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Sa aking sariling palagay, kapag lumaya na ang ating isipan sa stereotypes na ating nakagisnan, mamumulat tayo sa pagtanggap sa bawat babae at sa bawat relasyon bilang unique o kakaiba. Ito marahil ang magbibigay at nagbibigay sa marami na hindi maging sarado kay sir Edmund pero may tibay ng kalooban para di maging duwag sa hamon ng isang kakaibang relasyon.

 

wow best line. Dahil na din sa konserbatiba nating pananaw kaya siguro natatakot yung ibang magmahal ng totohanan sa mga babaing nasa ganitong industriya.

 

Lahat naman tayo me kanya-kanyang pananaw.respeto na lang sa naiiba pananaw sa iyo..

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Maganda po ang isinusulat ninyo sir Edmund Dantes. Mas maganda po talaga kung ang ating babaeng napupusuan ay lalabas sa kanyang sarili sa industriyangito upang ihanda ang kanyang sarili para sa mga lalaking tulad po ninyo para po sila maging dapat.

 

Sa akin lang sir na matagal na sa industriya at marami nang kaibigan sa kanila at marami na ring natulungan maialis sa industriyang ito na di sila ginagarahe, ang natutunan ko po ay ito: people respond to incentives and rational people think at the margins.

 

Sa pagkakila ko po sa mga babae rito tulad ng maraming mga naging kaibigan nila, bubuksan nila ang kanilang pribadong buhay dahil alam nila na hindi sila huhusgahan. Malalaman po ninyo ang samu't- saring dahilan kung papaano at kung bakit sila nasa industriyang ito.

 

Malalaman din po ninyo na ang mga babae sa indusyriyang ito, informally ay marunong mag plano katulad po ng mga strategic management plans na itinuturo sa AIM.

 

Kung may type ka na thera, sinisiguro ko po sa iyo na hindi po niya iiwan ang kanyang plano dahil liligawan mo po siya.

 

Kaya mahirap paibigin ang thera. Mas mahirap kaysa sa ibang babae kasi pinatatag na sila ng mga lalake sa industriyang ito.

 

Kaya't kung may kapangyarihan ka naman sanpamamagitan ng talino, abilidad, diskarte, koneksiyon o panimulangnpamumuhunan, sa aking palagay mas marapat na tulungan sila sa mga oportunidad makaalis sa industriya kaysa idemand na umalis sila sa kanilang sarili para pagdapatin ang kanilang sarili.

 

Kung kaya nilang umalis sa sarili nila at kung ang kalalabasan ng pag alis ay mas mabuti kaysa manatili eh di wala na sila dapat sa industriyang ito in the first place, di po ba?

 

 

Sa pagkakilala ko po sa kanila, if the marginal benefits of leaving is greater than the marginal benefits of staying, these girls will stay out.

 

Yun naman pong mga may karelasyon na sa iba't - ibang lebel ng komitment, sa akin pong pagkakilala sa ilan sa kanila, mahirap pong magsalita ng mga sweeping statement na libog lang yan, infatuation, puro emotion, puso at puson etc.

 

Gaya po nang una kong post, kaysa maglabas po tayo ng sweeping generalizations at stereotypes, sikapin po katin tingnan ang bawa't kaso, bawa't relasyon, bawa't babae bilang unique o may sariling kakanyahan.

 

Patuloy po kayong magsulat at magtulak ng inyong mga prinsipyo sir Edmund. Kailangan pong mabasa ng nga gms ang inyong mga puntos bagonpo nila pasukin ang pakikipag relasyon sa mga babae sa industriya

 

Una sabi nyo ang mga babaeng ganito ay tulad din ng ibang babae na pwede magmahal. Pero sa post na ito, parang taga ibang planeta sila at napaka "special" kaya "special" people din ang pagbibigyan nila ng puso? hmmmmm. I don't particularly buy it only because may mga babae din naman sa labas ng industrya ang maingat magtiwala sa emosyon nila.

 

OO relationships are case to case. Pero healthy relationships in all forms require some level of maturity and being fair to your partner as well as to yourself. Lahat tayo basta masaya willing to make compromises na di natin naiintindihan ng gaano. Everything looks different kapag emosyon na ang nagiisip. Yung pangit nagiging maganda, yung baluktot nagiging tuwid. Ito na lang si Carding, will make naive sweeping generalizations na mas may prinsipyo pa pagdating sa pagibig ang mga babaeng ito kesa sa mga babaeng may office work.

