Falling For A Therapist - Merged Thread

[Palakol]

yung isa dati, ang pinakamaraming beses kong nakasama. mga dalawang taon ko siyang kilala. nagpakasal siya tapos hindi na binalikan. nagkadebelopan kami, tapos sinabi niya "mahal kita, pero hanggang dito lang tayo." nagpakasal siya ulit, at hindi ko na siya hinintay. sa tingin ko ang hinahanap ng mga babaeng ganyan ay partner, hindi lover. naghahanap siguro sila ng paraan na makapagpakasal at makaalis sa ganoong buhay, dahil alam nila na parating na ang expiration date nila.

[banditrevolver]

mahirap maghintay. baka naghihintay ka lang sa wala. mas delikado pa kung ganito ang linya ng trabaho ng napupusuan mo, at customer ka. pag nabigo ka o sumuko, at alam mong tunay yung nararamdaman mo, hindi ka makakapag move on sa loob ng ilang araw o buwan lang. ako inabot ako ng mahigit tatlong taon. walang taong dapat makaranas ng ganon. pero nagpapasalamat ako kasi nalaman ko na totoo yung naramdaman ko. inabot nga lang ako ng ganon katagal para malaman.

 

hindi totoo na mahirap magmahal. natural sa tao na magmahal at makipagkapuwa. ang kaso, hindi robot ang tao. hindi automatic na nagmamahal ang tao kung pano siya dapat magmahal. namimili siya. nag-iisip siya. nakakaranas siya ng mga alanganing sitwasyon. parang ganito. customer at GRO. kung iisipin mo, pare-pareho lang tayong tao. lahat tayo kumakain at dumudumi. kaso maraming alanganing bagay at sitwasyon sa mundo. komplikado ang utak ng tao, ang puso hindi.

 

kailangan siguro pag-isipan muna kung totoo ba yung nararamdaman mo. sabi nila ang pag-ibig ay hindi pag-ibig kung hindi sabayan, hindi palitan. kung ikaw lang ang nakakaramdam, hindi pag-ibig yon. ang bawat kilos ng tao dapat may pag-angkin. meron din naman dapat kasabay na pagpapaubaya ng sarili. malabo. parating alanganin. ang sa akin lang, mabubuhay ako sa paraang sa tingin ko ay nararapat para lumigaya. kung ang ibig sabihin non ay gagastos ako tuwing sabado sa lanai, walang problema sakin.

[MasterM]

BEEN THERE....kaya ayoko ng maulit

[bodybumping]

mahirap maghintay. baka naghihintay ka lang sa wala. mas delikado pa kung ganito ang linya ng trabaho ng napupusuan mo, at customer ka. pag nabigo ka o sumuko, at alam mong tunay yung nararamdaman mo, hindi ka makakapag move on sa loob ng ilang araw o buwan lang. ako inabot ako ng mahigit tatlong taon. walang taong dapat makaranas ng ganon. pero nagpapasalamat ako kasi nalaman ko na totoo yung naramdaman ko. inabot nga lang ako ng ganon katagal para malaman.

 

hindi totoo na mahirap magmahal. natural sa tao na magmahal at makipagkapuwa. ang kaso, hindi robot ang tao. hindi automatic na nagmamahal ang tao kung pano siya dapat magmahal. namimili siya. nag-iisip siya. nakakaranas siya ng mga alanganing sitwasyon. parang ganito. customer at GRO. kung iisipin mo, pare-pareho lang tayong tao. lahat tayo kumakain at dumudumi. kaso maraming alanganing bagay at sitwasyon sa mundo. komplikado ang utak ng tao, ang puso hindi.

 

kailangan siguro pag-isipan muna kung totoo ba yung nararamdaman mo. sabi nila ang pag-ibig ay hindi pag-ibig kung hindi sabayan, hindi palitan. kung ikaw lang ang nakakaramdam, hindi pag-ibig yon. ang bawat kilos ng tao dapat may pag-angkin. meron din naman dapat kasabay na pagpapaubaya ng sarili. malabo. parating alanganin. ang sa akin lang, mabubuhay ako sa paraang sa tingin ko ay nararapat para lumigaya. kung ang ibig sabihin non ay gagastos ako tuwing sabado sa lanai, walang problema sakin.

