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Posted 19 October 2015 - 04:29 PM

In my opinion it is more convenient or "safer" for a thera (or similar profession) to fall for a client rather than a guy who she just randomly met outside the industry. GMs are more capable of understanding her situation and act accordingly (if the girl is lucky enough). It's stil a bit risky for the girl and there's no guarantee that the relationship will last but the acceptance is there already which makes the road easier for her. There is of course a danger that the GM is only after free unlimited sex with a young bautiful girl who is out of his league which we often hear and read on some threads. Sex is ofcourse normal and something guys are always after wether his gf works as a bank teller, teacher or thera, so there's no difference in that department. But I still want to hear the girl's stand regarding this touchy subject.


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Posted 19 October 2015 - 10:18 PM

interesting topic.

 

because of everyones input, i  remembered something that a friend said.

 

Friend 1: " hey guys i just met maria ozawa!"

Crew: "ooohhh congrats! (and then usual guy stuff)"

..

Friend 1: "she shook my hand, ugh!" 

               "i immediately washed my hand, how many d***s..."

 

..

and this was a decent guy, gentleman, wont touch someone who has a boyfriend even if the girl was the one to initiate.

 

its sad how some people no matter how smart they are and even if they have a good upbringing , can still say something like this.

 

people (me and women) should be more educated and look at this from a larger perspective and not from what... whatever it is that degrade people who work in this industry.

 

PSE's do this as a job, and they are looked down upon, but i know people who just f#&k around for free and you dont hear people bad mouthing them like that.

 

even if you look at this from a logical point of view, it makes sense, at least for me (and the numbers).

 

 

 

we are human, it is normal to fall. how many people go through with love even though they know it might hurt them in the future?

the pain is worth it, at least for those moments.


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Posted 20 October 2015 - 10:35 AM

interesting topic.

 

because of everyones input, i  remembered something that a friend said.

 

Friend 1: " hey guys i just met maria ozawa!"

Crew: "ooohhh congrats! (and then usual guy stuff)"

..

Friend 1: "she shook my hand, ugh!" 

               "i immediately washed my hand, how many d***s..."

 

..

and this was a decent guy, gentleman, wont touch someone who has a boyfriend even if the girl was the one to initiate.

 

its sad how some people no matter how smart they are and even if they have a good upbringing , can still say something like this.

 

people (me and women) should be more educated and look at this from a larger perspective and not from what... whatever it is that degrade people who work in this industry.

 

PSE's do this as a job, and they are looked down upon, but i know people who just f#&k around for free and you dont hear people bad mouthing them like that.

 

even if you look at this from a logical point of view, it makes sense, at least for me (and the numbers).

 

 

 

we are human, it is normal to fall. how many people go through with love even though they know it might hurt them in the future?

the pain is worth it, at least for those moments.

 

Just because you do not endorse these kind of relationship setup, it does not mean minamaliit dito yung babae. Yung mga linya like "tao din naman sila na me karapatan magmahal".. save it for the Aga Muhlach movies. Magandan pakingan, pero sa totoong mundo to make a relationship work, you need trust security mutual respect and most of all maturity. Anybody can fall in love, but only a mature person makes a relationship work.

 

If you wanna fall in love and be in a serious relationship, then leave the industry and start clean. Its that simple really. I mean you make sacrifices to nurture a healthy relationship.

 

Isa pa, sorry sa mga tatamaan dito, pero I have to say it prangkahan lang.

 

Nakakainis kasi yung mga taong akala mo kung sinong white knight na pinagtatangol mga babaeng nasa ganitong kalakal kunwari, pero paglipat naman sa kabilang thread sila pa bubugaw sa kanila. Kwekwento yung maruruming detalye ng serbisyo sa kanila as if parang medallion itong mga babae na kinukwintas.


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Posted 20 October 2015 - 10:46 AM

Just because you do not endorse these kind of relationship setup, it does not mean minamaliit dito yung babae. Yung mga linya like "tao din naman sila na me karapatan magmahal".. save it for the Aga Muhlach movies. Magandan pakingan, pero sa totoong mundo to make a relationship work, you need trust security mutual respect and most of all maturity. Anybody can fall in love, but only a mature person makes a relationship work.
 
If you wanna fall in love and be in a serious relationship, then leave the industry and start clean. Its that simple really. I mean you make sacrifices to nurture a healthy relationship.
 
Isa pa, sorry sa mga tatamaan dito, pero I have to say it prangkahan lang.
 
Nakakainis kasi yung mga taong akala mo kung sinong white knight na pinagtatangol mga babaeng nasa ganitong kalakal kunwari, pero paglipat naman sa kabilang thread sila pa bubugaw sa kanila. Kwekwento yung maruruming detalye ng serbisyo sa kanila as if parang medallion itong mga babae na kinukwintas.


I agree with the above discourse...

Madalas ang may semblance ng dalisay na pagtatangi at respeto sa mga babaeng ito ay yaung ginagawa sa tunay na kalagayan, at hindi ikinukwento dito sa forum. Mas malamang na ayaw nila itong malaman pa ng iba...hindi ko sinasabing lahat...kanya nga ang operative word ay madalas...

