Pacquiao-Mayweather: “It’s going to happen”

[Edmund Dantes]

Who is RJJ?

 

Roy Jones Jr.

 

roy jones jr.. mukang di sila mag ka weight ni mayweather sir...come to think of it yung laban ni pacman at ni mayweather ay parang yung match up ni leonard at ni hagler. mayweather being leonard and pacman as hagler..by the way talo si hagler nun..sana hindi ganun ang maging resulta ng laban ni pbf at pacman.

 

Hindi yung weightclass tinutukoy ko dito kundi yung kanyang fighting style. Tulad ni Mayweather, speed, reflexes, at higit sa lahat accuracy and timing main arsenal nya. Pinagkaiba lang, more offensive si RJJ, depensa naman si Mayweather. In his prime, RJJ was so quick and accurate, he does not even need to work his jab to establish his powershots. He can also punch in volume at awkward angles. His fists were like heat-seeking missiles that can easily weed out the target no matter where it hides. On top of that, mahirap din sya tamaan dahil ang galing ng catlike reflexes nya. Yan ang style na pwede makatalo sa depensa ni Mayweather

 

Si Manny sa totoo lang, di maganda yung reflexes nya kaya ang dali nya matamaan. Di sya ganun kagaling umilag.

 

Iba din naman ang fighting style ni Hagler kay Pacquiao. Maganda kay hagler kahit kaliwete sya kaya nya magpalit to a right-handed stance pag kelangan. To be fair with Leonard, hindi naman takbo ginawa nya dun, mas gumamit lang sya ng movements and didnt wanna engage too much kasi alam nyang talo sya dun. Pero totoo panalo dapat si Hagler.

[bughaw1]

one thing is for sure,this will be one hell of a fight.i hope it would be in the caliber of a hearns vs hagler or castillo vs corrales 1...the manly art of modified murder so to speak hehe.

[Momxxx]

How much kaya ang pay per view nito?

[mhar juan]

Pacquiao vs. Mayweather: "Fast & Furious- FINALLY" 5.2.15

 

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[shadow555]

Hmmm, I wonder now. Which will be more disappointing.

 

Manny losing to Money

or

Draw!!!!

 

???

 

Ako I'd say the draw would be way more disappointing!

 

Of course Christmas will come in early May if Manny wins!

[hartbeatsenpai]

FINALLY

[Edmund Dantes]

one thing is for sure,this will be one hell of a fight.i hope it would be in the caliber of a hearns vs hagler or castillo vs corrales 1...the manly art of modified murder so to speak hehe.

 

Hmmmm, OO entertaining yung mga toe to toe fights, pero we gotta appreciate din na minsan as violent as this sport is, pwede rin syang maging graceful parang ballet. Back to my bull VS matador, nakakaaliw panoorin yung matador how he stays in composure and dances away from trouble pag sugod ng sugod torro sa kanya. Ganyan tingin ko sa mga slick boxers. In as much as nakakaaliw si Pacquiao sumuntok ng volume punches sa kalaban na parang tazmanian devil, astig din tignan si Mayweather na kahit nasa lubid na at binibira ng 100 na suntok lahat napapadaplis nya lang.

[Edmund Dantes]

Hmmm, I wonder now. Which will be more disappointing.

 

Manny losing to Money

or

Draw!!!!

 

???

 

Ako I'd say the draw would be way more disappointing!

 

Of course Christmas will come in early May if Manny wins!

 

Yes at yayabang nanaman sigurado mga pinoytards sa internet.

 

Sakin, huwag na lang sana matalo si Pacquiao tulad ng nangyari kay Marquez na sobrang "lights out" talaga. Papano 6 na buwan ba naman maghanda yung kalaban mo, tapos ikaw 2 months na nga lang nagbulakbol pa sa training. Siningit pa sa schedule kampanya ng utol. Manny really underestimated yung determination ni Marquez. He was robbed 3 times, and he was really pissed off.

