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Left-Wing Parties: The Truth & Lies About Philippine Communism


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i am not talking a fancy story here these are not two different things and i am not sweeping generalization here. nangyari ito sa bukaran ko mismo at mga tao ko ito ang sinasabi ko. at huwag mong sabihan sa akin na ito ay kuwento lang.

 

nasaan ka ba ng dekada 80 nakatikim ka na ba na pinukpok sa ulo ng 45?

 

Alam ng NPA ang mga pangyayaring yan. At sinasadya nilang gawin yan.

 

Napipilitang sumama o kumampi sa taong labas ang mga magsasaka na hinarass o sinaktan ng militar.

 

Kaya sinasadya ng mga taong-labas na makita sila ng militar o mga informer na kumakanlong sila sa bahay ng magsasaka na gusto nilang ma-harass. At kung sakaling ma-harass nga itong mga ito, pabor yun sa NPA -- madadagdagan ang sympathizer nila.

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i am not talking a fancy story here these are not two different things and i am not sweeping generalization here. nangyari ito sa bukaran ko mismo at mga tao ko ito ang sinasabi ko. at huwag mong sabihan sa akin na ito ay kuwento lang.

 

nasaan ka ba ng dekada 80 nakatikim ka na ba na pinukpok sa ulo ng 45?

d mo pa nga nadepensahan ang una mong sinabi nandito kana sa ika-tatlong story mo.

 

"Friends and countrymen... CPP/NPA is the result of Oppressed from the bondage of slavery in what form? Hunger/economic sabotage/deprived of equality /the poor is becoming poorer economicaly.

 

 

 

Give a good reason and platform to convince the people in the mountains not to go to arms struggle? if they will be deprived of Funding- better condition of living- living with all the conditions of equality what else? one can count by the fingers what the basic needs food, clothing and shelter.

 

If one of this basic needs is not present then what one think the next move will be? Happy and be Merry? "

 

Wag ka mag skipping rope dyan, yan ang una mong sinabi. Mahilig ka din sa story-telling, yan ang pinag uusapan natin pano napunta yan sa 45 napalo sa ulo. Stick to the point ka.

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Yes, may sensible na paliwanag para dyan. Pero di kelangan i-discuss sa yo. Hindi mo rin naman maiintindihan.

I pity Mr. Stark.

 

Imposibleng makipag talakayan ng maayos sa mga sarado ang isip, blinded by (hoax) / propaganda / hate at lalong-lalo na sa mga trolls.

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hindi ako naniniwala sa Komunismo dito sa bansa. kaduda duda para sa akin kung paanong hindi sila naubos noon sa loob ng mahigit 2 dekada samantalang nasa pamahalaan ang mga teknolohiya ng armas, mga tangke, mga fighter planes. sa dami ng mga pinatay na Muslim noong panahon na iyon ang weird na hindi kayang ubusin ang mga rebelde kahit pa may mga madamay na inosente. ang weird na sinasabi nila na alam ng intelligence nila kung nasaan ang mga rebelde pero hindi naman nila inuubos.

sa tingin ko minimaintain talaga nila ang mga rebelde. dahil wala naman sa field para magpatayan ang mga nakatataas. kailangan nila ng laban para magkaroon ng budget. at pawns lang ang mga pinababayaan nilang magpatayan bilang proof of existence ng conflict. gaya ng mga istorya kung paanong pinapatay ng mga rebelde ang kapwa nila rebelde. mukhang niloloko lang yung mga tauhan nila tungkol sa pekeng pakikibaka. convenient na magkaroon ng mga rebelde dahil pwedeng iugnay sa kanila ang sinumang mga nagpoprotesta. madami silang pinatay noon na mga aktibista sa bintang na mga rebelde sila. at ganun ulit mismo ang ginagawa nila sa panahon na ito. noong 2016 campaign strategy nila na kaibigan nila ang mga rebelde. pero ngayong 2022 ay magkakaaway na ulit sila. kailangan lang nila ng mga rebelde for red tagging purposes.

 

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the NPA and other rebel groups depend highly on the public sympathy  for their support. When I was in UP during martial law days I had bout 5-7 friends who joined the movement as it was ( for them ) the only way to overthrow a corrupt and oppressive govt.

At present , the NPA has little support as their ideology is not appealing for most. Lumang ideology na yan at patay na sa ibang bansa. Heck even Russia and China have adapted capitalist policies. 

The biggest communist threat does not lie within IMHO but with communist CHINA .

 

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What's funny is how much flak these guys get from their constituents all because they they're authoritarian and US-leaning:

Ferdinand Marcos, Park Chung Hee, Lee kwan Yew, Suharto, Shah of Iran, Augusto Pinochet

The fact is living in those countries under them was kinda safe (and at the least bearable.)

Now, compare the first group to this this next one. Dictators who were anti-US. Also a question: would you have wanted to live in their countries at the time?

