damaso Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 interesting column on brazil and dribbling: COLUMN-Soccer-Dribbling becomes a sin in Brazil By Brian Homewood RIO DE JANEIRO, March 16 (Reuters) - One of the most abiding moments of the 2002 World Cup was Brazilian winger Denilson taking the ball into the corner and dribbling around in a circle chased by half the Turkey team. Brazil were leading 1-0 in the semi-final with seconds left and commentators and fans went wild with delight, hailing Denilson's irreverence and cheeky skills as a classic piece of Brazilian play. Yet when Brazilian players are on the wrong end of similar trickery, they fail to see the funny side. Had Denilson tried a similar trick in his homeland, there is a good chance his antics would have provoked a brawl and it is even possible the game would not have finished. Incredibly, for a country that produced players such as Garrincha and Pele, dribbling is often considered a provocative humiliation of an opponent, a breach of fair play and even an insult to the victim's manhood. Ten days ago, Corinthians players bitterly criticised Palmeiras midfielder Jorge Valdivia for dribbling too much during a derby against them. Valdivia, a Chilean international, inspired Palmeiras to a 3-0 win and afterwards received a thinly-veiled warning from Corinthians coach Emerson Leao. "I'm worried about what might happen to him in the future because he has technique but he exaggerates," said Leao after his team had taken it in turns to kick the Chilean. "I worried that something more serious might happen to him in the future." KEEPY-UPPY PROVOCATION Corinthians and Palmeiras share a bitter rivalry -- it can only take a few "Oles" from the crowd to spark trouble -- and have already provided an extreme example of what can happen. Back in 1999, the sides met to decide the Paulista championship in a two-leg final. With Corinthians enjoying a three-goal aggregate lead and only a few minutes to play, forward Edilson decided it was time for some famed Brazilian trickery and nonchalantly began playing keepy-uppy in midfield. The gesture incensed the Palmeiras players, who chased him off the field. A vicious brawl ensued, with players exchanging punches and karate kicks, and the referee abandoned the match. Edilson did nothing outside the laws of the game, yet he was punished rather than the brawlers. The following day, Vanderlei Luxemburgo, then Brazil coach, dropped him from the squad for the Copa America. Since then, the dividing line between what is considered a legitimate dribble and an attempt to belittle the opposition has become ever thinner. Another startling incident happened in 2002 when Coritiba striker Jaba performed a couple of cheeky stepovers against Santos -- and in doing so gave away a free kick. "The rule says that a player cannot endanger an opponent or himself," said referee Leonardo Gaciba. "He wasn't being objective so I awarded a free kick to protect him. If somebody had broken his leg, they will say that I was not clamping down on violence." The same year, the second division match between Sport Recife and Botafogo-Ribeirao Preto was abandoned in the last minute when a Sport player was chased off the pitch by opponents for more ball-juggling. ROBINHO BULLIED That was the year in which Robinho, now with Real Madrid, burst on to the scene and he also had to cope with threats and bullying. "Players get angry when they get dribbled all the time," said Gremio goalkeeper Danrlei after his side lost 3-0 to a Robinho-inspired performance. "He could end up having his leg broken." Former winger Edu, who could send the crowd into raptures when he played for Santos in the 1970s, is baffled by current attitudes. "The dribble is a tool which makes the team more offensive," he told the Estado de Sao Paulo newspaper. "The intelligent dribble...is the essence of football. And now, even this they want to take away," he said. "The problem is that in modern football, there are few players who can do it. When one appears, everybody jumps on top of him. During my career, I never heard anyone complaining about my dribbling." Sao Paulo were the latest victims of the war on dribbling when striker Leandro was criticised by rivals Santos following Sunday's 1-1 draw. "That's his way of playing," said coach Muricy Ramalho. "He likes to attack and in today's football, with so little space, the dribble is a way of taking someone out of the game." "But it seems that today, you can't do a nice dribble any more." Quote Link to comment