[Maj Mujtaba]

pacquaio KO mayweather on the 8th round

[Edmund Dantes]

I don't think Marquez was robbed three times but during the third fight, I think he was definitely robbed. Marquez seemed to land more punches in their third fight. The problem with Manny was during the third fight he wanted to make it a brawl but Marquez wanted none of it. Marquez's counterpunching kept Pacquiao at bay in that fight. Pacman has the speed to rout Dinamita but he forced the issue in the third fight. If he just continued to stick with his side to side movement and hit Dinamita at angles, Marquez would not have had a chance.

 

 

First fight sige, si Pacquiao dapat panalo dun kasi mali lang score nung isang judge. Majority decision sana

 

Second Fight, bukod sa isang KD credit kay Pacquiao at yung sumunod na round na di pa fully recovered tuhod ni Marquez, lahat naman halos ng round talo sya. Panalo dapat dito si Marquez

 

Third Fight, dito talaga shattered yung invincibility myth ni Pacquiao. Akala natin lahat malaki yung improvement nya after Dela Hoya. Yun pala di pa din nasolve yung problema nya against counterpunchers. Mas nakalaban dito si Manny, pero halatang out of composure sya dito.

 

Fourth Fight, I gotta give props to Marquez for delivering what he promised. He was so determined to KO pacquiao, he trained nearly half a year for the fight. When he marched on to that ring, Marquez looked like a beast

[shadow555]

Yung last fight I 100% agree, iba talaga yung conditioning ni Marquez. Eh tingnan mo lang si Marquez, bato bato talaga compared to Manny. Parang yung isa 100% ready, yung isa parang may hangover pa! (I'm exaggerating of course).

 

Edmund, yung celebration pag nananalo, we can't take that away, pero I agree naman na shouldn't be bragging na, I really have not personally seen what you were describing na nagyayabang sa internet, I guess yung mga yun deserves the nickname you call them Pinoytards! Yung hindi nalang magsaya na nanalo yung Pambansang Kamao, eh mang iingit, mang susolsol pa? parang batang, nye,nye, nye nye talo kayo panalo kami!? Parang sila yung lumaban sa ring?

 

Anyways lets not talk about celebrations yet, until matapos yung laban, but we are celebrating na MAY Laban na at last

 

I hope that the outcome of this fight, as I said is "decisive", wag naman sanang Draw!

[Edmund Dantes]

Yung last fight I 100% agree, iba talaga yung conditioning ni Marquez. Eh tingnan mo lang si Marquez, bato bato talaga compared to Manny. Parang yung isa 100% ready, yung isa parang may hangover pa! (I'm exaggerating of course).

 

Edmund, yung celebration pag nananalo, we can't take that away, pero I agree naman na shouldn't be bragging na, I really have not personally seen what you were describing na nagyayabang sa internet, I guess yung mga yun deserves the nickname you call them Pinoytards! Yung hindi nalang magsaya na nanalo yung Pambansang Kamao, eh mang iingit, mang susolsol pa? parang batang, nye,nye, nye nye talo kayo panalo kami!? Parang sila yung lumaban sa ring?

 

Anyways lets not talk about celebrations yet, until matapos yung laban, but we are celebrating na MAY Laban na at last

 

I hope that the outcome of this fight, as I said is "decisive", wag naman sanang Draw!

 

Marquez deserved to win that fight. His victory was good for the sport. If you do not agree then you are surely not a fight fan. I am saying this because it was indeed an injustice that he was never awarded the victory he deserved in the second or third outing man lang. Its also inspiring that for his age, he really got to improve on his game. Talagang nagfocus yung tao, samantalang si Pacquiao, bulakbol sa training. Sa Gensan pa nagtraining kung saan ang dami distractions.

 

Nakakaasar kasi mga gaya ni Chino Trinidad na certified pactard. Wala naman kaalam alam sa boxing yung tao. Alam ko basketball naman talaga forte nya. Kesyo, nagaapak daw ng paa si Marquez, eh kita nga sa mga replay kahit naman si Pacquiao naapakan din paa ni Marquez. Kesyo lucky punch daw, samantalang kahit ilang beses mo panoorin replay, halatang sa mitts pa lang inaral nila yung suntok na yun, kaya came fighgt night relfexes na lang talaga gumana. At higit pa dun, baka daw on PED si Marquez. This guy is really has no business being a commentator on boxing. Kahit yung mga di laban ni Pacquiao, alam mong walang alam sa mga pinagsasabi.

