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[JackieM]

Makabayan pero nawalan ng work ang isang Pinoy dahil binigay sa isang dayuhan para lang manalo sa UAAP Volleyball. Hehehe. Kawawa naman ang isang kabayan natin na nawalan. Huhuhu

[FF]

On 5/17/2022 at 3:57 PM, JackieM said:

Namasyal ako sa UP, bakit naparaming students na may magagandang sasakyan, dapat siguro ang mga eskolar ng Bayan ay mga mahihirap na matatalino, hindi yung mga mayayaman.

Maraming kaklase from Don Bosco ang pamangkin ko na pumapasok now sa UP na hindi naman daw matatalino noong  High School sila may mga kakilala lang daw silang mga sikat na Alumni at ngayon ay mga Politico. 

Sa kapanahunan namin may High School classmate akong nakapasok ng di ko alam papano dahil nag removal pa yun sa Math para makasabay lang sa graduation namin. Hahaha

Sa time ng sister ko naman may kinasuhan kaming Professor sa Math Department dahil nagbigay ito ng Take Home Exam pagkatapos binagsak nya lahat ng students dahil nag "kopyahan daw" Pag file namin ng kaso biglang umaksyon ang College at pinasa lahat ng students at nakiusap bawiin lang namin ang case baka daw lumaki at gayahin ng ibang students, Ibig sabihin lang nito madami silang pinagtatakpan na milagro.

May isa pa silang case na pinawithdraw kasabay namin: Yung case ng anak ng isang Senador.  

 

Comrade , the University of the Philippines is a state university and therefore is open to all those deserving and qualified regardless of socio-economic status. Sad to say the economically disadvantaged students wanting to enter UP may also be hampered by poor schooling , poor parental support , lack of proper diet and a host of other ills. This maybe the BIGGER PROBLEM which sad to say cannot be addressed by the University  in setting up the passing standards. As I wrote in an earlier post UP tried to address this and the experiment failed.

Re the cases that you mentioned no system is perfect. I hope you agree that cases like the ones you mention  not only in UP  but in other educational institutions as well.

RE your nephew from Don Bosco  and the scion of a Senator there will always be rumors like these but they are best rumors unless proven true.  Posts like this throw undue shade on the institution . This is a public forum and it may do well to post responsibly.

 

 

[FF]

54 minutes ago, JackieM said:

Makabayan pero nawalan ng work ang isang Pinoy dahil binigay sa isang dayuhan para lang manalo sa UAAP Volleyball. Hehehe. Kawawa naman ang isang kabayan natin na nawalan. Huhuhu

Happens comrade. Kung ganyan ang pagiisip na i-aapply natin sa lahat ng bagay ay daan libong OFW Pinoys siguro ang mawawalan ng trabaho. It all about job qualification , competence and experience. Siguro kailangan munang patunayan muna na may Pilipino na may equal qualification , competence and experience who was denied the job  for your point to make sense.

[SAGITTARIAN]

sana all free or mas mababa man lng ang tuition fees :)

[FF]

1 hour ago, JackieM said:

STATE SCHOLAR po ako at UPCAT passer pero di ako pumasok sa UP dahil mas makakatipid ako sa MSU Iligan. Kapatid at mga pamangkin ko mga students ng UP at ang 1 ay Professor sa UPV lahat po sila UPCAT passer. Ako po ay NCEE Topnotcher, Top 6 sa Match Olympiad at No. 9 sa National Science Quiz. Kilala ako ni David Celdran na President ng UP STUDENTS ng panahon namin at ni Cong. MIRO QUIMBO na na mga kawpa kong member ng NUSP. At ako ang nag pursige na tumakbo si Erin Tanada na maging President ng NUSP kaya galit sa akin si David dahil natalo siya.

Hindi man ako naging student ng UP may alam din ako. Basahin ko rin ang pinanggalingan ng post ng nag comment ka para makita mo bakit ko sinabi ang mga yan....

