Falling For A Client - The Other Side Of The Coin.

[Anonymous]

1 hour ago, Diamond of Ukiyo said:

Hoyyyy walaaaa hahaha ano ba naman yan! Hahahaha 

yes may mangilan ngilan akong kilala talaga na naging okay din nman, but may ilan na nakita ko na bumalik lang din sa industry. Actually if thera ka swerte ka kung nasave ka talaga like napag aral or nabigyan ng pang kabuhayan showcase hahaha pero sa dulong pisi nito thera talaga ang magdedecide kung isasalba mo sarili mo 

kung client ka naman swerte ka kung igigive up ni thera yung work nya for you para sa “fairy tale 🤢” nyo lalo na if top thera yan. 

 

pero sabi ko nga aba masamasahe lang para walang sikip sikip ng heart HAHAHAHAHAH
 

 

curious lang, yung mga thera na nakaalis sa industry naito ano ba ang go-to job/business na pinasukan, ano na ginagawa nila? yung mga top thera baka malaki talaga ang kita (kahit kumpara sa usual na gm) kaya malaki napupundar? 

[Anonymous]

2 hours ago, Guest Anonymous said:

curious lang, yung mga thera na nakaalis sa industry naito ano ba ang go-to job/business na pinasukan, ano na ginagawa nila? yung mga top thera baka malaki talaga ang kita (kahit kumpara sa usual na gm) kaya malaki napupundar? 

Actually malaki tlaga kitaan lalo na top thera ka. Ang kalaban lang naman dyan kung paano nila gagastusin ung pera nakuha nila

[Diamond of Ukiyo]

35 minutes ago, Guest Anonymous said:

Actually malaki tlaga kitaan lalo na top thera ka. Ang kalaban lang naman dyan kung paano nila gagastusin ung pera nakuha nila

Malaki nman talaga ang kitaan dto kahit di ka top thera kaya mo makaipon 

akala ng iba pinaka mahirao dito is mag ipon pero no, ayun yung pinaka madali gawin, pero ang pinaka mahirap doon kung saan ko gagastusin ang pera na naipon mo. 
minsan nahihirapan sila makaipon kesyo di sila top and paisa isang client lang, pero sa totoo lang kung ikukumpara mo sa normal na work mas malaki pa din kita ng mga thera ang kaso kasi pag laki ng kita nila pag laki Ng expenses and nag iiba na lifestyle nila na di na kayang isustain ng normal job. 

Oi haha di sa panggagaslight sa self ko ha as someone na nagwowork dito pero 
wala naman masama mag work sa ganitong industry ng mabilisan o matagal as long as alam mo san mo nilalagay ang pera mo,ipunin mo man yan o nagagastos mo sa pamilya mo.

 

2 hours ago, Guest Anonymous said:

curious lang, yung mga thera na nakaalis sa industry naito ano ba ang go-to job/business na pinasukan, ano na ginagawa nila? yung mga top thera baka malaki talaga ang kita (kahit kumpara sa usual na gm) kaya malaki napupundar? 

Usually yung iba nag bubusiness or nag iibang bansa.

 

Lahat nman ata ng therapist sumasagi sa isip nila anong gagawin nila after nito. 
Karamihan samin walang fall back walang back up plan kasi sila yung naging back up plan Ng family nila, ng mga kapatid nila sila yung breadwinner, sila nag step up para makapag patuloy yung iba.

as someone na nagwowork dito kadalasan nakikita ko yung iba na nagbubusiness kasi siguro nga hnd na kaya tapatan ng normal job yung kinasanayan unless choice mo talaga yan pero karamihan business talaga pero kung ako lang tatanungin nung mga bago pa lang na thera lagi ko silang sinasabihan na mag aral sila,kung ayaw nman nila mag business sila pero kaya mo naman kasi pag sabayin yan may nga schools na nag ooffer ng program like ETEEAP

kasi di habang buhay nag eexist yung industry na toh kung oo man may kanya kanya kaming expiration kumbaga iisang cycle lang yan may maluluma at bagong papalit na variant hahahaahah 

