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#21 skitz

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Posted 29 October 2010 - 08:21 AM

Ok, Jopoc, edited na kung edited. But clearly the woman was just asking that her RIGHTS be respected. Anong sagot nung labor attache? "Anong rights rights?" Tama bang sagot yun? Kahit snippet lang yun at hindi buong conversation dun palang maling mali na siya. And furthermore, kahit pa kupal na yung DH at hindi edukado (ipagpalagay na natin, pero hindi naman mukhang ganun) maski na, hindi pa rin dapat ganun ang ATTITUDE nung dapat public servant sa PUBLIKONG dapat BOSS nya.

Dapat maintindihan ng mga consulado natin na ang mga OFW na yun ay "client" nila. The reason they exist (in that position) at all is because of these (makulit na kung makulit) na mga OFW. Kung ayaw nila ng ganung trabaho, UMUWI na lang sila at dito mag-traffik aide sa Makati.

Tanong ko lang Jopoc, would you treat a client of yours that way? Kahit isang snippet lang ng conversation,were you ever that rude to a client?

Edited by skitz, 29 October 2010 - 08:28 AM.


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Posted 29 October 2010 - 09:07 AM

Makasabat lang

Hindi nga daw "Verbal Abuse", unbecoming of a Public Servant nga daw
Tama ka, madaming modest way na sagutin ung request ng OFW like "Sige hija ganito ang maaari mong gawin at heto ang mga pwedeng mangyari"

Naintindihan mo hijo?

Ok, Jopoc, edited na kung edited. But clearly the woman was just asking that her RIGHTS be respected. Anong sagot nung labor attache? "Anong rights rights?" Tama bang sagot yun? Kahit snippet lang yun at hindi buong conversation dun palang maling mali na siya. And furthermore, kahit pa kupal na yung DH at hindi edukado (ipagpalagay na natin, pero hindi naman mukhang ganun) maski na, hindi pa rin dapat ganun ang ATTITUDE nung dapat public servant sa PUBLIKONG dapat BOSS nya.

Dapat maintindihan ng mga consulado natin na ang mga OFW na yun ay "client" nila. The reason they exist (in that position) at all is because of these (makulit na kung makulit) na mga OFW. Kung ayaw nila ng ganung trabaho, UMUWI na lang sila at dito mag-traffik aide sa Makati.

Tanong ko lang Jopoc, would you treat a client of yours that way? Kahit isang snippet lang ng conversation,were you ever that rude to a client?



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Posted 30 October 2010 - 04:16 PM

maiba lang, napakabata ko pa para mamatay. ang walanghiyang scammer eh pinatay na ako sa magulang ko. Minsan nagtext sa magulang ko na namatay ako sa aksidente sa dubai. tapos humihingi ng repatriation ng katawan ko sa pinas. ung gagong un nakakataas ng dugo. nagpadala naman agad ang magulang ko kasi daw pag hindi daw naipadala ang katawan ko ng maaga under islamic law dito na daw ako ililibing. ang iniisip ko baka bukas ung ibang ofw tulad ng dh na madalas bawal mag cellphone ang ganunin nila. silang mas nakakaawa. Nahingan ang magulang ko mahigit 10thousand pesos.

mga dapat gawin bago maniwala na namatay ang kaanak sa abroad

1. tawagan ang kamag anak na sinasabing namatay
2. tawagan ang kaibigan o kaanak sa nasabing bansa para magtanong
3. tumawag sa embahada ng bansa kung saan andoon ang kamg anak na sinasabing namatay dahil pag may pinoy na namatay sa ibang bansa madalas na itinatawa sa embahada ang namatay.

wag maniwala sa basta text at tawag lang ng ibang tao.

