riceb0i Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 (edited) hahaha with that win over Herring, i guess its too much hype they give Brock. okay okay Heath is a solid fighter, but what Brock said he wasn't prepared for Brock, he didn't had tapes to review, nothing to base on what would Brock do since the fight with Mir isn't exactly a good tape to review. but yeah Brock won that fight save the kneebar he tapped out of. even now someone is saying he'd like to see Brock fight Fedor, i mean if you wan't to see how easily the cookie crumbles then i'd say they should go at it. but in reality, Brock's just starting to make a name for himself, he'd not even be matched up against Napao since Gab would have a huge percentage of subbing Brock from the guard, so i would presume Brock would be fighting strikers until his BJJ gets good to a level that he can pull of subs instead of just sitting on an opponent and try to bash his head off. Edited August 12, 2008 by riceb0i Quote Link to comment
ambrosio Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 ^ Nice point bro... He still has a lot of work to do with his BJJ Quote Link to comment
JustSmile=) Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 (edited) YEY!! Philippines is on top of the list that Dana and the UFC plans to go to... UFC goes worldwide... First stop, Philippines!! Hope Dana puts an awesome card on their visit in the Philippines.. Can't wait... Edited August 12, 2008 by G_sKiLLz Quote Link to comment
TheButcher Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 YEY!! Philippines is on top of the list that Dana and the UFC plans to go to... UFC goes worldwide... First stop, Philippines!! Hope Dana puts an awesome card on their visit in the Philippines.. Can't wait... nice! sana mga top playes dalin nila dito. Quote Link to comment
geneticfreak Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 (edited) ^ Nice point bro... He still has a lot of work to do with his BJJ Well yes he does. But then again how much of how his BJJ develops will also depend on how it will fit with the way he fights. As Joe Rogan said, some guys would rather ride and GNP (guys like Tito or Randy). Brock is a former Division 1 NCAA Wrestling Champion, he 's a wrestler and that will always be his strength. As for his BJJ the most I think that he needs to develop is his submission defense and maybe that would be enough for him to win even against the toughest competition. In terms of ground control and base Brock already has that courtesy of his wrestling (He spent majority of the fight either on Herring's back or on mount if you remember). If he can keep that kind of base and posture and know how to defend submissions even the Napao's and the Nog's of the world would have a hard time with him. Keep in mind that BJJ in MMA is different. The fact that it's no gi favors Brock as there are less submissions to defend. Also it does get a lot harder to submit someone as an MMA fight wears on cause of the excess sweat (and blood). Add to that the fact that he has the first hands in the UFC to ever wear 4XL gloves and his fists can cause a lot of damage even within someone's guard. Speaking of BJJ. That Damian Meia dude is a real badass on the ground. He nearly got Jason McDonald(another talented ground specialist) in a triangle choke during the first round of their fight and eventually got him in a rear naked choke to finish him off. Edited August 13, 2008 by geneticfreak Quote Link to comment
geneticfreak Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 nice! sana mga top playes dalin nila dito. well yah, and I also do hope they do a good job promoting the event here. The first time an international fight outfit tried to do a major show here, Araneta coliseum wasn't even half full in my estimate. Quote Link to comment
Master Sardu Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 am i good in picking or what? damn, ako lang ata tama sa mga predictions dito. +1 Quote Link to comment
fatso8 Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 sana affordable tickets sa UFC.. Quote Link to comment
lestat41 Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 UFC 88: Breakthrough Main CardLight Heavyweight Bout: Chuck Liddell vs. Rashad EvansLight Heavyweight Bout: Rich Franklin vs. Matt HamillWelterweight Bout: Karo Parisyan vs. Yoshiyuki YoshidaMiddeweight Bout: Dan Henderson vs. Rousimar PalharesMiddleweight Bout: Nate Marquardt vs. Martin Kampmann Preliminary CardLightweight Bout: Thiago Tavares vs. Kurt PellegrinoWelterweight Bout: Matt Brown vs. Dong Hyun KimMiddleweight Bout: Jason Day vs. Jason Lambert[2]Light Heavyweight Bout: Tim Boetsch vs. James LeeWelterweight Bout: Roan Carneiro vs. Ryo Chonan Take your picks for the next show! :headsetsmiley: Quote Link to comment
o0onapstero0o Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 brock the killer....hehehehehe i didn't see any killing there aside of course for that wonderful spear bashing from the start of the first round. :thumbsdownsmiley: too much hype for this win! put arlovski and lesnar on the octagon and i will asure you that it'll be one heluvah fight! Quote Link to comment
