mr. john Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 Results will vary from one user to another. Base on my experience though, I'd honestly say that it's really hard to pinpoint wether or not "fat-burner/s" are the major factor in a succesful cutting phase. Please take note that the goal here is to limit calorie intake while striving to increase workout intensity. I'd say 60% of your success will rely on what you're diet is, 30% on your workout regimen and 10% for the supplement support. Again, I see fat-burners as more of an energy support rather than a metabolism support supplement. Moreover, some people think of it as a motivational tool. Now, regardless of what your decision may be, I'd say have your diet check first and strive to up your intensity. If you can afford it, I'd say Hydroxycut Hardcore would be a good choice. Boxing, like any other activity, is a great cardio vascular workout. Go ahead and and complement this activity with your workout. Just don't forget that your body also needs to rest and recuperate. Strive to have a day or 2 off from physical activity. For the excess skin, it's not really excess for that matter but skin that was over-stretched the time you had a bigger waistline. This is the problem of many obese people who suddenly drop weight, leaving the skin sagging with stretch marks all over. People who undergo surgery to correct this problem are really in the extremes... meaning they were as heavy as 250-300 lbs or more. So imagine the loose skin they are carrying. In your case, I don't think it's really neccesarry. If I may suggest, try going to your dermatologist or just consult a comstic doctor who can suggest njon-invasive procedures to correct/tighten the skin around the area. These are only my opinions bro. Hope it will help. tnx! might as well try using hydroxy ..tnx! btw,im planing my workout sched. how about this weekly sched? tnx m- weightstue-boxingwed-weightsthu-boxingfriday-weightssat-restsun-rest Quote Link to comment
Olympus Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 mr. john, Just remember that there are no magic bullets or secret techniques that will deliver results in an instant. Quote Link to comment
Wowiezzzy Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 mr. john, Just remember that there are no magic bullets or secret techniques that will deliver results in an instant. Yan ang pinakatotoo na tips regarding sa supplement gumagana sila oo pero kelangan talaga unang una consistency sa training then diet then cardio Pero pinakamalaking factor genetics kung pinanganak kang may muscle congrats sayo pero kung tulad ka namen na mahina genetics diet train cardio talaga plus nalang ang supplements With regards sa snacks mu wag puro saging pre baka maempacho ka dapat either fiber or protein ako snaks ko eggs eh ingat lang sa over ka sa protein dahil magdedevelop ng protein gut may separation at definition pero may bulge check mu net With regards sa fatburners ang na try ko eto Xenadrine NRG, Ripped Fuel Extreme, Hydroxycut, Hydroxy Cut Hardcore For Weight loss = Xenadrine malakas makababa timbang di ka gaano jittery tho kumakaen muscle massFor Separation Abs= Ripped Fuel tho medyo matubig makita mu may mass ka and maepektib sa tyanFor Best Results = Hydroxycut pero magastos at mabilis maubos kasi up to 6 or 9 tabs sencya di ko na malala at jittery ka sobraHYdro Hardcore = My comment di na ko ulit di ko kinaya ang jitters parang high ako hahahahah Lahat yung results with cardio plus diest yun inde strict pero with diet bihira ako mag rice if ever red rice usually oatmeals Results mag appear yan 1-2 months atleast and sa 2nd pack pa yan well yun yung sakin ah Tips pare = Feel the Pain wala tatalo NO PAIN NO GAIN TALAGA! Pain sa part na tinitrain mu ah hehehehe inde back pain or neck pain plus rest kahit si GOD nga nag break hehehe Tapos experiment pre hanapin mu pinakasuitable sa katawan mu na program try mu anu pinaka maganda reaksyon katawan mu kasi di dahil effective sakin effective din sayutry lang pare makikita naman sa salamin san mas "warak" ang dating mu eh. Tapos sa program atleast i mix-up mu routine mo once in a while kunyare 1nce a week bench press ka minsan palitan mu ng dumbell press makikita mu yung definition nyan in time Cencya sa haba ah hehehehehe COnsistency lang dre sa totoo lang Wala talagang SECRET NA BIGLA mu makuha katawan na gusto mu Quote Link to comment
Olympus Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 Tips pare = Feel the Pain wala tatalo NO PAIN NO GAIN TALAGA! Pain sa part na tinitrain mu ah hehehehe inde back pain or neck pain plus rest kahit si GOD nga nag break hehehe And this is why i have seen so many people get stuck in a rut. Performance over pain. Aoreness is not a good indicator of an effective workout. So many people look for ain instead of thinking of improving their total work done, if they got stronger or what not. Tapos sa program atleast i mix-up mu routine mo once in a while kunyare 1nce a week bench press ka minsan palitan mu ng dumbell press makikita mu yung definition nyan in time Definition is achieved through dieting and lowering bodyfat, not by doing certain exercises. You need to give a system a bare minimum of 6 weeks in order to get results. For Weight loss = Xenadrine malakas makababa timbang di ka gaano jittery tho kumakaen muscle massFor Separation Abs= Ripped Fuel tho medyo matubig makita mu may mass ka and maepektib sa tyanFor Best Results = Hydroxycut pero magastos at mabilis maubos kasi up to 6 or 9 tabs sencya di ko na malala at jittery ka sobraHYdro Hardcore = My comment di na ko ulit di ko kinaya ang jitters parang high ako hahahahah These are all the same, they have the same contents, what you are having is more of a placebo effect more than anything. Quote Link to comment
id6230 Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 My advise would be not to take supplements. I am always weary of introducing anything synthetic in nature to my body. There is always a possibility of getting addicted once you start taking it. Quote Link to comment