 

Ang pagalis at pananatili ay responsibilidad ng babae mismo at hindi ng kung sino pa man. Kung mananatili sya, eh di pangatawanan nya na hindi pa sya handa para sa isang romantic relationship. Kasi hindi sya nagiging fair sa partner nya. At yung lalake hindi rin nagiging fair sa sarili nya. Kung iwanan nya trabaho nya na yan, matanggap ng lalake nakaraan nya, then better ang chances for healthy relationship.

 

Para sakin kung tutulungan babae makaalis sa gantiong trabaho, hindi ba mas maganda kung tutulungan sila ng walang kapalit na sexual or emotional favor? Mas sincere sakin yung ganun. Sincere both parties.

 

May isang nagsabi dito na tayo din naman mga lalake nagkaroon ng ibat ibang partners. OO tama yun! So in a way ang lalake pwedeng marumi din nakaraan. Pero dapat nakaraan na yun at di na babalikan. Kaya nga sa susunod na makahanap ako ng partner, gusto ko bukas na aklat nakaraan ko. Kasi gusto ko tanggapin nya kung ano at sino ako. Pero Im sure walang matinong babae tatangap sakin kung may ibang babae akong hinahawakan din.

 

Lastly, o huwag masyado ako patandain. Masyado naman magalang ang post mo.

 

 

Whew! It's been a while since I read this forum... Simply browsed through most posts.

 

To those people like C.Tigas:

 

If you put yourself in an objective state of mind, meaning, it's not you in the situation but someone dear to you like a brother, or maybe your son in the future. What would you advise them to do? If it's your son, what would you tell him to do?

 

Your answer to this question above will prove the right course of action.

 

To E. Dantes:

 

I for one appreciate your inputs, I look forward to your posts actually. But knowing human psychology, there are certain people who tend to get blinded when they get criticized for the things that they are doing. So instead of following yor advise, they become stubborn and go the opposite direction.

 

I'm in no way a psych guru, but if your intention is truly to help and advise people make the right decision in their life, maybe there's another way to reach to this group of people? Just thinking...

 

Like I said, sometimes what I say is appreciated, sometimes it is not. I am just really discussing a topic here, and when one offers himself to the table, then I guess wala naman masama if I volunteer to disect him. Maybe these people will listen to me, maybe they wont. Sakin kasi, hindi ko pa naranasan makipagrelasyon sa thera, MP, PSP etc. Pero I know the feeling of going against all odds because one woman just makes you feel so happy and secure. If I bank on one thing its the time and years I spent going in and out of relationships.

 

Customers of establishments where these ladies work should always think that the TLC is part of their job and more often than not, they don't mean it. It's the client's choice if he will take the girl's TLC seriously or not. To quote an immortal movie line, "Walang personalan, trabaho lang."

 

Good point! Kaya nga yung mga pumapasok sa ganitong lugar na medyo vulnerable emotionally ang madli natatamaan

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OO relationships are case to case. Pero healthy relationships in all forms require some level of maturity and being fair to your partner as well as to yourself. Lahat tayo basta masaya willing to make compromises na di natin naiintindihan ng gaano. Everything looks different kapag emosyon na ang nagiisip. Yung pangit nagiging maganda, yung baluktot nagiging tuwid. Ito na lang si Carding, will make naive sweeping generalizations na mas may prinsipyo pa pagdating sa pagibig ang mga babaeng ito kesa sa mga babaeng may office work.

 

 

yun kasi naman talaga na experience ko, wrong choice of words lang hahahaha, as I have said, I had several girlfriends before na tulad ko na CPA din, may Nurse, Marketing Officer, Call Center Agent...lahat sila may matinong trabaho, but unfortunately, it didn't work out, some of them nag cheat, some of them hindi lang talaga kame compatible, pero they all have one thing in Common na medyo ouch, hindi ko alam kung coincidence lang, pero lahat sila, Nag Asawa after ko naging GF. That how f#&ked up may past relationships were. yun pala un kulang dun sa mga kwento ko E.D.

