Left-Wing Parties: The Truth & Lies About Philippine Communism

[tk421]

He just wont let it go. Kelangan yun point nya lang ang tama kasi like Duterte...

[Bolj]

Dahil ang gt at iba pang paraan ng warfare ay isa lang sa mga paraan na pwedeng gamitin ng isang general para magupo ang kanyang kalaban.

Ikaw na mismo nagsabi isa lang sa mga paraan, kaya nga sinasabi ko hindi automatic na mag GT ka kaagad. Yan ang punto, ang layo mo na maxado. Wla tayong pinagdedebatihan about sa overall battles ng history. Ang objective dito is pag smaller army ka automatic best kaagad ang GT? Mhistory na mismo nagsabi hindi pati bibliya nagsasabi din.

 

@tk tinuldukan mo na ang paguusap natin mag sa-side comment ka naman dyan. Start ka bagong pag uusapan natin, para kang bata. Losser dating mo brad.

[Kornholio]

my 5 cent opinion

 

I think by principle, communism is good in terms of a vast population of non achievers. everybody is an employee. so whether you're a manager or a laborer your salary is the same. that's good. but does not promote growth. furthermore the government takes a more oppressing role. to silence uprisings and change in the system. since all the money is funneled to the government. everyone is a slave, except the government. so by fueling it with greed and corruption. the government is the breeding ground for decay.

 

particularly in the Philippines. the cpp should be eradicated. but people who need money makes a business out of it. by way of rallies, getting support from lazy people. (500 pesos join a rally) free food and all.

lazy people who would like free houses, free food, free everything. these are the kinds of people that supports communists in the hope of free everything. what they don't know is that everything is free for payment of free will. you will never be hungry but in turn will never be rich. will never have a voice and will never be able to run. you are a guinea pig for life. so as your kids and everyone.

 

activists think they are doing good, instead they are just following a false ideology. what? lower jeepney fares? nobody thinks for the jeepney driver? jeepney dirver wants lower fuel prices? who will pay the oil? as a nation, we need to pay as a country. (a lot of people are still unproductive "tagay!" street dwellers etc.) vast lands, a lot of workers. no revenue. why? idiotic policies. false ideologies.

 

just imagine our taxes being funneled to the npa, businesses asking for taxes. the npa are like leeches. they fight for nothing. actually they just want to keep their salaries, guns and power. well if cant have a position in the government, join the other side. there no queues, no tax, no nothing. just join you get some degree of power, some clout, some cash some guns and new friends. ka Freddie! hahaha.

 

the government should destroy the core of cpp npa. they are not fighting for anything. just want money and talk s@%t in the society. if they are really fighting for something, they should stand up to it and not make a business out of it. show that its worth dying for, not running to the hills and try to slug it out in the jungle. bunch of cowards and losers.

 

the cpp cannot make this nation great. they are dead weight. demoracy is still the best.. but coupled with greedy and lazy people, democracy also rots to the core... we need to change as a country as a nation, which is easier said than done. just the traffic problem, nobody wants to give way. provincial busses don't want to give way. city busses don't want to give way. private vehicles don't want to give way. motorcycles don't want to give way. same in government. same in our people. we as individuals need to change. those who do not want to change should leave the country. why stay if you don't want to follow the law. get the f#&k out. same with cpp npa. get the f#&k out the Philippines.

 

Very well said sir blue+george i agree with your 5cents

[tk421]

@straw he just likes to take discussions out of context kasi. He likes those kind of stuff(s)...

 

While i do agree the npa should stop their harmful actions, i believe people with genuine struggles should continue fighting for what is right. That is the very foundation of democracy.

 

Pero tingin ko Dutduts followers arent happy with democracy na.

Edited December 17, 2017 by tk421

[Bolj]

Hindi ka talaga makakabasa ng war history na explicitly says na nanalo ang isang army using guerilla tactics.

Again opinion mo yan.

 

Btw AoW ni sun tzu ilang beses ko na nabasa yan.

 

Eto ang main argument ko.

 

Nung sinabi nya na pag small army guerilla warfare agad ang best. I challenged it, dahil alam ko ang sagot ay hindi.

 

Pero ikaw naman nag aabogado sa kanya, sasabihin mong OO, and hindi nakasulat lahat sa history books. Ay abay pag ganyan ang argument mo wla na tayu dapat pag usapan pa.

[Bolj]

Ah, yes. Dinaan sa technicality.

Nang sinubukan ko naman liwanagin ang nagiging argument mo eto ka naman dinaan mo sa technicality at ilang choice of words. Tama ka bolj. Wala na tayong pag uusapan pa kung ganyan ang diskusyunan natin.

till next time i guess, both of us won't budge anyway. We will have to leave it up to the readers to judge for themselves.

 

On topic: Duterte was wrong when he said the only way to deal with NPA was to just pay them revolutionary tax, as it turned out they want key positions in governing also.

