Wine-savvy

[agxo3]

very nice, pareng agxo...

so that's why when I drank the Nathanson Creek White Zinfandel last holidays, I sensed there was something not right

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Yup! I've yet to taste a good "white zin". I even saw some "white merlot"!!! WTF???? Now a good rose of zin, syrah or even merlot - THAT I'd like to sample!!!

 

As for your comment about smelling the cork - there's little to be gained from smelling the cork, unless you are suspicious that the wine may be corked or cooked. If the wine is corked, the cork will have an off smell, what I describe as "wet and fermented gym socks". Even a bit of that "corkiness" can ruin a good wine. If it's cooked (stored at an elevated temperature too long), not only will you see traces of the wine pushing its way past the cork, you may pick up on a caramel or burnt sugar kind of smell.

 

Albert

[masi]

have you heard of "absinth"? not the bar in makati but the liquor.

 

is it available in the PI? where?

[pinoy_strigoi]

Finally someone mentioned Absinthe. It is an old liquor or liquer, originally used in the 1800s It became a popular drink then and many people like Gaugin, Toulouse-Lutrec, Picasso, Hemingway, and Van Gogh used it to get a different high. I am also looking for it here but I saw a subsitute at Arellano's - which was made in France, but only has "extracts of Absinthe". The real deal is the absinthe you can get in Spain, Germany, or Czech Republic and contains wormwood extract. Interestingly, wormwood was used to purge tapeworms from people in the middle ages. The word wormwood in german is Vermouth (i.e. the italian vermouth has traces of this, that is why it is called vermouth).. If you ingest oure wormwood oil, however, you will die a horrible death. Hower, tinay amounts are ok. It is said that Van Gigh cut off his ear in an absinthe induced stupor, and presented the cut ear to his favorite prostitute as a gift.

 

The absinthe I also need to buy has at least 50 mg of Wormwood (Artemius absinthum). The thujone in wormwood produces a narcotic buzz that people like a lot. It is better than booze. Absinthe usually has 50-68% alcohol so you have to dilute it in water. If you watched Dracula by Francis Ford Coppola, Dracula put some absinthe in a glass, put a slotted spoon on top of the glass, placed a sugar cube on the spoon and poured cold water on the sugar cube. The green color changes to a milky-white.

 

Real absinthe has wormwood so you get a buzz. The so-called fake absinthe will just make you tipsy.

 

This is the hip drink of the New York set nowadays. You need at least 2-3 shots to make you fell "in the mood" for sex or otherwise. Much better than beer, although a tad expensive.

[bods1000]

Yup! I've yet to taste a good "white zin". I even saw some "white merlot"!!! WTF???? Now a good rose of zin, syrah or even merlot - THAT I'd like to sample!!!

 

As for your comment about smelling the cork - there's little to be gained from smelling the cork, unless you are suspicious that the wine may be corked or cooked. If the wine is corked, the cork will have an off smell, what I describe as "wet and fermented gym socks". Even a bit of that "corkiness" can ruin a good wine. If it's cooked (stored at an elevated temperature too long), not only will you see traces of the wine pushing its way past the cork, you may pick up on a caramel or burnt sugar kind of smell.

 

Albert

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yeah these are so-called wine conventions that turn off neophytes.

the only thing I do is to swirl the wine a little to see if it's got legs - no legs equals tepid wine...

[bods1000]

have you heard of "absinth"?  not the bar in makati but the liquor.

 

is it available in the PI? where?

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I read of absinthe only in literature - it's what drove Gauguin and Van Gogh loco

I think it's available here, pare - Zerreit of AA I think knows something about it...

[bods1000]

Finally someone mentioned Absinthe.  It is an old liquor or liquer, originally used in the 1800s It became a popular drink then and many people like Gaugin, Toulouse-Lutrec, Picasso, Hemingway, and Van Gogh used it to get a different high.  I am also looking for it here but I saw a subsitute at Arellano's - which was made in France, but only has "extracts of Absinthe".  The real deal is the absinthe you can get in Spain, Germany, or Czech Republic and contains wormwood extract. Interestingly, wormwood was used to purge tapeworms from people in the middle ages.  The word wormwood in german is Vermouth (i.e. the italian vermouth has traces of this, that is why it is called vermouth)..  If you ingest oure wormwood oil, however, you will die a horrible death.  Hower, tinay amounts are ok.  It is said that Van Gigh cut off his ear in an absinthe induced stupor, and presented the cut ear to his favorite prostitute as a gift.

 

The absinthe I also need to buy has at least 50 mg of Wormwood (Artemius absinthum).  The thujone in wormwood produces a narcotic buzz that people like a lot.  It is better than booze.  Absinthe usually has 50-68% alcohol so you have to dilute it in water.  If you watched Dracula by Francis Ford Coppola, Dracula put some absinthe in a glass, put a slotted spoon on top of the glass, placed a sugar cube on the spoon and poured cold water on the sugar cube.  The green color changes to a milky-white.

 

Real absinthe has wormwood so you get a buzz.  The so-called fake absinthe will just make you tipsy.

