Admu Vs. Dlsu

[wizard23]

oo alam naming matalino kami.

 

 

oo nga pati si erap? hehe. anyway baka ma OT na. anyway, congrats na lang to ateneo for being the better team this season.

[wackyracer]

Is Beth Celis credible?

 

I have an Atenean friend who said that Rabeh was influenced by Carlos Sharma (his half-bro) to choose Ateneo over La Salle.. But this article by Celis clearly contradicts that tsismis.. Anyone from Ateneo care to dispute what was written here..

 

Ateneo has been very proud of their tradition that you won't get accepted even though you are a super basketball athlete if you have sub-par grades.. Kumbaga walang lugar ang mahina ang ulo sa kanilang school.. Now this?

 

La Salle has been condemned to burn in hell for accepting athletes who have low intelligence, right? Ganun ang tingin sa eskwelahan namin, diba? Ateneo is considered to be very superior academically di ba? But what gives with this Rabeh thing.. Ano ito biglang tumalino si Rabeh at pinasa niya entrance exam sa Ateneo? Or how about Ateneo overlooking Rabeh's PCU grades? Is Ateneo downgrading their policies just to win basketball games? And DLSU upgrading their academic policies? I wonder..

 

Beth Celis is the sports page's resident Lolit Solis and a known dlsu supporter. It would be prudent to harbor some reservations on what she says.

 

The "tsismis" that former Green Archer Carlo Sharma influenced kid brother Rabeh really happened. Sharma of the 2001 dlsu champion team had a falling out with the coaching staff due to the 2002 defeat to arch-rival Ateneo. The debacle was blamed on Mike Cortez for game-fixing as well as Willie Wilson and Carlo Sharma for not playing their hearts out with hints of game-fixing as well. From what I decipher from interviews with Sharma, it seems his stay in dlsu focused mainly on basketball and that his studies were neglected.

Life after dlsu basketball it turned out, was not that easy for him. His initial foray into professional basketball was not very successful and he was always on the verge of getting cut out from the team (his bread and butter). Good thing his game has improved as of late and the future seems a bit more secure for this former Green Archer. My guess is, he got to see for himself the difference between the dlsu players and their rivals from Katipunan who all graduated and had something to fall back on after college ball.

 

It is hard to comment on Celis' tsismis. What I can say is, it is not uncommon for a student to improve through time. I know of one Ateneo student who was not so spectacular in high school and after graduation went to Wharton and graduated summa cum laude. Kahit yung mga high school classmates niya nagulat. Hindi lang naman high school grades ang basis for admission to Ateneo as Defiant points out. Ang sigurado ko once in the Ateneo, the grade requirements are strictly enforced kahit athlete ka pa. Some promising athletes in the recent past have been admitted but subsequently had to transfer because of academics, ballers like ex-Sta. Lucia guard Ronnie Bughao and newly-drafted Chito Jaime. The more substantial question should be, gruma-graduate ba naman ang mga college ballers niyo o puro basketball lang ang inaatupag?

Kumusta si Limpot, Cardel, Jonas Mariano, Allado, Cardona, Cortez, Benitez, Gatchalian?

[wackyracer]

I'm sorry, forgot to include my source for the Rabeh-Sharma comment, mas maganda pagkasulat nito:

 

 

A Tale of Two Brothers

words by rick olivares

 

Hours before tip-off for Game 2 of the championship for the 2008 Universities Athletic Association of the Philippines Men’s Basketball Tournament, the Araneta Coliseum was already jammed to the bleachers. Not only did people arrive early to get the good seats but they also wanted to be on hand for the awards ceremony where the Ateneo De Manila Blue Eagles almost made it a clean sweep of the individual awards.

 

When Rabeh Al-Hussaini, Ateneo’s starting center was handed trophies for being voted as the league’s Most Improved and Most Valuable Player (he also bagged a spot on the Mythical Five), lost in the adulation of the Ateneo gallery that nearly filled the entire coliseum was one man.

