The Football Thread

[howard_the_duck]

it seems that the glazer takeover wasn't that bad after all...

[duchessXI]

I didn't say the Olde English leage one.

 

 

I said the BARCLAY's PREMIER LEAGUE which I think you lot haven't won.

 

 

and yes this is me back with my answer.

 

LOL, it was just f#&king renamed to Barclays Premier League just because Barclays Bank were sponsors. Wow, take them out and you have only the EPL. pls tell me difference, and come back with a more sensible answer pls.

 

oh and did u really say that, try backreading a bit and check whether you really did. and try capslocking your whole quote over.

 

cheers.

[duchessXI]

LIV 58 trophies

MANU 50 trophies

 

although LIV's failure to win their first premier league trophy is still remarkable for such a multi-titled club

 

oh hey, look what we have here, weve got some facts, minus the opinion.

[duchessXI]

LIV 58 trophies

MANU 50 trophies

 

although LIV's failure to win their first premier league trophy is still remarkable for such a multi-titled club

 

i agree on winning our first trophy since it was renamed. but then again, In Rafa We Trust

 

lets go to international trophies shall we? :thumbsupsmiley:

[howard_the_duck]

i agree on winning our first trophy since it was renamed. but then again, In Rafa We Trust

 

lets go to international trophies shall we? :thumbsupsmiley:

lahat lahat na yan, pati community shield

[redshirt]

LOL, it was just f#&king renamed to Barclays Premier League just because Barclays Bank were sponsors. Wow, take them out and you have only the EPL. pls tell me difference, and come back with a more sensible answer pls.

 

oh and did u really say that, try backreading a bit and check whether you really did. and try capslocking your whole quote over.

 

cheers.

 

Well sir it wasn't called EPL before. It was called The Football League First Division. That is the differene.

 

 

And here are the list of the EPL champions past and present...

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Premier_League_seasons

 

 

Kindly click on the link if you will.

 

 

And Oh, I didn't see Liverpool anywhere.....

 

 

Weird eh?

[bubuy]

ano ba pinagkaiba kung may Barclay's? edi ba sponsor lang naman yun? it's the same league top flight league of english football di ba? or am i missing something here.

 

anyway, premiership teams are overrated.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ole! ole! ole! ole! congrats to Real Madrid! 31st La Liga championsip! back to back.. and yes, we've also endured our title droughts..

Edited May 6, 2008 by bubuy

[redshirt]

oh hey, look what we have here, weve got some facts, minus the opinion.

This is a list of every Premier League season from the league's foundation in 1992–93 to the end of the most recent completed season. To date, there have been fifteen Premier League seasons. The league has been won by four different clubs—Manchester United (nine times), Arsenal (three times), Chelsea (twice) and Blackburn Rovers (once).

[redshirt]

ano ba pinagkaiba kung may Barclay's? edi ba sponsor lang naman yun? it's the same league top flight league of english football di ba? or am i missing something here.

 

anyway, premiership teams are overrated.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ole! ole! ole! ole! congrats to Real Madrid! 31st La Liga championsip! back to back.. and yes, we've also endured our title droughts..

 

 

Sir bubuy kindly read the excerpt from the wikipedia article if you will

 

 

 

 

Origins

 

The 1980s had marked a low point for English football. Stadiums were crumbling, supporters endured poor facilities, hooliganism was rife, and English clubs were banned from European competition following the events at Heysel in 1985.[3] The Football League First Division, which had been the top level of English football since 1888, was well behind leagues such as Italy's Serie A and Spain's La Liga in attendances and revenues, and several top English players had moved abroad.[4] However, by the turn of the 1990s the downward trend was starting to reverse; England had been successful in the 1990 FIFA World Cup, reaching the semi-finals. UEFA, European football's governing body, lifted the five-year ban on English clubs playing in European competitions in 1990 and the Taylor Report on stadium safety standards, which proposed expensive upgrades to create all-seater stadiums, was published in January of that year.[5]

 

Television money had also become much more important; the Football League received £6.3million for a two-year agreement in 1986, but when that deal was renewed in 1988, the price rose to £44m over four years.[6] The 1988 negotiations were the first signs of a breakaway league; ten clubs threatened to leave and form a "super league", but were eventually persuaded to stay.[7] As stadiums improved and match attendance and revenues rose, the country's top teams again considered leaving the Football League in order to capitalise on the growing influx of money being pumped into the sport.

