QuadCore Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 you are still legally married to your wife so if you will marry your gf then you are liable for bigamy, although the trial courts here in philippines cannot prosecute the same for lack of jurisdiction. the bigger question is if you can marry your gf since you will be required to produce proof that you are still single. my advice to you is to have your marriage annulled here first. thank you very much po. Quote Link to comment
wildirk Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 dear atty.: nagpakasal po kami sa civil ng una kong asawa last 2000 (bulacan), dahil sa nabuntis ko sya, me work na sya that time at ako naman e 4th year college pa, i was 22 then..after 1 year, 2001, nagkahiwalay kami at nagkaron ako ng ibang gf..nakalagay sa mga documents nya na married na sya pero ako di ko idiniclare that time..after 4 years, nagpakasal kami ng gf ko (2005) sa civil din (manila city hall), at dun ko nilagay un status ko sa mga documents ko with my second wife at nakakuha pa kami ng authenticated na certificate from NSO. After a year(2006), nagpakasal din un una kong asawa sa bulacan din, but still ang ginagamit nya surname e surname ko. nagkaron sya ng dalawang anak dun sa bago nya asawa. ako naman, unfortunately e di nagkaron ng anak..this year, naghiwalay na rin kami ng pangalawa kong asawa...ngaun po, gusto ko pong magpa-annul, ano po ang gagawin ko? Unahin ko po muna na ma annul un una kong marriage, then pa declare kong null and void un 2nd marriage ko? please advise sir, your help is much appreciated. thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment
rocco69 Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 pa-declare mo munang null and void yung pangalawang kasal mo. tapos nun, file ka ng kaso para ipa-walang-bisa yung una mong kasal. actually, pwede rin yung gusto mo, pero mas orderly yung unahin mo ang 2nd bago yung 1st. dear atty.: nagpakasal po kami sa civil ng una kong asawa last 2000 (bulacan), dahil sa nabuntis ko sya, me work na sya that time at ako naman e 4th year college pa, i was 22 then..after 1 year, 2001, nagkahiwalay kami at nagkaron ako ng ibang gf..nakalagay sa mga documents nya na married na sya pero ako di ko idiniclare that time..after 4 years, nagpakasal kami ng gf ko (2005) sa civil din (manila city hall), at dun ko nilagay un status ko sa mga documents ko with my second wife at nakakuha pa kami ng authenticated na certificate from NSO. After a year(2006), nagpakasal din un una kong asawa sa bulacan din, but still ang ginagamit nya surname e surname ko. nagkaron sya ng dalawang anak dun sa bago nya asawa. ako naman, unfortunately e di nagkaron ng anak..this year, naghiwalay na rin kami ng pangalawa kong asawa...ngaun po, gusto ko pong magpa-annul, ano po ang gagawin ko? Unahin ko po muna na ma annul un una kong marriage, then pa declare kong null and void un 2nd marriage ko? please advise sir, your help is much appreciated. thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment
sniper69 Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 Simply put: Legal separation- severs the marital ties or obligation of the parties to each other without severing the marriage. In effect, parties still married but not obligated to perform marital duties as husband and wife anymore. Annulment- declares as null and void or annuls a void/voidable (defective) marriage. Divorce- annuls a perfectly valid marriage. After the petition is granted, the petitioner must first wait for the certificate of finality and have it registered with the NSO before entering into another marriage. Child/children of annulled marriages still considered legitimate. thanks sir. more power. Quote Link to comment
Gwen Morales Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 I have a question and this is for a friend. They were married for like 17 years. There were marriage ceremony happened, complete with everything, a church ceremony infact. Happened, they did not have it filed. Now, the husband married another girl. Question : 1. is the marriage void even a real ceremony happened (with all pictures and witnesses?)2. is the children (five children!) legitimate and need to carry their father's name?3. is the second marriage even legal?4. is the wife can marry again to a different guy with no hassle? Thanks for all who's gonna answer. 1 Quote Link to comment
MERCER Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 Child/children of annulled marriages still considered legitimate. please confirm:-does this mean that the kids would still have to bear their biological father's surname?-is there no other way to have this changed and have the kids bear the mother's maiden name? thanks Quote Link to comment
rocco69 Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 1. is the marriage void even a real ceremony happened (with all pictures and witnesses?) if the marriage took place, it is VALID even if it was not registered. altho i doubt that there is no record of their marriage. with five children, they would have been required at some point to produce a marriage certificate (baptism, school, etc.). best to check with the NSO whether there is no record of their marriage. 2. is the children (five children!) legitimate and need to carry their father's name? assuming there is no defect with the marriage (other than no registration), the 5 children are legitimate. they must use the surname listed in their Certificates of Live Birth (they should be using the surname of their father in their birth certificates), as that is their official surname. 