[tk421]

Again, bunching the NPA with other leftist as if they are the same group.

[pinoylegend]

you can be a patriot anytime and make a choice or do something to make everything better but not by adding more problems to the current rotting system.

 

do arson, rev tax, ambush of army and pnp, kidnapping and extortion sound like the way/means to achieve the "change" that they want?

does this extreme and violent methods the proper way to "have a new outlook" in govt?

 

these leftist condones EJK like hell, pero yung mga ambush na ginagawa nila na may nadadamay na sanggol tahimik sila?

tell me if this gives you a sign or sincerity for the "new government" they want to achieve?

 

4-month-old baby, cop killed in NPA ambushRead more: [/size]http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cagayan-de-oro/local-news/2017/11/11/4-month-old-baby-cop-killed-npa-ambush-574059Follow us: @sunstaronline on Twitter | SunStar Philippines on Facebook[/size]

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cagayan-de-oro/local-news/2017/11/11/4-month-old-baby-cop-killed-npa-ambush-574059

 

push ng push ng Peace Talks ampota pero ganito naman ang ginagawa nila. sinong tangang gobyerno ang papayag na ganito ang gawin sa kanila despite of giving/showing them good faith?

 

these administration had to move heaven and earth to come closer in ending their rebellion, and what do these NPA's give back in return?

 

I want this thread not just to be a room for debate or banter but also to spread information to everyone na wag iboto at suportahan ang mga ganitong mapagpanggap na party list na supporters ng NPA.

 

my 5 cent opinion

 

I think by principle, communism is good in terms of a vast population of non achievers. everybody is an employee. so whether you're a manager or a laborer your salary is the same. that's good. but does not promote growth. furthermore the government takes a more oppressing role. to silence uprisings and change in the system. since all the money is funneled to the government. everyone is a slave, except the government. so by fueling it with greed and corruption. the government is the breeding ground for decay.

 

particularly in the Philippines. the cpp should be eradicated. but people who need money makes a business out of it. by way of rallies, getting support from lazy people. (500 pesos join a rally) free food and all.

lazy people who would like free houses, free food, free everything. these are the kinds of people that supports communists in the hope of free everything. what they don't know is that everything is free for payment of free will. you will never be hungry but in turn will never be rich. will never have a voice and will never be able to run. you are a guinea pig for life. so as your kids and everyone.

 

activists think they are doing good, instead they are just following a false ideology. what? lower jeepney fares? nobody thinks for the jeepney driver? jeepney dirver wants lower fuel prices? who will pay the oil? as a nation, we need to pay as a country. (a lot of people are still unproductive "tagay!" street dwellers etc.) vast lands, a lot of workers. no revenue. why? idiotic policies. false ideologies.

 

just imagine our taxes being funneled to the npa, businesses asking for taxes. the npa are like leeches. they fight for nothing. actually they just want to keep their salaries, guns and power. well if cant have a position in the government, join the other side. there no queues, no tax, no nothing. just join you get some degree of power, some clout, some cash some guns and new friends. ka Freddie! hahaha.

 

the government should destroy the core of cpp npa. they are not fighting for anything. just want money and talk s@%t in the society. if they are really fighting for something, they should stand up to it and not make a business out of it. show that its worth dying for, not running to the hills and try to slug it out in the jungle. bunch of cowards and losers.

 

the cpp cannot make this nation great. they are dead weight. demoracy is still the best.. but coupled with greedy and lazy people, democracy also rots to the core... we need to change as a country as a nation, which is easier said than done. just the traffic problem, nobody wants to give way. provincial busses don't want to give way. city busses don't want to give way. private vehicles don't want to give way. motorcycles don't want to give way. same in government. same in our people. we as individuals need to change. those who do not want to change should leave the country. why stay if you don't want to follow the law. get the f#&k out. same with cpp npa. get the f#&k out the Philippines.

 

HEAR HEAR! I agree with you daphne loves derby and blue+george!

 

Almost every country where Communism or Socialism has been tried ended up to be a failure. Even China, the only remaining Communist superpower since the fall of the Soviet Union, embraced capitalism in order to compete globally, rebuild China from Mao's Cultural Revolution and expand political power beyond their borders. Vietnam also capitalist now. Cuba is gradually opening up to the world.

 

I believe Communism/Socialism is an outdated political idea and doesn't have a place in an interconnected (social, cultural & economic) world that we live in right now. Our world is far different now from the industrial and imperial era when Karl Marx first wrote his the communist manifesto.

 

To end my post, let me link a video that I found on Twitter that I think is suitable to the topic we have here folks.

 

Link: https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/940087593667928065

[rooster69ph]

Noong una BFF ni Duterte si Joma Sison, kampi tayo . Sumigaw pa nga sya ng Mabuhay ang NPA! Sabi pa nga sya daw ang first leftist president. Pero ngayon kagalit na ni idol Duterte galit na din tayo sa leftist.