 

Tapos yung mga pinoy naman, tignan mo kung pano magaastang kala mo kung sinong siga sa mga keyboard nila. Tignan mo sa youtube o sa kahit na anong social media. Pag panalo si pacquiao ang lakas mangasar sa mga mexicano. Gawan ng gawa ng kung ano anong meme. Pero nung si Pacquiao naman ginawan ng meme, "waaaaaaah you are racist, why did you insult our country waaaaaaah".

[fatboyxxx]

Mayweather by ko on the later rounds :/.

[darkspider]

Mayweather Udecision .. power goes to pacquiao for sure and speed wise mayweather got this dept.. question is: aanhin ang solid/powerful na suntok kung hindi naman tatamaan ang kalaban, kung tamaan man di ganon kasolid but who knows baka makatsamba si manny.. unless di pa nagsisimula ang laban e nakaset na to for a trilogy .. boxing mafia hmmmm

[Edmund Dantes]

Mayweather Udecision .. power goes to pacquiao for sure and speed wise mayweather got this dept.. question is: aanhin ang solid/powerful na suntok kung hindi naman tatamaan ang kalaban, kung tamaan man di ganon kasolid but who knows baka makatsamba si manny.. unless di pa nagsisimula ang laban e nakaset na to for a trilogy .. boxing mafia hmmmm

 

Tumpak ka dyan parekoy! Yan ang pinakamahirap na challenge kay Pacquiao. Tatamaan nya ba kung pumasok sya sa guard ni Mayweather? Si Marquez kahit papano mabagal kaya natatamaan. Si Mayweather ni hindi kelangan sumangga, kasi ang bilis ng reflexes ng gago. Ang dami nya ng nakalaban na volume punchers pero talagang magaling depensa nya. Pinakaastig na mayweather move para sakin, yung sasandal sa lubid, hahayaan sumuntok ng madami kalaban, tapos lahat either daplis o mintis lang. Bale yung baba naaktuck ng maayos sa deltoid, kanang glove naka takip sa panga, tapus pihit ng bewang at balikat.

 

Katawa nga mga boxing analyst natin, halatang nagpapakapactard lang. Ewan ko kung ano pinagsasasabi. Na kesyo tatakbo ng tatakbo si Mayweather daw, at di mananalo kung puro depensa lang. Hindi naman ganyan style ng counterpunchers. Ang gagawin nya, aabangan nya talaga si Manny at gagamitin nya sarili nitong momentum at aggression sa kanya. Parang ginawa kay hatton.

[RED2018]

Here are some factors/circumstances/elements Manny could use to try to beat Floyd:

 

1. Mayweather has been hit hard lately: Although his defensive reflexes have always been phenomenal, Mayweather was hit hard a few times by Marcos Maidana in their two fights (and by Miguel Cotto and Shane Mosley in recent years). Maidana 'probably' has more power than Pacquiao, but Pacquiao, with his better boxing skills, will put himself into position to hit Mayweather more often than Maidana could. And while Mayweather’s chin has never failed him before, a solid punch by Pacquiao will test him. A lot of Manny's punches might not land, but the ones that do, will certainly hurt Floyd.

 

2. Pacquiao is the underdog and considered the B fighter here: Mayweather reportedly is receiving 60 percent of the purse, and it’s seemed all along that Mayweather was ultimately the man in charge why this fight actually will eventually happen. Pacquiao has plenty of power in the sport’s political arena, but it’s dwarfed by Mayweather’s shining star. So, Pacquiao has had to acquiesce to Mayweather, and when the two get into the ring, Pacquiao will have a greater motivation to get the chance to make Mayweather pay for it.