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 03:34 PM

People are often times angry of girls looking for financers or sponsors. They said, they are gold digging bitches. Well, for me nowadays, I don't see anything bad about the logic. Before, I used to disagree with this thought. I was too naive that there are loyal and faithful men. That love conquers all. But I was wrong. I was wronged many many times.

Now, it seems like I can even be proud and secured to have one. Why? It's because love nowadays are merely fantasy. We women are so vulnerable about men's false promises and we ended up expecting for the false hopes. Men use women for their pleasure and satisfaction and women let men use them for free. By expecting of the chances that "Baka mabago ko siya". We often times mistaken love for the need of companionship. Well, that's a win lose situation

I have seen the world much farther than the rest. More than cheating women, I have personally seen hundred and probably thousands of cheating men.

So as for me, men that finance women are generous and worth it. You may call me a bitch but I am jelous and proud of women that does the kink. I must commend their tactics for they have been using themselves to take care of themselves and do offer their service in exchange for the gratitude. They are practical and I must say good.

How do they do it? I don't know but from my point of view, with the generation we have, I cannot judge them anymore.



Although I don't generalize all men and women, therapists are human too. They feel the power of connection. They ofcourse experience jealousy. They feel the uttermost ego destroying thought of "I have given my best but why is he still looking for someone else?" especially if there was the spark between the two of them.

As for me, if you are really so into her, you will save her from the life and dignity destroying job. But if you are not doing anything to uplift her, then blaming her for providing a service is not for you.

You met her in that way, you know what she's doing, making her stop without you giving her security is like taking her capability of living and earning especially if she has no choice but to end up in that position.

 

 

 

Nice Reply, I like your honesty.  

 

my question is, paano if di na nagbibigay si guy ng pera,   will he still be loved?



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Posted 20 October 2015 - 04:14 PM

On the other thread "Falling for Therapist" majority of the comments seems to malign the therapists, psps and MPAs. Na kesyo mangagamit lang sila, or wag magpakatanga ang GM. (majority not all)

 

Let's hear the side of the girls. I'm sure some of them really did fall in love naman.

 

So ladies, what happened when you fell in love with a client? Did you get hurt when they availed other girls? How did you manage your relationship?

Other questions I have are

 

1.  did they tell you na hindi na sila kukuya ng iba?

 

2.  Tinanong niyo kung may asawa sila?  totoo ba ang sinagot nila?

 

3.  Galante ba sa umpisa then nagging kuripot sa dulo?

 

4.  did you go out on movie dates?

 

5.  pag nag aaway kayo , does he bring up your past job?



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Posted 20 October 2015 - 05:20 PM

I think in this situation mahirap para sa babae na umalis nalang ng kusa sa trabaho nya for the sake of love. I think for most of them mas iiral pa din ang pamilya na kelangan suportahan. I think it's safe to say that most of them are in this industry not to support their lifestyle or luho but to feed their families since madami sa kanila ang bread winner. Many of these girls are single parents who have been exposed to this kind of trade as a means to earn big (although nahirapan din magipon dahil madaming umaasa sa kanila).

A GM walking in a club or spa looking for "love" or a serious relationship is ofcourse unnatural and rare but it happens nonetheless and may mga thera din jan na pumapatol wether naiinlove din sila or nasisilaw sa mga pangako. We cannot deny the fact that most of these girls need security and/or a stable future more than anything else and it doesn't matter kung matanda or bata or hindi gwapo ang makakapag provide nito sa kanila. Sa ganyang sitwasyon madami din sa kanila ang naiipit at nahihirapan magdesisyon na umalis sa ganyang trabaho as they are also aware na hindi rin nila dapat ituloy ang ganyang profession kung may seryosong relationship sila with a guy who they consider "decent" or respectable.

To be blunt (tabi-tabi po), pera-pera lang din yan. If a guy can provide support for the girl AND her family then most of her problems are solved already and it makes it easier for her to decide wether or not she will leave sex industry ASAP. That is why hindi rin sila basta-basta pumapatol kung kanikanino lang- lalo na sa walang ability magbigay ng financial support sa kanila or masmaliit pa kita sa kanila. I hope guys are aware of this before they decide to "fall in love" with a thera or similar profession. I also hope the girls who are witnessing and experiencing the same issues can come out and share their experience para masmaliwanagan lahat.

 

I respect your opinion sir there is truth in what you said. It is convenient for a girl to leave the industry if may provider or benefactor. But for the sake of a healthy conversation, what if love is not what is convenient? Since true love rarely is what is easy.  


Edited by Cool Fool, 20 October 2015 - 05:22 PM.


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Posted 20 October 2015 - 06:43 PM

 

I respect your opinion sir there is truth in what you said. It is convenient for a girl to leave the industry if may provider or benefactor. But for the sake of a healthy conversation, what if love is not what is convenient? Since true love rarely is what is easy.  

I have read about certain MTC members (male and female) na "nainlove" and positive naman ung feedback nila. But they had to go through the eye of a needle para ma achieve nila ung relationship na meron sila ngayon. It's not impossible, but it's no cake-walk either. The big question is, is it worth it? For me, I wouldn't walk into a spa thinking na may makakarelasyon ako sa isa sa mga babaeng magbibigay ng serbisyo sakin. Ang mental state ko is, I pay someone to make me happy for a while then I walk out with a smile, that's it. Paglabas ko sa pinto ang nasa isip ko nalang is, "was it money and time well spent?". Life can be simple if you choose to stay away from comlpications.