[plug]

On 4/7/2026 at 4:14 AM, sugarfreeze01 said:

I used to think money solved everything.
Every other Friday night, I’d walk into that dimly lit spa—not really for the massage, if I’m being honest. It was routine at first. A way to unwind. A place where everything felt controlled, predictable… transactional.
Then I met her.
She wasn’t the most striking in the room, not the loudest, not the one who tried the hardest to get attention. But she had this quiet way about her—soft voice, steady hands, eyes that looked like they were always somewhere else. The first time we talked, it wasn’t about services or tips. It was about her hometown, her younger siblings, how she missed simple things like eating dinner with her family.
That’s how it started.
Week after week, I kept coming back. Not because I needed what the place offered—but because I wanted to see her. I started staying longer, talking more. I told myself I understood her situation. Told myself I could help.
Eventually, I made an offer. Not the kind you’d expect in that place—I told her I’d help her get out. Find a job. Start over. I’d support her while she figured things out. I thought it was noble. Maybe even heroic.
She smiled… but it wasn’t the kind of smile I hoped for.
She didn’t say yes. She didn’t say no either. She just said, “Hindi ganun kadali.”
And I didn’t listen.
I kept pushing. Kept insisting. I thought persistence meant sincerity. I thought my intentions were enough to change her reality.
But one night, she stopped me.
She said, “You only see the part of me you want to save. Hindi mo nakikita lahat.”
That hit harder than I expected.
Turns out, her life wasn’t a simple problem waiting for a solution. There were debts, responsibilities, choices I didn’t understand, and a world I had no place in. And maybe… she didn’t want to be “saved” the way I imagined.
After that, things changed. Conversations became shorter. The distance grew. Until one day, she was just… gone.
No goodbye. No closure.
I stopped going to that place.
Looking back, I realize something uncomfortable: I wasn’t in love with her—I was in love with the idea of being the one who could save her.
And that’s a dangerous kind of love.
Because sometimes, people don’t need saving.
And sometimes, you’re not the hero in their story—you’re just a passing chapter.

Maaaring maayos at 'magaling' si girl. Marahil kaya niyang lutasin kung ano man problema by her own will at ayaw niyang tumanaw ng utang na loob. Pwede rin naisip niya na baka sa huli hanapan siya ng kapalit at away lang ang pupuntahan sakaling tumanggi siya.

Nakapag magandang loob din naman ako sa isang elusive na thera dahil sa restrictions kaya considered kong big challenge.

Nakatatlo ata akong kuha sa kanya ng walang nangyayari dahil I was trying to have her in my own liking. Hanggang na raid ang spakol kasama siya sa na detained. Nagka trauma so she decided to return to her work in Japan. 

The same spakol reopened and we met. Nasabi niya ang kanyang plano at may schedule na siya ng pag alis papuntang Japan. Mag duty raw siya ng ilan araw lang para pang baon then mag resign. Nag offer ako ng financial in exchange hindi siya mag duty para mag prepare na lang for her travel ng walang kapalit. I consider it my final goodbye and good luck. Nahihiya daw siya. What she did was to set a date for us to meet at siyempre ibibigay niya ang aking gustong mangyari. Hiniram ang aking cp, went to the restroom and took a pic of her pussy to show na siryoso siya.

In her last four days ata na duty nag text sa akin to confirm kung makikipagkita ako sa kanya. Nagsinungaling ako ng dahilan kaya hindi natuloy ang meet. I have decided na kalimutan ko na lang siya tutal aalis na rin lang.

She resigned at nawalan na rin kami ng communication kung natuloy siya ng Japan.

The amount I want to give her was 50k pero kung nag meet kami for a session I will only give her 20k na may dagdag. Unprotected sex yan as she knew I was hoping for.

Nawala man siya, napapatingin na lang ako sa aking cp with the pic on it.

In another spa naglabas ako ng 18-year-old na newbie. Balik siya sa school with my financial assistance. After a little more than 2 years binitawan ko for my own personal reason.

