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regardless, we don't know---for sure anyway---how that partnership would've gone.

naturally, they wouldn't give MJ free reign off the bat as a rookie as the Blazers were loaded on the wing.

 

if I'd make my own guess, he'd more likely take on a truncated version of the Kobe career path---provide the spark off the bench as a scoring 6th man early on and then ascend as a #2 once the team had better complementary pieces.

 

anyway, the "in theory part" is nice but the perfect storm was laid at MJ's feet and he made the most out of that situation.

he was in a big market city, he was the main guy on the team/face of the franchise and the powers of the East declined right around the time he hit his prime years.

Ok point taken. Had Jordan been in his prime around the same time of Bird and Magic were in theirs and of course he had his team in the 90's, do you think he would have won all those championships?

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even if he had Pippen with him and a thug rebounder, I guess not.

LA, Boston and even Detroit just had better teams overall.

 

it all boils down to being in the right place at the right time.

 

 

Ok point taken. Had Jordan been in his prime around the same time of Bird and Magic were in theirs and of course he had his team in the 90's, do you think he would have won all those championships?
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even if he had Pippen with him and a thug rebounder, I guess not.

LA, Boston and even Detroit just had better teams overall.

 

it all boils down to being in the right place at the right time.

I concur.

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even if he had Pippen with him and a thug rebounder, I guess not.

LA, Boston and even Detroit just had better teams overall.

 

it all boils down to being in the right place at the right time.

 

The 90s Bulls team could have won one or two, I think.

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^^ IMO, the 72-10 Bulls team can beat any of those 3 quite convincingly in a 7-game series. They'd probably have the hardest time against the '85 or '87 Lakers but Pip will slow down Magic enough for Showtime to grind to a halt. Rodman on Abdul-Jabbar would be a fun match-up (KAJ always had a difficult time against small, pesky centers i.e. Cowens, Unseld). On the other hand an in-prime Michael Cooper on MJ would also be a sight to see.

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only if you put the best complementary pieces of the first and second three-peat teams together.

 

para hindi OT: Jason Williams aka White Choco

 

 

Too bad we'll never know. Red Auerbach said it best: "Championships are not won on paper. You have to play the games to find out."

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Too bad we'll never know. Red Auerbach said it best: "Championships are not won on paper. You have to play the games to find out."

 

we won't. :)

 

I just don't think those Bulls teams had enough in terms of depth to go toe to toe with LA, Boston and Detroit.

we sort of have an idea with how they'd fair vs. Detroit but LA and Boston in their prime years was just something else.

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we won't. :)

 

I just don't think those Bulls teams had enough in terms of depth to go toe to toe with LA, Boston and Detroit.

we sort of have an idea with how they'd fair vs. Detroit but LA and Boston in their prime years was just something else.

Moreover, the Celts of Bird had a tall frontline, arguably the best of all time. The Bulls would have a hard time matching up with their height. Pippen would find it difficult to say the least in defending Larry Legend. He'd post him up and shoot over him or shoot from way out. Pippen would just have to pick his poison. Rodman would be overpowered by Kevin Mchale and lastly the Chief is a much more superior center than Longley although the Celts wouldnt' have anyone to defend His Airness. Harper and Ainge would cancel each other out.

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and to top it all off, the Celtics also had a healthy and reanimated Bill Walton coming off the bench in `86.

 

if the you put the best components of both three-peat teams though, they might have a shot.

Luc Longley, Bison Dele and Bill Cartwright at center, Rodman and Grant would provide the muscle/hustle at PF.

then you had Kukoc, Harper, Kerr, Armstrong and Paxson. it's still not a whole lot but the pieces should fit.

 

 

Moreover, the Celts of Bird had a tall frontline, arguably the best of all time. The Bulls would have a hard time matching up with their height. Pippen would find it difficult to say the least in defending Larry Legend. He'd post him up and shoot over him or shoot from way out. Pippen would just have to pick his poison. Rodman would be overpowered by Kevin Mchale and lastly the Chief is a much more superior center than Longley although the Celts wouldnt' have anyone to defend His Airness. Harper and Ainge would cancel each other out.
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and to top it all off, the Celtics also had a healthy and reanimated Bill Walton coming off the bench in `86.

 

if the you put the best components of both three-peat teams though, they might have a shot.

Luc Longley, Bison Dele and Bill Cartwright at center, Rodman and Grant would provide the muscle/hustle at PF.

then you had Kukoc, Harper, Kerr, Armstrong and Paxson. it's still not a whole lot but the pieces should fit.

Ok. Granted that the best components of both three-peat teams of the Bulls were in one team and Reggie Lewis and Len Bias didn't die, that theoretical Bulls team would still find it difficult to get past the theoretical Celtic team with Bias and Lewis. I don't know if you watched Len Bias games or agree with me that he was the Lebron James of that era but he was an athletic 6'8 forward with a pretty good range.

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saw the Bias clips on youtube, through prior TV features and some recent articles on him.

 

I wouldn't go so far as calling him as the LeBron of his time as there are differences (body type and playing style being the most obvious) but he would've been an all-star-type guy.

if I'd come with a comparison off the bat, I'd have him down as a more well-rounded/more complete version of Dominique Wilkins.

 

 

Ok. Granted that the best components of both three-peat teams of the Bulls were in one team and Reggie Lewis and Len Bias didn't die, that theoretical Bulls team would still find it difficult to get past the theoretical Celtic team with Bias and Lewis. I don't know if you watched Len Bias games or agree with me that he was the Lebron James of that era but he was an athletic 6'8 forward with a pretty good range.
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saw the Bias clips on youtube, through prior TV features and some recent articles on him.

 

I wouldn't go so far as calling him as the LeBron of his time as there are differences (body type and playing style being the most obvious) but he would've been an all-star-type guy.

if I'd come with a comparison off the bat, I'd have him down as a more well-rounded/more complete version of Dominique Wilkins.

I compared him to Lebron James coz he was 6'8 and very athletic. Jordan would have had problems with him everytime they would have met. NBA experts were comparing Jordan and him when he was drafted by the Celts in 86.

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"body type"...LeBron James is built like a tank.

Bias was long, graceful and epitomized "wiry strength" (hence the MJ comparisons).

to me anyway, watching the highlights, the Nique comp seems fair enough.

Bill Simmons was thinking more of James Worthy.

 

but that's the thing, the ugliest thing about his death is that we'll never know how things would've turned out.

while we could say MJ would've/might've had a hard time vs. LB, LB could've/might've had a hard time vs. MJ.

 

I compared him to Lebron James coz he was 6'8 and very athletic. Jordan would have had problems with him everytime they would have met. NBA experts were comparing Jordan and him when he was drafted by the Celts in 86.
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while the match-up seem to favor the celtics, i would still say that the bulls will still manage to win the series because of phil jackson and his coaching staff, which includes tex winter. i they will be the better tactician and will be able to match the right players against the all star celtics

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