The Football Thread

[bubuy]

ito isang looming debate on the horizon..

 

if (and only if) liverpool wins the ECL, they wouldn't be able to defend it because they are in 5th spot in the EPL (only the top 4 places go to the champions league).. do you think UEFA should allow liverpool to defend the cup?

[bubuy]

tinanggal nila ung rule na un.. at least that's the last i heard..

 

 

just like the FIFA ruling that the defending World Cup holders would have to go through the qualifying stages..

Edited May 16, 2005 by bubuy

[Poker]

So why are fans of ManU angry about the Glazer takeover, and not Chelsea fans angry with Amramovich takeover?

 

Just my point of view, ManU is a publicly listed company, Chelsea is not. Galzer needs 51% ownership to control the company, 75% ownership for ManU be Delisted in the stock exchange, and 90% ownership for a full control (meaning, no more board votes).

 

Currently, Glazer has less than 75% ownership, therefore, ManU is still publicly listed. Around 5% of the ownership is owned by the FANS, therefore, the Fans has the right to complain on the takeover. Analysts predict that Glazer will get the 90++% ownership of ManU. Therefore, his "LOAN" to takeover the club (around $3B - not sure), will be absorbed by ManU cause Glazer has the right and power to do so.

 

As for Chelsea, it is not a publicly listed company, therefore, there were no such "protest" going on. And as the poster above mentioned, they need Abromavich to resurrect the club.

 

As for the future of ManU, let's see if Glazer would succeed. But as another poster above also said, this club will/should be run as a business not a sports club.

 

Again, the above post is just my point of view. Hope this helps.

 

 

Great job by Barcelona. Real Madrid must be scratching their heads right now.

[Poker]

tinanggal nila ung rule na un.. at least that's the last i heard..

just like the FIFA ruling that the defending World Cup holders would have to go through the qualifying stages..

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You are right. However, FIFA mentioned that if Liverpool wins the Champions League, English FA will have to request to them for Liverpool to be included in next year's CL. FIFA president said that FIFA might grant the request cause its unfair for the defending champs not to defend the title. FIFA is willing to expand the English FA "delegation" to 5 slots, if Liverpool wins.

 

But as per the rule, English FA has only 4 slots for the CL.

[_eRon_]

fans don't like the glazer takeover because they say it will increase the ticket prices as well as put the club in debt..(glazer is financing his takeover with a huge bank loan, he has paid 790 million for the prestigious English club)

 

Chelsea fans welcomed Roman Abramovich because they needed the money..as compared to ManU, glazer took over ManU because of the huge profits..i think ManU can benefit from the Glazer takeover by acquiring new players to rival Chelsea & Arsenal for the championship, the fans are just afraid that ManU will lose its place as a genuine English club because of an American takeover..

 

I think ManU need new midfield players to supply their forwards with quality balls, especially wingers & they need to find a replacement for aging players such as Keane, Giggs..they should also supplement their defense..it will be interesting what will happen during the break, how ferguson will mold the squad to challenge not only for the EPL but for the Champions League as well..Go ManU!! :cool:

 

it's disappointing that ac milan is only second in the serie a..not to take anything away from juventus, they deserve to be #1 after beating ac milan.. :cool:

[damaso]

tinanggal nila ung rule na un.. at least that's the last i heard..

just like the FIFA ruling that the defending World Cup holders would have to go through the qualifying stages..

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actually, there has been a precedent of this situation. in 1998, real madrid won the uefa champions league but finished 5th at the primera liga. as spain were only allocated 4 champions league spots, the spanish fa decided that the 4th placed team in spain (i believe it was zaragoza, not sure) would be replaced by real madrid, so they could defend their european championship.

 

however, the english fa will not follow suit and has declared the top 4 placed teams in the premiership would be the teams to represent england in the uefa champions league.

[damaso]

viva barca!

 

[bubuy]

You are right.  However, FIFA mentioned that if Liverpool wins the Champions League, English FA will have to request to them for Liverpool to be included in next year's CL.  FIFA president said that FIFA might grant the request cause its unfair for the defending champs not to defend the title.  FIFA is willing to expand the English FA "delegation" to 5 slots, if Liverpool wins.

 

But as per the rule, English FA has only 4 slots for the CL.

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u mean UEFA not FIFA..

[damaso]

barcelona has just signed psv's star midfielder, mark van bommel

[damaso]

cska moscow has just won the uefa cup via a 3-1 win over sporting lisbon in the final

[Poker]

u mean UEFA not FIFA..

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Apologies, my mistake.

[bubuy]

barcelona has just signed psv's star midfielder, mark van bommel

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open na ba transfer window?

[bubuy]

Apologies, my mistake.

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no problem..

[damaso]

open na ba transfer window?

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nope. van bommel's contract with psv is up. so no transfer fees were involved.

[teio]

van bommel going to barca?...

 

and philip cocu is being wooed by ac milan...

 

what will happen to psv?

 

btw... cska moscow won the uefa cup...

Edited May 20, 2005 by the_electrified_one