 

Note: Linawin ko lang, Hindi ko ako nag ge-generalize ng work, it so happen lang that before all of this roller coaster ride with my current woman, I had a life before na at one point ay naging masaya din ako, but it all went downhill for some reason na hanggang ngayon iniisip ko pa din what went wrong. =) Water under the bridge, I'm happy with this woman right now, settling down somewhere in the south by first quarter of next year.

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Whew! It's been a while since I read this forum... Simply browsed through most posts.

 

To those people like C.Tigas:

 

If you put yourself in an objective state of mind, meaning, it's not you in the situation but someone dear to you like a brother, or maybe your son in the future. What would you advise them to do? If it's your son, what would you tell him to do?

 

Your answer to this question above will prove the right course of action.

 

 

 

Simple lang, Message to my Future Son : That is how your mom and I met, I know that It's not perfect, and definitely its not an ideal setup, we live in a judgmental society, people would say a lot of hurtful things, they may seem to know you better than your own self, but this I say to you my Son, you have my genes, my blood runs thru your veins, and I know that you have the balls and courage to Man Up and stand for your woman I know it's not perfect but its worth it, and you are the living proof of our love for each other.

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There is nothing wrong in falling in love with these girls but reality check is mas lower % of success rate compare to others. Mostly kasi sinasamantala lang ng mga theras yung vulneraibility nung guy or sometimes the other way around. But love don't care about statistics, they always say they can do anything in the name of love. They can move the world as they say. Those with better resources have higher chances though.

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There is nothing wrong in falling in love with these girls but reality check is mas lower % of success rate compare to others. Mostly kasi sinasamantala lang ng mga theras yung vulneraibility nung guy or sometimes the other way around. But love don't care about statistics, they always say they can do anything in the name of love. They can move the world as they say. Those with better resources have higher chances though.

 

not all my friend, yes the risk that you may get f#&ked up and maka encounter ng mga hustler ay malaki, that's why this kind of setup is not for the weak of heart and you still need to be in control of your own Heart and Mind and even your Bird =) kung hindi ka din ready, and have a conviction to filter out those who only care for your bank account, eh, wag ng tumuloy dahil crash and burn lang ang ending nyan.

 

Again my friend, I'm not selling the idea that one should enter this kind of relationship. Protect yourself, wear and emotional condom =)

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not all my friend, yes the risk that you may get f#&ked up and maka encounter ng mga hustler ay malaki, that's why this kind of setup is not for the weak of heart and you still need to be in control of your own Heart and Mind and even your Bird =) kung hindi ka din ready, and have a conviction to filter out those who only care for your bank account, eh, wag ng tumuloy dahil crash and burn lang ang ending nyan.

 

Again my friend, I'm not selling the idea that one should enter this kind of relationship. Protect yourself, wear and emotional condom =)

I agree with you sir, kaya nga mas maganda is gamitin muna utak, then puson lastly ang puso. :)

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I agree with you sir, kaya nga mas maganda is gamitin muna utak, then puson lastly ang puso. :)

 

 

ang major challenge kasi talaga ay pano mo lalabanan un pangalawang Ulo mo, minsan kasi if you get excited and overwhelmed, blood rushes down to your head down there, in effect na wawala ng oxygen un brain mo and hindi ka makapag isip ng derecho!!! hahahahaha

 

Kidding Aside my friend, sa mga pinagdaanan ko before, I can say that i can handle things much better now

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yun kasi naman talaga na experience ko, wrong choice of words lang hahahaha, as I have said, I had several girlfriends before na tulad ko na CPA din, may Nurse, Marketing Officer, Call Center Agent...lahat sila may matinong trabaho, but unfortunately, it didn't work out, some of them nag cheat, some of them hindi lang talaga kame compatible, pero they all have one thing in Common na medyo ouch, hindi ko alam kung coincidence lang, pero lahat sila, Nag Asawa after ko naging GF. That how f#&ked up may past relationships were. yun pala un kulang dun sa mga kwento ko E.D.

 

Note: Linawin ko lang, Hindi ko ako nag ge-generalize ng work, it so happen lang that before all of this roller coaster ride with my current woman, I had a life before na at one point ay naging masaya din ako, but it all went downhill for some reason na hanggang ngayon iniisip ko pa din what went wrong. =) Water under the bridge, I'm happy with this woman right now, settling down somewhere in the south by first quarter of next year.