riceb0i Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 (edited) YEY!! Philippines is on top of the list that Dana and the UFC plans to go to... UFC goes worldwide... First stop, Philippines!! Hope Dana puts an awesome card on their visit in the Philippines.. Can't wait...yeah, most probably Brandon would be there, and i hope he squashes his opponent here and not do a Franklin in Cincinnati Well yes he does. But then again how much of how his BJJ develops will also depend on how it will fit with the way he fights. As Joe Rogan said, some guys would rather ride and GNP (guys like Tito or Randy). Brock is a former Division 1 NCAA Wrestling Champion, he 's a wrestler and that will always be his strength. As for his BJJ the most I think that he needs to develop is his submission defense and maybe that would be enough for him to win even against the toughest competition. In terms of ground control and base Brock already has that courtesy of his wrestling (He spent majority of the fight either on Herring's back or on mount if you remember). If he can keep that kind of base and posture and know how to defend submissions even the Napao's and the Nog's of the world would have a hard time with him. Keep in mind that BJJ in MMA is different. The fact that it's no gi favors Brock as there are less submissions to defend. Also it does get a lot harder to submit someone as an MMA fight wears on cause of the excess sweat (and blood). Add to that the fact that he has the first hands in the UFC to ever wear 4XL gloves and his fists can cause a lot of damage even within someone's guard. Speaking of BJJ. That Damian Meia dude is a real badass on the ground. He nearly got Jason McDonald(another talented ground specialist) in a triangle choke during the first round of their fight and eventually got him in a rear naked choke to finish him off.of course sub defense is more based on BJJ as well, what i meant was if he'd still be complacent on his fight, even with his mass and athleticism, he'd still get subbed by a first class BJJ practioner who fights in MMA, besides those dudes would have an edge of getting in more fights in the same situation than Brock. yeah, Damian Meia is a badass, he's a BJJ Mundials champ and if i'm not mistaken he's also a ADCC champ. dude's got potential, but not quite ready for the Spider though, hope they don't rush him into fighting Silva as i don't like my favorite fighters duking it out between themselves UFC 88: Breakthrough Main CardLight Heavyweight Bout: Chuck Liddell vs. Rashad EvansLight Heavyweight Bout: Rich Franklin vs. Matt HamillWelterweight Bout: Karo Parisyan vs. Yoshiyuki YoshidaMiddeweight Bout: Dan Henderson vs. Rousimar PalharesMiddleweight Bout: Nate Marquardt vs. Martin Kampmann Preliminary CardLightweight Bout: Thiago Tavares vs. Kurt PellegrinoWelterweight Bout: Matt Brown vs. Dong Hyun KimMiddleweight Bout: Jason Day vs. Jason Lambert[2]Light Heavyweight Bout: Tim Boetsch vs. James LeeWelterweight Bout: Roan Carneiro vs. Ryo Chonan Take your picks for the next show! :headsetsmiley:i hope Chuck shuts Rashad's mouth, nah Chuck should include Rashad's eyes first time in ages that Rich would be fighting in LHW again, hope he does good in this weight classi'd love to see Karo throw another tantrum hehehehe who's that dude that Hollywood is fighting? don't know much about that fighteri hope Nate Marquardt bounces off from that loss he had last fight and beat this dude convincingly.hope they show the Chonnan fight, he's one of my favorite fighters. Edited August 13, 2008 by riceb0i Quote Link to comment
geneticfreak Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 yeah, Damian Meia is a badass, he's a BJJ Mundials champ and if i'm not mistaken he's also a ADCC champ. dude's got potential, but not quite ready for the Spider though, hope they don't rush him into fighting Silva as i don't like my favorite fighters duking it out between themselves I'd love to see Damian Meia and Rousimar Palhares in a fight. That would be a great match showcasing "slick" technical BJJ. But Rousimar got his plate full in the meantime dealing with former PRIDE Champ Dan Henderson another world class wrestler. Quote Link to comment
fatso8 Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 mag-include kaya ng Fearless or URCC vets sa UFC Phil sa prelim fights? Quote Link to comment
geneticfreak Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 mag-include kaya ng Fearless or URCC vets sa UFC Phil sa prelim fights? I think they probabbly will. :thumbsupsmiley: Quote Link to comment
hardtohandle Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 i didn't see any killing there aside of course for that wonderful spear bashing from the start of the first round. :thumbsdownsmiley: too much hype for this win! put arlovski and lesnar on the octagon and i will asure you that it'll be one heluvah fight! If its not a killing, I dont know whats the proper term for that... Nagmukhang tanga si Herring, which was the heavy favorite before the fight. Look at Herring's face, its too much of a damage the whole three rounds... Lets not equate KILLING = submission or knockout, it can be a total dismantling or dissecting of one's opponent, especially if it involves a whole lot of beating... Hype will always be part and parcel of MMA, particularly UFC. Lalo na kay Brock Lesnar, many MMA purists consider him as a "CARTOON" character in the UFC... Imagine a cartoon character wrecking havoc and inflicting pain. That is something. Regarding the UFC in the Philippines, thats another hype, hehehehe! Quote Link to comment
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