Mixed Martial Arts

[overman]

I hated the fact that brock won but i anticipated that he would.. randy i think is a little too old for brock. had the randy of two years or even a year ago fought him, things may have been different. Sure brock is big and all but he has very little technique.. ask Frank Mir about it.. speaking of Frank Mir, i think a rematch with brock would provide UFC with a good storyline. after all, mir gave brock his mma loss.

 

let us go now with the mir and nog matchup.. a match up between two of the best submission fighters in the heavyweight division. as to toughness i would go with big nog, striking.. hard to tell but maybe this should go to mir.. he grew up in a karate environment albeit he is more known for his grappling. nog has pretty decent boxing though.. submission.. about equal here but maybe a slight edge to nog.. mir's subs are all from the back, i cant remember him winning via sub when he is on top. so 2 out of 3 it should be nog. however, as what we have seen Mir have pulled a lot of surprises in his career.. remember that arm braking sub he pulled against silva for the belt and the sub he pulled against brock.. who knows maybe nog would get caught as well.. I hope Mir wins though.. i would be happy seeing him beat brock again.

 

as regards a possible match up with brock.. either miror or nog would give brock problems only because of their subs. one dimension in MMA that randy did not master. one mistake from brock and it would be over plus of course im pretty sure either of the two would prepare better to counter brock's size.. and they are both bigger than randy and possibly better suited to face brock. the problem with the randy matchup is that randy's strength was neutralized by brock, that is, his wrestling base.. against either mir or nog wrestling wont be much of an issue both guys would gladly pull lesnar to their guard and pull out some nasty subs.. and both have better than average striking..

 

what about napo.. the guy became bigger... can't wait for him to face brock as well.. heavy hands and feet.. remember cro cop, balck belt bjj and improving take down defense.. this is a matchup brock would possibly, more likely not win...

 

No need for another division.. technique will bring down size.. its just that brock was a bad match up for randy.. both wrestlers.. had you placed arlovski or barnett against lesnar... lesnar would have been in great trouble..

Edited November 19, 2008 by overman

[o0onapstero0o]

i still think its too early for lesnar to become the UFC HW Champ. i wanna see him fight gonzaga first...

[riceb0i]

Napao is now the 250lbs BJJ machine of the UFC since Werdum was cut after that loss to Junior

[maddromeo]

i think it's Nover fighting in the LW Finals

 

got a flier for viewing emailed from him

 

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is he or is he not?! because if your gonna watch the semifinals with Him this means he got out! Coz he's not fighting in the semifinals ryt!?

[riceb0i]

the taping for the fight was several months ago, i would assume that they're all out of the house and probably the one's who are fighting in the finals are already training with their respective or should i say real coaches.

 

i saw Krystof in UFC 90 i forgot who he cornered but that was him

[_eRon_]

mali nga, thiago silva nga..i was watching a replay of the sokoudjo vs machida fight, kakabwiset tlga si machida hehehe i hope he gets his ass handed to him by thiago silva hehehehehe

 

i want rampage, big nog & forrest to win

[riceb0i]

inaabangan ko yung next year, rematch ni Shogun tsaka Mark Coleman hehehe

[berserker15]

Fedor Emelianenko, M-1 welcome "superfight" with UFC's Brock Lesnar

 

by Dann Stupp on Nov 18, 2008 at 10:04 pm ET

 

In the wake up former UFC heavyweight champion Randy Couture's recent loss to Brock Lesnar, M-1 Global and WAMMA heavyweight title-holder Fedor Emelianenko have publicly stated their desire for a "superfight" between the famed Russian fighter and the UFC's new heavyweight champion.

 

M-1 today released the official statement of the proposed bout with Lesnar while Emelianenko granted interviews with select media members.

 

M-1 executive Jerry Millen and Emelianenko clarify that the fight would need to be a "co-promoted event between the UFC, M-1, and Affliction Entertainment" -- something that could be difficult given, what they argue, has been the UFC's "anti-Fedor policy."

 

Up until Couture's second-round TKO loss to Lesnar, Emelianenko and Couture had worked diligently toward their own fight. In fact, Couture cited his desire for the Emelianenko bout as one of the reasons he wanted to leave the UFC last year. The contract dispute lasted more than a year and culminated with Couture's loss to Lesnar this past weekend.

 

While Emelianenko is still open to fighting Couture, he and M-1 now also want to meet Lesnar. However, they don't feel it would be much of a contest.

 

"In a match between Fedor and Lesnar, we do not feel that at this stage Lesnar would be able to make it out of the first round," the statement read.

 

The full text of the statement can be found below. Additionally, stay tuned to MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) for our interview with Emelianenko in which he discusses Couture, Lesnar and the Russian's upcoming "Affliction: Day of Reckoning" main event with Andrei Arlovski.

 

M-1's Official Statement on Brock Lesnar's victory

 

M-1 would like to congratulate Brock Lesnar on his UFC heavyweight title victory as well as acknowledge Randy Couture's return to active competition after a layoff that lasted over a year.

 

Couture and WAMMA heavyweight champion Fedor Emelianenko had publicly acknowledged a desire to fight each other multiple times over the course of the past year. While M-1 and Fedor remain interested in a match against Couture, we would also like to publicly state for the record that we would welcome a superfight between Fedor and Lesnar that would be held as a co-promoted event between the UFC, M-1, and Affliction Entertainment.

 

We've invited the media to speak with us today to not only make it clear we would welcome a Fedor vs. Lesnar matchup but to act in a preemptive fashion to address the possibility that UFC officials will try and position Lesnar as the No. 1 heavyweight in the world, much like they have tried to use a marketing ploy to brand Anderson Silfva as the number one pound-for-pound fighter in the world.

