Team Pilipinas Basketball

[stonecoldrock]

buti nalang hindi pa na injure yung sinahod ni arboleda

[Agent_mulder]

Giles is distracted dahil daw may life-threatening illness ang anak n'ya, he only played for 5 minutes against tnt which raised a lot of eyebrows at 'di s'ya naglaro against Ginebra. Questionable 'yung 5 mins. lang s'ya naglaro against tnt as we all knew is owned by mvp while SG is funded by the same person, 'yung kasing panalo syempre ng tnt against SG would reflect in their win-loss records and might be vital to their chances in this conference..

[Guest megalodon]

Giles is distracted dahil daw may life-threatening illness ang anak n'ya, he only played for 5 minutes against tnt which raised a lot of eyebrows at 'di s'ya naglaro against Ginebra. Questionable 'yung 5 mins. lang s'ya naglaro against tnt as we all knew is owned by mvp while SG is funded by the same person, 'yung kasing panalo syempre ng tnt against SG would reflect in their win-loss records and might be vital to their chances in this conference..

Shades of NCC and Magnolia in the mid-80's. Parati nagpapatalo NCC sa Magnolia since guest team lang naman sila. Both were sister teams funded by Big Boss Danding.

Edited October 26, 2009 by megalodon

[catsumhoto]

a lot of pipol kept comparing this team with ncc team... however we tend to forget that the competition is far different from what the ncc have during its heydays.... remember during that time wala p asian player n naglalaro s nba... the equation has change n talaga.... china has three.... iran and korea each has one.... lebanon has an nba import... well tayo just like before e wala p din hangang ngayon...

[dencio]

^^ And what's wrong with comparing the Smart-Gilas program with the NCC program? Both had the same objective - to elevate Philippine basketball back to the top (or near the top) in the region. Even then, nanga-ngamote na ang 'Pinas sa Asia. Am sure many of the posters here are basketball-savvy enough to know that the competition has changed. Kaya nga binuo ito eh, because the competition keeps getting stronger while our national teams are stuck in neutral. We need to keep up!

 

Sabi mo palitan na ang personnel. Sino naman ang nakikita mo na dapat kasama sa team? You are suggesting 5-6 foreigners to beef up the team. Is this aside from Giles? Alam mo ba na may limitation din ang naturalized players sa international tournaments? Hindi rin makakalaro ang mga yun! So ibig sabihin din ba na okay sa 'yo na kalahati ng team eh banyaga basta mag-champion lang?

 

The goal is still 2 to 3 years down the road. Don't expect any miracles or quick-fixes. In the meantime, be patient and optimistic.

[catsumhoto]

smart gilas is like NU in the UAAP. they have finally got a big financier to back up basketball program. however like NU is the personnel involve in the team enough to get us back on top of ASIA? THE PROGRAM IS NOBLE. THEIR AIM is unquestionable. I guess everybody in this thread really wish them luck. However, lets be realistic about our situation. The games played against the PBA team without giles is an eye opener that we really don't have the bigs to match up against other asian team that have a complete package. remember that they played four games in japan and got beaten handily by their national team.. So the team have a lot of catching up to do.

[catsumhoto]

the pba now is having second thought about the participation of smart gilas now that giles is a doubtful starter with the team.. they are now considering not counting the wins (if ever) of smart gilas. they have come to the realization that the smart gilas team is not as competitive as they thought without giles. giles is definately a double double player, and that translate into more than twenty points, the same number they have to make up for the twin loss they suffer. i say let them play so that we will be able to know the true stte of philippine basketball.

[amante]

the pba now is having second thought about the participation of smart gilas now that giles is a doubtful starter with the team.. they are now considering not counting the wins (if ever) of smart gilas. they have come to the realization that the smart gilas team is not as competitive as they thought without giles. giles is definately a double double player, and that translate into more than twenty points, the same number they have to make up for the twin loss they suffer. i say let them play so that we will be able to know the true stte of philippine basketball.

parang nabasa ko din nga yan eh

lito alvarez is leading the charge saying that is was a costly win for his team playing Gilas, having lost their team captain for one year.

 

parang ganito ang rationale/series of events

 

Giles cant play, uncertain when he'd be back

Without Giles, PBA teams believe Gilas as a pushover, which probably rightly so

They say that its unfair for their teams to play Gilas when they are weak versus when Giles gets back and they become stronger

 

solution: Ban Giles from playing

and/or

not count the games won (if ever there is going to be any)

 

talk about politics in sports

you have a classic one right there

aside from Guiao, meron bang may balak sa kanilang tumakbo next year?!?

[catsumhoto]

i sy let them play... with or without giles... ano man resulta they should learn to play with such an disadvantage.... what if giles got injured during the asian tournament.... they should learn to adjust now and make plays without their bigman....

[maxx_pee]

Smart Gilas should be more than a 3 year program. 3 years is not enough. The 2012 Olympics will only allow ONE slot for Asia. The odds are greatly stacked against the RP.