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Posted 21 October 2015 - 09:52 AM

 
I agree with this post. From my personal experience it is folly to be in a serious relationship if for example you are working in a normal and the girl is still in the sex industry. Sacrifice is needed from both, not only from the guy. 
 
If you really love the guy, leave the industry, no ifs and buts. I'm sure that if both work hard and sacrifice for the relationship there may be a chance. Kapag may condition na aalis ako pero buhayin mo ako, nasan ang love doon?


Where is also the love when you can't support her? When you can't save her? Where you can't give her security? Where you are allowing her to whore herself just because you can't work extra or double or you can't give up your vices for her? Remember, she is whoring herself for money. To support her family. You will come. Love her and love takes sacrifices and understanding. So if you're a guy who's ok to say you love someone yet you're good with her doing hj, bj or sex with other men, are you even a man?

You are ought to work for women. To support women. If you can't do it for her, don't take her.

Nice Reply, I like your honesty.  
 
my question is, paano if di na nagbibigay si guy ng pera,   will he still be loved?

I think the other GMs have answered this very question.

I think in this situation mahirap para sa babae na umalis nalang ng kusa sa trabaho nya for the sake of love. I think for most of them mas iiral pa din ang pamilya na kelangan suportahan. I think it's safe to say that most of them are in this industry not to support their lifestyle or luho but to feed their families since madami sa kanila ang bread winner. Many of these girls are single parents who have been exposed to this kind of trade as a means to earn big (although nahirapan din magipon dahil madaming umaasa sa kanila).
A GM walking in a club or spa looking for "love" or a serious relationship is ofcourse unnatural and rare but it happens nonetheless and may mga thera din jan na pumapatol wether naiinlove din sila or nasisilaw sa mga pangako. We cannot deny the fact that most of these girls need security and/or a stable future more than anything else and it doesn't matter kung matanda or bata or hindi gwapo ang makakapag provide nito sa kanila. Sa ganyang sitwasyon madami din sa kanila ang naiipit at nahihirapan magdesisyon na umalis sa ganyang trabaho as they are also aware na hindi rin nila dapat ituloy ang ganyang profession kung may seryosong relationship sila with a guy who they consider "decent" or respectable.
To be blunt (tabi-tabi po), pera-pera lang din yan. If a guy can provide support for the girl AND her family then most of her problems are solved already and it makes it easier for her to decide wether or not she will leave sex industry ASAP. That is why hindi rin sila basta-basta pumapatol kung kanikanino lang- lalo na sa walang ability magbigay ng financial support sa kanila or masmaliit pa kita sa kanila. I hope guys are aware of this before they decide to "fall in love" with a thera or similar profession. I also hope the girls who are witnessing and experiencing the same issues can come out and share their experience para masmaliwanagan lahat.

Fierce answer. This is what I want everyone to understand.

actualy the loosing of Dignity is a two way street di lang sa babae.  If need to guy mag pay then there is something wrong with him, is it his looks, his self esteem? his nagging wife?  
 
its hard to talk about dignity while we are in this IP adress kasi we are here because ... let's face it.. there is something wrong with us.  do not be the guy to tell me that we are not in this website to look for encounters (sports daw gusto niya dito).

Mind you, there are super handsome guys who goes here. I have met a lot. There are celebrities, TV anchors and etc.

So to those being so extra careful and discreet, "showbiz?" Lol. Dinaig mo pa artista. Use VPN or igcognito. Lol!

I respect your opinion sir there is truth in what you said. It is convenient for a girl to leave the industry if may provider or benefactor. But for the sake of a healthy conversation, what if love is not what is convenient? Since true love rarely is what is easy.

The reason for support is not needed. You know why they entered the business. It's because they can't in the corporate world. Right?

I have read about certain MTC members (male and female) na "nainlove" and positive naman ung feedback nila. But they had to go through the eye of a needle para ma achieve nila ung relationship na meron sila ngayon. It's not impossible, but it's no cake-walk either. The big question is, is it worth it? For me, I wouldn't walk into a spa thinking na may makakarelasyon ako sa isa sa mga babaeng magbibigay ng serbisyo sakin. Ang mental state ko is, I pay someone to make me happy for a while then I walk out with a smile, that's it. Paglabas ko sa pinto ang nasa isip ko nalang is, "was it money and time well spent?". Life can be simple if you choose to stay away from comlpications.

This is what I have pointed out in the GM that I las responded to in the " Falling for a Therapist" thread.

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 02:37 PM

Where is also the love when you can't support her? When you can't save her? Where you can't give her security? Where you are allowing her to whore herself just because you can't work extra or double or you can't give up your vices for her? Remember, she is whoring herself for money. To support her family. You will come. Love her and love takes sacrifices and understanding. So if you're a guy who's ok to say you love someone yet you're good with her doing hj, bj or sex with other men, are you even a man?

You are ought to work for women. To support women. If you can't do it for her, don't take her.

