh, no formalities, no pretentions, no BS, just plain common human like us.

 

If you had watched the report of Joseph Morong of GMA's State of the Nation, he and the then anchor Chino Gaston had the perfect analogy and explanation about these statements of Du3o during that moment (check it on youtube or in the news FB page)

 

Of course its wrong to say that and I dont agree na ganun ang sagot niya sa isang magalang na liham ng Chief Justice sa kanya pero, parang hindi naman natin kilala si Mr. Pres. Parang si Kris Aquino, taklesa

 

kaya siguro hindi pinatulan ni Sereno kasi ganito din ang tingin niya

so you are saying that digong will follow the law?

eh yung follow the law on apprehending criminals without killing, nasusunod ba?

yung law na bawal ang threatening to people, nasusunod nya ba?

actually, hindi yung martial law ang worry ko, yung pagsabi nya na uutusan nya lahat sa executive na hindi sumunod sa utos ng mga korte, thus creating a constitutional crisis.... kaya bang gawin yun? kaya...... hindi ka ba concerned dun?