She was a virgin when I had her pero di ko kinuha ang kanyang virginity. Marahil I was too considerate or nakonsiyensya. Bali what I did to her were romance, daty and partial penetration or sliding in the y. I felt satisfied and enough.

After years, I checked her fb at dalaga pa rin na may decent na trabaho somewhere in the north. Di ko lang masabi kung virgin pa.     

[Anonymous]

15 hours ago, Diamond of Ukiyo said:

Malaki nman talaga ang kitaan dto kahit di ka top thera kaya mo makaipon 

akala ng iba pinaka mahirao dito is mag ipon pero no, ayun yung pinaka madali gawin, pero ang pinaka mahirap doon kung saan ko gagastusin ang pera na naipon mo. 
minsan nahihirapan sila makaipon kesyo di sila top and paisa isang client lang, pero sa totoo lang kung ikukumpara mo sa normal na work mas malaki pa din kita ng mga thera ang kaso kasi pag laki ng kita nila pag laki Ng expenses and nag iiba na lifestyle nila na di na kayang isustain ng normal job. 

Oi haha di sa panggagaslight sa self ko ha as someone na nagwowork dito pero 
wala naman masama mag work sa ganitong industry ng mabilisan o matagal as long as alam mo san mo nilalagay ang pera mo,ipunin mo man yan o nagagastos mo sa pamilya mo.

 

Usually yung iba nag bubusiness or nag iibang bansa.

 

Lahat nman ata ng therapist sumasagi sa isip nila anong gagawin nila after nito. 
Karamihan samin walang fall back walang back up plan kasi sila yung naging back up plan Ng family nila, ng mga kapatid nila sila yung breadwinner, sila nag step up para makapag patuloy yung iba.

as someone na nagwowork dito kadalasan nakikita ko yung iba na nagbubusiness kasi siguro nga hnd na kaya tapatan ng normal job yung kinasanayan unless choice mo talaga yan pero karamihan business talaga pero kung ako lang tatanungin nung mga bago pa lang na thera lagi ko silang sinasabihan na mag aral sila,kung ayaw nman nila mag business sila pero kaya mo naman kasi pag sabayin yan may nga schools na nag ooffer ng program like ETEEAP

kasi di habang buhay nag eexist yung industry na toh kung oo man may kanya kanya kaming expiration kumbaga iisang cycle lang yan may maluluma at bagong papalit na variant hahahaahah 

kung nag ibang bansa, iba na yung pinapasukan nila? parang intindi ko yung iba ganoon parin bagsak nila sa ibang bansa pero hindi nila dinidiretso. 

re: business, nakakasurvive yung mga thera na kilala mo? minsan kasi  cutthroat yung negosyo sa atin tapos hindi lahat kikita ng malaki. Naimagine ko baka kapag nagkumpara kayo maliit masyado yung isang buwan na kita ng minimum wage o rank and file sa 2 booking as a thera sa isang araw? Sa negosyo naman yung mga madalas pasukan kasi madali simulan manipis ang kita or net margin. 

[Anonymous]

16 hours ago, Diamond of Ukiyo said:

The income here is really big, even if you're not top there, you can save money. 

Some people think that the easiest way to do this is to save money, but no, that's the easiest thing to do, but the hardest part is where to spend the money you've saved. 
Sometimes they have a hard time saving money, because they're not the best and only have one client at a time, but in reality, if you compare it to normal work, the income of therapists is even bigger because when their income increases, their expenses increase, and their lifestyle changes, which a normal job can no longer sustain. 

Oh, haha, not to make light of myself, as someone who works here, but 
there's nothing wrong with working in this industry for a short time or a long time as long as you know where you're putting your money, whether you're saving it or spending it on your family.

 

Usually others are doing business or moving abroad.

 

I think all therapists are wondering what they will do after this. 
Most of us have no fall back, no back up plan because they were the back up plan of their family, of their siblings, they were the breadwinners, they stepped up so that others could continue.

