Overrated Nba/pba Players

[gift_of_game]

and to top it all off, the Celtics also had a healthy and reanimated Bill Walton coming off the bench in `86.

 

if the you put the best components of both three-peat teams though, they might have a shot.

Luc Longley, Bison Dele and Bill Cartwright at center, Rodman and Grant would provide the muscle/hustle at PF.

then you had Kukoc, Harper, Kerr, Armstrong and Paxson. it's still not a whole lot but the pieces should fit.

 

 

Moreover, the Celts of Bird had a tall frontline, arguably the best of all time. The Bulls would have a hard time matching up with their height. Pippen would find it difficult to say the least in defending Larry Legend. He'd post him up and shoot over him or shoot from way out. Pippen would just have to pick his poison. Rodman would be overpowered by Kevin Mchale and lastly the Chief is a much more superior center than Longley although the Celts wouldnt' have anyone to defend His Airness. Harper and Ainge would cancel each other out.

Edited May 22, 2009 by gift_of_game

[Guest megalodon]

and to top it all off, the Celtics also had a healthy and reanimated Bill Walton coming off the bench in `86.

 

if the you put the best components of both three-peat teams though, they might have a shot.

Luc Longley, Bison Dele and Bill Cartwright at center, Rodman and Grant would provide the muscle/hustle at PF.

then you had Kukoc, Harper, Kerr, Armstrong and Paxson. it's still not a whole lot but the pieces should fit.

Ok. Granted that the best components of both three-peat teams of the Bulls were in one team and Reggie Lewis and Len Bias didn't die, that theoretical Bulls team would still find it difficult to get past the theoretical Celtic team with Bias and Lewis. I don't know if you watched Len Bias games or agree with me that he was the Lebron James of that era but he was an athletic 6'8 forward with a pretty good range.

[gift_of_game]

saw the Bias clips on youtube, through prior TV features and some recent articles on him.

 

I wouldn't go so far as calling him as the LeBron of his time as there are differences (body type and playing style being the most obvious) but he would've been an all-star-type guy.

if I'd come with a comparison off the bat, I'd have him down as a more well-rounded/more complete version of Dominique Wilkins.

 

 

Ok. Granted that the best components of both three-peat teams of the Bulls were in one team and Reggie Lewis and Len Bias didn't die, that theoretical Bulls team would still find it difficult to get past the theoretical Celtic team with Bias and Lewis. I don't know if you watched Len Bias games or agree with me that he was the Lebron James of that era but he was an athletic 6'8 forward with a pretty good range.

[Guest megalodon]

saw the Bias clips on youtube, through prior TV features and some recent articles on him.

 

I wouldn't go so far as calling him as the LeBron of his time as there are differences (body type and playing style being the most obvious) but he would've been an all-star-type guy.

if I'd come with a comparison off the bat, I'd have him down as a more well-rounded/more complete version of Dominique Wilkins.

I compared him to Lebron James coz he was 6'8 and very athletic. Jordan would have had problems with him everytime they would have met. NBA experts were comparing Jordan and him when he was drafted by the Celts in 86.

[gift_of_game]

"body type"...LeBron James is built like a tank.

Bias was long, graceful and epitomized "wiry strength" (hence the MJ comparisons).

to me anyway, watching the highlights, the Nique comp seems fair enough.

Bill Simmons was thinking more of James Worthy.

 

but that's the thing, the ugliest thing about his death is that we'll never know how things would've turned out.

while we could say MJ would've/might've had a hard time vs. LB, LB could've/might've had a hard time vs. MJ.

 

I compared him to Lebron James coz he was 6'8 and very athletic. Jordan would have had problems with him everytime they would have met. NBA experts were comparing Jordan and him when he was drafted by the Celts in 86.

[protozoan]

while the match-up seem to favor the celtics, i would still say that the bulls will still manage to win the series because of phil jackson and his coaching staff, which includes tex winter. i they will be the better tactician and will be able to match the right players against the all star celtics

[Guest megalodon]

while the match-up seem to favor the celtics, i would still say that the bulls will still manage to win the series because of phil jackson and his coaching staff, which includes tex winter. i they will be the better tactician and will be able to match the right players against the all star celtics

Phil Jackson? Partly coz of Phil Jackson and his staff. You're forgetting the main ingredients. Jordan, Pippen, Kerr, Grant, etc.....

[JediMasterTebs]

other intagibles will play a big factor.. one, assuming that Len Bias would be an excellent player with the Celts(teaming up with Reggie Lewis) and of course the Celt supcast will be different at that time not Dino Raja, Dana Barros and the like.. two, haven't watched Len Bias play defense during his heyday in Maryland during the 80's(correct me if Im wrong though with Bias' Alma Mater) and honestly I forgot how good or terrible defensively the Celts are at that time.. three, the Bulls on the other hand have a very good bench at that time(any 3 peat era)..