 

well thought and well said.

[Mr.Whiteguy]

AFter little more then one year being married, I almost never think again about here past...so just give it time and (money?)

[Guest protocol]

i hate this feeling, and worst part is that the girl make3s you think you are not worth it. Ive been trying to make her feel what im feeling but somehowhe finds a way to make things disinteresting. Pinapamukha na walang kang silbi at di ka karapatdapat. hayyyy.......ayoko ng ganito sana didn't meet her na lang.

 

if she reads this peace....

[Palakol]

sa totoo, hindi mo na malalaman kung ano ba talaga. sundin mo lang ang nararamdaman mo, at gawin mo kung ano ang sa tingin mong dapat mong gawin. huwag mong pag-isipan. ika ng ni banditrevolver, "he who hesitates, maturbates."

 

at kung nais mo siyang malimutan, magmahal ka nag iba. o bumira ka ng maraming maraming iba't-ibang babae. huwag kang uulit. at isang araw (maaaring abutin ng dalawang oras o dalawang taon) dahan dahang maglalaho ang sakit...

 

at kung bumalik man ang mga dating kirot sa mga peklat ng pag-ibig, maaari nating manhirin muli ang puso sa pamamagitan ng ibang babae. at hindi na tayo uulit, sa takot sa dalamhating ibinigay sa atin ng nakaraang sinta, na di nagbalik ng pagmamahal na ating buong pusong inalay...

 

sa madaling salita, putangnang pag-ibig 'to...

[Palakol]

tama ka dyan bro. hirap lang talagang isipin o gawin lalo na kung mahal mo rin yung babae. pero kung talagang gusto mo na makalimutan yan ang tamang gawin para sa akin maghanap ng maraming chicks. tama rin naman na kung mahal mo nga dapat wag ka maghesitate kasi kung maghesitate ka baka nga di mo pa tangap yung situation nung babae. pero sa tingin nyo ba palagi talo dito ang lalaki?

 

sa kultura 'yan. palagi tayong talo. kung manakit tayo ng babae, tayo ang masama, pero sila palagi nila tayong sinasaktan. hirap maging lalaki no?

[Palakol]

by the way, for those of you who are current victims of this unfortunate situation, just grow some and tell her. unrequited love is a lot better than a lifetime of uncertainty, knowing that you could have done something but you didn't, with the words what if? in your head tormenting you for the rest of your miserable days... and one day, becoming that old person in the corner nobody wants to sit with, because all he ever talks about is "the one that got away..."

 

... okay, maybe i exaggerated a little... or a lot. but you never know... what if...

[glock19]

sir pano mo nalaman totoo yung nararamdaman mo? ito yung problema ko ngayon

 

when you start caring about her. i mean really care about her. her well-being, her feelings, etc. you worry if she stays out late, you worry about who her friends are. are they a good influence on her? you worry about her commuting. you worry about what she eats. you want her to stop smoking, etc. etc. etc. basically the same things you do when you're in love with a regular girl. the difference is you started out with sex as the only common experience. so you have to really distinguish whether it's just sex you're after or do you really care about this person.

[Puyah]

What I'm going through right now is just as painful as any sad story I've seen here.

I was with a former lady of the trade, I said former kasi she actually stopped working for the MP no more than 3 months after we became an item.

We actually lasted almost 3 years.

I was fortunate at the time na the kind of work I dow requirs me travel a lot to asia from here, I was practically in PI at least twice per quarter. And to think na ayoko ng bumalik sa PI since wala na rin kaming masyadong family staying there.

At the time it happened I was in a process of a messy divorce that became even messier after I met her.

I'm willing to lose just about everything para lang sa kanya.

She didn't like the idea of me fully supporting her kaya we invested on one of tose food carts that she was able to actually make decent money from.

Once the food cart business was picking up a bit, she asked if ok lang daw na mag-work sya commercially, ie, retail stores food chains and so forth.

That went well kasi I can see her for 2 weeks almost every 5-6 weeks, it was great.

Trust me, at my age, that was a blast.

Things are going great actually for us up until a month ago.

She started a new business with a certain friend, well to make a very long story short, "nagka-developan" sila in the process of setting up the new business.

