Overrated Nba/pba Players

[grail80]

any player drafted number 2 overall will carry with him a lot of expectations.

 

Sports Illustrated ran an article on Sam Bowie already. They even admonished Portland that they should have drafted according to talent, not by need. But what do you need Jordan for, when they already had Clyde who before Jordan was the best in his position? Think about it, Portland couldn't win the championship because that era was dominated by the Celtics (who had Parish) and Lakers (who had Kareem). Why do you need another guard if you had one of the best already?

 

 

any player drafted number 2 overall will carry with him a lot of expectations.

 

Sports Illustrated ran an article on Sam Bowie already. They even admonished Portland that they should have drafted according to talent, not by need. But what do you need Jordan for, when they already had Clyde who before Jordan was the best in his position? Think about it, Portland couldn't win the championship because that era was dominated by the Celtics (who had Parish) and Lakers (who had Kareem). Why do you need another guard if you had one of the best already?

[Guest megalodon]

Sports Illustrated ran an article on Sam Bowie already. They even admonished Portland that they should have drafted according to talent, not by need. But what do you need Jordan for, when they already had Clyde who before Jordan was the best in his position? Think about it, Portland couldn't win the championship because that era was dominated by the Celtics (who had Parish) and Lakers (who had Kareem). Why do you need another guard if you had one of the best already?

 

 

 

Sports Illustrated ran an article on Sam Bowie already. They even admonished Portland that they should have drafted according to talent, not by need. But what do you need Jordan for, when they already had Clyde who before Jordan was the best in his position? Think about it, Portland couldn't win the championship because that era was dominated by the Celtics (who had Parish) and Lakers (who had Kareem). Why do you need another guard if you had one of the best already?

Simple, to win it all. in my opinion, the lakers would not have had 5 championships had the blazers drafted jordan.

[gift_of_game]

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but that's the thing---are you sure MJ would've become MJ while trying to fit next to Drexler?

no one knows this now with absolute certainty simply because it didn't happen. that's that.

in perfect Gumpian sense, the draft is a box of chocolates. it's an inexact science at best.

 

all your assertions that Jordan was going to be the GOAT or something pretty good regardless of the situation way even before it happened---well, not even the most ardent hoop insiders could commit to that back in the day. after all, Hakeem was taken first.

Portland was already loaded with talent on the wing---let's make this clear---this just wasn't about Drexler. you can look it up on wiki.

 

anyhow, more than not drafting Sam Bowie, the Blazers could've gotten competitive much earlier if they brought Sabonis in his prime.

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but that's the thing---are you sure MJ would've become MJ while trying to fit next to Drexler?

no one knows this now with absolute certainty simply because it didn't happen. that's that.

in perfect Gumpian sense, the draft is a box of chocolates. it's an inexact science at best.

 

all your assertions that Jordan was going to be the GOAT or something pretty good regardless of the situation way even before it happened---well, not even the most ardent hoop insiders could commit to that back in the day. after all, Hakeem was taken first.

Portland was already loaded with talent on the wing---let's make this clear---this just wasn't about Drexler. you can look it up on wiki.

 

anyhow, more than not drafting Sam Bowie, the Blazers could've gotten competitive much earlier if they brought Sabonis in his prime.

I never said Jordan was gonna be the goat. Theoretically speaking, Jordan would have still been the main man with Drexler being the second option. As for Sabonis, maybe they could have been more competitive had he gotten aboard earlier.

[denimhead]

.. hindsight being 20/20

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regardless, we don't know---for sure anyway---how that partnership would've gone.

naturally, they wouldn't give MJ free reign off the bat as a rookie as the Blazers were loaded on the wing.

 

if I'd make my own guess, he'd more likely take on a truncated version of the Kobe career path---provide the spark off the bench as a scoring 6th man early on and then ascend as a #2 once the team had better complementary pieces.