3. is the second marriage even legal? since the 1st marriage is valid, the 2nd one is VOID. 4. is the wife can marry again to a different guy with no hassle? no, there might be problems if she does so.. she should file a case to have the 1st marriage declared null and void from the beginning. as i said earlier, she should first check with the NSO and the Civil Registrar of the place where she got married to see whether there is no record of the marriage (note that it is the duty of the priest – not of the persons getting married – to register the marriage with the Civil Registrar). if there is a record, she really has to file a petition to have her marriage declared null and void. if there really is no record... I have a question and this is for a friend. They were married for like 17 years. There were marriage ceremony happened, complete with everything, a church ceremony infact. Happened, they did not have it filed. Now, the husband married another girl. Question : 1. is the marriage void even a real ceremony happened (with all pictures and witnesses?)2. is the children (five children!) legitimate and need to carry their father's name?3. is the second marriage even legal?4. is the wife can marry again to a different guy with no hassle? Thanks for all who's gonna answer. Quote Link to comment
rocco69 Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 1. does this mean that the kids would still have to bear their biological father's surname? Yes, as they are legitimate children, they have the right to bear their father's surname (see Art. 364 and 369, Civil Code). Note, also, that a person's official name is the name listed in their birth certificate. If their surname, as listed in the birth certificate, is that of their father, then they have to use that. 2. is there no other way to have this changed and have the kids bear the mother's maiden name? Unfortunately, no. As they are legitimate children of the father, they have to use the surname of the father. Allowing the children to change their surname to that of their mother would confuse people and make them think that the children are illegitimate, which is why that kind of change is disallowed by law. Child/children of annulled marriages still considered legitimate. please confirm:-does this mean that the kids would still have to bear their biological father's surname?-is there no other way to have this changed and have the kids bear the mother's maiden name? thanks Quote Link to comment
~~gwa7~~ Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 good day po... ask ko lang po how much and annulment case at this time? im separated for almost 3 yrs now and planning to file for the purpose of my family and frends is planning to have a big business... any advice..thanks Quote Link to comment
batman2272 Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 good day po... ask ko lang po how much and annulment case at this time? im separated for almost 3 yrs now and planning to file for the purpose of my family and frends is planning to have a big business... any advice..thanks150k,sure na yun. Quote Link to comment
~~gwa7~~ Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 150k,sure na yun. u mean sure ung case? thanks Quote Link to comment
13cent Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 backread and i saw the answers, thanks po... so i would be spending 150-200k and the process takes around 6-8months, malabo yata na ako re-marrying again, hehehehehe but if i marry abroad, will that be legal here?? thanks sa sasagot!! pero both filipino citizens kami??? Yes. Generally, all marriages solemnized outside of the Philippines, in accordance with the laws in force in the country where they were solemnized, shall also be valid here in the Philippines, except those mentioned under Arts. 35 (1), (4), (5) and (6), Arts 36, 37 and 38 of the Family Code. Quote Link to comment
TanglewoodBoy Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Yes. Generally, all marriages solemnized outside of the Philippines, in accordance with the laws in force in the country where they were solemnized, shall also be valid here in the Philippines, except those mentioned under Arts. 35 (1), (4), (5) and (6), Arts 36, 37 and 38 of the Family Code.Thanks so much sir, anyways, para binding din yung new relationship ko if ever i would find someone again... but what are those ARTICLES you mentioned?? what kind of problems i may have regarding this??? Quote Link to comment
DenonE Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Sir, Pwede ba mag file ng annulment ang isang tao kahit nasa ibang bansa siya? Wedding took place in PH, girl is in Pasay separated for 15 yrs na. Whats the procedure for this? Power of Atty?Kahit walang appearance ng both parties pwede kaya yun? Salamat po Quote Link to comment
rocco69 Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 pwede mag-file ng annulment kahit nasa ibang bansa ang petitioner, pero kailangan na ang petition ay pirmado niya at susumpaan niya sa harap ng consular o embassy officials ng Pilipinas sa bansa kung nasaan siya (tingnan ang Section 5[3] ng Rule on Declaration of Nullity of Marriage). kailangan di na mag-appear siya sa pre-trial ng kaso, kung hindi ay baka madismiss ang kaso (tingnan ang Section 11[2b] at Section 13 ng nasabing Rule). may mga abugado(?) na magsasabi na kaya nilang maghain ng kaso na di na haharap sa korte ang nagkaso (non-appearance kumbaga). hindi ko masabi kung ito ay pwede o hindi. ang masasabi ko lang, may hokus-pokus sa ganitong klaseng sistema. baka sa huli ay mas lalo ka lang mapasama. ang aking payo... dumaan sa tamang proseso para di magsisis sa huli. nagkamali ka na nga sa pagpapakasal sa asawa mo, wag nang dagdagan pa ng ibang sakit sa ulo. magtanong-tanong ka sa kamag-anak o di-kaya sa kaibigan kung meron silang mairerekomenda na kakilala at pinagkakatiwalaang abugado. hope this helps. Sir, Pwede ba mag file ng annulment ang isang tao kahit nasa ibang bansa siya? Wedding took place in PH, girl is in Pasay separated for 15 yrs na. Whats the procedure for this? Power of Atty?Kahit walang appearance ng both parties pwede kaya yun? Salamat po Quote Link to comment
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