 

Man,

 

This may not be something that youd like to hear, but truth of the matter is may kasalanan ka din most likely why those relationships failed or why you became so attractive to women of poor character. Again di ko sinasabing masama ka, ang sinasabi ko its healthy din kasi to sometimes chew on that shame sandwich paminsan minsan. Kasi dyan tayo matututo eh, pag tinanggap natin na may mali satin na dapat ayusin. Pag nagawa mo yan, hindi ka paulit ulit lang ng pagkakamali sa mga darating pang relasyon mo di ba?

 

Lahat naman ng babaeng dumarating sa buhay mo, at one point prinsesa sila, napasaya ka ng sobra, at "special". Higit pa dyan, hindi mo naman inakalang sasaksakin ka sa likod ng mga yan di ba?

 

Let me ask you this since naungkat naman, were you going to her place of work nung time na kagagaling mo lang sa isang breakup? Parang on a rebound course ka then nagkakilala kayo?

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There is nothing wrong in falling in love with these girls but reality check is mas lower % of success rate compare to others. Mostly kasi sinasamantala lang ng mga theras yung vulneraibility nung guy or sometimes the other way around. But love don't care about statistics, they always say they can do anything in the name of love. They can move the world as they say. Those with better resources have higher chances though.

 

Anybody can fall in love, but just because you are in love with the person it does not mean you should pursue a serious relationship.

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ang major challenge kasi talaga ay pano mo lalabanan un pangalawang Ulo mo, minsan kasi if you get excited and overwhelmed, blood rushes down to your head down there, in effect na wawala ng oxygen un brain mo and hindi ka makapag isip ng derecho!!! hahahahaha

 

Kidding Aside my friend, sa mga pinagdaanan ko before, I can say that i can handle things much better now

Okay lang yung ulo down there basta pagka release wala na :D Wag lang pumunta sa puso. Mas mahirap pag ganun. Misinterpreting your sexual desire/accomplishment to love.

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Man,

 

This may not be something that youd like to hear, but truth of the matter is may kasalanan ka din most likely why those relationships failed or why you became so attractive to women of poor character. Again di ko sinasabing masama ka, ang sinasabi ko its healthy din kasi to sometimes chew on that shame sandwich paminsan minsan. Kasi dyan tayo matututo eh, pag tinanggap natin na may mali satin na dapat ayusin. Pag nagawa mo yan, hindi ka paulit ulit lang ng pagkakamali sa mga darating pang relasyon mo di ba?

 

Lahat naman ng babaeng dumarating sa buhay mo, at one point prinsesa sila, napasaya ka ng sobra, at "special". Higit pa dyan, hindi mo naman inakalang sasaksakin ka sa likod ng mga yan di ba?

 

Let me ask you this since naungkat naman, were you going to her place of work nung time na kagagaling mo lang sa isang breakup? Parang on a rebound course ka then nagkakilala kayo?

 

nope, un rebound ko nuon, activity based eh, Gym tsaka wakeboard, tapos beach, out of town most of the time, pag stressed out lang ako nuon kaya ako napapadpad sa batcave, and yun primary therapist ko nuon dun sa batcave ko eh, hindi sya un woman na sinasabe ko =) and she's out of the spa scene na din sya lately, I've finally convinced her to stop na. every time na umuuwe ako sa kanya, its like a normal setup, she cooks dinner, prepares my shirt for work, I got stuff at her place para kung dun ako mag spend ng gabi, at least sa umaga may gamit ako pag pasok sa office, ayos naman tulad din ng setup ko with my previous girlfriends, but now ine-evaluate ko din un mga past mistakes ko para hindi na maulet.

 

Maybe my major flaw way back is that I'm a career driven person before, to the point na neneglect ko un mga past girlfriend ko because I'm pursuing my career lalo na nung na second ako sa New York Office nung Firm namin dati. pag balik ko ng Pilipinas, wala na ako binalikan dun sa Apartment ng X ko. only my stuff were left. badvibes noh??? well ang lalake kasi parang Government Treasury Shares, it will take a significant amount of time to Mature...hahahah. pero lesson learned from all of it, is that, "Never Neglect A Woman's Feelings" sure sometimes that it may seem irrelevant, but if you add up every issues left un resolved, it would create a ripple that may ruin everything and you'll realize that everything is lost. Hopefully, Wag na mangyare ulet yun =)

Okay lang yung ulo down there basta pagka release wala na :D Wag lang pumunta sa puso. Mas mahirap pag ganun. Misinterpreting your sexual desire/accomplishment to love.