 

On the court, he is an imposing figure at six-foot-six. His lean chiseled body and the tattoos that adorn his arm make add to that fearsome reputation. But more so now since he’s got game to back up that menacing scowl.

 

Carlo Sharma, in a white shirt and baggy khaki shorts stood beside former collegiate foes and current Red Bull teammates Rich Alvarez and Magnum Membrere in the patron section. The look on Sharma’s face was a mixture of pride and glee. He clapped his hands vociferously. When Al-Hussaini, his half and younger brother, made his way to the dugout to prepare for their match against La Salle, Sharma pointed to his brother who returned the gesture which is a sign of recognition and respect.

 

It was four years ago when he steered his Rabeh to his school’s archrival; a decision Sharma never regretted. Rabeh showed plenty of promise as a player for the Philippine Christian University Baby Dolphins and was heavily recruited by all the major college basketball programs including La Salle. But Sharma’s falling out with his school’s coaching staff and the hardship of latching on to a pro team in an increasingly competitive PBA landscape made the decision an easy one. “Kung basketball ang pagpipilian dalawa lang naman ang choice mo. Pero kung sa basketball at sa pag-aaral, alam mo naman kung saan ang tama para sa ‘yo, ‘di ba?”

 

Having said that, Sharma wishes he had an older brother to advise him during his formative years to steer him in the right direction. But who knew, right?

 

Incredibly, basketball wasn’t Carlo’s first sport as a youngster. “Chess,” he laughed at the incredulity of the notion. “Talaga.”

 

Being the tallest student at Paco Catholic School, he was forced to play for his school’s basketball team as a high school senior. “Pinilit ako pero tama lang yun kasi naging maganda yung bunga ng basketball para sa akin.”

 

Once he learned the sport, Sharma despite being a late bloomer soaked in everything about hoops. He even patterned his game after then-Portland Trailblazer Rasheed Wallace (take note even the tattoos on Carlo’s arm).

 

Rabeh, a good eight years younger gravitated to basketball at an earlier age but nonetheless idolized his older brother who led the Green Archers to a 2001 triumph over Ateneo.

 

The two are close even with the disparity in age. “Lagi ko siya tinatawagan,” says Rabeh who credits Carlo along with Norman Black (as well as his teammates) for the quantum improvement in his game.

 

“Kung napansin mo nung mga first years niya sa Ateneo, laging mainitin yung ulo niya,” noted Sharma who remembered feeling alarmed about his brother’s temper. “Kahit hindi siya kasama sa eksena nandun siya para mag-defend ng teammate o kung saan yung may away.”

 

Sharma took aside Al-Hussaini and gave him some advice that imprinted itself on his younger brother’s mind. “Huwag mo ako gagayahin sa mga pagkakamali ko,” urged Carlo. The former enforcer of the Green Archers laid it out the realities for his younger brother if he didn’t make good on his studies and if he didn’t work harder on his game.

 

Norman Black, Al-Hussaini’s coach with the Blue Eagles said that Rabeh’s skills and potential to be a big-time player was always there. “He just needed to realize it and to change his attitude. Once he came to that realization, the game became easy for him.”

 

Carlo also noted that this season, with better focus and an understanding of hoops, Rabeh has raised his game by leaps and bounds because he no longer allows others to exploit his short fuse. “Ikaw na ngayon mapipikon sa kanya.”

 

Sharma too had an epiphany of sorts after riding the bench in the PBL with ICTSI and with Shell and Coca Cola in the PBA. “Akala ko tapos na yung career ko kahit halos hindi pa nagsisimula. Nagisip ako talaga kung ano yung gagawin ko kung tuluyan ma-cut sa PBA.”

 

In Red Bull where Sharma has gained a new lease on life in his pro basketball career, he found himself teammates with a number of old college foes like Ateneans Alvarez, Membrere, Enrico Villanueva, Larry Fonacier, and Paolo Bugia and Cyrus Baguio of the University of Santo Tomas Growling Tigers. Far removed from his hell-raiser days with the Green Archers, Sharma became a locker room favorite for his wittiness and presence. “Carlo Sharma is one loud boy,” laughed Alvarez when asked to describe his teammate. “Never a dull moment.” That trust bequeathed on him (and his teammates) by Barako Coach Yeng Guiao saw the power forward-center become a dependable and regular part of the rotation where he was a candidate for last year’s Most Improved Player.