Salamat sa input mo at nabasa ko na rin yan sa website nila, dahil kailangan namin yan bago kami nag file ng case sa UP against sa isang Prof. At nakiusap sa amin ang Dean at Department Head ng Mathematics na wag namin ituloy ang case para di masira ang College. Nagkaroon kami ng settlement noong 2004 at sa ngayon ay graduate na kapatid ko, natapos na rin ang PhD nya sa Math. Sa kasalukuyan nagsisimula pa lang Pamangkin ko sa kanyang Thesis ara PhD (Math), ang isa Proper na sa Vet Med at may isang nagsisimula ng ng sisimula ng sa kanyan research para sa kanyang masteral. Marami na kaming alam na problem ng UP. 

Ang kaibigan kong si Chanda Shahani na anak ni Senator Shahani nag file din ng complain sa isang college sa UP Diliman. Kaya ko nasabi mga yan dahil may ALAM din ako na di maganda.

I stand pale before all the experience and friends and acquaintances you mentioned.  I will not even dare mention mine because after all that is not the point here is it ?

Re UP issues again the University is not perfect and SOME of its faculty and administration not totally guiltless. Again as I have said it happens.

The greater thing to consider perhaps is that the University on the overall maintains its integrity  and academic standards.

[FF]

21 minutes ago, SAGITTARIAN said:

sana all free or mas mababa man lng ang tuition fees

Di hamak naman talagang mas mababa comrade. The bigger question here though may not only be the lower tuition fees but the standard of education .

And there is good news .

This from the  Commission on Higher Education  in a report issued 29 April 2022 .

"The most notable improvement in this international ranking is the entry of eight State Universities and Colleges (SUCs) – Mariano Marcos State University in Ilocos Norte, Central Luzon State University in Nueva Ecija, Tarlac Agricultural University in Tarlac, Mindanao State University – Iligan Institute of Technology in Iligan, Nueva Ecija University of Science and Technology in Nueva Ecija, Visayas State University in Leyte, Cebu Technological University in Cebu and Tarlac State University in Tarlac."

The full article link here

https://ched.gov.ph/15-philippine-universities-included-in-2022-international-ranking/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=15-philippine-universities-included-in-2022-international-ranking

Edited May 20, 2022 by FF

[JackieM]

33 minutes ago, FF said:

Happens comrade. Kung ganyan ang pagiisip na i-aapply natin sa lahat ng bagay ay daan libong OFW Pinoys siguro ang mawawalan ng trabaho. It all about job qualification , competence and experience. Siguro kailangan munang patunayan muna na may Pilipino na may equal qualification , competence and experience who was denied the job  for your point to make sense.

Madaming mga Pinoy coaches na puede

[FF]

11 minutes ago, JackieM said:

Madaming mga Pinoy coaches na puede

Feel free to cite comrade. Time permitting of course. Pero I see your point that being foreign doesn't always equate to being better. Goldwyn Monteverde's UP team beat the Tab Baldwin led Ateneo.

As in sports though it is a team effort . Goldwyn Monteverde may have had a better team in that best of three series.

 

Edited May 20, 2022 by FF

[macbolan00]

Funny thing, I know Miro Quimbo, his brother Rudy, and Mike Defensor. Chandra (with an 'r') Shahani was my classmate in one subject. I even used to hang out with Kiko Pangilinan in one tambayan (kung saan madaming maganda) but he won't remember me anymore, I guess. Thing is I see no relevance.

[FF]

31 minutes ago, macbolan00 said:

Funny thing, I know Miro Quimbo, his brother Rudy, and Mike Defensor. Chandra (with an 'r') Shahani was my classmate in one subject. I even used to hang out with Kiko Pangilinan in one tambayan (kung saan madaming maganda) but he won't remember me anymore, I guess. Thing is I see no relevance.

Hmmmm that is why am pretty much careful in citing credentials and friends etc comrade.  And i agree that what we post must be relevant to what is being discussed . All the experiences and friends cited must have a bearing on the post otherwise its fluff and may just cloud and obscure the issue altogether.

There will always be the lesser and greater of among us. And since we hide behind MTC handles there is pretty much no way to vet personal claims. So i usually rely on the quality of posts ( as we all do ) to paint the picture of the poster.

My point to the poster is that in my 12 years in the UP system ( two in elementary / four in high school / six in college ) I had personal knowledge of just one case of faculty trangression.  Add that to the fact that to this day many of my friends still remain within the system and we freely share amongst us their past as well as present experiences in the University. Still I agree that transgressions may have occurred. However proving it in a forum by citing proof and evidence is the crux of the matter.