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Posted 30 October 2010 - 05:51 PM

Makasabat lang

Hindi nga daw "Verbal Abuse", unbecoming of a Public Servant nga daw
Tama ka, madaming modest way na sagutin ung request ng OFW like "Sige hija ganito ang maaari mong gawin at heto ang mga pwedeng mangyari"



thanks...

iba kasi ang verbal abuse sa pagiging rude.

maaring bastos magsalita attache, maaring may dahilan kung bakit ganun sya.
ang akin lang, although mas maganda kung naging mahinahon sya, mas maigi pa rin na pakinggan at alamin natin ang buong storya bago humusga.

para maging patas lang.

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Posted 30 October 2010 - 08:05 PM

Public Service : When people in authority speaks, hear them, let them finish.... if you do not understand politely ask, ask and ask again. If you have a question to ask, ask politely
If they people ask you to explain you can do so... but if you are not sure what to say, you can keep your mouth shut
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Words or sounds expelled from a speaker can be subjective .... depending on the receiver... hindi laya subjective din ito

Institutions (govt man or private) have rules and ethics on the use of words.
One thing we also need to know is that institutions and the people withing have their rights to protect themselves.

Just like in a protest rally .... Oo na, public official na, pulis pa, Maximum tolerance na
BUT

if a crowd starts crackin, whipin, shootin..... ahhh the anti-riot squad have an answer for that

thanks...

iba kasi ang verbal abuse sa pagiging rude.

maaring bastos magsalita attache, maaring may dahilan kung bakit ganun sya.
ang akin lang, although mas maganda kung naging mahinahon sya, mas maigi pa rin na pakinggan at alamin natin ang buong storya bago humusga.

para maging patas lang.



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Posted 30 October 2010 - 11:00 PM

^^^^^^^^^^

still, rudeness is not verbal abuse.

Edited by jopoc, 30 October 2010 - 11:00 PM.


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Posted 31 October 2010 - 12:21 PM

Whatever name you give it Jopoc, bottomline is, the fcuker doesn't deserve a DIPLOMATIC POST.

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Posted 31 October 2010 - 01:19 PM

Whatever name you give it Jopoc, bottomline is, the fcuker doesn't deserve a DIPLOMATIC POST.



i will agree with you on after hearing out the whole story, i arrive at the same conclusion. mahirap mag-conclude on the basis of an edited recording.

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Posted 31 October 2010 - 01:29 PM

Fair enough Jopoc. But at the very least, the edited recording is enough cause for an investigation.

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 09:35 AM

My question is why and how was the conversation recorded?

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 11:12 AM

folks, this has been quiet for a while... but I really do think that the biggest scam which can be seen in broad daylight is the POEA... really frustrating...

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Posted 17 March 2011 - 01:31 AM

If we refer to RA 9862 Section 5 Paragraph I, we can see Verbal Abuse (repeated verbal abuse to be exact)


Uh, I think you should know that Republic Act No. 9862 is just a law establishing a high school.

http://www.chanroble...tno9862_pdf.php

Edited by boibastos, 17 March 2011 - 01:31 AM.


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Posted 08 May 2011 - 02:53 PM

sick!

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Posted 14 July 2011 - 08:16 AM

folks, this has been quiet for a while... but I really do think that the biggest scam which can be seen in broad daylight is the POEA... really frustrating...



Sad but we keep saying that OFWs are heroes and how do we treat our so called heroes? We put in a lot of regulations which cost them money even before they earn their first dollar. So the poor potential OFW borrows money for placement fees and the government adds to his woes by placing additional requirements which cost money. If we are really sincere in thinking of them as heroes, why can't we give the services for free. We were the ones who thought of the requirements in the first place.

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Posted 14 July 2011 - 09:46 AM

Sad but we keep saying that OFWs are heroes and how do we treat our so called heroes? We put in a lot of regulations which cost them money even before they earn their first dollar. So the poor potential OFW borrows money for placement fees and the government adds to his woes by placing additional requirements which cost money. If we are really sincere in thinking of them as heroes, why can't we give the services for free. We were the ones who thought of the requirements in the first place.

