Team Pilipinas Basketball

[xslasher]

sinu-sino ang mga players ng team na to?

 

line-up nila from wikipedia, not sure if this is final but i think we should give them a chance.

 

Pos. # POB Name Ht. Wt. College

1.0 PG 4 PHI  Barroca, Andy 68 5 ft 8 in (1.73 m) 170 lb (77 kg) FEU*

4.5 F/C 5 PHI  Ramos, Aldrech 78 6 ft 6 in (1.98 m) 210 lb (95 kg) FEU*

1.5 G 6 PHI  Casio, JV 72 6 ft 0 in (1.83 m) 175 lb (79 kg) La Salle*

3.0 SF 7 PHI  Ababou, Dylan 75 6 ft 3 in (1.91 m) 185 lb (84 kg) UST*

1.5 G 8 PHI  Tiu, Chris 71 5 ft 11 in (1.8 m) 170 lb (77 kg) Ateneo*

5.0 C 9 USA  Slaughter, Gregory 83 6 ft 11 in (2.11 m) 245 lb (111 kg) UV*

2.5 G/F 10 PHI  Baracael, Mac 75 6 ft 3 in (1.91 m) 185 lb (84 kg) FEU*

5.0 C 11 USA  Giles, C.J. 83 6 ft 11 in (2.11 m) 247 lb (112 kg) Oregon State*

4.5 F/C 12 PHI  Ballesteros, Jason 78 6 ft 6 in (1.98 m) 220 lb (100 kg) San Sebastian*

3.5 F 13 PHI  Guevarra, Rey 75 6 ft 3 in (1.91 m) 200 lb (91 kg) Letran*

1.0 PG 14 PHI  Jazul, RJ 71 5 ft 11 in (1.8 m) 180 lb (82 kg) Letran*

2.5 G/F 15 PHI  Cawaling, JR 74 6 ft 2 in (1.88 m) 190 lb (86 kg) FEU*

4.5 F/C 16 PHI  Al-Hussaini, Rabeh 79 6 ft 7 in (2.01 m) 220 lb (100 kg) Ateneo*

2.0 SG 17 USA  Lutz, Chris 75 6 ft 3 in (1.91 m) 190 lb (86 kg) Marshall University*

3.0 SF 18 PHI  Anthony, Sean 76 6 ft 4 in (1.93 m) 200 lb (91 kg) De La Salle*

4.5 F/C 19 PHI  Fajardo, Junmar 82 6 ft 10 in (2.08 m) 225 lb (102 kg) Cebu*

Head coach

Rajko Toroman

Assistant coach(es)

Allan Gregorio

 

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Legend

© Team captain

(DP) Unsigned draft pick

(FA) Free agent

(IN) Inactive

(S) Suspended

(I) = Import

Injured

[kb824]

Forming the Smart Gilas team by the SBP was the right move for our national team to do good

in international competition. The players are not allowed to turn pro but are well compensated

for their services. Some of the players who turn down the offer from the amateur ranks are

Maeirhoffer, Menor, Arellano, Cruz. Although the intention is well organized, we all know basing

from the line-up mentioned above that they don't have the material to be competitive. Even if they

practiced everyday for 3 years. They need some players from the pros to compensate for their lack

of ceiling. The SBP is considering to naturalized certain players to make up for their lack of ceiling inside.

CJ Giles is being considered but recently i saw playing in the NBA Summer League. Hopefully, all our

basketball leaders would unite for goal to come true...OLYMPICS

[peithe]

good point by peithe...

 

hmm, for the nation, i guess smart gilas should get SOME players from PBA.. like norwood dillinger and i think sol mercado..or whoever they think could help them win..

 

--ewan lang kung payagan sila ng mother teams..

 

--sana talaga puwede sila kumuha ng pba players, yun needed talaga kahit ilan lang. then in exchange, makakuha ang mother team ng additional draft pick sa 1st round...

 

what do u think guys?

 

I doubt if papayag ang ibang teams na may additional draft pick na kapalit. But I think its part now of the mother team's moral obligation to the flag whether they will or will not agree to lending the players being requested.

[amante]

Forming the Smart Gilas team by the SBP was the right move for our national team to do good

in international competition. The players are not allowed to turn pro but are well compensated

for their services. Some of the players who turn down the offer from the amateur ranks are

Maeirhoffer, Menor, Arellano, Cruz. Although the intention is well organized, we all know basing

from the line-up mentioned above that they don't have the material to be competitive. Even if they

practiced everyday for 3 years. They need some players from the pros to compensate for their lack

of ceiling. The SBP is considering to naturalized certain players to make up for their lack of ceiling inside.

CJ Giles is being considered but recently i saw playing in the NBA Summer League. Hopefully, all our

basketball leaders would unite for goal to come true...OLYMPICS

 

I dont think ceiling is would be the issue for the Gilas team. As it is, Gilas is actually taller than most PBA teams.

What they do lack is experience, cohesiveness and court sense...sa madaling salita, gulang

 

I do think that they're on the right track.

Im not sure if Norwood, Aguilar and/or Dillinger's current home teams have given the green light on them joining the Gilas team, not with the recent statements of Toroman (and SBP) and Guiao (PBA)

[peithe]

I dont think ceiling is would be the issue for the Gilas team. As it is, Gilas is actually taller than most PBA teams.