So since the old guy is far and she can't wait any further na madala ko sya dito, I was given on one of our regular morning calls to PI.

 

Friends na lang daw kami. That's when I know I'm SCR$WED. Sabi nya na she's so sorry and with all the crying pa.

I sincerely believe her kasi that's the only think I can do at that point.

of course I'm pissed but I can't be bitter din kasi even though it's too friggin hard to admit for me pero ano gagawin ko, takbo sa pinas at ipaglaban ang akin?!?! We all know that's BS.

 

So I told her things are cool and we're cool. OK lang. Ano pa masasabi ko.

 

One thing sinabi ko sa kanya is ingatan lang nya sarili nya, kahit ano mangyari wag syang magiisip na bumailk sa dating trade.

Sabi ko pa, and I'm sincere with this, pag di nag-work out sila ni bagong "BF-to-be-fiancee" nya, just be patient and I'm very sure na makakita sya eventually ng truly right man for her.

I even went as far as sabi ko na if all else fails at nagisip syang bumalik sa dating trabaho, tawagan nya ako at ako n lang tutulong sa kanya hanggang mai-ayos nya life nya again, and all this is without any conditions to her ok. I told her na wala akong hinihingi or request na kapalit. Maybe I'm cool maybe I'm not, who knows, nobody can tell what will happen.

 

It just hurts to think about what we had, I treated her like a real person.

With me, first time nyang nakapasok sa mga luxury hotels sa manila and not having to look down going in na baka pagisipan sya na soliciting ang purpose nya for going in.

You people have no idea how happy and proud I was every time I see her walking in sa S sa edsa and sa P makati and showing her room card dun sa business tower annex, that's where I always stay for my business trips. I always make it a point na we get room 1344, meron syang private balcony facing st francis church or kung anumang simbahan yun.

 

But just like anything good in life, it has to end.

 

So what does an old man like my self will do next??? try to move on and check again later.

 

PEACE...

[Puyah]

This is what im saying. bakit ang mga girls ganito. talagang nakakatakot isipin. do you think it will change the situation if you guys had a kid? well for me we have one in the process that why medyo gulong gulo ako. Sabi nga ng iba, not all has a fairy tale ending. kung di man fairytale sana action story man lang para bida parin tayo sa pagtapos ng kwento.

 

 

Man. Not all these ladies are the same. In her defense kasalanan ko rin kasi naging pabaya ako. Maybe naging masyado akong confident and relax thinking that she sincerley loves me.

I know na minahal nya ako, I'll be lying to myself if I were to think na hindi. Pero like all good things, it had to end. Unfortunately it's affecting me in a deeper way.

Sa ngayon, I have no intention of going back sa PI to try and court her again, yes the thought crossed my mind several times pero I had to be mature about it.

Sana ugaling pinoy pa din ako na "kung ayaw mo wag" pero I still think of her being with me.

 

Geezuz man. What we had was beautiful. I'd give anything to bring it back.

 

Well sa ngayon I can't do much and I have no intention either of getting back with my ex-wife, nakalabas na nga ako dun, ipu-pukpok ko pa ba uli ulo ko.

Sa tanda kong ito tama na yun.

 

These ladies who works the trade have their dreams too.

One way or the other they will achieve it, or most of them will die trying. Not all ends up to be a happy story.

Meron iba dyan nakakakita ng work someplace else na decent. Pero merong mga tao pa din na tries to pull them down. I don;t want to be one of them anymore.

On my youger days, Old School ako dude, I was really bad sa babae on these trade. talagang babuyan ang laban.

But like anything else, I learned to stop and grow up.

Meron one time na may nakuha akong MPA sa Maalikaya noon, about 20 years ago, dinal ko sa may Danara during it's high times.

We screwed like crazy animals sa may pool side, then when we were done, I called some barkadas ang pinilahan nila kasi lasing na rin yung chick.

One of my stupid barkada's even pissed on the chicks face when they were all done. we thought it was funny then.

Trust me, kung alam ko lang kung nasaan yung girl na yun, hihingi ng forgiveness.