 

 

Foundation

In the 1991 close season, a proposal for the establishment of a new league was tabled that would bring more money into the game overall. The Founder Members Agreement, signed on 17 July 1991 by the game's top-flight clubs, established the basic principles for setting up the FA Premier League.[8] The newly formed top division would have commercial independence from the Football Association and the Football League, giving the FA Premier League license to negotiate its own broadcast and sponsorship agreements. This was considered necessary so that English clubs could once again compete with and beat the best of Europe, while attracting the best talent in the world, something which in 1991 seemed practically unthinkable.[9]

 

In 1992 the First Division clubs resigned from the Football League en masse and on 27 May 1992 the FA Premier League was formed as a limited company working out of an office at the Football Association's then headquarters in Lancaster Gate.[4] This meant a break-up of the 104-year-old Football League that had operated until then with four divisions; the Premier League would operate with a single division and the Football League with three. There was no change in competition format; the same number of teams competed in the top flight, and promotion and relegation between the Premier League and the new First Division remained on the same terms as between the old First and Second Divisions.

 

The 22 inaugural members of the new Premiership were Arsenal, Aston Villa, Blackburn Rovers, Chelsea, Coventry City, Crystal Palace, Everton, Ipswich Town, Leeds United, Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United, Middlesbrough, Norwich City, Nottingham Forest, Oldham Athletic, Queens Park Rangers, Sheffield United, Sheffield Wednesday, Southampton, Tottenham Hotspur, and Wimbledon.

[howard_the_duck]

Prior to Premier League:

Football League = Division 1 + Division 2 + Division 3 + Division 4

 

After Premier League

Premier League

Football League = Division 1 (now called the Championship) + Division 2 (Football League One) + Division 3 (Football League Two)

[bubuy]

that's technicality.. you'd have to think top flight english football would have more history than 16 years???

[howard_the_duck]

the top flight has existed for more than 100 years

 

but the history of the "current spell" of the top flight is rather short.

 

that said, it's common sense to combine all old spell division 1 + premier league championships into one count. if one cares for more recent history, and to state the obvious that liverpool hasn't won since the 80s, the "premier league" qualifier can be validly added

[redshirt]

^

 

Well the "current spell" is the one that is in effect right?Yes it is relatively new indeed. And I am Stating the obvious

 

 

 

LIV hasn't won it while BLA has.

 

 

Awww... Too bad. Maybe next year eh?

 

 

 

 

 

Or the next year...

 

or the next year after that and the one after....

 

 

 

 

that's technicality.. you'd have to think top flight english football would have more history than 16 years???

It is a technicality but still.

 

 

the EPL is like Roxas Blvd.

 

The Football League First Division is like Dewey Blvd.

 

 

I hope the analogy helps. I know you wouldn't understand sir bubuy. Being a LIV supporter and all...

[bubuy]

thanks for looking down on my intelligence bro, i appreciate it.. :thumbsupsmiley:

 

and continuing your analogy.. roxas blvd is still on the same spot as dewey blvd as before right, they didnt move it anywhere? as per that analogy i dont see a location change only a name change..

 

most probably the same people that passed dewey, still were able to use roxas blvd at some point in their lives.. as per your analogy that would equate to the same teams (most) that played the old premiership are the same characters in the barclays premiership.. or ibang teams na ang naglalaro ngayon? is the current man united fc a different ballclub that played before 1992?

 

are you willing to accept that everything that has happened with manchester united fc, as far as top flight english football is concerned, before 1992 to be invalid or non-existent?

 

and no, am not a liverpool fan.. i WAS a man united fan.. but madrid runs thru my blood now ever since becks left..

Edited May 6, 2008 by bubuy

[duchessXI]

Prior to Premier League:

Football League = Division 1 + Division 2 + Division 3 + Division 4

 

After Premier League

Premier League

Football League = Division 1 (now called the Championship) + Division 2 (Football League One) + Division 3 (Football League Two)

 

err, wrong? zz