 

This is the hip drink of the New York set nowadays.  You need at least 2-3 shots to make you fell "in the mood"  for sex or otherwise.  Much better than beer, although a tad expensive.

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welcome to the thread!

If you backread a bit we've talked about cigars, opium, kava, etc. so you can inject any topic you like anytime

Gauguin flew into rages when he was under the spell of absinthe, and both he and Van Gogh had great and pointless fights when they were both under the influence of the drink...

[agxo3]

hey guys:

 

has anyone  of you tasted our very own MANGO WINE....

 

Mango Wine of the philippines  has enjoyed rapid expansion to meet the growing demand from locals and

 

overseas visitors alike. maNY hotel's amd resort's now a days in the visaya's offers this kind of alternative.

 

try it... you'lll surely like it...

 

boww :mtc:  :cool:

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Mango wine? I know about duhat wine (didn't like it!). Wine is nothing more than fermented fruit juice (most commonly, grape, but also berry, apple, pear......), so I guess mango is just as good a juice to ferment as any. Next chance I get, I will try it!

[Lana]

Ooooh Absinthe. The name alone is enough to intrigue me. It's a banned liquor, yes? Or at least the original formula is, since it was considered dangerous.

 

Makiki-singit lang po

[Lana]

At dahil wala akong edit button, clarify ko lang na "Absinthe WAS banned in Europe" as it was said to have detrimental effects to the nervous system (as opposed to ruining your liver with most alcoholic drinks )

 

Gauguin flew into rages when he was under the spell of absinthe, and both he and Van Gogh had great and pointless fights when they were both under the influence of the drink...

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Ahh... Ever notice how the greats were almost always drunkards? Edgar Allan Poe was a drunk, many notable literary philosophers were known to tip the bottle more than a few times and let's not forget the "artists" whose remarkable feats in the world of art were influenced by the intoxications of alcohol. Not that I really care too much about their personal lives. They make for interesting biographies and produced extraordinary literary as well as artistic expression. (Damn, kaya pala ang hirap magbasa ng philosophy. )

[bods1000]

Ooooh Absinthe. The name alone is enough to intrigue me. It's a banned liquor, yes? Or at least the original formula is, since it was considered dangerous.

 

Makiki-singit lang po

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You can make singit anytime

hi! Welcome to thread, Lana!

 

Yeah siguro diluted na yung formula ngayon ng absinthe because of its insidious effects......

[bods1000]

At dahil wala akong edit button, clarify ko lang na "Absinthe WAS banned in Europe" as it was said to have detrimental effects to the nervous system (as opposed to ruining your liver with most alcoholic drinks )

Ahh... Ever notice how the greats were almost always drunkards? Edgar Allan Poe was a drunk, many notable literary philosophers were known to tip the bottle more than a few times and let's not forget the "artists" whose remarkable feats in the world of art were influenced by the intoxications of alcohol. Not that I really care too much about their personal lives. They make for interesting biographies and produced extraordinary literary as well as artistic expression. (Damn, kaya pala ang hirap magbasa ng philosophy. )

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I didn't even try to read philosophy...I'd rather drink and get the same buzz

I think there's some creative "demon" that has to be tamed always within these artists so they took to drink.

But for most of us, it's only some carnal "beast" that has to be calmed down by some cab or shiraz

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[Guest the_eight_of_orbs]

Tried it once. poured over a sugar cube sitting on a fork right above the flute-type kinda glass. then the "alcohol-ed" sugar cube is lit up, little flaming thing, and you drink it when all the sugar falls in the green alcohol. absof**kinglutely strong.

 

very bad when mixed with tequila. very baaad. indeed.

 

I think that bottle came from Japan. NOT sure...

 

:upside:

 

MASI and BODS, i agree when you said that the old rules don't apply as much anymore. we drink as we please. if you drink often, and are conscious about what you drink and what food / cigar brings out the flavor of your wine, then you'l know when you want it, how you want it... yah know what i mean.

 

i don't care if my posts are incoherent. i just don't care anymore.

 

on that MANGO something... recently tried the MANGO RHUM i think made my the makers of Tanduay. ok lang. medyo ok with sprite. siguro okay tun if you blend it with vanilla ice cream, tapos may konting slices of ripe mango and grenadin syrup. tingin ko lang.

 

 

F u c k i'm too jologs for this thread.

 

 

have you heard of "absinth"?  not the bar in makati but the liquor.

 

is it available in the PI? where?

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[missmanners]

absinthe is available here. there are private importers, if you look hard enough or know them well enough. there's one i know of who gets it from switzerland.

 

and yes, it's the real deal. and very, very expensive.

[Lana]

Hi Eight It sounds like the kind of drink I would normally stay away from. I can't tolerate (read: don't like) strong drinks. Hanggang SanMig light lang ako But sometimes, it's good to open a nice light wine and chat with a few buddies.

 

Thanks for the welcome, bods ~.^

[Lana]

I think there's some creative "demon" that has to be tamed always within these artists so they took to drink.

But for most of us, it's only some carnal "beast" that has to be calmed down by some cab or shiraz

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Tsk tsk. *orders diet coke*