 

I know my ex is different (I can't believe I'm calling her my ex). Special sya from the day I met her, it's more than bog-li. It's more like infatuated ako dahil if I didn't know na ganun work nya, iisipin ko isa syang office worker or somebody who runs a boutique or something of that nature.

She really is very classy, that's what separates her from the others.

 

Pero like I said earlier, merong mga loko pa din na just won't let go ang isang tao na nagbago na.

Once dun sa retail store na nag work sya for about 6 months, somebody must have recognized her.

The idiot came up to her pretending to buy something and said na "kilala kita, ikaw si #__ dito na pala racket mo ha. Iba na din name mo ha, hindi ka na pala si _____"

She told me all about it and I told her to wuit the same day and she did.

Di nya kailangan mog-work kasi meron kaming acct sa PCI na I regularly put money in through remittance here. Pero naiinip sya and I know it.

She's a very personable lady, and again, classy.

 

This is one of those things you can file under "Lessons learned"

 

PEACE...

[hmmidontknow]

well actually its really up to you... but i think.. if you can handle the cons... then do it... but do remember that... its really good to do anything that you really want to do... for as long as there is still life in your body... just enjoy your life bro.. do things that you think can make you happy...

[MsCareGiver]

i hate this feeling, and worst part is that the girl make3s you think you are not worth it. Ive been trying to make her feel what im feeling but somehowhe finds a way to make things disinteresting. Pinapamukha na walang kang silbi at di ka karapatdapat. hayyyy.......ayoko ng ganito sana didn't meet her na lang.

 

if she reads this peace....

 

 

boy baka dat girl u likes nman have a valid reason na ipamukha sau n ndi k nga karapatdapat for her,tska bka my sabit k,s mga katulad nming attendant its really hard to believe for a guy what his intention,posible n ntsachallenge lng ung guy,,xe they think women who works in massage very easy to get,to make believe n mahal sila ng guy n tanggap sila chuva,at the end of the day that darn man leave the attendant because they keep on telling that the relationship doesnt work dah! tlgang lht ng mpa mddla at hindi na ganun kdaling maniwala noh! prove yuourself,if you have any relationship right now,wag k ng maghanap ng iba. :thumbsdownsmiley:

[MsCareGiver]

sa kultura 'yan. palagi tayong talo. kung manakit tayo ng babae, tayo ang masama, pero sila palagi nila tayong sinasaktan. hirap maging lalaki no?

 

 

how can you say na lalaki lng lagi talo? both parties mahirap at posibleng talo,its really hard n magmahal,maiwan,masktan,kng sa plagay nio na having sex to anyone else will ease the pain partly true im doing that treatment for myself,why cant i have sex while im hurting? e madami ngang iba gaya ng sabi ni lockoff8,hindi lang lalaki ang talo,,at hindi din pwedeng idahilan na girlalou ang nanakit,,maybe you should ask yourself what happened,marami kasi sa mga lalaki na mpride kip on telling n they dont need a girl in their lives,pero ending papaawa na nasktan sila ng girl at tatakbo s ibang girl,edi naNGGAMIT K uli ng isang girl at mssktan mo uli. :thumbsdownsmiley:

Edited September 1, 2007 by MsCareGiver

[iwalkalone]

i do feel for you bros that are in this type of relationship!!!..it is a very tricky one...my suggestion is to take it slow..assess the pros and cons..i am in a similar kind of situation right now...have a GF who works in a KTV..we were doing fine for almost 2 years..she has somehow been semi retired..i asked her to stop and provided everything for her..but i guess that was not good enough..she's now back working in the KTV she used to work in..now she is now accepting bar fines or extra service in the VIP rooms which she has never done before!!!!i feel so hurt and devastated with this turn of events!!!..yet i am still hleping her out on the financial aspect..i still love her so much and it hurts me that she has decided to pursue this kind of life despite me being there for her!!! so mga bro..if you love that somebody so much and after carefully analyzing the situation you feel that it is all worth it then go for it without hesitation and regrets!!!..just make it work mga bro......

 

chad8693...you know naman i've been reading (even replying) to your posts way back pa...kakaiba kase...love story nga!

and alot of us here admires you...you know that. :flowers:

...it's been quite awhile since i last visited this topic...medyo nawindang ako dito sa huling post mo....

i'm still in awe syempre...kalain mo yun...?

kaya lang...i have to ask...don't you ever know where to draw the line?

this girl of yours...i don't think she still respects you....more so loves you?... sorry for being blunt...but that's just how I see it.

