Apo Marcos : Facts And Myths

[juan t]

 

It may be fiction to you. But I personally believe that Marcos really have gold bars and bullion in UBS.

I have a friend whose father was a Philippine Air Force pilot. We were "Army brats" - children of military officers living in a military reservation.

She nonchalantly confided to me at one time that her father used to fly to Switzerland monthly in a private Lear jet to bring Marcos's gold to be deposited in Swiss banks.

This information is hearsay, but I can assure you it's not fake news.

That story may be true but the question is, where did that gold come from? If it was acquired legally, why would it have to be shipped to Swiss banks? ( By the way, Swiss banks are the favorite venues for criminals who want to hide their stolen wealth).

Edited January 13, 2018 by juan t

[camiar]

That story may be true but the question is, where did that gold come from? If it was acquired legally, why would it have to be shipped to Swiss banks (which by the way are the favorite venues for criminals to hide their stolen goods).

Now, that's for you to find out. From what I heard, they are from Benguet.

 

Wealthy people would put gold and money in Swiss banks because it is not taxed there.

 

The Rockefellers, Vanderbilts, Rothchilds, Sauds, Cargills, Macmillans, Bettencourts, and many rich families and businessmen put their money in Swiss banks, out of good financial management practice. Great majority of Swiss bank clients are not criminals, but astute businessmen and financial management agencies.

[juan t]

Now, that's for you to find out. From what I heard, they are from Benguet.

 

Wealthy people would put gold and money in Swiss banks because it is not taxed there.

 

The Rockefellers, Vanderbilts, Rothchilds, Sauds, Cargills, Macmillans, Bettencourts, and many rich families and businessmen put their money in Swiss banks, out of good financial management practice. Great majority of Swiss bank clients are not criminals, but astute businessmen and financial management agencies.

 

Sorry but having gold in your possession is not taxable here in the Philippines either. Unlike cash in banks, gold is non interest bearing.and therefore not taxable.

[camiar]

 

Sorry but having gold in your possession is not taxable here in the Philippines either. Unlike cash in banks, gold is non interest bearing.and therefore not taxable.

But dealing (buying and selling) gold is covered with excise and income tax. Unlike in Switzerland where it is tax free.

 

Even so, I won't hold that amount of gold bars in the Philippines. I would also put it in Switzerland if it were mine.

 

My point is, you don't have to be a criminal to put gold in a Swiss bank. You do it because it makes financial sense.

Edited January 13, 2018 by camiar

[juan t]

But dealing (buying and selling) gold is covered with excise and income tax. Unlike in Switzerland where it is tax free.

 

Even so, I won't hold that amount of gold bars in the Philippines. I would also put it in Switzerland if it were mine.

 

My point is, you don't have to be a criminal to put gold in a Swiss bank. You do it because it makes financial sense.

 

Please, wag na tayo mag lokohan dito. Do you even know the mechanics of trading gold or other precious metals? Normally, it is traded in an exchange like the stock market- all electronic transactions. But the way you describe it, parang alahero si Marcos na nag bebenta ng alahas. By the way, what was the name of his business again? Oh you dont know, thats funny, a multi-billion dollar business being run like a mom-and-pop operation with no trade name and no office, and no documentation whatsoever other than unverified stories from the internet.

 

And your only basis is the story of your friend saying that her father regularly flew gold for FEM to Switzerland.

And you didn't even bother to question where the gold came from!

[Bolj]

Read what again? List your source where it states that martial law victims where really not abused... and it better not come from some dubious website. Good luck with your search.

Another stupid reply, trying to change my point doesn't make you look smart brad. I said Some not all martial law victims as they claim. Your yellow media even reported it last year on TV patrol.

[juan t]

Another stupid reply, trying to change my point doesn't make you look smart brad. I said Some not all martial law victims as they claim. Your yellow media even reported it last year on TV patrol.

Change your point? Di ko nga ma-gets yung point mo e. Why even mention 'jaywalkers who were really not abused' if you are not trying to marginalize the victims of martial law?

[rooster69ph]

 

facts, myths o baka political joke?

[Bolj]

Change your point? Di ko nga ma-gets yung point mo e. Why even mention 'jaywalkers who were really not abused' if you are not trying to marginalize the victims of martial law?

D pala na gets tapos aarangkada agad, nvm brad no comment nalang.

 

@topic

 

Fact or Myth? Marcos is the better leader compared to the 3 Aquinos, Ninoy+Cory+NoyNoy.

[juan t]

 

Read and understand what Bolj said again. If you don't get it the first time, try and try until you succeed. He just mentioned it in passing. Masama ba magmarginalize kung hindi pa napatunayan? Mahirap nga talaga magexplain sa shunga.

 

 

D pala na gets tapos aarangkada agad, nvm brad no comment nalang.

 

 

 

Puro kayo satsat yet you still havent clarified your "point". Meron ka ba talagang "point" dito o puro nonsense lang and pinagsasabi mo?

[juan t]

Fact or Myth? Marcos is the better leader compared to the 3 Aquinos, Ninoy+Cory+NoyNoy.

 

 

A leader is measured by his accomplishments and how he governs. In terms of accomplishments and governance, Marcos is undisputedly better than these three despicable politicians.

 

Kung si JC ang tatanungin mo, syempre Marcos yan. Disillusioned yan eh. Hindi naniniwala sa atrocities ng martial law at hindi naniniwala sa mga pagnanakaw ng mga Marcos despite history books, news articles, court cases, documentaries, etc. Also despite having unexplained wealth enormously larger than their capacity to earn. Also despite our government already recovering billions worth of stolen assets from his estate. Logic niya: walang nakulong na Marcos, therefore malinis sila. Shunga shunga lang diba?

 

But why even compare the Marcoses to the Aquinos? Yan lang ba ang choice natin to rule our country? Kung ayaw niyo sa mga Aquino fine. Pero hindi ibig sabihin nun si Marcos nalang ang choice natin. Kingina, inabuso na nga tayo, ninakawan at napatalsik, tapos ngayon gusto niyong ibalik sa pwesto. Parang mga Estrada, Binay, Arroyo obvious na corrupt yet they remain in power. Tapos aangal ang mga pinoy na di maalis-alis ang corruption sa Pinas.

[haroots2]

Fact or Myth? Marcos is the better leader compared to the 3 Aquinos, Ninoy+Cory+NoyNoy.

 

Sa leadership skills I think may laban si Ninoy dito. The other 2 wala. The most important thing a leadership does is INFLUENCE. FM knows this that's why he made sure he will not get in his way.

Edited January 15, 2018 by haroots2

[Kingkongphils]

How is it that all history books, google, media companies point to Marcos as one of the most corrupt in the world but still the filipino people view him differently. Mas sikat pa nga cya kesa kay Ninoy, Cory etc.

[Bolj]

Puro kayo satsat yet you still havent clarified your "point". Meron ka ba talagang "point" dito o puro nonsense lang and pinagsasabi mo?

Ahaha lols, so far look around ikaw lang nagsabi wla. Arrogant ang dating wlang preno ang bunganga d naman pala na gets, congrats brad.

 

@topic

 

Haroots may point ka kay Ninoy, kaya lang d na natin ma prove yun kung sakaling naging presidente sya. Although Marcos himself said Ninoy would best fit his role.

Edited January 15, 2018 by Bolj

[juan t]

Ahaha lols, so far look around ikaw lang nagsabi wla. Arrogant ang dating wlang preno ang bunganga d naman pala na gets, congrats brad.

Again no clarification. Puro insulto lang. I'm beginning to think wala ka talagang "point" in the first place