 

anyway, the "in theory part" is nice but the perfect storm was laid at MJ's feet and he made the most out of that situation.

he was in a big market city, he was the main guy on the team/face of the franchise and the powers of the East declined right around the time he hit his prime years.

 

 

 

 

I never said Jordan was gonna be the goat. Theoretically speaking, Jordan would have still been the main man with Drexler being the second option. As for Sabonis, maybe they could have been more competitive had he gotten aboard earlier.

Edited May 22, 2009 by gift_of_game

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regardless, we don't know---for sure anyway---how that partnership would've gone.

naturally, they wouldn't give MJ free reign off the bat as a rookie as the Blazers were loaded on the wing.

 

if I'd make my own guess, he'd more likely take on a truncated version of the Kobe career path---provide the spark off the bench as a scoring 6th man early on and then ascend as a #2 once the team had better complementary pieces.

 

anyway, the "in theory part" is nice but the perfect storm was laid at MJ's feet and he made the most out of that situation.

he was in a big market city, he was the main guy on the team/face of the franchise and the powers of the East declined right around the time he hit his prime years.

Ok point taken. Had Jordan been in his prime around the same time of Bird and Magic were in theirs and of course he had his team in the 90's, do you think he would have won all those championships?

[gift_of_game]

even if he had Pippen with him and a thug rebounder, I guess not.

LA, Boston and even Detroit just had better teams overall.

 

it all boils down to being in the right place at the right time.

 

 

Ok point taken. Had Jordan been in his prime around the same time of Bird and Magic were in theirs and of course he had his team in the 90's, do you think he would have won all those championships?

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even if he had Pippen with him and a thug rebounder, I guess not.

LA, Boston and even Detroit just had better teams overall.

 

it all boils down to being in the right place at the right time.

I concur.

[grail80]

even if he had Pippen with him and a thug rebounder, I guess not.

LA, Boston and even Detroit just had better teams overall.

 

it all boils down to being in the right place at the right time.

 

The 90s Bulls team could have won one or two, I think.

[dencio]

^^ IMO, the 72-10 Bulls team can beat any of those 3 quite convincingly in a 7-game series. They'd probably have the hardest time against the '85 or '87 Lakers but Pip will slow down Magic enough for Showtime to grind to a halt. Rodman on Abdul-Jabbar would be a fun match-up (KAJ always had a difficult time against small, pesky centers i.e. Cowens, Unseld). On the other hand an in-prime Michael Cooper on MJ would also be a sight to see.

[gift_of_game]

The 90s Bulls team could have won one or two, I think.

 

only if you put the best complementary pieces of the first and second three-peat teams together.

 

para hindi OT: Jason Williams aka White Choco

[grail80]

only if you put the best complementary pieces of the first and second three-peat teams together.

 

para hindi OT: Jason Williams aka White Choco

 

 

Too bad we'll never know. Red Auerbach said it best: "Championships are not won on paper. You have to play the games to find out."

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Too bad we'll never know. Red Auerbach said it best: "Championships are not won on paper. You have to play the games to find out."

 

we won't.

 

I just don't think those Bulls teams had enough in terms of depth to go toe to toe with LA, Boston and Detroit.

we sort of have an idea with how they'd fair vs. Detroit but LA and Boston in their prime years was just something else.

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we won't.

 

I just don't think those Bulls teams had enough in terms of depth to go toe to toe with LA, Boston and Detroit.

we sort of have an idea with how they'd fair vs. Detroit but LA and Boston in their prime years was just something else.

Moreover, the Celts of Bird had a tall frontline, arguably the best of all time. The Bulls would have a hard time matching up with their height. Pippen would find it difficult to say the least in defending Larry Legend. He'd post him up and shoot over him or shoot from way out. Pippen would just have to pick his poison. Rodman would be overpowered by Kevin Mchale and lastly the Chief is a much more superior center than Longley although the Celts wouldnt' have anyone to defend His Airness. Harper and Ainge would cancel each other out.