Falling For A Client - The Other Side Of The Coin.

[sam_morris01]

Interesting thought Mia... I'm surprised you're leaving soon. We haven't met in person, but I wish you well and all the best in your future endeavors...

 

Now back to topic, thank you Sir Alex for opening this thread. This is really interesting... hope more can share their stories or real life experiences...

 

More power to everybody and have a blessed afternoon... Stay dry and safe.

[terry bolea]

correct lang kita mia, hindi pagiging racist ang sinabi mo, ang definition ng racism ay "discrimination against people of different race/nationality." mababa ang tingin sa ibang lahi.

 

yung sinabi mo is "Classism, discrimination against people of low social class". mababa ang tingin sa mahihirap

[haroots2]

Most women in this industry are not educated and yes, most of them are from the slams which means, cheaper attitude, no brains. I am not generalizing everyone but most of these women have no etiquette and no eloquent reason to be in the corporate world.

 

 

I truely agree with this. Kaya yung mga relationships as nagiging marriage/live-in by convenience. The thera will be financially stable and will be able to help her family while the GM will be very much content kasi realistically he won't get a young beautiful girl that's outside this kind of industry. Kesa tumikim ng iba ibang lalaki, pipiliin nalang ng thera sa isa na alam naman niya na mahal siya. Pwede naman kasi iisipin ng thera na matututuahn ko naman siyang mahalin.

Edited October 19, 2015 by haroots2

[Mistress Mia]

correct lang kita mia, hindi pagiging racist ang sinabi mo, ang definition ng racism ay "discrimination against people of different race/nationality." mababa ang tingin sa ibang lahi.

 

yung sinabi mo is "Classism, discrimination against people of low social class". mababa ang tingin sa mahihirap

Thank you for correcting me. I'll take note of that. I believe that racism can take the form of social actions, practices or beliefs, or political systems that consider different races and classes to be ranked as inherently superior or inferior to each other, based on presumed shared inheritable traits, abilities, or qualities. It may also hold that members of different races should be treated differently.

 

But yours is much better word. Kudos!

[Mistress Mia]

I truely agree with this. Kaya yung mga relationships as nagiging marriage/live-in by convenience. The thera will be financially stable and will be able to help her family while the GM will be very much content kasi realistically he won't get a young beautiful girl that's outside this kind of industry. Kesa tumikim ng iba ibang lalaki, pipiliin nalang ng thera sa isa na alam naman niya na mahal siya. Pwede naman kasi iisipin ng thera na matututuahn ko naman siyang mahalin.

Thank you.

Edited October 19, 2015 by Mistress Mia

[temurlenk]

In my opinion it is more convenient or "safer" for a thera (or similar profession) to fall for a client rather than a guy who she just randomly met outside the industry. GMs are more capable of understanding her situation and act accordingly (if the girl is lucky enough). It's stil a bit risky for the girl and there's no guarantee that the relationship will last but the acceptance is there already which makes the road easier for her. There is of course a danger that the GM is only after free unlimited sex with a young bautiful girl who is out of his league which we often hear and read on some threads. Sex is ofcourse normal and something guys are always after wether his gf works as a bank teller, teacher or thera, so there's no difference in that department. But I still want to hear the girl's stand regarding this touchy subject.

[syowx999]

interesting topic.

 

because of everyones input, i remembered something that a friend said.

 

Friend 1: " hey guys i just met maria ozawa!"

Crew: "ooohhh congrats! (and then usual guy stuff)"

..

Friend 1: "she shook my hand, ugh!"

"i immediately washed my hand, how many d***s..."

 

..

and this was a decent guy, gentleman, wont touch someone who has a boyfriend even if the girl was the one to initiate.

 

its sad how some people no matter how smart they are and even if they have a good upbringing , can still say something like this.

 

people (me and women) should be more educated and look at this from a larger perspective and not from what... whatever it is that degrade people who work in this industry.

 

PSE's do this as a job, and they are looked down upon, but i know people who just f#&k around for free and you dont hear people bad mouthing them like that.

 

even if you look at this from a logical point of view, it makes sense, at least for me (and the numbers).

 

 

 

we are human, it is normal to fall. how many people go through with love even though they know it might hurt them in the future?

the pain is worth it, at least for those moments.

[Edmund Dantes]

interesting topic.

 

because of everyones input, i remembered something that a friend said.

 

Friend 1: " hey guys i just met maria ozawa!"

Crew: "ooohhh congrats! (and then usual guy stuff)"

..

Friend 1: "she shook my hand, ugh!"

"i immediately washed my hand, how many d***s..."

 

..

and this was a decent guy, gentleman, wont touch someone who has a boyfriend even if the girl was the one to initiate.

 

its sad how some people no matter how smart they are and even if they have a good upbringing , can still say something like this.