We? Pardon me for saying so, but our "elected officials" are pretty much greedy and conniving bastards that want to milk the people dry. On the other hand it could be our fault since we elect them from the same genetic pool of greedy and conniving bastards. Maybe we should hang them all and start fresh?

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Posted 09 August 2011 - 04:17 PM

Ok, Jopoc, edited na kung edited. But clearly the woman was just asking that her RIGHTS be respected. Anong sagot nung labor attache? "Anong rights rights?" Tama bang sagot yun? Kahit snippet lang yun at hindi buong conversation dun palang maling mali na siya. And furthermore, kahit pa kupal na yung DH at hindi edukado (ipagpalagay na natin, pero hindi naman mukhang ganun) maski na, hindi pa rin dapat ganun ang ATTITUDE nung dapat public servant sa PUBLIKONG dapat BOSS nya.

Dapat maintindihan ng mga consulado natin na ang mga OFW na yun ay "client" nila. The reason they exist (in that position) at all is because of these (makulit na kung makulit) na mga OFW. Kung ayaw nila ng ganung trabaho, UMUWI na lang sila at dito mag-traffik aide sa Makati.

Tanong ko lang Jopoc, would you treat a client of yours that way? Kahit isang snippet lang ng conversation,were you ever that rude to a client?



Please naman. Huwag silang umuwi para mag traffic. Madami na dito. Ultimo Barangay tanod and Security Guard meyroon authority sa traffick. May kasama bang accountability? Speaking of which, if you're on the north bound lane of C5 and plan to turn right on Ortigas, watch out. There is a sign that says no turn on red but if you're the first or second vehicle, you won't see a red light because it would be behind you. But if you make a mistake of turning right, there would be a group of blue boys waiting to pounce on you. What seems to intrigue me though, is at the opposite side (west bound lane of Ortigas) there is also a sign that says no loading and unloading but right at the sign is where jeepneys do it and the blue boys cannot see.

Anyway, back to Philippine embassies and consulates. Have you not noticed that very often no one is around? That they only know you are there when it is time to collect taxes from you when you renew your passport? If you make them come home and handle traffick, they might just be another blue boy.


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Posted 10 August 2011 - 05:47 PM

Sad but we keep saying that OFWs are heroes and how do we treat our so called heroes? We put in a lot of regulations which cost them money even before they earn their first dollar. So the poor potential OFW borrows money for placement fees and the government adds to his woes by placing additional requirements which cost money. If we are really sincere in thinking of them as heroes, why can't we give the services for free. We were the ones who thought of the requirements in the first place.


Is it accurate to say that the government is asking for substantial amount fees from the OFWs? I thought the country of destination is the one asking for numerous requirements plus local employment agency asking for exorbitant placement fees.

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Posted 15 August 2011 - 09:27 AM

Is it accurate to say that the government is asking for substantial amount fees from the OFWs? I thought the country of destination is the one asking for numerous requirements plus local employment agency asking for exorbitant placement fees.



The government fees are not really exorbitant. What I'm saying is that the OFWs have already paid (a lot even borrowed to pay) exhorbitant fees that the government need not put in additional requirement that cost even one peso more. If the government were really sincere in saying that OFWs are heroes, then it should not charge these heroes anymore. Let's see what would happen if there were a law that says: "if government wants to put a new requirement, it should pay for it, since it was their idea in the first place".

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Posted 18 August 2011 - 01:57 PM

What happened to the anti-smoking campaign of MMDA?

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Posted 18 August 2011 - 02:01 PM

Makasabat lang

Hindi nga daw "Verbal Abuse", unbecoming of a Public Servant nga daw
Tama ka, madaming modest way na sagutin ung request ng OFW like "Sige hija ganito ang maaari mong gawin at heto ang mga pwedeng mangyari"

Naintindihan mo hijo?



Correct. But sometimes people exaggerate a situation due to the spur of emotion.

Edited by KillTheDEVIL, 18 August 2011 - 02:03 PM.





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