Hardprotina Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 the gilas program should continue. we saw the results of years of training by landing 4th in wuhan. i know the rest of asia has been watching the philippines of late. sinubukan pa tayong dayain when lassiter and lutz were not allowed to play in the first two games...then the switch in schedule from 1:00 pm to 6:00 pm. but with the proper program, right players (dedication included), exposure and funding, the philippines can reach greater heights. we can just hope and pray that bigwig sponsors like MVP and danding can set aside personal interests for the sake of flag and country. I totally agree! We should have a separate National team hindi yung they will only build when there's tournament. A Permanent National Team is the answer. Quote Link to comment
rafael77 Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 true enough pangilinan is not a coach. bad assesment.i think its our point guards (casio and alapag) and their speed along with douthit who carried us through. daghles height never became an advantage as a point guard for jordan. sun yue is, but its not because of his height but because he is really talented. alapag made us look like a cohesive team kahit last minute naform yung final line-up of our team. sounds like a broken record but reliable shooters are what we need. and a reliable reliever for douthit. possibly thoss or slaughter. i don't really understand why taulava is there. throughout the tournament he looked like fumbling giant. or a comic relief to douthit. we also need the likes of baguio or tubid (although i hope we can find somebody taller) in the number 2 position. genuine slashers. although i observed tiu despite his size did well. especially defensively he is really a surprise. I've never seen him as physical and as magulang than in this league. in the power forward position i think ranidel deocampo did well. though he didn't became an outside threat in the league, but i really think he is capably our shooter supposedly at the same time he has inside game. we need tall power forwards in the real sense of the word. POWER forward. i didn't really understand yung pag babad ke williams. i don't really know why, he is strong, fast, high leaper, but very unreliable. how many times have you seen him bungle a lay-up? and miss free throws. we also need reliable medium range players who are tall, like an art dela cruz. and lastly, the bias on fil-ams. i really believe baracael is a better player than lassiter. he just lost his confidence because he became a rarely used reliever to lassiter. lutz? i can't really see what he brings to the team. muscle and defense maybe, but leaves much to be desired. and the coach? i agree with yeng guiao. toroman didn't bring anything new to the team. he's just well supported. far far far cry from ron jacobs who clearly has an evident contribution to the national team. bakit nag ba nobody is making a serious offer to jaworski to coach the national team? everybody questioned his selection then for the national team. particularly the inclusion of chit loyzaga and dante gonzalgo but come playtime we clearly see that he had a plan for the team. despite only 2 weeks preparation he got silver. MVP not giving up on Olympic basketball dream By June Navarro Philippine Daily Inquirer 9:39 pm | Monday, September 26th, 2011 159 share196 37 http://sports.inquirer.net/files/2011/09/talo27.jpgFibasia.net “I’m not a coach or a player but there are certain weaknesses that I saw in this tournament that we have to seriously look into,” said Pangilinan. “If you ask me, there should be changes with the players. It’s not a criticism on the players that we have now. They tried their best and I should thank them, especially those on the program for three years and those from the PBA who made the sacrifice.” Team captain Chris Tiu, JV Casio, Mark Barroca, Mac Baracael, Japeth Aguilar, Dylan Ababou and Jason Ballesteros have been with Smart Gilas since the Olympic drive began late 2008. “I think our point guards are small,” said Pangilinan. “Not to say that our point guards are not good, but I believe that we need bigger point guards.” Jordan has the 6-foot-5 Osama Daghles while 6-3 Liu Wei and 6-7 Sun Yue, a former Los Angeles Laker, run the backcourt for China. Quote Link to comment
photographer Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 (edited) I totally agree! We should have a separate National team hindi yung they will only build when there's tournament. A Permanent National Team is the answer. Bata pa ako dekada 70s ganito na ang ugali ng officials sa basketball natin. Kapag malapit na ang sasalinan tournament dun pa lang bubuo. Kudos to Manny Pangilinan, he tries to change this kind of system. Edited September 26, 2011 by photographer Quote Link to comment
ray004 Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 we should continue the program. retain toroman. we're getting there Quote Link to comment
Mr. Mister Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 A Separate and permanent national Team! Country first before personal gain or company profit or financial considerations! Quote Link to comment
photographer Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Buti na lang may Manny Pangilinan Quote Link to comment
TERRENCE34 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 You know why it hurts so much? Coz we know kaya natin manalo. Kinapos lang talaga tayo sa talents particularly on the shooters. 8 amateur players were on the team and yet we made it to the final 4. If we sent the best players we have and have them prepared 3 years ago, I believe we could've been the Champion right now. As early as now, we should prepare for the FIBA Asia Cup 2013. Quote Link to comment