As someone who works here, I often see others doing business because maybe they can't do what they're used to with a normal job unless it's your choice, but most of them are really into business, but if I were to ask the new ones, I would always tell them to study, if they don't want to do business, they can, but you can do it together because there are schools that offer programs like ETEEAP.

because this industry doesn't exist forever, even if it does, we all have our own expiration dates, it's just one cycle, with variants that will fade and be replaced by new ones hahahaahah 

Do most theras have a time deadline like 35 or 40 before they consider retirement? Or a financial goal like amassing 5 million or 10 million php before they retire?  Or is it the age of their child like when he reaches 13, then the thera will retire?

[Maumau123456]

Hello sa tagal kong thera jan thankful at sa dami ko hiv test negative lahat! Never makakaipon ng million jan sa mp, ang diskarte jan makakahanp ng guest na milyonaryo an pahihintuin ka sa work at kaya ka buhayin! Marami kwento ng thera jan yung iba nag for good sa ibang bansa nakilala lang dun..  yung friend ko? Nasa australia na, iba iba kapalaran masaklap pag 30s kana hndi kana tatanggapin jan sa mp lalo jan sa q ave nakakahiya na mag apply kaya payo ko sa thera hanggat may ganda at utak gamitin talga! Dami jan sila ang bumubuhay sa lalake saka buong angkan! Yung iba ginawang career kmusta namn phuke mu jan teh maawa ka nmn sa katawan lupa mo dba. Yung jowa ko now guest nakilala ko sa genie. May negosyo at paupahan sya ako humahawak ng pera nya. Mag 3yrs na kami. No no no no.

[Anonymous]

1 hour ago, Guest Anonymous said:

Do most theras have a time deadline like 35 or 40 before they consider retirement? Or a financial goal like amassing 5 million or 10 million php before they retire?  Or is it the age of their child like when he reaches 13, then the thera will retire?

may podcast sa youtube ito rin topic pero target nila foreigners base sa podcast masyadong malayo o mataas estimate mo. six digits are target nila malamang kasama rin kasi yung cost of living at yung iba may luho rin kaya nagbaback to 0.

[Lee Cooper]

22 hours ago, Guest Anonymous said:

may nakwento rin sa akin na yung thera nahuli si Loverboy tapos nagpakalokloko si LB sa point na laki na ng gastos at hindi nakikinig sa iba.

May thera ako naencounter na parang gusto magpasave pero hindi ko papatulan yun. 

may kwento sa comments section na binabahay yung mga thera. Maliban doon panoorin mo yung movie na Maryang Palad kasi happy ending yun. 🤣 

Sana meron sa Netflix para mapanood ko. Title pa lang parang magkakakalyo na ako sa kamay.... hehehe

[Tenuit]

1 minute ago, Lee Cooper said:

Sana meron sa Netflix para mapanood ko. Title pa lang parang magkakakalyo na ako sa kamay.... hehehe

LB ka kasi. Haha pm mo ko, free naman yung movie at natapos ko na kaso finafast forward ko. 

[Lee Cooper]

1 hour ago, Maumau123456 said:

Hello sa tagal kong thera jan thankful at sa dami ko hiv test negative lahat! Never makakaipon ng million jan sa mp, ang diskarte jan makakahanp ng guest na milyonaryo an pahihintuin ka sa work at kaya ka buhayin! Marami kwento ng thera jan yung iba nag for good sa ibang bansa nakilala lang dun..  yung friend ko? Nasa australia na, iba iba kapalaran masaklap pag 30s kana hndi kana tatanggapin jan sa mp lalo jan sa q ave nakakahiya na mag apply kaya payo ko sa thera hanggat may ganda at utak gamitin talga! Dami jan sila ang bumubuhay sa lalake saka buong angkan! Yung iba ginawang career kmusta namn phuke mu jan teh maawa ka nmn sa katawan lupa mo dba. Yung jowa ko now guest nakilala ko sa genie. May negosyo at paupahan sya ako humahawak ng pera nya. Mag 3yrs na kami. No no no no.

High risk ang job, pero high rewards. Oo yung iba, sila ang nagbabayad ng motor ng dyowa nya, habang yung dyowa nya nasa ktv bar dinidiskartehan yung bagong GRO. 