 

Bakit parang nasa lalake lagi yung responsibilidad? Responsibilidad din ng babae na tulungan naman sarili nya. Kung talagang gusto nya maialis sarili nya dyan, sya din dapat gumawa ng steps di ba? Its not so much about the guy having the sole responsibility of supporting the woman. Of course I am all for lending a help, pero kelangan tulungan babae sarili nya at huwag umasa sa prince charming. Mamaya yung prince charming eh halimaw pala. Daming kwento ng ganyan, kung kelan inalis na sa industriya saka lumitaw ugali nung lalake na nambubugbug pala.

 

Ang dapat isipin dito, kung pinasok ng babae trabahong ito, dapat ilagay nya sa isip at puso na responsibilidad nya din alisin sarili nya dyan.

 

Obligasyon din ng lalake mahalin ang sarili nya. Unawain sure, pero di ibig sabihin nun dapat na din sya pumayag sa napakaunfair na setup. You have to meet half-way. Likewise kung talagang mahal nung babae lalake at handa sya manindigan, tulungan nya alisin sarili nya at huwag lahat iasa na lang sa lalake


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Posted 21 October 2015 - 04:25 PM

I like the title of this thread... pero parang lumayo na ang usapan..

 

I'm looking to read info direct from thera experience...in that way...we..as a GM can understand them too....

 

I hope next coming post will be that way..

 

Thanks



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Posted 21 October 2015 - 04:43 PM

repost ko lang po..........

 

photo-thumb-487714.jpeg?_r=1445317214 Posted by ♥S•I•T•T•I♡ on 16 July 2015 - 11:24 AM in Matters of the heart

Falling for a therapist and falling for a client, parehong mi ups and downs.. Positive and negative.. Ganun nmn tlga sah lht sah real life  :) pero sbe nga okay nah mgmhal and msktan.. Kesa nde maranasan mgmahal at all  :) and sbe qu nga nung cmula pah lng.. At least mi memories nah pdeng balikan  :) ngng masaya nmn aqu sobra.. So worth it ung pain pra skni  :)
 

 Posted by ♥S•I•T•T•I♡ on 15 July 2015 - 10:54 PM in Matters of the heart

:) mjo mas malaki lng tlga ng konti ang impact sah therapist. Kze sah dmi ng lalaking naeencounter everyday. Mjo mhirap nah tlga macapture ung heart ng therapist. Kze unang una mjo hirap kya mgtiwala. Nung bago pah nga lng aqu ngkakabiruan nah golden rule dw ng therapist is 'never fall for a client' eh wla mtgas ulo qu d npigilan haha. Todo todo tlga. To the point nah wla ng maitira. Kya lng siempre ending iiyak at iiyak tlga ng dugo. Siempre client un. Client. So pg wla nah. Mi possibility nah kumuha sia ibng therapist so mjo masakit tlga. So d dn tlga masisi f bqt ibng therapist nggng bato nah:) defense un. Hay ewan. Gugulo pah dn utak qu til now. Pero he is a great guy tlga. Kasalanan qu nmn tlga. Case to case basis dn. bsta bsta. As to my case. Ang ironic lng. Kze he makes me feel alive pero at the same time.. Im dying inside  :)

 

 Posted by ♥S•I•T•T•I♡ on 15 July 2015 - 11:45 PM in Matters of the heart

☺️☺️☺️

Minsan kze d lng dn tlga uubra.. Though one sided. Kze aqu lng ung ngmahal.. Super pnahalagahan nia nmn aqu before.. And inalagaan tlga.. Kya lng at the end kze 'therapist-client' relationship bihira or maliit nah chance lng tlga ung umuubra..  :) and hbng tumatagal nsasanay ndn aqu.. Minsan anjan pah dn sia pg kelangan qu.. Pero mjo distance nah sia skn.. Cguro ayw nia ndn msktan aqu.. Pero siempre ung pain andun pdn.. Ung mga what ifs,.

Ok lng nmn mgbgay ng opinion. Sna wg lng masyadong harsh. And wg nmn puro husga agd. Kze case to case dn tlga..  :)
 

 Posted by ♥S•I•T•T•I♡ on 16 July 2015 - 12:12 AM in Matters of the heart

Exactly  :) 

And to my case, he makes me feel human kze.. Ung feeling nah aq 'ako' nde bilang 'sitti' and yes the feeling is so intense.. Ung happiness, and siempre ung pain. But if i would have given a chance nah bumalik sah past. Uulitin at uulitin qu pdn kze kht panu worth the pain nman.. Bsta iba tlga.. 22 nah qu.. Pero ung 'love' nah nrmdaman qu for him and still nrrmdaman.. Iba tlga. Yeah 'intense' is the right term.. And til now. Honestly i consider him as my sanity. Hahha hanggulo..  ;)
 

 Posted by ♥S•I•T•T•I♡ on 16 July 2015 - 11:05 AM in Matters of the heart

Hihi d nmn dn nia qu niloko  :) d lng tlga npigilan and kht panu nrmdaman qu nmng pinahalgahan nia aqu.. 
Hmm yes i agree d nmn lht gms manloloko.. Ganun sah thera.. Sah lht nmn ng bagay ganun dva.. Kht nde sah spa.. Meron tlgang good and bad  :) and honestly dme qu dn ngng friends nah gms.. Mga 'emotional support' qu.. Merun pah nga aqung isang friend nah gm nah kht madaling arw natatawagan qu pg sobrang down aqu.. Hihi such a very good guy  :) and merun pah isa lagi aqu chinicheck and dnadalaw pra kmustahin.. Best buddy.. Nkktuwa kze iba iba dn tlga mkikilala dito sah industry.. Client turn to nightmare, bf, best buddy, and kung anu anu pah  :)
 