 

oo naman!!! minsana kasi pag nag rreach ka na sa peak mo during the act itself, may mga words na hindi dapat sinasabe =) dun nag kaka mindf#&k, there's a very thin line between romance during sexy time and love itself.

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There you go. It's understandable why the others left you. The way I see it, you were drawn to your gf who is a therapist because therapists can also be de facto psychiatrists. They listen to your problems and part of their charm is lending an ear to their clients which is why it is easy for the clients to be drawn to their therapists.

 

Oo therapist nga sya pero, Hndi naman nya ako client, and pinatigil ko na sya. =)

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There you go. It's understandable why the others left you. The way I see it, you were drawn to your gf who is a therapist because therapists can also be de facto psychiatrists. They listen to your problems and part of their charm is lending an ear to their clients which is why it is easy for the clients to be drawn to their therapists.

if I may reiterate brother, yes therapist sya, and yes she have other clients way back, but then again, we don't have that client-therapist relationship to begin with, we were friends from the start, it so happen na dun lang kame nag kakilala sa work place nya, yung relationship namin goes beyond the four corners of the spa.

 

hindi ko na sya pinapag duty sa work nya...I want her to focus on things that would improve her life. When I asked her na tumigil na sya sa work nya, it was not my sole decision to make, sya din mismo ang gusto ng tumigil.

 

How do i know na talagang tumigil na sya? technology brother, Skype call every now and then, kahit nasa office ako, she makes it a point to make a video call, and checks up on me every now and then. gusto rin nya syempre na magkaron ako ng peace of mind, pero hindi ako ang nag impose nun sa kanya. ginagawa nya un, out of her own free will, may be i have proven something to her. something na nagpabago sa kanya.

 

May be our relationship is another proof that we should not loose faith in humanity.

 

Happy Holidays Brothers!!!

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nope, un rebound ko nuon, activity based eh, Gym tsaka wakeboard, tapos beach, out of town most of the time, pag stressed out lang ako nuon kaya ako napapadpad sa batcave, and yun primary therapist ko nuon dun sa batcave ko eh, hindi sya un woman na sinasabe ko =) and she's out of the spa scene na din sya lately, I've finally convinced her to stop na. every time na umuuwe ako sa kanya, its like a normal setup, she cooks dinner, prepares my shirt for work, I got stuff at her place para kung dun ako mag spend ng gabi, at least sa umaga may gamit ako pag pasok sa office, ayos naman tulad din ng setup ko with my previous girlfriends, but now ine-evaluate ko din un mga past mistakes ko para hindi na maulet.

 

Maybe my major flaw way back is that I'm a career driven person before, to the point na neneglect ko un mga past girlfriend ko because I'm pursuing my career lalo na nung na second ako sa New York Office nung Firm namin dati. pag balik ko ng Pilipinas, wala na ako binalikan dun sa Apartment ng X ko. only my stuff were left. badvibes noh??? well ang lalake kasi parang Government Treasury Shares, it will take a significant amount of time to Mature...hahahah. pero lesson learned from all of it, is that, "Never Neglect A Woman's Feelings" sure sometimes that it may seem irrelevant, but if you add up every issues left un resolved, it would create a ripple that may ruin everything and you'll realize that everything is lost. Hopefully, Wag na mangyare ulet yun =)

 

oo naman!!! minsana kasi pag nag rreach ka na sa peak mo during the act itself, may mga words na hindi dapat sinasabe =) dun nag kaka mindf#&k, there's a very thin line between romance during sexy time and love itself.

 

OK good! Thats you chewing on that shame sandwich. Does you good doesn't it. Pero what I am really wondering is if you properly defended yourself emotionally noon? If I may share something, yun ang realization ko noon sa sarili ko. Dahil masaya ako, dahil mahal ko, I failed to emotionally look after myself. Hence I attracted the wrong women. See its not even always a case of them leaving, sometimes it was a case of them sticking around longer than they were supposed to. I guess what I am trying to say is sa lahat ng relasyon na papasukan mo, be fair sa sarili mo. Dont make compromises that will make you feel insecure sa sarili mo. See when all this said and done parekoy bros before..... well ayoko na gamitin yung salitang yun at may magagalit. Basta sa mga ganitong usapin syempre tayo tayong mga may Y-chromosome dapat nagkakampihan.