Wowiezzzy Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 (edited) And this is why i have seen so many people get stuck in a rut. Performance over pain. Aoreness is not a good indicator of an effective workout. So many people look for ain instead of thinking of improving their total work done, if they got stronger or what not.Definition is achieved through dieting and lowering bodyfat, not by doing certain exercises. You need to give a system a bare minimum of 6 weeks in order to get results.These are all the same, they have the same contents, what you are having is more of a placebo effect more than anything. yes what i meant was to see the full muscle definition and separtion for example the delts front middle back you could see each muscle group of the delt and you could not make em appear by just doing only military presses i was emphasisizing the difference between compound excercises and isolation thats what imeant and not lowering body fat by definition maybe my use of the term definition is wrong. With regards to the supplements yup maybe it was really placebo effect but that was my experience while taking those its really different with other brands maybe due to different ingredients or its just me WITH the NO PAIN NO GAIN i still believe yup it was badly understood but hey check out Arnold... No Pain NO Gain well i apply it to what part i train only naman not the after workout so i could clarify my belief in the NO PAIN NO GAIN motto i feel the pain everytime i leg raise or knee raise i make it a point that i squeeze my abs that i feel that somethings working on it hence my "pain" thats what i meant and not by pain with use of heavy weights and sacrificing my form..I prefer lighter weights with correct form PAIN COMES WITH FORM and I DONT OVERTRAIN )) well my pain that is and my opinion Still NO PAIN NO GAIN heheheheheh I love it Edited September 9, 2007 by Wowiezzzy Quote Link to comment
Olympus Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 yes what i meant was to see the full muscle definition and separtion for example the delts front middle back you could see each muscle group of the delt and you could not make em appear by just doing only military presses Actually, you can. I have seen it countless times, and just recently. Several guys who I have trained just built more muscle and managed to lower their bodyfat and have become more ripped when they were starting. One Collegiate basktball player was decently lean when we started training him, yet his definition wasn't exactly impressive. Fast forward 2 months later, he has gained 10 lbs of muscle and is even leaner... His abs and delts are clearly more defined than when he started and he doesn't do any single joint exercises WITH the NO PAIN NO GAIN i still believe yup it was badly understood but hey check out Arnold... No Pain NO Gain Arnold was known to take masive amounts of steroids. Arnold was also known to fool the media and his peers in order to have the edge. I need not go into this further. You might wanna try and lok into the book "Muscles, speed and lies" it will explain all the lies and frauds the supplement and muscle mag industry have proliferated over the years. Quote Link to comment
Wowiezzzy Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 Actually, you can. I have seen it countless times, and just recently. Several guys who I have trained just built more muscle and managed to lower their bodyfat and have become more ripped when they were starting. One Collegiate basktball player was decently lean when we started training him, yet his definition wasn't exactly impressive. Fast forward 2 months later, he has gained 10 lbs of muscle and is even leaner... His abs and delts are clearly more defined than when he started and he doesn't do any single joint exercisesArnold was known to take masive amounts of steroids. Arnold was also known to fool the media and his peers in order to have the edge. I need not go into this further. You might wanna try and lok into the book "Muscles, speed and lies" it will explain all the lies and frauds the supplement and muscle mag industry have proliferated over the years. yeah the juice Its part of the sport even not in bodybuilding who would not take something to make their job better hehehehe ill try to read on that oneBy the way where can i read up on the college players routine so i could try that workout or was he only genetically gifted Disclaimer: I do not condone nor advertise the use of "juice" i personally dont juice up myself masyadong mahirap!!!! its a commitment na kaya i give my hands up to the real HARDCORE BodybuildersThe real bodybuilders who eat lift rest as a routine seems easy but try to read on The routine is not for the meek and its not the workout its a life Remeber: No Alcohol if permitted it cant give even a slight buzz, The Pimples Why do i workout of course its for the ladies then for my health hehehehe But still respect for the real Hardcore Bodybuilders you can never say na easy way out because the routine is really HARDCORE if you wanna keep what you gained Quote Link to comment
bmsrco028 Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 Is Gluthatione a good supplement? Quote Link to comment
assasin Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 GNC mega men sports ok na sa kin complete kasi may BCAA and green tea na Quote Link to comment
BEaST-RiPPed Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 sino dito nakarinig na about FULL STRENGTH PROTEIN SHAKE gusto ko sana bumili through amazon kaso exclusive distributorship ito bka pag umorder ako hindi makarating sa akin lam mo nman ang sistema ng post opis dito Quote Link to comment
sampatsiaw Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 guys what can u say about stanazol? i heard that it would make ur "balls" smaller.is that true? Quote Link to comment
Sharbait Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 ask ko lang mga masters,im currently taking GNC weight gainer, and going to gym my question would be, can i incorporate whey protein, with my weight gainer thanx for the advance answer Quote Link to comment
Jacques Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 ask ko lang mga masters,im currently taking GNC weight gainer, and going to gym my question would be, can i incorporate whey protein, with my weight gainer thanx for the advance answer If your budget will permit you why not? :thumbsupsmiley: If you'd consider my suggestion though, I'd do it this way. Meal one: Breakfast Meal two: Half serving of weight gainer (one cup)Meal three: LunchMeal four: Half serving of weight gainer (one cup)Meal five: DinnerBefore bed time: A scoop or two of whey protein mixed with water. (One serving or 2 of whey after workout with gatorade or any carb rich drink). Meals must be 2-3 hours apart. Quote Link to comment
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