Posted by ♥S•I•T•T•I♡ on 16 July 2015 - 11:17 AM in Matters of the heart


Honestly isa dn yan sah mga what ifs qu hihi.. Ung what if wla aqu sah industry nung nkilala qu sia.. And f anu kya nrrmdaman nia pg iniisip nia ung clients qu araw araw.. Siempre masakit dn un.. So pareho tlgang nssktan..

 

(yan nalang ishare ko po ha mister mod malantod yung mga posts ko dati hhahah)

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 05:04 PM

 

repost ko lang po..........

 

photo-thumb-487714.jpeg?_r=1445317214 Posted by ♥S•I•T•T•I♡ on 16 July 2015 - 11:24 AM in Matters of the heart

Falling for a therapist and falling for a client, parehong mi ups and downs.. Positive and negative.. Ganun nmn tlga sah lht sah real life  :) pero sbe nga okay nah mgmhal and msktan.. Kesa nde maranasan mgmahal at all  :) and sbe qu nga nung cmula pah lng.. At least mi memories nah pdeng balikan  :) ngng masaya nmn aqu sobra.. So worth it ung pain pra skni  :)
 

 Posted by ♥S•I•T•T•I♡ on 15 July 2015 - 10:54 PM in Matters of the heart

:) mjo mas malaki lng tlga ng konti ang impact sah therapist. Kze sah dmi ng lalaking naeencounter everyday. Mjo mhirap nah tlga macapture ung heart ng therapist. Kze unang una mjo hirap kya mgtiwala. Nung bago pah nga lng aqu ngkakabiruan nah golden rule dw ng therapist is 'never fall for a client' eh wla mtgas ulo qu d npigilan haha. Todo todo tlga. To the point nah wla ng maitira. Kya lng siempre ending iiyak at iiyak tlga ng dugo. Siempre client un. Client. So pg wla nah. Mi possibility nah kumuha sia ibng therapist so mjo masakit tlga. So d dn tlga masisi f bqt ibng therapist nggng bato nah:) defense un. Hay ewan. Gugulo pah dn utak qu til now. Pero he is a great guy tlga. Kasalanan qu nmn tlga. Case to case basis dn. bsta bsta. As to my case. Ang ironic lng. Kze he makes me feel alive pero at the same time.. Im dying inside  :)

 

 Posted by ♥S•I•T•T•I♡ on 15 July 2015 - 11:45 PM in Matters of the heart

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Minsan kze d lng dn tlga uubra.. Though one sided. Kze aqu lng ung ngmahal.. Super pnahalagahan nia nmn aqu before.. And inalagaan tlga.. Kya lng at the end kze 'therapist-client' relationship bihira or maliit nah chance lng tlga ung umuubra..  :) and hbng tumatagal nsasanay ndn aqu.. Minsan anjan pah dn sia pg kelangan qu.. Pero mjo distance nah sia skn.. Cguro ayw nia ndn msktan aqu.. Pero siempre ung pain andun pdn.. Ung mga what ifs,.

Ok lng nmn mgbgay ng opinion. Sna wg lng masyadong harsh. And wg nmn puro husga agd. Kze case to case dn tlga..  :)
 

 Posted by ♥S•I•T•T•I♡ on 16 July 2015 - 12:12 AM in Matters of the heart

Exactly  :) 

And to my case, he makes me feel human kze.. Ung feeling nah aq 'ako' nde bilang 'sitti' and yes the feeling is so intense.. Ung happiness, and siempre ung pain. But if i would have given a chance nah bumalik sah past. Uulitin at uulitin qu pdn kze kht panu worth the pain nman.. Bsta iba tlga.. 22 nah qu.. Pero ung 'love' nah nrmdaman qu for him and still nrrmdaman.. Iba tlga. Yeah 'intense' is the right term.. And til now. Honestly i consider him as my sanity. Hahha hanggulo..  ;)
 

 Posted by ♥S•I•T•T•I♡ on 16 July 2015 - 11:05 AM in Matters of the heart

Hihi d nmn dn nia qu niloko  :) d lng tlga npigilan and kht panu nrmdaman qu nmng pinahalgahan nia aqu.. 
Hmm yes i agree d nmn lht gms manloloko.. Ganun sah thera.. Sah lht nmn ng bagay ganun dva.. Kht nde sah spa.. Meron tlgang good and bad  :) and honestly dme qu dn ngng friends nah gms.. Mga 'emotional support' qu.. Merun pah nga aqung isang friend nah gm nah kht madaling arw natatawagan qu pg sobrang down aqu.. Hihi such a very good guy  :) and merun pah isa lagi aqu chinicheck and dnadalaw pra kmustahin.. Best buddy.. Nkktuwa kze iba iba dn tlga mkikilala dito sah industry.. Client turn to nightmare, bf, best buddy, and kung anu anu pah  :)
 

Posted by ♥S•I•T•T•I♡ on 16 July 2015 - 11:17 AM in Matters of the heart


Honestly isa dn yan sah mga what ifs qu hihi.. Ung what if wla aqu sah industry nung nkilala qu sia.. And f anu kya nrrmdaman nia pg iniisip nia ung clients qu araw araw.. Siempre masakit dn un.. So pareho tlgang nssktan..