teio Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 argh... wala na PSG sa uefa cup... Quote Link to comment
redshirt Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 interesting column on brazil and dribbling: COLUMN-Soccer-Dribbling becomes a sin in Brazil By Brian Homewood RIO DE JANEIRO, March 16 (Reuters) - One of the most abiding moments of the 2002 World Cup was Brazilian winger Denilson taking the ball into the corner and dribbling around in a circle chased by half the Turkey team. Brazil were leading 1-0 in the semi-final with seconds left and commentators and fans went wild with delight, hailing Denilson's irreverence and cheeky skills as a classic piece of Brazilian play. Yet when Brazilian players are on the wrong end of similar trickery, they fail to see the funny side. Had Denilson tried a similar trick in his homeland, there is a good chance his antics would have provoked a brawl and it is even possible the game would not have finished. Incredibly, for a country that produced players such as Garrincha and Pele, dribbling is often considered a provocative humiliation of an opponent, a breach of fair play and even an insult to the victim's manhood. Ten days ago, Corinthians players bitterly criticised Palmeiras midfielder Jorge Valdivia for dribbling too much during a derby against them. Valdivia, a Chilean international, inspired Palmeiras to a 3-0 win and afterwards received a thinly-veiled warning from Corinthians coach Emerson Leao. "I'm worried about what might happen to him in the future because he has technique but he exaggerates," said Leao after his team had taken it in turns to kick the Chilean. "I worried that something more serious might happen to him in the future." KEEPY-UPPY PROVOCATION Corinthians and Palmeiras share a bitter rivalry -- it can only take a few "Oles" from the crowd to spark trouble -- and have already provided an extreme example of what can happen. Back in 1999, the sides met to decide the Paulista championship in a two-leg final. With Corinthians enjoying a three-goal aggregate lead and only a few minutes to play, forward Edilson decided it was time for some famed Brazilian trickery and nonchalantly began playing keepy-uppy in midfield. The gesture incensed the Palmeiras players, who chased him off the field. A vicious brawl ensued, with players exchanging punches and karate kicks, and the referee abandoned the match. Edilson did nothing outside the laws of the game, yet he was punished rather than the brawlers. The following day, Vanderlei Luxemburgo, then Brazil coach, dropped him from the squad for the Copa America. Since then, the dividing line between what is considered a legitimate dribble and an attempt to belittle the opposition has become ever thinner. Another startling incident happened in 2002 when Coritiba striker Jaba performed a couple of cheeky stepovers against Santos -- and in doing so gave away a free kick. "The rule says that a player cannot endanger an opponent or himself," said referee Leonardo Gaciba. "He wasn't being objective so I awarded a free kick to protect him. If somebody had broken his leg, they will say that I was not clamping down on violence." The same year, the second division match between Sport Recife and Botafogo-Ribeirao Preto was abandoned in the last minute when a Sport player was chased off the pitch by opponents for more ball-juggling. ROBINHO BULLIED That was the year in which Robinho, now with Real Madrid, burst on to the scene and he also had to cope with threats and bullying. "Players get angry when they get dribbled all the time," said Gremio goalkeeper Danrlei after his side lost 3-0 to a Robinho-inspired performance. "He could end up having his leg broken." Former winger Edu, who could send the crowd into raptures when he played for Santos in the 1970s, is baffled by current attitudes. "The dribble is a tool which makes the team more offensive," he told the Estado de Sao Paulo newspaper. "The intelligent dribble...is the essence of football. And now, even this they want to take away," he said. "The problem is that in modern football, there are few players who can do it. When one appears, everybody jumps on top of him. During my career, I never heard anyone complaining about my dribbling." Sao Paulo were the latest victims of the war on dribbling when striker Leandro was criticised by rivals Santos following Sunday's 1-1 draw. "That's his way of playing," said coach Muricy Ramalho. "He likes to attack and in today's football, with so little space, the dribble is a way of taking someone out of the game." "But it seems that today, you can't do a nice dribble any more." lesson learned: don't be fancy Quote Link to comment