Mao Tse Tung, Kim Il Sung, Fidel Castro, Josef Tito, Enver Hoxha, Muhammar Kaddafi, Ayatollah Khomeini, Saddam Hussein

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I am just sharing what I picked up online on history,  A good historian declares that facts are eternal. The facts can be verified and confirmed but opinions are varied and at times contradictory. Thus facts are the basis for historical Truth. 

 

Karl Marx is a German journalist assigned to cover the American Civil War. In the course of his work, he was able to correspond with President Abraham Lincoln, who mentioned Marx once in a letter. 

Lincoln is renowned to remind America of duty to God and fought a war to abolish slavery.  Marx meanwhile is a Jew, maybe an atheist. From the Gospels, Jesus declared that the Jew will not see him again until the Day of the Lord. This needs careful attention since apart from making Jews the first people who were given the Gospels, they are also destined to be the Last.  They exist as a sign that despite their claim to be closest to God, Jesus, who is the Way, Truth and Life has hidden himself from them. Jesus is the Light of the World and the people who walk in darkness are the Jews, who after Jesus left, had to return into walking in the dark.

 

Lincoln stands tall as the US President who put his country on the right path.  For this reason, America has been blessed.  God Bless America!

 

Marx meanwhile became the seed of defiance. A Jew will have the excuse not to see the Way that Lincoln followed. He is made blind by the Word of the Lord. Jesus forgave them for they do not know what they are doing.  Yes, the Jewish mob and the Pharisees who influenced them, murdered Jesus since at the time, they were already made blind to the Truth.  Those who follow Marx may be what Jesus cautions as blind men following blind guides. But Marx was not even that popular in his lifetime. His ideas were made into a religion by others like Engles, who for a time was resident of New York City. The movement that started Marxism was likely started from the USA, and supported by those who lost to Lincoln. They are today's Democrat liberals, if Lincoln is the true Republican conservative.

 

Therefore it is no simple matter of pro or anti America.  Apo Marcos was convinced that the left is responsible for removing him from office. He was correct. The fact is US Democrat Senators pressured him to leave office. But this input about how Marxism started may shatter the paradigm that America stands faithful to God the Almighty. That is a grave mistake since many a same sex marriage, abortion and anti Life movements, which are abominations under Scriptures are not being faithful to God at all, but propagated today here and in the USA more so. 

 

I am no Jew. Thus, my ability to see the Way Truth and Life is not impaired.  What about you? God tore the kingdom away from the Jews and gave it to the Gentiles, which is a metaphor of the story of Saul, Israel's first king. Saul lost favor and God tore the kingdom away from Saul and gave it to David instead.

 

 

 

 

 

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Here is the truth

Ang NPA ay 5000 strong lang. Contrary to what Badoy wants you to believe, wala silang kakayahan or resources para pabagsakin gobyerno. In fact, kung talagang gusto naman ng AFP matagal na sila naubos. Bakit naman ang mga HUK rebels (Mga komunista bago nagkaron NPA) 9000 strong sila pero nasugpo sila ng Magsaysay Admin at napasuko pa leader nila na si Luis Taruc?

Ang gusto lang ng mga NPA na yan, ay makakuha ng simpatya. Masakyan ang ibat ibang issue para makakuha simpatya sa publiko. That is how they continue to exist. So tuwing nasasangkot sa kontrobersya mga senador at ang presidente, tuwing may napapatay na inosente ang mga lokong pulis, tuwing may matandang nagnanakaw ng mangga na kinulong, samantalang malaya mga big time plunderers, nagagamit nila yan para makakuha ng simpatya. At yang pang re-redtag na yan, nakakatulong yan lalo sa CPP. Kung di man nila mahikayat ang mga tao na sumapi sa kanila, nagagamit naman nila yan para lalong tumindi galit ng tao sa gobyerno at yan gusto nila.

Think about it, kung gusto nila mainstitutionalize yan NTF-ELCAC na yan, ibig sabihin wala silang intensyon tapusin ang mga rebelde na yan. Kasi kung wala ng NPA, ano pa justification ng existence nila? Papano pa sila hihingi pondo? Papano pa hihingi intelligence funds na yan amounting to Billions and Billions. 

 

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Ang gagang Lorraine Badoy naulol na ng tuluyan. Ang di nya alam, lahat ng ginagawa nya ay pinagpapasalamat pa lalo ng mga NPA. She is doing them a great favor.

Lalong sumisikat ang NPA, lalo silang nagiging relevant
Lalo silang nakakakuha simpatya
Dahil sa kanya, lalong nagmumukhang tanga Gobyerno
Lalo din hindi nagtitiwala ang tao sa gobyerno
At ano kamo? Papatay sya ng judge? Eh di ayus! Yun ang gusto ng NPA.

These morons want us to believe that there will be an NPA take over anytime soon. That it has infiltrated na nga daw schools, churches, heck even angat buhay nga daw ay galing sa donasyon ng NPA. Which is stupid as a motherfucker. 