[Sl@MDuNk_Mitsui14]

OT na ata usapan?...anyhow, IMHO, The most overrated player in the PBA is JAMES YAP...in the NBA, its a toss-up between KOBE BRYANT and STEVE NASH.

Edited May 27, 2009 by Sl@MDuNk_Mitsui14

[grail80]

OT na ata usapan?...anyhow, IMHO, The most overrated player in the PBA is JAMES YAP...in the NBA, its a toss-up between KOBE BRYANT and STEVE NASH.

 

 

Coming from the same guy who lists Larry Bird as a Power Forward. I'll just laugh hahahahaha!

[Sl@MDuNk_Mitsui14]

Coming from the same guy who lists Larry Bird as a Power Forward. I'll just laugh hahahahaha!

 

Let me guess..fan ka ni Kobe?...what a pity.. :sadsmiley02:

 

Anyhow, for the sake of argument, here are my reasons why I listed their names.

 

James Yap is nicknamed by Mr. Mico Halili as "The Man with a Million Moves"..wtf, for a player who moves slow on his feet when he drives to the basket and throws a one-handed, hand-gripped shot..the nickname is just too much for his calibre, much less winning the MVP plum a couple of years ago. and as an outside shooter? I can give you 5 names who is better than him when it comes to shooting the three-point shot and yet these players are not even considered as one of the best bball players in the PBA.

 

Kobe Bryant on the other hand, was a conceited SOB way back when the Lakers have been winning championships with him and Shaq in the frontline..openly saying that he was the leader of the team and the main reason why the lakers have won the championships, (kaya nga asar sa kanya si O'neil)..IMHO, Kobe is an ALL Star player, no doubt about it, but for him to be on the top 10 MVP candidates for the past few seasons (and have actually won the plum last year) is an overrating for him..IMO he's just the guy who throws too many shots (being a ball-hog) he averages 25-30 shots per ballgame and any good-enough player and a ball-hog like kobe can produce the same stats so long as they give that player 25-30 shots a ball game.

 

Steve Nash, is a good player, but for him to win back to back MVP's is again, an overrating, beating the likes of Dirk, Shaq and Lebron in the race. for most of his career, Steve Nash was an above average player, it was just when he moved back to the Suns that he was considered as one of the best players in the NBA, in fact he was already in his 30's when he won the MVP plum.

Edited May 27, 2009 by Sl@MDuNk_Mitsui14

[protozoan]

Phil Jackson? Partly coz of Phil Jackson and his staff. You're forgetting the main ingredients. Jordan, Pippen, Kerr, Grant, etc.....

 

hehe.. yes of course, sorry for missing a word there. as they say, its always the players who win the games

[H3nry0315]

Kobe Bryant...

[grail80]

Let me guess..fan ka ni Kobe?...what a pity.. :sadsmiley02:

 

Anyhow, for the sake of argument, here are my reasons why I listed their names.

 

James Yap is nicknamed by Mr. Mico Halili as "The Man with a Million Moves"..wtf, for a player who moves slow on his feet when he drives to the basket and throws a one-handed, hand-gripped shot..the nickname is just too much for his calibre, much less winning the MVP plum a couple of years ago. and as an outside shooter? I can give you 5 names who is better than him when it comes to shooting the three-point shot and yet these players are not even considered as one of the best bball players in the PBA.

 

Kobe Bryant on the other hand, was a conceited SOB way back when the Lakers have been winning championships with him and Shaq in the frontline..openly saying that he was the leader of the team and the main reason why the lakers have won the championships, (kaya nga asar sa kanya si O'neil)..IMHO, Kobe is an ALL Star player, no doubt about it, but for him to be on the top 10 MVP candidates for the past few seasons (and have actually won the plum last year) is an overrating for him..IMO he's just the guy who throws too many shots (being a ball-hog) he averages 25-30 shots per ballgame and any good-enough player and a ball-hog like kobe can produce the same stats so long as they give that player 25-30 shots a ball game.

 

Steve Nash, is a good player, but for him to win back to back MVP's is again, an overrating, beating the likes of Dirk, Shaq and Lebron in the race. for most of his career, Steve Nash was an above average player, it was just when he moved back to the Suns that he was considered as one of the best players in the NBA, in fact he was already in his 30's when he won the MVP plum.

 

 

Ok, overrated MVP. Good one! Nash became MVP because as the major addition to the Suns, he turned that team around from cellar dwellers to championship contenders (conference championships).

 

As for Kobe Bryant, he is overrated because he is conceited? LOL! Jerry West said it best after watching Kobe's tryouts after a few minutes: "He's better than anybody we have. Let's get going." That's overrated? Stop living in the past. Kobe took 30 shots per game like what, 3 years ago? And who would you give the ball to? Smush? Kwame? Considering that he was consistently going one vs 3 everytime down the floor, his FGM/A was still above average during those times which adjusted for degree of difficulty is actually exceptional. Overrated? Funny! Hahaha!

Edited May 27, 2009 by grail80

[Agent_mulder]

OT pero ang ilalagay ko overrated team: The Boston Celtics