 

 

 

Salamat sa pagshare ng experience mo. Though mejo nalinawan ako based sa mga sinulat mo may mga iba pakong tanong kung okay lang sau. First of all, did you consider quitting your job and finding something else to do para kumita everytime you find yourself in a serious relationship?  nagsuggest ba ung partner mo na iwan mo na ung trabaho mo? If so, what's stopping you? How do you see yourself 10 years from now? Sensya na dami tanong, hehe.



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Posted 21 October 2015 - 05:44 PM

Salamat sa pagshare ng experience mo. Though mejo nalinawan ako based sa mga sinulat mo may mga iba pakong tanong kung okay lang sau. First of all, did you consider quitting your job and finding something else to do para kumita everytime you find yourself in a serious relationship?  nagsuggest ba ung partner mo na iwan mo na ung trabaho mo? If so, what's stopping you? How do you see yourself 10 years from now? Sensya na dami tanong, hehe.

 

Salamat sa pagshare ng experience mo. Though mejo nalinawan ako based sa mga sinulat mo may mga iba pakong tanong kung okay lang sau. First of all, did you consider quitting your job and finding something else to do para kumita everytime you find yourself in a serious relationship?  nagsuggest ba ung partner mo na iwan mo na ung trabaho mo? If so, what's stopping you? How do you see yourself 10 years from now? Sensya na dami tanong, hehe.

 

yep i did.. ilang times ko din po pinagplanuhang umalis... pero hindi lang din naman dahil sa kanya.. dahil din sa sarili ko... sabi nga nung client ko masyado daw self consuming tong job na to... araw araw may mababawas sa pagkatao mo.. kaso maraming nanyayari na nag papa stay pa sakin dito... for example... mga 5 months palang ako dito noon.. okay na yung ipon ko can start a business na kaso bigla nalaman ko nakasanla yung lupa namin sa province... so ginawa ko yung ipon ko na supposedly pangbusiness pinangbayad ko sa lupa... nagsuggest sya na ihelp ako.. yes.. he ask me nun how much yung need ko para umalis dito...( which is kaya naman nya ibigay kahit magkano) but i refused. call me tanga na , ipokrita or whatsoever.. but i cant accept such a big amount from him. kahit sabihing barya lang yun sa kanya... ewan.. iba lang kasi talaga yung dating sakin if tanggapin ko yun... syado lang nakakapanliit..and besides kaya ko naman kitain yun(not bragging po ha) pero what im earning here is di kayang kitain sa ibang work ng ganto kabilis kahit as manager pa... konting sakripisyo kumbaga for the bigger things in the future... im not planning to stay naman dito ng super tagal.... nag iipon lang... gusto ko kasi pag nakaalis na ako dito... alis talaga permanently... yung wala ng balikan... so for me to be able to do it... kelangan ko makaprovide ng stable na magigigng income ko pag alis ko dito..... it may take a little more time pa.. pero malapit naman na...  :wub:  :wub:  :wub: 


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Posted 21 October 2015 - 06:11 PM

Bakit parang nasa lalake lagi yung responsibilidad? Responsibilidad din ng babae na tulungan naman sarili nya. Kung talagang gusto nya maialis sarili nya dyan, sya din dapat gumawa ng steps di ba? Its not so much about the guy having the sole responsibility of supporting the woman. Of course I am all for lending a help, pero kelangan tulungan babae sarili nya at huwag umasa sa prince charming. Mamaya yung prince charming eh halimaw pala. Daming kwento ng ganyan, kung kelan inalis na sa industriya saka lumitaw ugali nung lalake na nambubugbug pala.
 
Ang dapat isipin dito, kung pinasok ng babae trabahong ito, dapat ilagay nya sa isip at puso na responsibilidad nya din alisin sarili nya dyan.
 
Obligasyon din ng lalake mahalin ang sarili nya. Unawain sure, pero di ibig sabihin nun dapat na din sya pumayag sa napakaunfair na setup. You have to meet half-way. Likewise kung talagang mahal nung babae lalake at handa sya manindigan, tulungan nya alisin sarili nya at huwag lahat iasa na lang sa lalake


Paki basa ang ibang posts ko para maging malinaw sayo ang lahat. Ayan ha. Tagalog ko nang sinasagot. Bakit parang NASA lalaki ang responsibilidad? Eh natural! Babae ba ang nag popropose? Kung tingin mo kaya ng halos lahat ng babae sa industriyang ito na umalis sa industriyang ito para lang tumayo sa sa sarili niyang paa dahil ung lalaking pinili nya ay wala namang sense of responsibility, ano un? Titi lang ang kakainin niya araw araw at ipapakain niya sa pamilya nya? Kaya sila nandito sa industry na ito dahil madalas sa kanila ay un lang ang kayang gawin. If they can do other job that can financially support their family, do you think masarap ang pag sasaan ng mga lalaki? Ng ibat ibang lalaki?