 

Although Al-Hussaini is unable to watch most of Sharma’s games in the PBA because the Blue Eagles practice in the early evening, he makes it a point to catch Red Bull’s matches on television. If not, he calls his brother for a recap and to ask how he did.

 

Sharma on the other hand, tries to watch Rabeh when permissible. It isn’t unusual to find him seated beside his former college rivals during UAAP games where he normally wears white. But he makes it a point to cheer his brother on even if it’s La Salle that Ateneo plays. “Hindi na tinatanong yun,” explained Carlo. “Kapatid ko siya.”

 

After Rabeh brought home a number of individual awards and helped Ateneo win its fourth UAAP Men’s Basketball Championship with a two-game sweep of La Salle, Sharma kidded his brother to spot for lunch or dinner. “Ha? Ikaw yung may trabaho diyan hindi ako,” parried Al-Hussaini.

 

“Kuripot,” jokingly rebutted the beaming older brother. The brothers now have led their respective schools to a UAAP title.

 

As youngsters, the two played ball at home whenever they could. Sharma because of the age and height difference used to beat Rabeh regularly in friendly games of one-on-one.

 

But when asked if they have yet to match up on the court now, Sharma has the last word: “Hindi na. Baka talunin na ako.”

[xxio]

I do find it strange that 6 years ago Rabeh went to the HS department? HS transferee I guess.

 

Pag HS transferee may 1 year residency pa ba?

 

If anything the article just drives the knife deeper into DLSU hearts....what could've been. Imagine Rabeh instead of Walsham at center freeing up Rico to play the wing and not worry about defense.....sayang talaga.

Edited September 29, 2008 by xxio

[wackyracer]

Edited September 29, 2008 by wackyracer

[Defiant]

oo nga pati si erap? hehe. anyway baka ma OT na. anyway, congrats na lang to ateneo for being the better team this season.

Yeah.... But we got rid of that sucker when he was in high school. We get rid of bad apples early.

 

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Salamat Salamat... Wish your team a graceful comeback next season... comeback to the season lang though.... I'm wishing Ateneo a repeat.

Edited September 29, 2008 by Defiant

[Defiant]

If anything the article just drives the knife deeper into DLSU hearts....what could've been. Imagine Rabeh instead of Walsham at center freeing up Rico to play the wing and not worry about defense.....sayang talaga.

You know... That's scary.

[barrysaint]

BONFIRE MAMAYA!!!!!

 

3 TITLES FOR ADMU!!!!

 

3 FIGHTS AND A FIGHT FIGHT BLUE AND WHITE!!!!!

 

BLUE EAGLE THE KING!!!!!!

 

SEE YOU THERE!!!!!!

[howarddeduct]

Welcome ba kami ni Pareng Erap sa bonfire?

[Defiant]

^^^ Bakit hindi... Eh kung may kilala nga akong La Sallista na pupunta eh.

 

Kaso mukha yatang basa tayo mamaya ah. Lakas ng Ulan 4:30pm na... Bellarmine is gonna get hella muddy.

Edited September 30, 2008 by Defiant

[webslinger]

hay salamat nag champ din. tagal nito ah.... anyway congrats sa ateneo.... bawi n lng dlsu....

[revi]

oo alam naming matalino kami.

 

Wow! "Alam namin na matalino kami!" What arrogance! Is this the Ateneo way? Or is this just self confidence boosting? I hopt its the latter.. Coz if its the former, feeling superior in intelligence as compared to others is just plain un-Atenean.. Or maybe this is the Ateneo way..