Edited September 3, 2007 by iwalkalone

[Timon]

chad8693...you know naman i've been reading (even replying) to your posts way back pa...kakaiba kase...love story nga!

and alot of us here admires you...you know that. :flowers:

...it's been quite awhile since i last visited this topic...medyo nawindang ako dito sa huling post mo....

i'm still in awe syempre...kalain mo yun...?

kaya lang...i have to ask...don't you ever know where to draw the line?

this girl of yours...i don't think she still respects you....more so loves you?... sorry for being blunt...but that's just how I see it.

 

To chad: I will even be more blunt than iwa... mukhang ang pagpayag ng GF mo na makipag-sex sa customers nya para ma-turn off ka na at iwanan mo na sya. Maybe she doesn't have the "balls" to break-up with you... Might be time to go dude. Kung mahal mo talaga... let go.

 

To iwa: Pwede bang ma-inlove sa yo kahit di ka pa na-meet? :upside: Bet marami na yan... hehehe...

 

PEACE!!!

[Puyah]

I just found out that one of my ex went back to something similar to what she was doing before where I helped her get away from.

Bakit ganun dito sa business na 'to?

She was already set with a new life, I gave her quite plenty to start a new life and she was already doing good when she left me.

I made her promise me something and she gave me her word na pag magigipit pa sya uli "kahit kelan pa", she knows how to reach me dito and I'll be more than happy to help out again. And again habang buhay ako and kaya ko. Geezuz man.

 

Question para sa mga GRO/MPA/Escort past and present, para ba talagang drugs yan business nyong yan?

I'm not kidding it's been years that she's rid of that trade, and now nabalitaan ko and she confirmed na it's true.

Everytime I'm in PI and happens to interact with these ladies, more than 95% of them are willing to leave the job and start a new life, then lo and behold, balik bayan din pala. christ.

What she won't admit though was kung balik MPA sya or nag-escort or GRO na sya or kung saan man.

Mabuti na daw na di ko alam para di ko daw sya makita pa na. Personally I thinks it's BS.

Alam nya na di sya magdadalawang salita, I proved that to her many times before but still...

 

You know the saddest part of this, she's doing this to help out sa familia nila.

Di alam ng familia nya and never nila malalaman na she was in the trade even before, tinago namin lahat yun nung magkakilala kami.

Akala nila talagang malakas magpa-sweldo yung chinese na may ari ng boutique na she was supposedly working for.

Di ko alam kung tanga or ignorante lang familia nya, come on man, do the math:

a) Didn't graduate college

No real working skills that can be useful in the real world other than the obvious.

c) Broken english and not attempting to learn better ones

d) And she looks HOT

And then she comes home very early in the morning with at least 2k pesos in hand?!?!?!

I almost forgot to mention one of her gifts, she's extremely fluent on another foreign language that it comes out so natural to her.

After she left that place, I was able to maintain her "allowance" for 2.5 years until she decided na she was too good for me?!?!?!

I had to respect that, it was her decision.

 

This has not been a good past 2 weeks for me.

Two of the people I care for the most gave me very very bad feelings and I sincerely feel sorry for them.

My most recent ex left me for god know who or what and then this one na akala ko maayos na, bumalik din pala.

 

This leaves a bad taste in my mouth but it doesn't mean na titigil ako. Just have to go back to Manlia and re-calibrate myself.

Spa sa City Lights on Timog or The Spa sa Libis, Kain sa Ma Mon Luk (old school ako man) then balik sa coner ng Morato/Timog for some Isaw.

Then it's back to the torn stretch of Quezon Av or sa Tia Maria harap ng Ateneo for god knows what.That's life! at least for me

I all else fails, dun na lang ako sa bar ng hotel ko lagi sa katabi ng Megamall.

You guys would know which hotel it is kung kilala nyo si Brenda C. She used to be on the morning breakfast service sa business lounge of the said hotel the she moved to the atrium reception area as a host.