 

people (me and women) should be more educated and look at this from a larger perspective and not from what... whatever it is that degrade people who work in this industry.

 

PSE's do this as a job, and they are looked down upon, but i know people who just f#&k around for free and you dont hear people bad mouthing them like that.

 

even if you look at this from a logical point of view, it makes sense, at least for me (and the numbers).

 

 

 

we are human, it is normal to fall. how many people go through with love even though they know it might hurt them in the future?

the pain is worth it, at least for those moments.

 

Just because you do not endorse these kind of relationship setup, it does not mean minamaliit dito yung babae. Yung mga linya like "tao din naman sila na me karapatan magmahal".. save it for the Aga Muhlach movies. Magandan pakingan, pero sa totoong mundo to make a relationship work, you need trust security mutual respect and most of all maturity. Anybody can fall in love, but only a mature person makes a relationship work.

 

If you wanna fall in love and be in a serious relationship, then leave the industry and start clean. Its that simple really. I mean you make sacrifices to nurture a healthy relationship.

 

Isa pa, sorry sa mga tatamaan dito, pero I have to say it prangkahan lang.

 

Nakakainis kasi yung mga taong akala mo kung sinong white knight na pinagtatangol mga babaeng nasa ganitong kalakal kunwari, pero paglipat naman sa kabilang thread sila pa bubugaw sa kanila. Kwekwento yung maruruming detalye ng serbisyo sa kanila as if parang medallion itong mga babae na kinukwintas.

[RED2018]

Just because you do not endorse these kind of relationship setup, it does not mean minamaliit dito yung babae. Yung mga linya like "tao din naman sila na me karapatan magmahal".. save it for the Aga Muhlach movies. Magandan pakingan, pero sa totoong mundo to make a relationship work, you need trust security mutual respect and most of all maturity. Anybody can fall in love, but only a mature person makes a relationship work.

 

If you wanna fall in love and be in a serious relationship, then leave the industry and start clean. Its that simple really. I mean you make sacrifices to nurture a healthy relationship.

 

Isa pa, sorry sa mga tatamaan dito, pero I have to say it prangkahan lang.

 

Nakakainis kasi yung mga taong akala mo kung sinong white knight na pinagtatangol mga babaeng nasa ganitong kalakal kunwari, pero paglipat naman sa kabilang thread sila pa bubugaw sa kanila. Kwekwento yung maruruming detalye ng serbisyo sa kanila as if parang medallion itong mga babae na kinukwintas.

I agree with the above discourse...

 

Madalas ang may semblance ng dalisay na pagtatangi at respeto sa mga babaeng ito ay yaung ginagawa sa tunay na kalagayan, at hindi ikinukwento dito sa forum. Mas malamang na ayaw nila itong malaman pa ng iba...hindi ko sinasabing lahat...kanya nga ang operative word ay madalas...

[r35gtr]

People are often times angry of girls looking for financers or sponsors. They said, they are gold digging bitches. Well, for me nowadays, I don't see anything bad about the logic. Before, I used to disagree with this thought. I was too naive that there are loyal and faithful men. That love conquers all. But I was wrong. I was wronged many many times.

 

Now, it seems like I can even be proud and secured to have one. Why? It's because love nowadays are merely fantasy. We women are so vulnerable about men's false promises and we ended up expecting for the false hopes. Men use women for their pleasure and satisfaction and women let men use them for free. By expecting of the chances that "Baka mabago ko siya". We often times mistaken love for the need of companionship. Well, that's a win lose situation

 

I have seen the world much farther than the rest. More than cheating women, I have personally seen hundred and probably thousands of cheating men.

 

So as for me, men that finance women are generous and worth it. You may call me a bitch but I am jelous and proud of women that does the kink. I must commend their tactics for they have been using themselves to take care of themselves and do offer their service in exchange for the gratitude. They are practical and I must say good.

 

How do they do it? I don't know but from my point of view, with the generation we have, I cannot judge them anymore.

 

 

 

Although I don't generalize all men and women, therapists are human too. They feel the power of connection. They ofcourse experience jealousy. They feel the uttermost ego destroying thought of "I have given my best but why is he still looking for someone else?" especially if there was the spark between the two of them.

 

As for me, if you are really so into her, you will save her from the life and dignity destroying job. But if you are not doing anything to uplift her, then blaming her for providing a service is not for you.

 

You met her in that way, you know what she's doing, making her stop without you giving her security is like taking her capability of living and earning especially if she has no choice but to end up in that position.

 

 

 

Nice Reply, I like your honesty.

 

my question is, paano if di na nagbibigay si guy ng pera, will he still be loved?