 

3. Manny may have learned his lesson/s with the Marquez debacle: Pacquiao could potentially run into a Mayweather counter, but being a southpaw it would be a nightmare for Floyd to get inside, retrieve, target and release. And Pacquiao has become more versatile heading inside the body, something he quickly learned against Marquez. Coach Freddie may have devised a plan to counter a counterpuncher.Many would say "you can't teach an old dog new tricks". But great motivation and focus would, as Marquez did when he tediously plan for their 4th encounter

 

4. Manny prays a lot harder than Floyd. Many may laugh at this 'logic', but hey don't underestimate what prayers can do. Now another reason why people think Pacquiao has wined-down his typhoon like knockouts on the ring is based on the assumption that he took enhancement drugs otherwise known as PED’s. Let clarify something, he has never tested positive for any PED’s under any regulatory commission. The truth is, he did become a calmer fighter when he became a Christian. As even Freddy Roach, asked him to ‘get back his killer instinct’ which vanished after Pacquiao started his conversion to Christianity. We can at least all agree, Pacquiao experienced a spiritual transformation right at the same time when he also stopped chowing people on the ring a few years back. .

 

5. But lets talk science. According to an article published by Max Kellerman on ESPN a few years back, it quotes, “ CompuBox showed Castillo throwing and landing many more punches and powerpunches than Floyd. At the end of the night Mayweather had indeed been hit more than Castillo.” I guess the opinion of Floyd fans is more scientific than Compubox, also used in Princeton for technical research. But Floyd fans need not to panic because the judges gave the decision to Floyd, they skipped the science part. If Castillo posed that great of a threat to young Floyd, would you agree that fighting Pacquiao would be more problematic specially considering Floyd is older? However, the young Castillo could indeed be better than Pacquiao 2.0.

 

Personally, I would want Manny to win simply because he's our kababayan...Actually, my mind says it's gonna be Floyd, but my heart hopes it would be Manny...

Edited February 27, 2015 by artedpro

[Edmund Dantes]

Here are some factors/circumstances/elements Manny could use to try to beat Floyd:

 

1. Mayweather has been hit hard lately: Although his defensive reflexes have always been phenomenal, Mayweather was hit hard a few times by Marcos Maidana in their two fights (and by Miguel Cotto and Shane Mosley in recent years). Maidana 'probably' has more power than Pacquiao, but Pacquiao, with his better boxing skills, will put himself into position to hit Mayweather more often than Maidana could. And while Mayweather’s chin has never failed him before, a solid punch by Pacquiao will test him. A lot of Manny's punches might not land, but the ones that do, will certainly hurt Floyd.

 

True, this is Manny's best chance, capitalize on some of Floyd's wear and tear. But then again Floyd is the master of adjustments, can Pacquiaos tazmanian devil approach neutralize this? we'll see

 

 

2. Pacquiao is the underdog and considered the B fighter here: Mayweather reportedly is receiving 60 percent of the purse, and it’s seemed all along that Mayweather was ultimately the man in charge why this fight actually will eventually happen. Pacquiao has plenty of power in the sport’s political arena, but it’s dwarfed by Mayweather’s shining star. So, Pacquiao has had to acquiesce to Mayweather, and when the two get into the ring, Pacquiao will have a greater motivation to get the chance to make Mayweather pay for it.

 

Lets hope hindi naman sya magbulakbol sobra sa training. See, nun pang kay Cotto, panay na sya bulakbol sa training. Imbes sa wild card gym sa los angeles na walang distractions, sa baguo na lang para maaccomodate commitments nya sa pilipinas. Syempre umpisa di pa magkakaroon ng effect yan. Pero yung paulit ulit na pagpupuyat, pagaatupag ng mga bagay outside boxing na nakakasira ng kundisyon nya, lahat yan eventually magpile up at aapekto sa kanya. Worst training camp siguro yung kay Margarito, at lalong lalo na yung part 4 kay Marquez. Sa 24/7 pa lang kitang parang hindi sineryoso ni Manny training nya.

 

 

3. Manny may have learned his lesson/s with the Marquez debacle: Pacquiao could potentially run into a Mayweather counter, but being a southpaw it would be a nightmare for Floyd to get inside, retrieve, target and release. And Pacquiao has become more versatile heading inside the body, something he quickly learned against Marquez. Coach Freddie may have devised a plan to counter a counterpuncher.Many would say "you can't teach an old dog new tricks". But great motivation and focus would, as Marquez did when he tediously plan for their 4th encounter

 

 

Here is my theory. At a certain stage in a boxer's career, you can only improve his style but not overhaul it completely. Case in point. Hatton wanted to be a more defensive fighter, so he hired Floyd Sr. However when the bell rang, he still fought the best way he knew how. Like a bulldozer, attack attack attack, smother the opponent, pound the body, and not protect your own chin. Before roach, Manny was already a volume puncher/slugger. Roach gave him better footwork, stronger right hand, head movement, but he still fights the way he does. What improvement can be made to neutralize Floyd's superior counterpunching ability and awesome defense?