 

 

 

And maybe we can invite Sir Edmund sa mga batcave natin and refer him sa regular natin :D (Idamay pa sa kalokohan natin, B.I.)

 

Hahaha! Ok 2 conditions lang ako mga parekoy

 

1. Wala munang alak, I promised to complete a certain number of days being sober.

2. Wholesome muna ako hangat maari. Baka ako naman isang araw makita nyong sumasabit sa ganitong sitwasyon at magpost dito.

 

This happened to me before (and not only once!). It never ends in a nice way, but I don't regret the experience.

 

Well thats the important thing, tinaggap mo at natuto ka at yan na ang magiging bahagi ng pagbabago mo sa sarili mo.

 

 

When you go to places like these, you shouldn't be emotionally vulnerable, otherwise, you are sure to be caught in their web. Like I said in my previous post, girls in these professions are de facto psychiatrists and it is easy to get drawn to them if you're not careful. It is human nature to be drawn to persons who listen to you and give you undivided attention. To their clients, they can epitomize solace and succor.

 

Kaya nga always know your limits. Walang masama makipagkaibigan sa mga ganitong klaseng tao. Pero there are simply things you must not do to protect yourself emotionally. Like I said, naloko na din ako ng babae sa pera eh. Pero of all na ginago ako, ito yung madali ko napatawad. Kasi pera lang naman yan eh. Kikitain ko lang ulit. I am not filthy rich and all, but I do live naman comfortably. If one day mawalan ako ng trabaho, meron naman akong itinabi. Pero ang mapaglaruan emotionally, ang madurog pride mo bilang lalake, yun ang matindi at napakasakit. That sh!t stays with you for a while. A long long while.

 

Oo therapist nga sya pero, Hndi naman nya ako client, and pinatigil ko na sya. =)

 

Lets hope it stays that way, kasi tingin ko malaki laki emotional investment mo sa taong ito. Kung di sya magbabago, dude, durog sigurado pride mo bilang lalake nyan.

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OK good! Thats you chewing on that shame sandwich. Does you good doesn't it. Pero what I am really wondering is if you properly defended yourself emotionally noon? If I may share something, yun ang realization ko noon sa sarili ko. Dahil masaya ako, dahil mahal ko, I failed to emotionally look after myself. Hence I attracted the wrong women. See its not even always a case of them leaving, sometimes it was a case of them sticking around longer than they were supposed to. I guess what I am trying to say is sa lahat ng relasyon na papasukan mo, be fair sa sarili mo. Dont make compromises that will make you feel insecure sa sarili mo. See when all this said and done parekoy bros before..... well ayoko na gamitin yung salitang yun at may magagalit. Basta sa mga ganitong usapin syempre tayo tayong mga may Y-chromosome dapat nagkakampihan.

 

 

 

Lets hope it stays that way, kasi tingin ko malaki laki emotional investment mo sa taong ito. Kung di sya magbabago, dude, durog sigurado pride mo bilang lalake nyan.

 

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if I may reiterate brother, yes SPA therapist sya, and yes she have other clients way back, but then again, we don't have that client-therapist relationship to begin with, we were friends from the start, it so happen na dun lang kame nag kakilala sa work place nya, yung relationship namin goes beyond the four corners of the spa.

 

hindi ko na sya pinapag duty sa work nya...I want her to focus on things that would improve her life. When I asked her na tumigil na sya sa work nya, it was not my sole decision to make, sya din mismo ang gusto ng tumigil.

 

How do i know na talagang tumigil na sya? technology brother, Skype call every now and then, kahit nasa office ako, she makes it a point to make a video call, and checks up on me every now and then. gusto rin nya syempre na magkaron ako ng peace of mind, pero hindi ako ang nag impose nun sa kanya. ginagawa nya un, out of her own free will, may be i have proven something to her. something na nagpabago sa kanya.

 

May be our relationship is another proof that we should not loose faith in humanity.

 

Happy Holidays Brothers!!!

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Hahaha! Ok 2 conditions lang ako mga parekoy

2. Wholesome muna ako hangat maari. Baka ako naman isang araw makita nyong sumasabit sa ganitong sitwasyon at magpost dito.

 

Para maiba naman, ikaw yung nasa other side of the coin. hehe

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