Usually, galing sa slams at hirap ang mga theras. Masakit man isipin but because of that, maledukado, walang natapos o di kaya di kayang magtrabaho sa corporate world. Unless as I HAVE SAID, SUPORTAHAN NG LALAKI. Kung bibigyan mo din naman ng pera pang start ng negosyo, as long as she cant manage it, it's useless. Pero lilinawin ko ulit, Hindi naman lahat. There are exemptions naman. But we are not heartless.

At kung ayaw mo na ganito ang sitwasyon, wag kang pumunta sa spa or club na ang intensyon mo ay mag hanap ng ibabahay o makakasama sa buhay. Manligaw ka na lang ng iba. Yung mga babaeng kayang magtrabaho nang Hindi ginagawang p#ta ang sarili para lang buhayin ang pamilya.

Sorry for the words. Hindi ako nangaaway, I am just fierce, blunt, honest and lastly real.

Admittedly I am not rich. I am merely a BPO trainer, not rich, although I am earning more than most people in our office. Working double to support a woman? I am already working my ass off. Being an employee in the BPO industry is not easy. 
 
You say I ought to work for women to support them financially? This is not why I signed a job offer. I work grueling hours to make a living so I can have a better future, be a better person and survive day to day. I can be a guy worth loving though not a sugar daddy.


Then don't come in a spa or in a bar to find love or at least with an intension to get serious with one of the girls that you'll meet there. Those places have women who are usualy incapable of living through paycheck. We are talking about paid women here. Not a regular lady. Although paid women are not heartless but they will definitely need all the support.

So if you think it would be easy for them to get out of the industry just to exclusively be yours knowing that most of them is incapable of working as a white colarred personels, think twice. Most of them are in this industry because this is the only way they can earn. Again, I'm not saying that all the women in this industry are like what I described but honestly, about 80-90% are. These women are in need of money to support their family and giving up their job just for you without you being a man to support her is unfair. You're taking her life out. My suggedtion find a woman who's not from this industry for they only need a man who can understand their and their family's need.


And lastly, you're from a BPO company? Don't worry. Been there and all I can say is, I got my CCNA and CCNP credentials through sponsored promotions. I do have a position when I was there a few years ago. I earned it without being a kissed ass. I reviewed for my other credentials, working and while doing some other stuffs all at the same time. I earn quite well yet I never closed my doors for opportunities. I am so much busy for I have my own other rakets and business deals yet, I always have time for myself and my family. You may be lacking time management. So don't whine about working your ass off for another individual. Many people are working their ass more than you and don't rant. Whining are for women.


I like the title of this thread... pero parang lumayo na ang usapan..
 
I'm looking to read info direct from thera experience...in that way...we..as a GM can understand them too....
 
I hope next coming post will be that way..
 
Thanks


Don't worry, the speaker are taking reservations as we speak.

yep i did.. ilang times ko din po pinagplanuhang umalis... pero hindi lang din naman dahil sa kanya.. dahil din sa sarili ko... sabi nga nung client ko masyado daw self consuming tong job na to... araw araw may mababawas sa pagkatao mo.. kaso maraming nanyayari na nag papa stay pa sakin dito... for example... mga 5 months palang ako dito noon.. okay na yung ipon ko can start a business na kaso bigla nalaman ko nakasanla yung lupa namin sa province... so ginawa ko yung ipon ko na supposedly pangbusiness pinangbayad ko sa lupa... nagsuggest sya na ihelp ako.. yes.. he ask me nun how much yung need ko para umalis dito...( which is kaya naman nya ibigay kahit magkano) but i refused. call me tanga na , ipokrita or whatsoever.. but i cant accept such a big amount from him. kahit sabihing barya lang yun sa kanya... ewan.. iba lang kasi talaga yung dating sakin if tanggapin ko yun... syado lang nakakapanliit..and besides kaya ko naman kitain yun(not bragging po ha) pero what im earning here is di kayang kitain sa ibang work ng ganto kabilis kahit as manager pa... konting sakripisyo kumbaga for the bigger things in the future... im not planning to stay naman dito ng super tagal.... nag iipon lang... gusto ko kasi pag nakaalis na ako dito... alis talaga permanently... yung wala ng balikan... so for me to be able to do it... kelangan ko makaprovide ng stable na magigigng income ko pag alis ko dito..... it may take a little more time pa.. pero malapit naman na...  :wub:  :wub:  :wub: 


Bawat araw may nababawas sa pagkatao.

Words that I have to agree and salute.