 

Edited May 20, 2022 by FF

[FrostytheSnowMan]

44 minutes ago, FF said:

Di hamak naman talagang mas mababa comrade. The bigger question here though may not only be the lower tuition fees but the standard of education .

And there is good news .

This from the  Commission on Higher Education  in a report issued 29 April 2022 .

"The most notable improvement in this international ranking is the entry of eight State Universities and Colleges (SUCs) – Mariano Marcos State University in Ilocos Norte, Central Luzon State University in Nueva Ecija, Tarlac Agricultural University in Tarlac, Mindanao State University – Iligan Institute of Technology in Iligan, Nueva Ecija University of Science and Technology in Nueva Ecija, Visayas State University in Leyte, Cebu Technological University in Cebu and Tarlac State University in Tarlac."

The full article link here

https://ched.gov.ph/15-philippine-universities-included-in-2022-international-ranking/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=15-philippine-universities-included-in-2022-international-ranking

this one is a good news, i hope all those students na willing mag aral ay malaman nila ito. kaya pala ung pinsan ko ay pumunta sa nueva ecija.

[JackieM]

1 hour ago, macbolan00 said:

Funny thing, I know Miro Quimbo, his brother Rudy, and Mike Defensor. Chandra (with an 'r') Shahani was my classmate in one subject. I even used to hang out with Kiko Pangilinan in one tambayan (kung saan madaming maganda) but he won't remember me anymore, I guess. Thing is I see no relevance.

Miro the lawyer who handled the "359 or 379" case of the controversial Pepsi promo and son of Romulo (to whom the house of Miro at Tierra Pura Subd was named to hide it from the public), his mother-in-law is the former secretary of DOST, Secretary Alabastro. Yes Mike and Miro are good friends and fact is Mike was the one who recommended Miro as CEO of Pag-IBIG during the time of GMA. Miro is also close to Manny Maliksi.  Not Chandra but Chanda Narciso Ramos Shahani (this is how he introduced himself to me when I together with my friends helped managed the campaign of her mom in Cotabato & Maguindanao Province).  

Si Kiko? Hmmm matanong ko nga si Mrs ko anong masasabing nyang "Maganda" kay Kiko. Bwahahaha

Edited May 20, 2022 by JackieM

[macbolan00]

Ako na magsasabi sayo. Before he was into campus politics, masayahing tao. Nothing special. Pakanta-kanta lang to woo the girls. He had a good singing voice, maybe one reason he managed to woo Sharon. But after a while, he became more aware and joined campus politics, became chairman of the student council. He was admitted into law school and did his time. Nothing really more to say about him.

Oh, and Miro's WIFE is Dr Stella Alabastro, who also became congresswoman. Among the summa cum laudes from UP, she's my favorite.

[hit05]

On 5/17/2022 at 4:06 PM, JackieM said:

Ako ang di mo gets, ang unang Punto ko ay dapat bigyan ng PRIORITY ang mahihirap na matalino.

Pangalawa, magmamalinis, dahil madaming dumi sa loob mismo ng bakuran nya...

Kun matalino, dapat meron alternate system that will sustain both livelihood and intellectual pursuit.  In Germany, because they suffered from warfare, many are poor and displaced. The solution is to create a parallel system where people can shift between classroom or scholastic, and technical or factory/industry systems.  If you are poor, the best way is to work in the technical system but allow public acknowledgement that will upgrade level of credentials even at work.  Should a person attain financial independence or funding comfort, then he can shift to a scholastic system and attend classes formally. 

[macbolan00]

Technical schools as an option to formal "liberal arts" education will work only if you have a local or regional economy that will accommodate you. As a kid in the '70s, the Philippines was a modestly industrialized country. We used to go on field trips to factories within the metro and OH, you had shoe factories, candy factories, factories for soap, textile and garment factories, various kinds of metal works, even electronics  factories. Well, all of those have moved out of the metro or simply died out. Broadly, a fresh graduate's option now is either the local service-utilities field or seek employment abroad. For either option, a bachelor's degree is the best bet.