Because the truth is, ni wala nga maipakain sa mga guerilla fighters nila ang NPA. THey are not also the serious threat they are made out to be. They are less than 5000 strong, they do not have a navy, or an airforce. They only exist because they get sympathy which Lorraine is helping them out with. 

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Communism is originally a social weapon of mass destruction. It was used to weaken Czarist Russia from within by revolution. It remains to be a weapon used by foreign nations to keep countries from development. Realize that its victims, Russia and China, became labor states. This is what Hitler describes as Serf States, that is the lowest caste in Feudal societies. 

 

The Reich began with a constitution of sorts, which created Feudalism. Under feudalism, a structured society is separated into rulers and land Lords, then the ruled or serf class, those who work the land.  This Reich ended with the defeat of Napoleon, who crowned himself Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire.

 

The defeat of Napoleon after becoming Holy Roman Emperor completely weakened the Reich into obscurity. According to German Nazi propaganda, a second and third Reich came about during the first and second world wars, respectively.

 

Why is Russia enemy of the West?

 

Russia became nemesis of the Holy Roman Empire or Reich since Czarist Russia is what Roman rulers were, from  Roman military dictatorship, who is called Caesar. Romans and Holy Romans are rival empires, Both Christian empires descended from the church under Peter. What we now refer to as the Western Civilization, is really the Western church that remained under the leadership of the successor of Peter after Constantine recreated his  Rome Empire and physically transferred his government, East of the original city of Roma.  Today, this East of Rome  city capital is called Istanbul. Constantine founded that place, which was named after him when it was still under Christianity.

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On 8/16/2022 at 4:20 PM, Edmund Dantes said:

Here is the truth

Ang NPA ay 5000 strong lang. Contrary to what Badoy wants you to believe, wala silang kakayahan or resources para pabagsakin gobyerno. In fact, kung talagang gusto naman ng AFP matagal na sila naubos. Bakit naman ang mga HUK rebels (Mga komunista bago nagkaron NPA) 9000 strong sila pero nasugpo sila ng Magsaysay Admin at napasuko pa leader nila na si Luis Taruc?

Ang gusto lang ng mga NPA na yan, ay makakuha ng simpatya. Masakyan ang ibat ibang issue para makakuha simpatya sa publiko. That is how they continue to exist. So tuwing nasasangkot sa kontrobersya mga senador at ang presidente, tuwing may napapatay na inosente ang mga lokong pulis, tuwing may matandang nagnanakaw ng mangga na kinulong, samantalang malaya mga big time plunderers, nagagamit nila yan para makakuha ng simpatya. At yang pang re-redtag na yan, nakakatulong yan lalo sa CPP. Kung di man nila mahikayat ang mga tao na sumapi sa kanila, nagagamit naman nila yan para lalong tumindi galit ng tao sa gobyerno at yan gusto nila.

Think about it, kung gusto nila mainstitutionalize yan NTF-ELCAC na yan, ibig sabihin wala silang intensyon tapusin ang mga rebelde na yan. Kasi kung wala ng NPA, ano pa justification ng existence nila? Papano pa sila hihingi pondo? Papano pa hihingi intelligence funds na yan amounting to Billions and Billions. 

 

Think about it, kung gusto nila mainstitutionalize yan NTF-ELCAC na yan, ibig sabihin wala silang intensyon tapusin ang mga rebelde na yan. Kasi kung wala ng NPA, ano pa justification ng existence nila? Papano pa sila hihingi pondo? Papano pa hihingi intelligence funds na yan amounting to Billions and Billions. 

 

good point

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Think about it, kung gusto nila mainstitutionalize yan NTF-ELCAC na yan, ibig sabihin wala silang intensyon tapusin ang mga rebelde na yan. Kasi kung wala ng NPA, ano pa justification ng existence nila? Papano pa sila hihingi pondo? Papano pa hihingi intelligence funds na yan amounting to Billions and Billions. 

 

good point

Ang NPA ay wala naman navy, wala naman airforce. Ni hindi nga nila mapakain mga sundalo nila. Are you trying to tell me na ang AFP with 150,000 active personel matatalo ng 5000 lang? Magagawa nila masakop Malacanang? Ungas naman yata maniniwala dun.

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On 2/14/2023 at 3:10 PM, Edmund Dantes said:

Ang NPA ay wala naman navy, wala naman airforce. Ni hindi nga nila mapakain mga sundalo nila. Are you trying to tell me na ang AFP with 150,000 active personel matatalo ng 5000 lang? Magagawa nila masakop Malacanang? Ungas naman yata maniniwala dun.

you missed the point, bro

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18 minutes ago, kael2000 said:

you missed the point, bro

exactly. 

the true fools are the ones who think linear, na automatic national or worldwide domination ang gameplan. 

and its never a numbers game. esp nowadays. a 20man well trained strikeforce is enough to bring down an entire country. one nuclear warhead is more preferrable than 200000 fully armed rocket launchers (yes i know the NPA has neithrr of this but u get my point, its not a numbers game). 

 

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