 

 

4. Manny prays a lot harder than Floyd. Many may laugh at this 'logic', but hey don't underestimate what prayers can do. Now another reason why people think Pacquiao has wined-down his typhoon like knockouts on the ring is based on the assumption that he took enhancement drugs otherwise known as PED’s. Let clarify something, he has never tested positive for any PED’s under any regulatory commission. The truth is, he did become a calmer fighter when he became a Christian. As even Freddy Roach, asked him to ‘get back his killer instinct’ which vanished after Pacquiao started his conversion to Christianity. We can at least all agree, Pacquiao experienced a spiritual transformation right at the same time when he also stopped chowing people on the ring a few years back. .

 

 

Well in his prime Foreman was one fierce heavyweight. He was even the inspiration for Clubber Lang. But outside the ring he was a preacher. Nonetheless hindi killer instinct makakapanalo dito kundi more of a good tactical plan.

 

 

5. But lets talk science. According to an article published by Max Kellerman on ESPN a few years back, it quotes, “ CompuBox showed Castillo throwing and landing many more punches and powerpunches than Floyd. At the end of the night Mayweather had indeed been hit more than Castillo.” I guess the opinion of Floyd fans is more scientific than Compubox, also used in Princeton for technical research. But Floyd fans need not to panic because the judges gave the decision to Floyd, they skipped the science part. If Castillo posed that great of a threat to young Floyd, would you agree that fighting Pacquiao would be more problematic specially considering Floyd is older? However, the young Castillo could indeed be better than Pacquiao 2.0.

 

 

Watching JLC fight, puro naman kasi fouls ang nakapalamang kay Floyd dun. Nonetheless, in the second fight he effectively adjusted and dismantled him.

 

 

Personally, I would want Manny to win simply because he's our kababayan...Actually, my mind says it's gonna be Floyd, but my heart hopes it would be Manny...

 

 

Yeah I share the same senitment. At the end of the day, the athlete who has better skills will win. Forget who is the hero and the villain.

[hartbeatsenpai]

win or lose pacquiao is still the better man

[VR12]

win or lose pacquiao is still the better man

Agree!

[Edmund Dantes]

win or lose pacquiao is still the better man

 

 

Agree!

 

 

Better man in what sense? Hindi naman natin personally kilala si Manny o si Floyd ng personal di ba? We only know them as far as they are portrayed in media. Floyd being the trash talking punk from the ghetto, and Manny the peoples champ. Its easy to see that Manny here is the hero and Floyd the villain but that don't necessarily reflect how they are exactly in real life.

 

Come to think of it, Manny did use drugs, is a gambler, and a womanizer. Ngayon he is acting like a typical trapo. Di na nga sineseryoso trabaho sa congresso, nagtatayo pa ng political dynasty nya. I mean sure he has redeeming traits, but I don't believe he is the saint our media portrays him to be. Anymore than I believe Floyd is an arrogant douchebag in real life. Active din nga daw ito si Money sa civic work pero di naman nagmamakaawa sa press na magsulat tungkol dito.

 

Remember, George Foreman was the inspiration for Clubber Lang. Inside the sport he was the Mike Tyson of his generation. But in fact he is a preacher.

 

But anyway, simple lang naman eto eh, the better athlete deserves to win. The one that has better skills and honed his craft better over years of fighting. Masasabi ko, si Floyd ito. At least kasi sya, boxing lang pinagkaabalahan. Si Manny ang daming vanity project. Pati pagiging congressman nya binabastos nya lang. Inaabuso celebrity status nya.

[flappy]

Sa wakas! Pacquiao!!! Manalo o manalo! Joke, pero win or lose kay Manny padin!