Isa ka sa na sa nakajackpot, heheheh....pahiram 2,500 naman dyan 😁😁😁

[Lee Cooper]

17 hours ago, plug said:

Maaaring maayos at 'magaling' si girl. Marahil kaya niyang lutasin kung ano man problema by her own will at ayaw niyang tumanaw ng utang na loob. Pwede rin naisip niya na baka sa huli hanapan siya ng kapalit at away lang ang pupuntahan sakaling tumanggi siya.

Nakapag magandang loob din naman ako sa isang elusive na thera dahil sa restrictions kaya considered kong big challenge.

Nakatatlo ata akong kuha sa kanya ng walang nangyayari dahil I was trying to have her in my own liking. Hanggang na raid ang spakol kasama siya sa na detained. Nagka trauma so she decided to return to her work in Japan. 

The same spakol reopened and we met. Nasabi niya ang kanyang plano at may schedule na siya ng pag alis papuntang Japan. Mag duty raw siya ng ilan araw lang para pang baon then mag resign. Nag offer ako ng financial in exchange hindi siya mag duty para mag prepare na lang for her travel ng walang kapalit. I consider it my final goodbye and good luck. Nahihiya daw siya. What she did was to set a date for us to meet at siyempre ibibigay niya ang aking gustong mangyari. Hiniram ang aking cp, went to the restroom and took a pic of her pussy to show na siryoso siya.

In her last four days ata na duty nag text sa akin to confirm kung makikipagkita ako sa kanya. Nagsinungaling ako ng dahilan kaya hindi natuloy ang meet. I have decided na kalimutan ko na lang siya tutal aalis na rin lang.

She resigned at nawalan na rin kami ng communication kung natuloy siya ng Japan.

The amount I want to give her was 50k pero kung nag meet kami for a session I will only give her 20k na may dagdag. Unprotected sex yan as she knew I was hoping for.

Nawala man siya, napapatingin na lang ako sa aking cp with the pic on it.

In another spa naglabas ako ng 18-year-old na newbie. Balik siya sa school with my financial assistance. After a little more than 2 years binitawan ko for my own personal reason.

She was a virgin when I had her pero di ko kinuha ang kanyang virginity. Marahil I was too considerate or nakonsiyensya. Bali what I did to her were romance, daty and partial penetration or sliding in the y. I felt satisfied and enough.

After years, I checked her fb at dalaga pa rin na may decent na trabaho somewhere in the north. Di ko lang masabi kung virgin pa.     

Good for you. Swerte ang thera sayo Bossing. Ask ko lang, musta ang inbox mo sir ngayon? Malamang dami na nagmemessage sayo ngayon. Hehehe 😁

Hope you dont mind me for asking this question, naexperience mo na ba na madeceive ng thera, yung napaniwala ka nya sa story nya na half true but half lie. Tinulungan mo pero, di naman umalis sa job nya? 🤔🤔🤔

Edited April 9 by Lee Cooper

[Lee Cooper]

17 hours ago, Diamond of Ukiyo said:

Malaki nman talaga ang kitaan dto kahit di ka top thera kaya mo makaipon 

akala ng iba pinaka mahirao dito is mag ipon pero no, ayun yung pinaka madali gawin, pero ang pinaka mahirap doon kung saan ko gagastusin ang pera na naipon mo. 
minsan nahihirapan sila makaipon kesyo di sila top and paisa isang client lang, pero sa totoo lang kung ikukumpara mo sa normal na work mas malaki pa din kita ng mga thera ang kaso kasi pag laki ng kita nila pag laki Ng expenses and nag iiba na lifestyle nila na di na kayang isustain ng normal job. 

Oi haha di sa panggagaslight sa self ko ha as someone na nagwowork dito pero 
wala naman masama mag work sa ganitong industry ng mabilisan o matagal as long as alam mo san mo nilalagay ang pera mo,ipunin mo man yan o nagagastos mo sa pamilya mo.

