Free Tuition For State Universities And Colleges

[daphne loves derby]

 

 

The issue is NOT whether it is valid or not to become a law regardless of the availability of the funds but rather the reason behind that abrupt approval despite the opposition of his economic managers. O baka naman isa na namang pa-pogi points ito? OR should I say hilaw na pa-pogi points.

 

Si Drilon na nagsabi, OA ang computations ng economic managers ni Du30, nasa 400-500M lang ang kelangan adjustment yearly hindi Billions.

IMHO, regardless of abrupt approval or not, the benefits (esp long term) outweighs the concerns.

[Okita Sougo]

Naku, from INQ. Asahan na ang twist

[JakeC9]

May Budget na ba gov't para dito?

[blue+george]

my opinion on the topic.

 

1. its monumental. its like inviting everyone to a free dinner... every night

- its really good for those who cannot afford education

- its daunting for those who pays for it (taxpayers)

 

2. sen lacson has a good point.

- but we still need to educate people nonetheless. kahit bobo and all.

- educated people can be workers and uneducated people scour the streets... they will be the problem of the future police people. (this means, we train police and thieves at the same time)

- we still need to educate everyone... maybe those who cant do anything can be used as military, army men (drivers, cooks, cleaners, errand people etc.)

 

3. I guess the only way to filter out good and bad is to raise the standards of education... where the fallen can be taught skills training...

 

4. the only way to create jobs in my opinion is to expand away from manila. make new cities and create new economies...

[Viola]

What is the status of this? Is this signed into LAW already or is it true that they discontinued this? Is this different from free tuition for MEDICAL students for 8 SUCs (UPM is one of them, i forgot the others but mostly provincial).

[haroots2]

Dapat yung retake ng failed subject hindi na free.

[camiar]

We have to limit enrolment in SCU to poor but deserving students. Those who can pay either pay premium school fees or enroll in private colleges and universities.

 

How many poor but deserving students are there? Very few, kasi maraming poor but konti lang ang deserving.

 

If free tuition in SUCs is paid for from taxpayers' money, then it should be open to all, poor, middle class and rich people alike but only to the deserving -- those who have the intelligence,the commitment to study and the perseverance to finish the course.

 

It should not be considered a right, but a privilege.

Edited August 7, 2017 by camiar

[camiar]

In Singapore, government schools are either free or heavily subsidized. They are well funded and well staffed. But they have strict admission policies and students must excel if they want to continue studying in government schools.

 

That's why in Singapore, you're admired if you are studying in a government school. They see students of private schools "not good enough".

[jacuzzi]

The pressing issue here is not the initial cost of tuition fees. But the real cost of education, which to many is their whole life.

 

In the SONA there are still Mao fans sporting his cap hoping to catch attention. This is a terrible show of the state of education in the country. Under Mao, more Chinese were killed under his reeducation program, which was later labeled as "Cultural Revolution". The number of Chinese casualties exceed the combined fatalities in both World Wars. This is not to mention Mao asking our leaders to "keep them poor" referring to how he had held onto power by creating the largest, cheapest labor force the world will ever see.

 

Mao and Lenin have been proven False and are no longer relevant. How come it is still honored here? Do we need to EXPERIMENT again, this time with our lives? Can't our educators show exactly what happened after these poor ideas were implemented? Use scientific method and show if the experiment succeeded or if the conclusions were valid. Without US help, will China prosper under Mao's Cultural Neverland? Give us the honest answers so we would LEARN.

 

Education is LEARNING. If we fail to learn, then we keep repeating the same mistakes over and over. Even if we got diplomas, what is the use? Don't we ever get tired? China has already learned a few things that make it defy the Maoist principles, making it prosper. Vietnam too, even fought against the tyranny of the Chinese. We are stuck in a system that is anti American despite the obvious that our Asian neighbors like Japan, China and Vietnam could not have modernized without US technology. Americans brought with them the public school system, which after a century has helped the rise of BPO industry, but the Maoists today are creating a reeducation program that will render our children irrelevant, intellectually confused and good only for menial tasks which will soon be replaced by robots.

[Otepss]

Not a good idea.

[paddy]

 

How many poor but deserving students are there? Very few, kasi maraming poor but konti lang ang deserving.

 

If free tuition in SUCs is paid for from taxpayers' money, then it should be open to all, poor, middle class and rich people alike but only to the deserving -- those who have the intelligence,the commitment to study and the perseverance to finish the course.

 

It should not be considered a right, but a privilege.

 

From your assumption, then I guess the majority of students who can avail the free tuition from SUCs belong to the middle class and the super rich (taipans). So how can students (coming from poor and indigent families) with just average intellect get their college education?

Edited August 7, 2017 by paddy

[houndjock]

If you say yes to free education when your budget secretary says that you can't afford to pay for free education, it means you either borrow money elsewhere (debt) or cut budgets of other branches of government. I can almost see state universities depleting their MOB when the cash runs dry.

[Soo-yeon]

This was signed already effective next year (2018).

[mikeXXL]

1. give to deserving SUC students regardless of social strata.

2. students should pass a very stringent entrance examination.

3. they should have maintaining grades.

4. length of college schooling = length of government service after they graduate.

[huntforredoctober]

 

From your assumption, then I guess the majority of students who can avail the free tuition from SUCs belong to the middle class and the super rich (taipans). So how can students (coming from poor and indigent families) with just average intellect get their college education?

honestly we all know that there's a huge percentage of the student population who aren't all that serious with their studies. it's simply stupid to allot already scarce government funds to subsidize education costs for these students. poverty is a challenge but it doesn't necessarily mean ignorance or just having average intellect. education is mostly hard work and consistency in studying rather than pure inherent intelligence. we've already seen a lot of rags to riches stories where some poor unknown beats the odds and eventually graduates and succeeds in life. education is indeed a right but only to a certain degree. like in other countries, free education is only until high school. anything other than that is a priviledge, and if you're not gifted financially then you do have to work for it. the reason why they instigated the senior highschool system is to address the poor's issue of education. they're extending highschool and equipping studings graduating from senior high with enough knowledge to enable them to hold their own as part of the formal workforce. generally companies should then accept these new graduates as qualified workers unlike before. a college diploma then would only be a plus or for specialized positions requiring such diploma.