[shadow555]

1. Mayweather has been hit hard lately: Although his defensive reflexes have always been phenomenal, Mayweather was hit hard a few times by Marcos Maidana in their two fights (and by Miguel Cotto and Shane Mosley in recent years). Maidana 'probably' has more power than Pacquiao, but Pacquiao, with his better boxing skills, will put himself into position to hit Mayweather more often than Maidana could. And while Mayweathers chin has never failed him before, a solid punch by Pacquiao will test him. A lot of Manny's punches might not land, but the ones that do, will certainly hurt Floyd.

 

I think most of us are agreeing about what Manny has to do to win. I agree with above theory and plan. One thing that needs to be assured though, Manny will have to throw a lot more punches to try to land some (right?) which means he really has to be on top shape, as Edmund says, No more Bulakbol! I am just wondering if 3 months is enough for him to get to that level?

 

Man, I just hope that secretly he has been training for Boxing and not for Basketball though.

 

We can at least all agree, Pacquiao experienced a spiritual transformation right at the same time when he also stopped chowing people on the ring a few years back. .

 

Sorry but if ever, this means that he did lose his killer instinct, and in this sport and specially with this fight, it is a big disadvantage. BUT....

 

In my opinion lang, killer instinct or lack thereof is only relevant if you are the dominant fighter. If you are not dominating, then self preservation will be the one to kick in.

 

I don't think, in this match at least, Manny will be dominating. If he convinces himself that he actually is, then it will be the biggest mistake of his boxing life.

 

I rooting for Manny, I want him to beat Money, but I am just saying it as I see it, we the fans can hope, fantasize all we want about Manny dominating this fight, but by gosh he himself should really really OVER estimate Floyd.

Kundi..... Heartbreak!

 

[bruno010191]

It would have been better if they fought during their primes. But as they say, better late than never. Hoping for a Pacquiao KO.

[Doctor Juris]

dapat within 6 round mapatumba ni pacman si gayweather kundi baka matalo tayo.

 

style ni gayweather takbo banat takbo banat.

 

dapat habang maaga habulin ni pacman at pulbusin na agad baka maka tsamba. at syempre ito pa ang kailangan. ang SIKRET WIPON!!!!!!

[Edmund Dantes]

dapat within 6 round mapatumba ni pacman si gayweather kundi baka matalo tayo.

 

style ni gayweather takbo banat takbo banat.

 

dapat habang maaga habulin ni pacman at pulbusin na agad baka maka tsamba. at syempre ito pa ang kailangan. ang SIKRET WIPON!!!!!!

 

Clearly Sir, you do not really watch Floyd's fight, nor do you know much about boxing. Kung ganyan ang style ni Mayweather, hindi sya aabot ng 47-0. Tandaan mo, ayaw na ayaw ng mga judges ng ganyan. Kaya natalo si Dela Hoya noon kay Trinidad kasi yan ginawa kaya natalo sa decision. Sa lahat ng decision na naipanalo ni Floyd, isang beses pa lang sya natalo sa scorecard. Dalawang beses lang tumabla.

 

Pangalawa, hindi naman tama yung anatomy nya para sa ganyan style. Ang mga pwede dito, yung mga matatangkad at mahabang kamay tulad ni Wladimir Klitschko at syempre ni Muhammad Ali na puros Jab at gamit ang footwork para di maabot ng kalaban. Outside figthing ang tawag sa sinasabi mo. Hindi outside fighters ang mga counterpuncher.

 

Ang style ni Floyd, aantayin ka nya pumasok, ifru-frustrate ka nya. Kahit anong lapit ng distansya di mo matatamaan kasi matindi reflexes nya. Tapos counter, at hahabulin ka ng banat pag napapaatras ka na na. Yan ang problema ni Manny, di nya na alam gagawin nya pag napapaatras na. At minsan nangigigil din sya. Sina Hatton, Ortiz, Maidana, lahat nainis dahil hindi matamaan ng suntok si Floyd kaya nagumpisa na magkamali mali on the later rounds.

 

Dyan mo maapreciate ang laro ng boxing, hindi yan puro aggression at sugod ng sugod. Utakan din yan.