God bless you.
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Posted 21 October 2015 - 06:16 PM

 

 

 

yep i did.. ilang times ko din po pinagplanuhang umalis... pero hindi lang din naman dahil sa kanya.. dahil din sa sarili ko... sabi nga nung client ko masyado daw self consuming tong job na to... araw araw may mababawas sa pagkatao mo.. kaso maraming nanyayari na nag papa stay pa sakin dito... for example... mga 5 months palang ako dito noon.. okay na yung ipon ko can start a business na kaso bigla nalaman ko nakasanla yung lupa namin sa province... so ginawa ko yung ipon ko na supposedly pangbusiness pinangbayad ko sa lupa... nagsuggest sya na ihelp ako.. yes.. he ask me nun how much yung need ko para umalis dito...( which is kaya naman nya ibigay kahit magkano) but i refused. call me tanga na , ipokrita or whatsoever.. but i cant accept such a big amount from him. kahit sabihing barya lang yun sa kanya... ewan.. iba lang kasi talaga yung dating sakin if tanggapin ko yun... syado lang nakakapanliit..and besides kaya ko naman kitain yun(not bragging po ha) pero what im earning here is di kayang kitain sa ibang work ng ganto kabilis kahit as manager pa... konting sakripisyo kumbaga for the bigger things in the future... im not planning to stay naman dito ng super tagal.... nag iipon lang... gusto ko kasi pag nakaalis na ako dito... alis talaga permanently... yung wala ng balikan... so for me to be able to do it... kelangan ko makaprovide ng stable na magigigng income ko pag alis ko dito..... it make take a little more time pa.. pero malapit naman na...  :wub:  :wub:  :wub: 

 

Nice... Thank you sooo much for answering. Good to know na alam mo hinahanap mo and you know how to get it, mejo unconventional para sa iba pero lets face it, sa hirap ng buhay sa Pinas it's not easy finding opportunities na makaka uplift sa buhay natin and at the same time, trabaho na masasabi mong "marangal" (sa standards ng ordinaryong mamamayan). Nowadays I suppose ang dignity or self-worth ng isang tao ay dimo na basta basta masusukat sa klase ng hanap buhay nya pero sa SAKRIPISYO na inaalay nya para sa mga mahal nya sa buhay. Ofcourse we need to draw a line somewhere kahit na sabihin natin na we're doing it for our families... sometimes it's not always a good excuse especially in the eyes of the law. Pero kudos to you ma'm for knowing right and wrong and making it clear na you're doing something to change your life for a bright future.


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Posted 21 October 2015 - 06:21 PM

Interesting views and opinions...

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 06:22 PM

I like the title of this thread... pero parang lumayo na ang usapan..

 

I'm looking to read info direct from thera experience...in that way...we..as a GM can understand them too....

 

I hope next coming post will be that way..

 

Thanks

I agree with you sir... Parang nawala na yung point of the thread...

 

Personally, I am thinking most theras, and this just me, and I am not saying all, but most, know the work they are in, and already have walls around them protecting them from this sort of thing... And I am sure, the newbies are also taught by the ones who introduced them to the industry also..

 

But of course, as usual I may be wrong...

 

Peace!!!  :)


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Posted 21 October 2015 - 07:16 PM

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I like the title of this thread... pero parang lumayo na ang usapan..

 

I'm looking to read info direct from thera experience...in that way...we..as a GM can understand them too....

 

I hope next coming post will be that way..

 

Thanks

 

That is the exact intention of this thread, more Thera's perspective, less from GMs (although still appreciated lalo na kung constructive) In this thread, mas bida ang Therapists.

Sabihin na nating one-sided pero I'll be deleting GM comments if it is about WHAT THEY THINK a Thera's motivation is. That is kinda off topic no? Fair enough?

 

The ladies' comments are hopefully based on experience. We want to know what it feels like from their side, their motivation etc.

 

I'll be checking this thread regularly. Game. :P :D B)


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Posted 22 October 2015 - 08:13 AM

 

 

 

yep i did.. ilang times ko din po pinagplanuhang umalis... pero hindi lang din naman dahil sa kanya.. dahil din sa sarili ko... sabi nga nung client ko masyado daw self consuming tong job na to... araw araw may mababawas sa pagkatao mo.. kaso maraming nanyayari na nag papa stay pa sakin dito... for example... mga 5 months palang ako dito noon.. okay na yung ipon ko can start a business na kaso bigla nalaman ko nakasanla yung lupa namin sa province... so ginawa ko yung ipon ko na supposedly pangbusiness pinangbayad ko sa lupa... nagsuggest sya na ihelp ako.. yes.. he ask me nun how much yung need ko para umalis dito...( which is kaya naman nya ibigay kahit magkano) but i refused. call me tanga na , ipokrita or whatsoever.. but i cant accept such a big amount from him. kahit sabihing barya lang yun sa kanya... ewan.. iba lang kasi talaga yung dating sakin if tanggapin ko yun... syado lang nakakapanliit..and besides kaya ko naman kitain yun(not bragging po ha) pero what im earning here is di kayang kitain sa ibang work ng ganto kabilis kahit as manager pa... konting sakripisyo kumbaga for the bigger things in the future... im not planning to stay naman dito ng super tagal.... nag iipon lang... gusto ko kasi pag nakaalis na ako dito... alis talaga permanently... yung wala ng balikan... so for me to be able to do it... kelangan ko makaprovide ng stable na magigigng income ko pag alis ko dito..... it may take a little more time pa.. pero malapit naman na...  :wub:  :wub:  :wub: 

 

:)  push it.. do it for yourself not for anyone.. It was sad when you are in focus and determined to change your life but somethings bother us that we can't control.. like you said about your province... but don't look back and move forward, push yourself for a greater goal.... :wub:







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