Wag kalimutan na habang binabatikos si pangulong lodi sa kanyang pagiging masyadong makakaliwaaw e siya namang depensa ng mga Tards at sabing napakagaling ni lodi dahil siya ang kaunaunahang pangulong makapagpapaisa sa ating bansa kaya nga daw binibigyan pa niya ng posisyon sa pamahalaan/gabinete ang ikan sa mga makakaliwa.

 

Pero nakalimutan mo na ba rin na kailangan marunong kang tumukoy kung alin sa sinasabi at ginagawa ni lodi ang joke o biro lang. Well maaring isa ito sa mga pagbibiro lang ni Lodi. Lol

[2WarningPoints]

For my own opinion NPA or any non goverment miltary groups should be abolish, eradicate or any word that is synonimous to destruction, for just a simple reason.... we have a great fuctioning goverment and we need to support it... anyone oppose to the goverment should be subject for threat or terrorism... but if the goverment it self will be a threat to my family or my life or it shift to tyrrany ofcourse i can be rougue... but that just my opinion... the current admin have may full support

[tk421]

For my own opinion NPA or any non goverment miltary groups should be abolish, eradicate or any word that is synonimous to destruction, for just a simple reason.... we have a great fuctioning goverment and we need to support it... anyone oppose to the goverment should be subject for threat or terrorism... but if the goverment it self will be a threat to my family or my life or it shift to tyrrany ofcourse i can be rougue... but that just my opinion... the current admin have may full support

 

So you probably understand why they're rebelling? In your view, the government is doing good. But that's just your view because you may be benefiting from it somehow. Maybe you feel you are safe, you have a good job, you are healthy, and so on.

 

But other people feel they are disadvantaged by the government and that is why they are doing what they do.

 

Personally, I don't think the government is functioning correctly. If they are, then we won't have these problems (traffic/poverty/misused funds/etc).

 

However, I do not have the drive to openly rebel against it. Not all people share my patience, though.

[2WarningPoints]

 

So you probably understand why they're rebelling? In your view, the government is doing good. But that's just your view because you may be benefiting from it somehow. Maybe you feel you are safe, you have a good job, you are healthy, and so on.

 

But other people feel they are disadvantaged by the government and that is why they are doing what they do.

 

Personally, I don't think the government is functioning correctly. If they are, then we won't have these problems (traffic/poverty/misused funds/etc).

 

However, I do not have the drive to openly rebel against it. Not all people share my patience, though.

The way I see it majority of the people are satisfied about the current administration and thats important, if the minority decided to go rouge for their little inconveniences or their own agendas it's their choice... so k*ll them all... hey thats just my opinion

Edited December 21, 2017 by Dash_Avalanche

[tk421]

“Little inconveniences” from your point of view.

 

So you’re saying if you go rogue because your family is being threatened by the government, then the majority should just k*ll you, right? Because you’re just being “inconvenient”.

[tomagants]

Let us try to see the issue in the broader perspective. I have a good chance to talk with the peers.. How many presidents that have passed by .... NPA survived the tides.. Now that every body is getting modernized and go thru the mellenials... Do you think their organization left behind??? proved me wrong Inspite of everything the odds.. DO NPA CEASE TO EXISTS????? This is already running in the stream of bloodline for some of our countrymen.

The truth they becoming stronger in priciples in the countryside... They are also capable much less than the military... but they can break a leg just to survive. I am doubting if ever NPA will cease to exist.

[Maykeee]

Ang problema sa mga rebolusyonaryong komunista, hindi sila matatapos hanggat hindi nauubos o nababawasan ng lubos ang mga mandarambong at mapang-abuso sa gobyerno. Hanggat marami pa rin ang mga socio-economico-political issues ang hindi inaa-adress o sinosolusyunan ng gobyerno, magpapatuloy ang mga kontra-gobyernong propaganda ng mga komunista.

 

Malaking problema din and perang dumadaloy sa kilusan. Maliban sa every 3 years na money-making scheme nila dahil sa lokal na eleksyon, marami pa rin ang nahihikayat na sumali s CPP-NPA-NDF dahil sa revolutionary tax system nila. Tulad ng mga local terrorists sa mindanao, ang CPP-NPA-NDF ay tumatanggap din ng tulong pinansyal sa maraming komunistang bansa at pro-communist entities.

 

Pero mas malaking problema ang lumalakas at organisadong alyansa ng CPP-NPA-NDF sa mga rebeldeng Moro. Ang NPA ay may special unit para sa mga miyembro nilang Muslim.

 

Ang CPP-NPA-NDF ay isang kumplikado at sensitibong problema na nangangailangan ng whole-of-government approach.

Edited January 5, 2018 by 90mayk19