photographer Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 You know why it hurts so much? Coz we know kaya natin manalo. Kinapos lang talaga tayo sa talents particularly on the shooters. 8 amateur players were on the team and yet we made it to the final 4. If we sent the best players we have and have them prepared 3 years ago, I believe we could've been the Champion right now. As early as now, we should prepare for the FIBA Asia Cup 2013. There's this problem with the "best players" mas lalo nasa PBA. Nag iingat na ang "best player" at baka mapilayan siya, tapos na ang career and multi million contract with his mother team. Playing basketball here in the country means playing for personal money. Wala na yung nationalism, nationalism. But I am not saying lahat sila. With the likes of Taulava, Williams, Alapag, iba ang breed ng mga ito. And that also goes to the rest of the Gilas team. Dont know kung ganyan pa attitude nuong iba in case makatikim na ng millions sa kani kanilang PBA teams. Quote Link to comment
junix Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 A Separate and permanent national Team! Country first before personal gain or company profit or financial considerations! I agree but i think this is easier said than done because of the allure of the PBA. Though, i believe that if bigtime sponsors like MVP will continue to bankroll the expenses of gilas like salaries, training and exposure in international competitions, meron pa naman sigurong mga players dedicated to play for flag and country. Quote Link to comment
thegame08 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 (edited) kaya tayo natatalo sa asian at fiba...alam mo nyo kung bakit? dahil kay asi taulava...sya ang malas sa team...pekeng pinoy at may balat pa sa pwet... sana mawala na ang hayop na yan....pls lang wag ka na sumali pa.... taga samar leyte kuno'..pareho sila nina rob parker,al segova, sonny alvarado, dorian pena....sino promotor? si congressman daza ng leyte... Peke man o walang talagang lahing Pinot you got to cut him some slack man, as whenever the national team would call Asi is there to heed the call.. the gilas program should continue. we saw the results of years of training by landing 4th in wuhan. i know the rest of asia has been watching the philippines of late. sinubukan pa tayong dayain when lassiter and lutz were not allowed to play in the first two games...then the switch in schedule from 1:00 pm to 6:00 pm. but with the proper program, right players (dedication included), exposure and funding, the philippines can reach greater heights. we can just hope and pray that bigwig sponsors like MVP and danding can set aside personal interests for the sake of flag and country. I totally agree! We should have a separate National team hindi yung they will only build when there's tournament. A Permanent National Team is the answer. Bata pa ako dekada 70s ganito na ang ugali ng officials sa basketball natin. Kapag malapit na ang sasalinan tournament dun pa lang bubuo. Kudos to Manny Pangilinan, he tries to change this kind of system. Madami pang kaartehan dati noong PBA players na ang ipinapadala, I remember noong 2002 dalawang national teams pa ang binuo ng PBA then from there doon sila pumili ng isasama sa final line-up, come on! we should continue the program. retain toroman. we're getting there Agree. Edited September 27, 2011 by thegame08 Quote Link to comment
djlo Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 maraming salamat PILIPINAS SMART GILAS for bringing back the pride in philippine basketball.....you made me (at least) believe again na contender ang bansa natin when it comes sa larangan ng basketbol... Quote Link to comment
the_passerby5981 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Another heartbreak... But as they say... ...that which doesn't k*ll yah... Up next:2013 FIBA Asia Championships Quote Link to comment
blow_gobi Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 (edited) Parang nakakahinayang yung 3 years of preparation and financial investment, tapos kakapusin when in fact the goal was to get the Olympic slot. Maybe it's a tall order, pero sana nakapasok kahit man lang sa finals. Kaya naman eh, pero parang may kulang pa rin. Amazingly, MVP doesn't seem to be giving up, para ngang na-challenge. He said the Olympic dream is still alive, in the meantime focus muna sa 2013 FIBA Championship. Sana hindi lang ito press release. Pero I think MVP is dead serious. It happened to Ateneo before, a winning team with talented players but falling short of becoming a champion (except in '02) until after 8 years of patience, hard work and believing. Toroman is a good coach, but in a few years he'd be already too old with archaic coaching style. I think he was outcoached by Jordan's American coach who effectively used zone and triple-teamed Douthit on the defense, and had well-positioned shooters on the offense. Toroman couldn't solve Jordan's defense. So moving forward, Toroman has to be eventually replaced. But let's see first how the team performs for the qualfying slot in the 2013 FIBA Championship. Para siyang si Joe Lipa, a brilliant coach (4-time national coach who gave UP its only championship and started the winning run of Ateneo in 1999) who eventually went out of style and became irrelevant. Edited September 27, 2011 by blow_gobi 1 Quote Link to comment
StraightEdge Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 goodluck sa 2013 fiba asia Quote Link to comment
kenichi15 Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 nice points of view from basketball afficionados here. this is rejoinder from the previous post i made. now that there is a confirmation of support from MVP. id like to see coach rajko back on the bench and please give the dude a free hand on our team. because:1. his system works. a nightmare of a match up for other coaches.2. the players respect him. feisty. upfront. but gets the job done.3. hes internationally well known and respected in the international basketball scene. that alone adds respect to our team. 4. we have learned from this man precious insights on how the fiba system works. on how a team should be run on a national scale. just anothr of my two cents fellas. Quote Link to comment
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