 

In the past, UFC president Dana White and Zuffa, LLC CEO Lorenzo Fertitta have tried to claim that Fedor was "overrated" and that his "record was irrelevant." They make these claims in spite of the fact that Fedor holds career victories over UFC champions past and present. While we have tremendous respect for the contributions Mr. Fertitta and Dana have made to this sport, we do not believe they are sincere in their statements.

 

It is the position of M-1 that the UFC has adopted an anti-Fedor policy because multiple attempts to sign him have not been fruitful. For a company that has tried to market itself as the number one promotion in the world, they are unable to accept the fact that the number one fighter in the world does not reside on its roster of contracted fighters.

 

We believe that the UFC has determined that it's much more inexpensive for them to use their marketing resources to use smoke and mirrors to brand a fighter as the pound-for-pound best as opposed to actually paying the pound-for-pound best what he is truly worth on the open market.

 

While Brock Lesnar is an accomplished athlete and a talented fighter, we do not consider him to be the number one heavyweight in the world. Until someone beats him, we strongly believe that Fedor should continue to be recognized as the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world. In a match between Fedor and Lesnar, we do not feel that at this stage Lesnar would be able to make it out of the first round.

 

For those who feel our statements in regards to Fedor are self-serving, we'd like to refer you to a video interview on the website RawVegas.tv in which at his UFC 91 after-party Couture himself acknowledges that "Fedor would probably tear Brock up at this point."

 

Jerry Millen, M-1 Vice President

SOURCE: Fedor Emelianenko, M-1 welcome "superfight" with UFC's Brock Lesnar

Edited November 19, 2008 by berserker15

[kuya willie]

tama sila dyan, Fedor would tear brock in half, hehehehe

[geneticfreak]

Brock Lesnar would get murdered by Fedor Emelianenko at this point in time IMO. I say get the Fedor/Randy Fight that everyone has always wanted first and then let Randy retire once and for all. Let Brock learn and let his MMA skills grow for a year or so first before engaging Fedor. Perhaps by the time Fedor's done with Randy Brock would be better suited to fighting him.

[candycurse]

haaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy nko!!!! brock lesnar vs fedor ...kay fedor ako ...hong man choi ba un ginulpi nga agad ,tim sylvia gulpi din agad ..... need pa ni brock maghasa.... randy couture vs fedor muna talaga dapat ... mas may K si tatang randy dahil marami na sya pinagdanan na hirap.... bago manlang mag retire idol ko gus2 ko mapatunayan nya na kaya nya talaga labanan si fedor last emperor ahe!

[candycurse]

haaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy nko!!!! brock lesnar vs fedor ...kay fedor ako ...hong man choi ba un ginulpi nga agad ,tim sylvia gulpi din agad ..... need pa ni brock maghasa.... randy couture vs fedor muna talaga dapat ... mas may K si tatang randy dahil marami na sya pinagdanan na hirap.... bago manlang mag retire idol ko gus2 ko mapatunayan nya na kaya nya talaga labanan si fedor last emperor ahe!

[skittleBoy]

Brock Lesnar would get murdered by Fedor Emelianenko at this point in time IMO. I say get the Fedor/Randy Fight that everyone has always wanted first and then let Randy retire once and for all. Let Brock learn and let his MMA skills grow for a year or so first before engaging Fedor. Perhaps by the time Fedor's done with Randy Brock would be better suited to fighting him.

Fedor will destroy brock..

 

but if Fedor wants to fight brock, do it now.. mga 2 years baka halimaw na si lesnar

 

arrgghh.. i've been dying to see that fight: Fedor-Couture, sana matuloy na.

 

mali nga, thiago silva nga..i was watching a replay of the sokoudjo vs machida fight, kakabwiset tlga si machida hehehe i hope he gets his ass handed to him by thiago silva hehehehehe smile.gif

 

i want rampage, big nog & forrest to win smile.gif

 

machida, IMO is a thinking fighter. kumbaga sa giyera, he is an tactician/strategist. Unlike other fighters, let's say brock, in his fight against mir. he goes all out to destroy his opponent.

 

rampage, nog and forrest.. same here. go Noggie! :thumbsupsmiley:

[_eRon_]

he may be a tactician, but its irritating to watch machida fight, too much running & elusiveness, IMO kakairita talaga hehehe he should start engaging his opponent more often ..

 

fedor vs randy or fedor vs brock would be awesome matches, any mma fan would salivate on the chance of watching these 3 fighters in any permutation fight ..sana pumayag na si dana white & ufc, medyo madamot din kasi ufc, gusto nila sila lang makikinabang, dapat parang boxing din, golden boy promotions at si finkel eh nagjjoint promotion ng fights, dapat sa mma din

[riceb0i]

he may be a tactician, but its irritating to watch machida fight, too much running & elusiveness, IMO kakairita talaga hehehe he should start engaging his opponent more often ..

 

fedor vs randy or fedor vs brock would be awesome matches, any mma fan would salivate on the chance of watching these 3 fighters in any permutation fight ..sana pumayag na si dana white & ufc, medyo madamot din kasi ufc, gusto nila sila lang makikinabang, dapat parang boxing din, golden boy promotions at si finkel eh nagjjoint promotion ng fights, dapat sa mma din

malamang ayaw mo din sa style ni Tim Sylvia ano?

 

i question the people who say that ayaw nila sa mga fighters who fight to win intead of fighting for fighting's sake.

 

in my opinion winning in a fight is supposed to be the goal after going into a fight

 

i mean you don't go into a fight thinking of ok lang kahit matalo ako, diba you always want to end with the longer end of the stick?

 

so i guess that is what Lyoto and Tim have in common, utak ang ginagamit plus their will to win