Ganda sya, maputi, no more than 125 lbs, at least 5'6", mabait and among other envious attributes to the others. She's waiting for her petition papers to come here na daw by this December, She said she'd like to meet up with me once here. And I said absolutely, why not. But not my type though.

For some stupid, sick and twisted reason kasi, I keep falling for the ones with the more tragic lifestyle than the ones who are more fortunate than they would be.

Pero who knows di ba...

 

I wish all the working ladies the best of luck in life, same goes to all of us

 

 

PEACE....

 

Edited October 29, 2007 by Wyld
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[MasterM]

chad8693...you know naman i've been reading (even replying) to your posts way back pa...kakaiba kase...love story nga!

and alot of us here admires you...you know that. :flowers:

...it's been quite awhile since i last visited this topic...medyo nawindang ako dito sa huling post mo....

i'm still in awe syempre...kalain mo yun...?

kaya lang...i have to ask...don't you ever know where to draw the line?

this girl of yours...i don't think she still respects you....more so loves you?... sorry for being blunt...but that's just how I see it.

 

 

chad8693...i have to agree with iwa. the girls dont love you anymore, more so respect you.

 

the way she is acting and doing those things which she normally don't do, maybe is way for her for you to let go of her

 

it's time to let her go.....

[iwalkalone]

napakalaki po ng fonts nyo ....

hindi po nakaka adik ang ganyang work kapag hindi kailangan...depende din po sa pananaw ng babae...

ayaw nya po humingi ng tulong sayo kase po ayaw nya na kayo...at ayaw nya rin kayong lokohin pa. I assume na Japayuki po yung girl na yun?...

so medyo praktikal lang po talaga siguro sya....malaki at mabilis ang kita sa flesh trade.

Sorry to hear about what you've gone through.

 

muntik na! sama ko talagaaah... http://www.alamak.com/i/2/risa.gif

Edited September 6, 2007 by iwalkalone

[Larry]

puya

 

you seem upset?

[nuggetable]

I saw it a lot in HK, especially prevalent among european men.

 

It didn't work very often at all, but there were one or two happy endings.

[extrarice3]

How about talents falling for their guests? Nangayayari rin yun 'ayt?

[MasterM]

How about talents falling for their guests? Nangayayari rin yun 'ayt?

 

i think so....but i think it is rare.

 

actually i haven't seen talents falling for their guest, it is always the other way around.

[b3ck]

How about talents falling for their guests? Nangayayari rin yun 'ayt?

 

i think so....but i think it is rare.

 

actually i haven't seen talents falling for their guest, it is always the other way around.

 

Clients falling in love and vice versa..

 

Been there, done that..

 

Fell in love before. Never panned out. Either girls went south or they just couldnt figure out what they want in life. Got out before the hole got too deep. Dont wanna play superhero anymore..

 

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The other way around...

 

I knew they were into me when:

(Not sure about love. I always make sure, it never reaches that far. Yokong magpaasa)

 

-You get freebies. They dont wanna do it at work, they wanna do it outside.

-They skip work (or school) for you.

-They buy you gifts, small tokens.

-They drag you along to meet friends, family.

-They never ask money from you. You also benefit from their benefactors.

-Ayaw nilang magpabuhay sayo. Willing to stop and earn less (If she's not supporting her family, this is a higher likelihood)

-They schedule their off days around you, and make the plans.

-Malakas sila tamarin to go back to work. Lalo na pag ikaw lang ang kakasama at ayaw magpagalaw muna sa iba.

-They dont enjoy sex that much, unless its with you.

-Even after you tell them the real deal (hitched, daddy-o, etc), they dont mind.

-They rarely ask for marriage. Masaya na sila na ikaw and boypren na seryoso, maski hindi magpakasal.

 

I guess this is the reason why they say:

Ibang klase silang magmahal.

 

And if i can put it bluntly. We can be such an arse, and they'd still love us.

(And this is universal. People who are really into you would always be wearing rose colored glasses)

 

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This may be OT.

 

But this is universal, again.

 

Any relationship would have a better chance of working out if both parties feel the same level of love, commitment, sincerity, blah blah blah...

 

Anything less would be life lessons we just have to go thru to grow up... or plain waste of time because we stubbornly refuse to grow up...