_eRon_ Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 ManUtd with a 4-1 thrashing of Bolton, 2 goals by Rooney & another 2 from Park, a late penalty for Bolton from Gary Speed..Chelsea keep pace with a 3-0 win over Sheffield United..sad for ManU that their skipper, Gary Neville is out for 3weeks due to an ankle injury..konti na lang Champion na ulit Red Devils ko (if ManUtd win their games up to Mar31, they will be crowned as the new champions of the EPL ) Wawa si Ben Foster ng Watford, nakagoal sa kanya si Paul Robinson (gk ng Tottenham) from 75yards away, napahiya tuloy ang bata, mali judgement sa bounce ng ball.. I watched EL Classico, what a game, Messi with a hat trick, that kid is good.. Quote Link to comment
_eRon_ Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 oo nga sinong may vid nun? kaawa si ben foster, on loan from ManUtd sa Watford, tpos napahiya siya ng ganun..tsk tsk tsk.. Quote Link to comment
_eRon_ Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 watched the tottenham-watford game, ben foster (gk) totally misjudged the ball's bounce, it was paul robinson's 2nd goal of his career.. did anybody watch the replay of chelsea&tottenham, what a wonder strike by shevchenko for his 13th goal of the season, too bad he can only do it during the FA cup & not in the EPL or the CL, Chelsea would be a formidable opponent if both Drogba & Sheva were playing good.. nice win by the Red Devils over Middlesborough, stupid challenge by woodgate to c.ronaldo for a penalty.. FAcup semis:Watford vs. ManUtdChelsea vs. Blackburn Eventual finalists? ManUtd vs Chelsea, that would be a great final.. Arsenal lost 1-0 to Everton, Liverpool have a 0-0 draw to Aston Villa, the Reds just 1 pt behind the Gunnars in the EPL standings.. Quote Link to comment
dj_flip03 Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 argh... wala na PSG sa uefa cup... Yup. Relegation threatened na nga, na-silat pa sa 2nd leg ng UEFA cup. What a bad season for PSG. anyone have the vid where the goalie scored a goal?? :cool: anyone have the vid where the goalie scored a goal?? :cool: I think its in www.metacafe.com already. Quote Link to comment
redshirt Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 Yep ang ganda nang FA cup finals kung CFC vs MANU. Pero uncertain kung sino ang mananalo. 50-50 chance eh depending if both sides play well. but the odds are against MANU on that one. mas maraming wins ang CFC over them the past few meetings. Pero pag BLA VS MANU its 65-45 to united Anyone seen the REAL Madrid VS Gymnastic game? abakit parang hirap na hirap ang real sa mga ito diba they are i think bottom of the La Liga? hayzzz.... Quote Link to comment
teio Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 so much for all the glitz and pride... Yup. Relegation threatened na nga, na-silat pa sa 2nd leg ng UEFA cup. What a bad season for PSG. Quote Link to comment
_eRon_ Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 PSG was once a great team, too bad for the Paris club, tsk tsk tsk.. ManUtd to win the FA cup, EPL and CL!! hehehe go red devils!! Quote Link to comment
redshirt Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 PSG was once a great team, too bad for the Paris club, tsk tsk tsk.. ManUtd to win the FA cup, EPL and CL!! hehehe go red devils!!wow sana nga. History tends to repeat itself hope it goes united's way. Quote Link to comment
redshirt Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 Internationals this week. Go England! Quote Link to comment
bubuy Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 anyone have the vid where the goalie scored a goal?? :cool: anyone have the vid where the goalie scored a goal?? :cool: ito yung video. i think robinson was sending a message to the england manager who to start next time. hehe. Quote Link to comment
xycho_g Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 wow!!! astig ung goal. mas malayo pa sa becks goal... haha Quote Link to comment
redshirt Posted March 25, 2007 Share Posted March 25, 2007 Too bad stalemate lng ang ISR vs ENG,shame Quote Link to comment
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