[revi]

It is hard to comment on Celis' tsismis. What I can say is, it is not uncommon for a student to improve through time. I know of one Ateneo student who was not so spectacular in high school and after graduation went to Wharton and graduated summa cum laude. Kahit yung mga high school classmates niya nagulat. Hindi lang naman high school grades ang basis for admission to Ateneo as Defiant points out. Ang sigurado ko once in the Ateneo, the grade requirements are strictly enforced kahit athlete ka pa. Some promising athletes in the recent past have been admitted but subsequently had to transfer because of academics, ballers like ex-Sta. Lucia guard Ronnie Bughao and newly-drafted Chito Jaime. The more substantial question should be, gruma-graduate ba naman ang mga college ballers niyo o puro basketball lang ang inaatupag? Kumusta si Limpot, Cardel, Jonas Mariano, Allado, Cardona, Cortez, Benitez, Gatchalian?

 

Who is questioning my school's policies when it comes to UAAP Basketball.. I never said that we don't accept "bobo" students but superior basketball athletes.. I never questioned your school's greatness when it comes to your so-called intelligence.. Sige na matatalino na kayo..

 

What I am questioning is Beth Celis' article.. Because even though La Sallista ako, I really like the system of Ateneo where a student should get good grades or else he will get reprimanded even though he is a basketball superstar.. Kaya nabigla ako sa article ni Celis..

 

You answered my question, and you stated that Celis is biased when it comes to DLSU.. Thank you for that..

 

But what I can't understand is your last question.. Do you really have to inject that in your post? I am merely questioning your school's academic system to your athletes baka kasi nagbago na.. Wizard23 and myself have stated that my school is known for being very lax when it comes to their athletes and I was only wondering what is Beth Celis thinking..

 

Sumobra pagiging defensive mo.. At naging "offensive" ka pa sa huling statement mo.. Well, is this the Ateneo way? I guess so.. hahahaha..

[orionpax]

 

Never heard such remark/s from any of my Atenean relatives, colleagues & friends...not even from true blue Atenean classmates enrolled in ADMU-GSB during my brief stay in the Dela Rosa campus, same for those who were enrolled in the DLSU-GSB program years back

 

But then again...there are exceptions

 

Wow! "Alam namin na matalino kami!" What arrogance! Is this the Ateneo way? Or is this just self confidence boosting? I hopt its the latter.. Coz if its the former, feeling superior in intelligence as compared to others is just plain un-Atenean.. Or maybe this is the Ateneo way..

Edited September 30, 2008 by orionpax

[wackyracer]

Who is questioning my school's policies when it comes to UAAP Basketball.. I never said that we don't accept "bobo" students but superior basketball athletes.. I never questioned your school's greatness when it comes to your so-called intelligence.. Sige na matatalino na kayo..

 

What I am questioning is Beth Celis' article.. Because even though La Sallista ako, I really like the system of Ateneo where a student should get good grades or else he will get reprimanded even though he is a basketball superstar.. Kaya nabigla ako sa article ni Celis..

 

You answered my question, and you stated that Celis is biased when it comes to DLSU.. Thank you for that..

 

But what I can't understand is your last question.. Do you really have to inject that in your post? I am merely questioning your school's academic system to your athletes baka kasi nagbago na.. Wizard23 and myself have stated that my school is known for being very lax when it comes to their athletes and I was only wondering what is Beth Celis thinking..

 

Sumobra pagiging defensive mo.. At naging "offensive" ka pa sa huling statement mo.. Well, is this the Ateneo way? I guess so.. hahahaha..

 

Firstly, I never insisted that we are more superior than your school or any other school. After games, I still stand up and face the opposition when they sing their alma mater song as a sign of respect.

 

The Celis article was done with malice intended. You got the innuendo crystal clear. Let's not pretend that you expounded on it purely for purposes of enlightenment.

I don't think you are that naive.

 

I think my last statement was a clever comeback and it did not veer away from the article's malicious insinuation of deteriorating academic standards. As the saying goes, don't throw stones if you're living in a glass house. Kung nasaktan kita, I'm sorry. You shouldn't have brought this thing up in the first place.