 

The SBP should make Smart Gilas a 6 year program, culminating in the 2014 World Championships and the 2016 Brazil Olympics. By that time, the young Smart Gilas players will already be in their prime.

 

Again, a 3 year program is not enough time. What will happen when the 3 years is over? Will the SBP start from scratch, and create a brand new roster?

 

The SBP needs to construct a PERMANENT program, just like other countries. The question is, is Manny Pangilinan willing to fund this thing permanently.

[Guest megalodon]

Looks like Smart-Gilas is going on an European educational tour and will go up against European teams.

 

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?artic...ubCategoryId=69

[catsumhoto]

Smart Gilas should be more than a 3 year program. 3 years is not enough. The 2012 Olympics will only allow ONE slot for Asia. The odds are greatly stacked against the RP.

 

The SBP should make Smart Gilas a 6 year program, culminating in the 2014 World Championships and the 2016 Brazil Olympics. By that time, the young Smart Gilas players will already be in their prime.

 

Again, a 3 year program is not enough time. What will happen when the 3 years is over? Will the SBP start from scratch, and create a brand new roster?

 

The SBP needs to construct a PERMANENT program, just like other countries. The question is, is Manny Pangilinan willing to fund this thing permanently.

 

I AGREE!!! before we embark on a quest let us step back and look at the opposition... what are our chances against our asian neighbor....one slot allocated for london olympics.... the last time i check china is rank no. 09 in the world as for us we are no. 54 lot of catching up to do....do this team has the material to match up man for man against china? or even the arab players? if not might as well drop this team now and start planning for 2016 or even beyond 2016... we should have players with large built and if you look at the present horizon even our youth team cannot match up pound for pound against the bigger player of asia.... even japeth, which lot of analyst is staking their reputation is deem as the future of philippine basketball, well sad to say if he really is the future then our future is as bleak as typhoon ondoy.....

[Guest megalodon]

Let's just give these boys a chance. You can get pessimistic all you want but this will be our team for the next 3 years.

[catsumhoto]

wetend to compare this team with the NCC team of DANDING... well the NCC team of DANDING has three AMERICANS playing as FIL-sham, we tend to forget that its the 3 AMERCIAN import that has basically do the damage for us... DENNIS STILL, JEFF MOORE, CHIp ENGELAND RACTICALLY COMPRISE 3/4 PRODUCTIN OF THE TEAM.... sure caidic and samboy were able to shine... but bck then our main opposition where china, korea, japan. they are still learning the ropes of basketball and has practically leap frog over us.... then the new threat coming from the middle eastern countries... while they were able to develope a program for their national team.. our sports leaders went out of their way trying to recruit fil foreigner to beef up our team.... i think we can't even land on the top ten asian team if we sent a team compose of Philippine born player... same case also with swimming our sports official try to recruit fil foreigner to beef up the team thereby neglecting grassroot developement.... there was an article about a UST junior swimmer who has broken every existing UAAP junior record and has stop competing because of lack of competition from other UAAP school, the national swimming association never extend any help to this kid in terms of developing or sending him abroad to further enhance his talent.... thats the real state of Philipine sports..... quite pitifull

[Guest megalodon]

wetend to compare this team with the NCC team of DANDING... well the NCC team of DANDING has three AMERICANS playing as FIL-sham, we tend to forget that its the 3 AMERCIAN import that has basically do the damage for us... DENNIS STILL, JEFF MOORE, CHIp ENGELAND RACTICALLY COMPRISE 3/4 PRODUCTIN OF THE TEAM.... sure caidic and samboy were able to shine... but bck then our main opposition where china, korea, japan. they are still learning the ropes of basketball and has practically leap frog over us.... then the new threat coming from the middle eastern countries... while they were able to develope a program for their national team.. our sports leaders went out of their way trying to recruit fil foreigner to beef up our team.... i think we can't even land on the top ten asian team if we sent a team compose of Philippine born player... same case also with swimming our sports official try to recruit fil foreigner to beef up the team thereby neglecting grassroot developement.... there was an article about a UST junior swimmer who has broken every existing UAAP junior record and has stop competing because of lack of competition from other UAAP school, the national swimming association never extend any help to this kid in terms of developing or sending him abroad to further enhance his talent.... thats the real state of Philipine sports..... quite pitifull

Let me rectify what you said. First of all, when NCC won the ABC (the former name of FIBA-Asia), they had only Moore and Still. Engelland wasn't around. Second, the Chinese and Koreans were already basketball powers in Asia that time together with the Philippines. Is it wrong to maximize the rule of having naturalized players? To name a few cases in point: Hakeem Olajuwon in 1996 for Team USA in the Olympics, JR Holden, an American, who played for the Russian Team in the 2007 FIBA-Europe, Jackson Vroman, an American, who played for Lebanon in the FIBA-Asia recently. You're an idealist and you're obviously blinded by this idealism of yours that only pure Pinoys should play for flag and country. The reality is basketball is evolving and this includes tapping the services of foreign players and we need to do what we have to do to improve our level of basketball even if it means getting a naturalized player which is in the FIBA rulebook.