[r35gtr]

On the other thread "Falling for Therapist" majority of the comments seems to malign the therapists, psps and MPAs. Na kesyo mangagamit lang sila, or wag magpakatanga ang GM. (majority not all)

 

Let's hear the side of the girls. I'm sure some of them really did fall in love naman.

 

So ladies, what happened when you fell in love with a client? Did you get hurt when they availed other girls? How did you manage your relationship?

Other questions I have are

 

1. did they tell you na hindi na sila kukuya ng iba?

 

2. Tinanong niyo kung may asawa sila? totoo ba ang sinagot nila?

 

3. Galante ba sa umpisa then nagging kuripot sa dulo?

 

4. did you go out on movie dates?

 

5. pag nag aaway kayo , does he bring up your past job?

[Cool Fool]

I think in this situation mahirap para sa babae na umalis nalang ng kusa sa trabaho nya for the sake of love. I think for most of them mas iiral pa din ang pamilya na kelangan suportahan. I think it's safe to say that most of them are in this industry not to support their lifestyle or luho but to feed their families since madami sa kanila ang bread winner. Many of these girls are single parents who have been exposed to this kind of trade as a means to earn big (although nahirapan din magipon dahil madaming umaasa sa kanila).

A GM walking in a club or spa looking for "love" or a serious relationship is ofcourse unnatural and rare but it happens nonetheless and may mga thera din jan na pumapatol wether naiinlove din sila or nasisilaw sa mga pangako. We cannot deny the fact that most of these girls need security and/or a stable future more than anything else and it doesn't matter kung matanda or bata or hindi gwapo ang makakapag provide nito sa kanila. Sa ganyang sitwasyon madami din sa kanila ang naiipit at nahihirapan magdesisyon na umalis sa ganyang trabaho as they are also aware na hindi rin nila dapat ituloy ang ganyang profession kung may seryosong relationship sila with a guy who they consider "decent" or respectable.

To be blunt (tabi-tabi po), pera-pera lang din yan. If a guy can provide support for the girl AND her family then most of her problems are solved already and it makes it easier for her to decide wether or not she will leave sex industry ASAP. That is why hindi rin sila basta-basta pumapatol kung kanikanino lang- lalo na sa walang ability magbigay ng financial support sa kanila or masmaliit pa kita sa kanila. I hope guys are aware of this before they decide to "fall in love" with a thera or similar profession. I also hope the girls who are witnessing and experiencing the same issues can come out and share their experience para masmaliwanagan lahat.

 

I respect your opinion sir there is truth in what you said. It is convenient for a girl to leave the industry if may provider or benefactor. But for the sake of a healthy conversation, what if love is not what is convenient? Since true love rarely is what is easy.

Edited October 20, 2015 by Cool Fool

[temurlenk]

 

I respect your opinion sir there is truth in what you said. It is convenient for a girl to leave the industry if may provider or benefactor. But for the sake of a healthy conversation, what if love is not what is convenient? Since true love rarely is what is easy.

I have read about certain MTC members (male and female) na "nainlove" and positive naman ung feedback nila. But they had to go through the eye of a needle para ma achieve nila ung relationship na meron sila ngayon. It's not impossible, but it's no cake-walk either. The big question is, is it worth it? For me, I wouldn't walk into a spa thinking na may makakarelasyon ako sa isa sa mga babaeng magbibigay ng serbisyo sakin. Ang mental state ko is, I pay someone to make me happy for a while then I walk out with a smile, that's it. Paglabas ko sa pinto ang nasa isip ko nalang is, "was it money and time well spent?". Life can be simple if you choose to stay away from comlpications.

[Mistress Mia]

 

I agree with this post. From my personal experience it is folly to be in a serious relationship if for example you are working in a normal and the girl is still in the sex industry. Sacrifice is needed from both, not only from the guy.

 

If you really love the guy, leave the industry, no ifs and buts. I'm sure that if both work hard and sacrifice for the relationship there may be a chance. Kapag may condition na aalis ako pero buhayin mo ako, nasan ang love doon?

Where is also the love when you can't support her? When you can't save her? Where you can't give her security? Where you are allowing her to whore herself just because you can't work extra or double or you can't give up your vices for her? Remember, she is whoring herself for money. To support her family. You will come. Love her and love takes sacrifices and understanding. So if you're a guy who's ok to say you love someone yet you're good with her doing hj, bj or sex with other men, are you even a man?

 

You are ought to work for women. To support women. If you can't do it for her, don't take her.

 

Nice Reply, I like your honesty.

 

my question is, paano if di na nagbibigay si guy ng pera, will he still be loved?

I think the other GMs have answered this very question.

 

I think in this situation mahirap para sa babae na umalis nalang ng kusa sa trabaho nya for the sake of love. I think for most of them mas iiral pa din ang pamilya na kelangan suportahan. I think it's safe to say that most of them are in this industry not to support their lifestyle or luho but to feed their families since madami sa kanila ang bread winner. Many of these girls are single parents who have been exposed to this kind of trade as a means to earn big (although nahirapan din magipon dahil madaming umaasa sa kanila).

