Kingkongphils Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) "With all these evidences in hand, we can now answer the question raised before: How big are Chinese SOEs? Even though their share in the economy continued to decline in the past decade, SOEs still make up a substantial part of the national economy roughly controlling 30 percent of the total secondary and tertiary assets, or over 50 percent of total industrial assets. The average size of SOEs is much bigger than their non-SOE peers, with average assets of the former equaling over 13 times of the latter." Technically they do not own most of the companies but like I said they own the strategic businesses... During the time of Marcos (napocor, meralco, nawasa, landbank, tollways, pldt, i think pal). So if state owned, if not for corruption I think Phils would have been fine. If we remember the recession, US government bailed out some companies to keep them alive. So in general government is responsible for essential stratigic businesses. Considering China is a communist country they have the burden to assist. When hongkong came back to China, that actually is when the ball started to roll for them. Edited January 8, 2018 by Kingkongphils Quote Link to comment
tk421 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Sorry, I admittedly am being petty here, but see this: Considering China is a communist country they have the burden to assist. When hongkong came back to China, that actually is when the ball started to roll for them. Quote Link to comment
Kingkongphils Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Sorry, I admittedly am being petty here, but see this: I dont get it Quote Link to comment
tk421 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Ironic. I’ll leave it at that, then. Quote Link to comment
Maykeee Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Mga bro, regarding sa "revolutionary tax", it is just the same with extortion. no more, no less. It is a criminal act. Revolutionary tax is just a money-making scheme for the CPP-NPA-NDF. We cannot consider them as paid anarchists. They are like political warlords. May struggle of political power kaya ndi pwedeng wala silang political ideology na ipaglalaban. yes, communism is much inclined as an economic ideology but you cannot detach it with politics. at yun ang brand ideology nila. Kailangang magtagumpay sa arm struggle to support their parliamentary struggle. Quote Link to comment
Kingkongphils Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) Okey whatevs. But i never said communism is bad. I just said communism is dead. And npa are paid thugs Edited January 8, 2018 by Kingkongphils Quote Link to comment
Bolj Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 As usual deskarte bulok, illegal vs legal. Hanap ibang examples, pa sample sample pa ang layu ng example. Hindi lahat ng tao dito tambay sa sa kanto, kaya ayusin mo sample mo. On topic. The CPP needs to innovate, with the social media taking the center stage people even from the provinces are starting to pick up the pace in information. Quote Link to comment
haroots2 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) As usual deskarte bulok, illegal vs legal. Hanap ibang examples, pa sample sample pa ang layu ng example. Hindi lahat ng tao dito tambay sa sa kanto, kaya ayusin mo sample mo. On topic. The CPP needs to innovate, with the social media taking the center stage people even from the provinces are starting to pick up the pace in information. Magagling din mag convince ang mga CPP to get their member.Para silang mga networking spoke person para makakumbinse Nakaka brain wash din sila ng mga maralita thru poverty injustices and inequality na naranasan ng mga mahihirap. KMU is the best in doing this job in the urban area. Edited January 9, 2018 by haroots2 1 Quote Link to comment
tk421 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 May isa ksp. Nakikisingit. Lol. If by paid thugs, you mean kumukuha sila ng pera. Yes. But if paid thugs as in you can buy off their loyalty, then no. Quote Link to comment
Kingkongphils Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) May isa ksp. Nakikisingit. Lol. If by paid thugs, you mean kumukuha sila ng pera. Yes. But if paid thugs as in you can buy off their loyalty, then no.KMU lang, babayaran mo para mag boycott ng company. Bata pa ako nyn. May isang company malapit sa amin na nag sara pano winelgahan, ka labasan hindi nmn pala empleyado na ang nakaharang sa gate.. Sino sila... You guessed it.. KMU.Illegal loggers lang may lulusot may hindi basta nagbayad ayus na. Miners ganun dn. And they are not even as daring as muslim extremist na ready to go to war. Puro suntok sa buwan ang demands. Edited January 9, 2018 by Kingkongphils Quote Link to comment
Kingkongphils Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 As usual deskarte bulok, illegal vs legal. Hanap ibang examples, pa sample sample pa ang layu ng example. Hindi lahat ng tao dito tambay sa sa kanto, kaya ayusin mo sample mo. On topic. The CPP needs to innovate, with the social media taking the center stage people even from the provinces are starting to pick up the pace in information.Ako ba yun? Hahaha.. Sorry a... Slow lang talaga ata ako.. Well on my part ung example ko e yun ang point.. Isang illegal at isang legal... Which is BIR tax =legal rev tax =illegal. Quote Link to comment
tk421 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 KMU lang, babayaran mo para mag boycott ng company. Bata pa ako nyn. May isang company malapit sa amin na nag sara pano winelgahan, ka labasan hindi nmn pala empleyado na ang nakaharang sa gate.. Sino sila... You guessed it.. KMU.Illegal loggers lang may lulusot may hindi basta nagbayad ayus na. Miners ganun dn. And they are not even as daring as muslim extremist na ready to go to war. Puro suntok sa buwan ang demands.Teka NPA pinag uusapan natin, paano kumusot ang KMU dito? Since aminado kang bata ka pa nun, paano mo na verify na ganyan nga ang nangyari sa nagsarang kumpanya? At sabi mo madami silang imposible na demands. Paki sabi nga kung anu ano yun demands nila at kung bakit di nabigay ng kumpanya? Quote Link to comment