 

Usually yung iba nag bubusiness or nag iibang bansa.

 

Lahat nman ata ng therapist sumasagi sa isip nila anong gagawin nila after nito. 
Karamihan samin walang fall back walang back up plan kasi sila yung naging back up plan Ng family nila, ng mga kapatid nila sila yung breadwinner, sila nag step up para makapag patuloy yung iba.

as someone na nagwowork dito kadalasan nakikita ko yung iba na nagbubusiness kasi siguro nga hnd na kaya tapatan ng normal job yung kinasanayan unless choice mo talaga yan pero karamihan business talaga pero kung ako lang tatanungin nung mga bago pa lang na thera lagi ko silang sinasabihan na mag aral sila,kung ayaw nman nila mag business sila pero kaya mo naman kasi pag sabayin yan may nga schools na nag ooffer ng program like ETEEAP

kasi di habang buhay nag eexist yung industry na toh kung oo man may kanya kanya kaming expiration kumbaga iisang cycle lang yan may maluluma at bagong papalit na variant hahahaahah 

Oo nga, ang isang sales lady sa mall, kumikita ng humigit kumulang ng 15k a month, samantalang ang thera kikitain nya lang yan sa isang araw at nakahiga pa... hehehe

Tama ka nga, ang problem ni thera ay kung paano gastusin ang kita nya. Yung ibang dalagang thera, nasa gimikan o di kaya nasa casino lagi. Pero yung iba mautak, iniipon ang pera, nagpapagawa ng bahay o di kaya nag-aabroad. 

[sneepur]

18 hours ago, Diamond of Ukiyo said:

Malaki nman talaga ang kitaan dto kahit di ka top thera kaya mo makaipon 

akala ng iba pinaka mahirao dito is mag ipon pero no, ayun yung pinaka madali gawin, pero ang pinaka mahirap doon kung saan ko gagastusin ang pera na naipon mo. 
minsan nahihirapan sila makaipon kesyo di sila top and paisa isang client lang, pero sa totoo lang kung ikukumpara mo sa normal na work mas malaki pa din kita ng mga thera ang kaso kasi pag laki ng kita nila pag laki Ng expenses and nag iiba na lifestyle nila na di na kayang isustain ng normal job. 

Oi haha di sa panggagaslight sa self ko ha as someone na nagwowork dito pero 
wala naman masama mag work sa ganitong industry ng mabilisan o matagal as long as alam mo san mo nilalagay ang pera mo,ipunin mo man yan o nagagastos mo sa pamilya mo.

 

Usually yung iba nag bubusiness or nag iibang bansa.

 

Lahat nman ata ng therapist sumasagi sa isip nila anong gagawin nila after nito. 
Karamihan samin walang fall back walang back up plan kasi sila yung naging back up plan Ng family nila, ng mga kapatid nila sila yung breadwinner, sila nag step up para makapag patuloy yung iba.

as someone na nagwowork dito kadalasan nakikita ko yung iba na nagbubusiness kasi siguro nga hnd na kaya tapatan ng normal job yung kinasanayan unless choice mo talaga yan pero karamihan business talaga pero kung ako lang tatanungin nung mga bago pa lang na thera lagi ko silang sinasabihan na mag aral sila,kung ayaw nman nila mag business sila pero kaya mo naman kasi pag sabayin yan may nga schools na nag ooffer ng program like ETEEAP

kasi di habang buhay nag eexist yung industry na toh kung oo man may kanya kanya kaming expiration kumbaga iisang cycle lang yan may maluluma at bagong papalit na variant hahahaahah 

sarap siguro pakinggan mga kwento pati thoughts mo sa podcast. daming magandang insights

[Lee Cooper]

On 4/9/2026 at 7:08 PM, Tenuit said:

LB ka kasi. Haha pm mo ko, free naman yung movie at natapos ko na kaso finafast forward ko. 

Sir Bossing, napanood ko na.... hehehe.. kaya pala Maryang Palad eh, panalo mag-massage. Pero mas gusto ko yung panalong gumiling.. hehehe 😁😁😁