A GM walking in a club or spa looking for "love" or a serious relationship is ofcourse unnatural and rare but it happens nonetheless and may mga thera din jan na pumapatol wether naiinlove din sila or nasisilaw sa mga pangako. We cannot deny the fact that most of these girls need security and/or a stable future more than anything else and it doesn't matter kung matanda or bata or hindi gwapo ang makakapag provide nito sa kanila. Sa ganyang sitwasyon madami din sa kanila ang naiipit at nahihirapan magdesisyon na umalis sa ganyang trabaho as they are also aware na hindi rin nila dapat ituloy ang ganyang profession kung may seryosong relationship sila with a guy who they consider "decent" or respectable.

To be blunt (tabi-tabi po), pera-pera lang din yan. If a guy can provide support for the girl AND her family then most of her problems are solved already and it makes it easier for her to decide wether or not she will leave sex industry ASAP. That is why hindi rin sila basta-basta pumapatol kung kanikanino lang- lalo na sa walang ability magbigay ng financial support sa kanila or masmaliit pa kita sa kanila. I hope guys are aware of this before they decide to "fall in love" with a thera or similar profession. I also hope the girls who are witnessing and experiencing the same issues can come out and share their experience para masmaliwanagan lahat.

Fierce answer. This is what I want everyone to understand.

 

actualy the loosing of Dignity is a two way street di lang sa babae. If need to guy mag pay then there is something wrong with him, is it his looks, his self esteem? his nagging wife?

 

its hard to talk about dignity while we are in this IP adress kasi we are here because ... let's face it.. there is something wrong with us. do not be the guy to tell me that we are not in this website to look for encounters (sports daw gusto niya dito).

Mind you, there are super handsome guys who goes here. I have met a lot. There are celebrities, TV anchors and etc.

 

So to those being so extra careful and discreet, "showbiz?" Lol. Dinaig mo pa artista. Use VPN or igcognito. Lol!

 

I respect your opinion sir there is truth in what you said. It is convenient for a girl to leave the industry if may provider or benefactor. But for the sake of a healthy conversation, what if love is not what is convenient? Since true love rarely is what is easy.

 

The reason for support is not needed. You know why they entered the business. It's because they can't in the corporate world. Right?

 

I have read about certain MTC members (male and female) na "nainlove" and positive naman ung feedback nila. But they had to go through the eye of a needle para ma achieve nila ung relationship na meron sila ngayon. It's not impossible, but it's no cake-walk either. The big question is, is it worth it? For me, I wouldn't walk into a spa thinking na may makakarelasyon ako sa isa sa mga babaeng magbibigay ng serbisyo sakin. Ang mental state ko is, I pay someone to make me happy for a while then I walk out with a smile, that's it. Paglabas ko sa pinto ang nasa isip ko nalang is, "was it money and time well spent?". Life can be simple if you choose to stay away from comlpications.

This is what I have pointed out in the GM that I las responded to in the " Falling for a Therapist" thread.

[Edmund Dantes]

Where is also the love when you can't support her? When you can't save her? Where you can't give her security? Where you are allowing her to whore herself just because you can't work extra or double or you can't give up your vices for her? Remember, she is whoring herself for money. To support her family. You will come. Love her and love takes sacrifices and understanding. So if you're a guy who's ok to say you love someone yet you're good with her doing hj, bj or sex with other men, are you even a man?

 

You are ought to work for women. To support women. If you can't do it for her, don't take her.

 

Bakit parang nasa lalake lagi yung responsibilidad? Responsibilidad din ng babae na tulungan naman sarili nya. Kung talagang gusto nya maialis sarili nya dyan, sya din dapat gumawa ng steps di ba? Its not so much about the guy having the sole responsibility of supporting the woman. Of course I am all for lending a help, pero kelangan tulungan babae sarili nya at huwag umasa sa prince charming. Mamaya yung prince charming eh halimaw pala. Daming kwento ng ganyan, kung kelan inalis na sa industriya saka lumitaw ugali nung lalake na nambubugbug pala.

 

Ang dapat isipin dito, kung pinasok ng babae trabahong ito, dapat ilagay nya sa isip at puso na responsibilidad nya din alisin sarili nya dyan.

 

Obligasyon din ng lalake mahalin ang sarili nya. Unawain sure, pero di ibig sabihin nun dapat na din sya pumayag sa napakaunfair na setup. You have to meet half-way. Likewise kung talagang mahal nung babae lalake at handa sya manindigan, tulungan nya alisin sarili nya at huwag lahat iasa na lang sa lalake