What they do lack is experience, cohesiveness and court sense...sa madaling salita, gulang

 

I do think that they're on the right track.

Im not sure if Norwood, Aguilar and/or Dillinger's current home teams have given the green light on them joining the Gilas team, not with the recent statements of Toroman (and SBP) and Guiao (PBA)

 

I guess by international standards, this Gilas team will be small since our PG and SG are mere 6'0 or less. our wings are at least 6'2 and the froncourt players at least 6'5. China I believe boat of a line-up that has no player standing 6'3 below. Add to that a frontline standing at leat 6'7 not to mention the couple of 7 footers.

 

Nevertheless, while height is might, its not the only factor. Surely we have this problem as one of our weakness but it is really up to the coaching staff to find ways on how to offset this.

Edited August 25, 2009 by peithe

[buffalosoljah]

Which popped in my mind. Could the PBA atleast accept Smart Gilas as a temporary PBA team? Yun na lang cguro conswelo natin for them opting not to lend players to the National team.

 

Boss:

 

if you let them play in the PBA, they would develop PBA-brand habits (reliance on one-on-one, too much dribbling, little ball movements, too much post-ups), which would be detrimental to their development in terms of international play. They should join the Euro League or something. Or just follow the Iran/China teams around. If the Iran/China teams play in a given tournament, sali den tayo. Mukha tayong saling-pusa but there's no better way to get better than playing with the right type of competition.

[kanski]

^

 

tama nga naman.

 

joining pba = developing pba habits = poor int'l showing

[djlo]

on my standpoint let them join the PBA to set example on current pba teams on how to pass and not to dribble dat much.....plus its experience pa rin naman...........but dapat they have to compete as much as possible intl tourney....

[bill_262003]

on my standpoint let them join the PBA to set example on current pba teams on how to pass and not to dribble dat much.....plus its experience pa rin naman...........but dapat they have to compete as much as possible intl tourney....

 

Letting them join in the PBA is the least expensive of all options. Of course, ideally, letting them join in as much international tournaments is the best way to gain experience. But it is also the most expensive. Not to mention, it could also shatter some confidence of the young players if they join immediately in tournaments just to end up losing all the time. Take note, young players. If they are seasoned players then their confidence is more or less already established and they already know what they can do.

 

Letting them join the PBA the least expensive option if PBA dedicates one conference to full FIBA rules.

[peithe]

Boss:

 

if you let them play in the PBA, they would develop PBA-brand habits (reliance on one-on-one, too much dribbling, little ball movements, too much post-ups), which would be detrimental to their development in terms of international play. They should join the Euro League or something. Or just follow the Iran/China teams around. If the Iran/China teams play in a given tournament, sali den tayo. Mukha tayong saling-pusa but there's no better way to get better than playing with the right type of competition.

 

 

Wel that would be the case if coach RAJO will adapt the PBA style of play ... however, the Gilas Team can actually play the system they intend to develop while playing in the PBA.

 

NCC joined and won a conference in the PBA, I don't think they adopted to the PBA system of 1 on 1 plays then. On the positive note this is an inexpensive way to build teamwork in a competitive scenario.

[robo_cop]

Bakit ang china, iran at ibang middle east countries may professional league ba? pero bakit sila ang nagchachampion?

Hindi kaya masyado lang mataas ang tingin ng mga pilipino sa PBA dahil "professional"

[djlo]

Letting them join in the PBA is the least expensive of all options. Of course, ideally, letting them join in as much international tournaments is the best way to gain experience. But it is also the most expensive. Not to mention, it could also shatter some confidence of the young players if they join immediately in tournaments just to end up losing all the time. Take note, young players. If they are seasoned players then their confidence is more or less already established and they already know what they can do.

 

Letting them join the PBA the least expensive option if PBA dedicates one conference to full FIBA rules.

 

 

having a seat in world basketbal tournament= PRICELESS, landing a spot on olympics= PRICELESS... for playing other asian countries and gaining expereince ders MASTERCARD.............

[genesisTamerlane]

Bakit ang china, iran at ibang middle east countries may professional league ba? pero bakit sila ang nagchachampion?

Hindi kaya masyado lang mataas ang tingin ng mga pilipino sa PBA dahil "professional"

 

ang alam ko ang china meron din silang league

[peithe]

Bakit ang china, iran at ibang middle east countries may professional league ba? pero bakit sila ang nagchachampion?

Hindi kaya masyado lang mataas ang tingin ng mga pilipino sa PBA dahil "professional"

 

China has their "professional league" called the CBA. They also have the CBL which is a division 2 "minor league" which can be parallel to our PBL.

 

Iran has the Iranian Basketball Super League.

 

 

I guess the way to view your query is that it is no longer a distinction whether a league is deemed as professional or amature specially with the advent of OPEN BASKETBALL. Before kasi, pros can not represent their country in international competition thus they try to maintain their amature status kahit na binabayaran din ang mga players. Ofcourse they use different terminologies for the money received calling it an allowance instead of salary.

[skitz]

Good intention, but bad idea.

 

The BEST athletes will still gravitate towards whatever sport/league that will pay them the most. And players are on a very strict timeline. They have a an expiration date.

 

Just re-invent the PBA, to accomodate the current realities of basketball in Asia (and the current rut the PBA is on). Being "nationalistic" is what will save the PBA!