South China/West Philippine Sea

[dungeonbaby]

china fully knows that it is more for them to lose if they go to war against us. Uncle Sam is on our side. without Uncle Sam's support to the PH, China would have attacked us already.

 

so, let us ask ourselves, what's keeping them from firing the first shot?

 

the free market system? the largest manufacturer in the world cannot afford to shoot its customers

Edited April 24, 2012 by dungeonbaby

[dungeonbaby]

I really can't say if it's really their mindset but the use of ancient maps to back up their claim is absolutely ridiculous. Now, if we would agree to a joint venture with the Chinese for oil-sharing, Aquino should bargain that China should be the one to do the drilling using Chinese equipment and personnel. The share should be 60-40 in favor of RP and the Chinese should pay for royalties. Of course, this is assuming that the international tribunal would decide in our favor under the UNCLOS.

 

according to a dfa primer, one of the ways a country can claim a territory is to show historical ownership of said territory. of course this must be compounded with other things, like sustained occupancy, hence China's use of ancient maps AND structures built on reefs.

[jopoc]

the free market system? the largest manufacturer in the world cannot afford to k*ll its customers

 

 

surely, it will be much better for their "business" to occupy scarborough shoal, not to mention that war is also business.

 

as to being a customer or market, i dont think the PH will qualify as an important customer for the chinese.

[zenislev]

the "Fire" button is now half pressed, we just need one idiot to be curious on what is going to happen next.

[jopok]

i say gather all our ships,aging ang "new",,ask also those boats that are being used by the milf and mnlf and other lf's..unite under a common enemy,,then let the chinese have it,,when they retaliate,,they will be called a bully,international bodies will condemn them,and will make or propose action against china.Even the getlest of being will bite if it is being pushed to hard..i say its time to bite..

[Julianda]

china fully knows that it is more for them to lose if they go to war against us. Uncle Sam is on our side. without Uncle Sam's support to the PH, China would have attacked us already.

 

so, let us ask ourselves, what's keeping them from firing the first shot?

 

Yes, Uncle Sam might be on our side. In fact he wants China to resolve sea dispute through peaceful dialogue. He wants to talk about bilateral trade and investment agreement with Juan Dela Cruz etc. But not to get involved in any conflict between China and Philippines.

[silentkilla]

Should we boycott Chinese products and services as a sign of our protest against China's bullying?

[fordvipe]

Lets accept the fact because of politics we may loose these fight!!!!! :angry:

[wendy testicleger]

Sabihin na lang natin sa China kung ano ang sinabi ni Shaq kay Yao Ming. Ching chong-yang-wah-ah-soh!

[dungeonbaby]

I see. Just a question, does this supersede the UNCLOS?

 

definitely not in my very biased filipino opinion.

 

does China see it as superseding the UNCLOS? yes. scarborough shoal is within our exclusive economic zone, but for obvious reasons where two countries are close to one another, the eez isn't always an eezy thing to enforce (sorry, i couldn't resist).

 

in short, the two sides have overlapping claims. but what do you do when China isn't interested in international arbitration?

 

Edited April 26, 2012 by dungeonbaby

[SaintPeter5858]

What's our next step?

[heatseeker0714]

What's our next step?

 

Hope and pray that the PRC fires the first shot.

Edited April 27, 2012 by heatseeker0714

[hellyeah1]

It will trigger the shooting war ...Bwekekekekekekeke!

 

If Chinese hackers could hack some of our websites, they sure as hell could hack MTC but I don't think they already have, otherwise, some posts on this thread would be erased.

[wendy testicleger]

What's our next step?

Run away from the Chinese intruders.

[ramonalito]

If utilization is the issue why not enter into a joint venture development of the area? Occupation or ownership can be a very tedious debate and in the meantime no one's benefiting from the resources there.