Kingkongphils Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Teka NPA pinag uusapan natin, paano kumusot ang KMU dito? Since aminado kang bata ka pa nun, paano mo na verify na ganyan nga ang nangyari sa nagsarang kumpanya? At sabi mo madami silang imposible na demands. Paki sabi nga kung anu ano yun demands nila at kung bakit di nabigay ng kumpanya?Hahaha.. May bad, kala ko ikaw ung nag bangit ng KMU... Just the same e kaya nga may examples ako ng illegal loggers at mining na pinapalusot ng NPA, not that its their job pero kung talagang strict ung ideology nila e dapat pati yun wala. Kaso malaki kita nila dyn. Well isa ang tiyuhin ko sa nawalan ng trabaho dun. At sabi nya hindi nga daw nya kilala ang mga nag welga. Actually union busting ang ginawa ng kumpanya kaso dahila KMU backed ang union e hindi nagpatalo. Problem is pati ung matitinong empleyado e nawalan ng trabaho nung naiinis ang owner. Pinag squat ng mga unionista ang "KMU". Quote Link to comment
haroots2 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Teka NPA pinag uusapan natin, paano kumusot ang KMU dito? Kung sa corporate wolrd, sister company ang KMU and NPA. Quote Link to comment
tk421 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Wag na nating palabuin ang issue by introducing new variables like yun mga welga na yan. Unless you can come up with a list of demands nga nun mga nag welga na sabi mong imposible i meet. Para makilatis natin bakit nga ba umabot sa ganun. About loggers and miners: kung nagbayad ng rev tax nga ang mga yun, eh di syempre papapasahin. Kung illegal miners at nahuli ng NPA yan mga yan at nakakasira sa communidad na pino protektahan nila, most likely aatakihin nila ang mga yan. Quote Link to comment
rooster69ph Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) Kung sa corporate wolrd, sister company ang KMU and NPA.ano sino naman nagturo sa iyo niyan? sa corp world ang sister company could either be a subsidiary or an affiliate and ang link nila is yun ownership. so ano ang link ng kmu at npa? breakaway group o isang faction ba ng npa ang kmu or vice versa? Edited January 9, 2018 by rooster69ph Quote Link to comment
haroots2 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 ano sino naman nagturo sa iyo niyan? sa corp world ang sister company could either be a subsidiary or an affiliate and ang link nila is yun ownership. so ano ang link ng kmu at npa? breakaway group o isang faction ba ng npa ang kmu or vice versa? CPP Quote Link to comment
rooster69ph Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 (edited) CPPReally? 😮 Baka imbento mo na naman ... for ur convenience Can you prove it? Edited January 10, 2018 by rooster69ph Quote Link to comment
Bolj Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Lol guys easy on the "can you prove it" statement, those words may comeback to haunt you :-) Btw I'm in awe of some guys/gal here that are trying to either defend or define/ or trying to define the CPPs stance on all fronts. D naman pwedeng pag kalaban na ni dutz kakampihan nyu nadin, obvious maxado galawan nyu. Quote Link to comment
rooster69ph Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 May convenient proof ang dutertards ... sabi ni duterle kmu is link to cpp. Quote Link to comment
daphne loves derby Posted January 10, 2018 Author Share Posted January 10, 2018 (edited) Kaunting kaalaman para sa mga "pure hater" na ignoranteng maka kontra lang.This Blog can help https://goneoutfishing.wordpress.com/category/uncategorized/ https://goneoutfishing.wordpress.com/category/uncategorized/ Edited January 10, 2018 by daphne loves derby 1 Quote Link to comment
haroots2 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Kaunting kaalaman para sa mga "pure hater" na ignoranteng maka kontra lang.This Blog can help https://goneoutfishing.wordpress.com/category/uncategorized/ https://goneoutfishing.wordpress.com/category/uncategorized/ Alam naman na niya yan, para maka kontra lang talaga at mapahaba usapan. Quote Link to comment
rooster69ph Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 (edited) Alam naman na niya yan, para maka kontra lang talaga at mapahaba usapan.Nope di ko alam ... first time ko narinig yan from you kaya pls prove it para di na humaba usapan. Ano ba ang source mo? Dali naman kasi magimbento then pagnaipit seen zone Edited January 10, 2018 by rooster69ph Quote Link to comment
haroots2 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Nope di ko alam ... first time ko narinig yan from you kaya pls prove it para di na humaba usapan. Ano ba ang source mo? Dali naman kasi magimbento then pagnaipit seen zone Di mo alam na ang NPA ang armed group and KMU is one of the labor group ng CPP? Quote Link to comment
tomagants Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 During the political indifference of the 70's up to the 80's arms struggle in the mountains were very active. The flight of the poor is the cause. Unless we dig the root cause of the problem we will then know the position. Those were the years when they were very aggressive to fight. Until they reached to the point that the movement is getting in the streets of the city. Political arrest and killings were the word of mouth. From that time on unfolding of events happened in brisk staccato. Those were the hard times.. I tell you. Moving from one place to another. printing machines were established 10 feet below the ground where electricity is generated from water. root crops were the source of food.Kami ganito noon.... Paano naman kayo ngayon? Quote Link to comment
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