BEaST-RiPPed Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 pwede ba ung mga nag-dedebate dito mag meet nlng sa isang place para dun ituloy ang mga argumento?dpat share tyo ng opinion na makakatulong para sa lahat hinde bangayan di ba?malilito kming mga baguhan sa inyo... ung OT ba off topic? ksi ung OT dito parang over tym e, over tym na batuhan ng putik sa pwet... PEACE! Quote Link to comment
JesusFreak! Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 Off Topic po.... pwede ba ung mga nag-dedebate dito mag meet nlng sa isang place para dun ituloy ang mga argumento?dpat share tyo ng opinion na makakatulong para sa lahat hinde bangayan di ba?malilito kming mga baguhan sa inyo...ung OT ba off topic? ksi ung OT dito parang over tym e, over tym na batuhan ng putik sa pwet...PEACE! Quote Link to comment
BEaST-RiPPed Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 IDon't k*ll the messenger. My informant knows you personally and says that you are a skinny kid with a big ego. there's the dagger! aray! andrean pre ang sakit nun... Quote Link to comment
JesusFreak! Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 uy, don't be such a bully. there's the dagger! aray! andrean pre ang sakit nun... Quote Link to comment
Olympus Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 Again, let me reiterate that at the end of the day, ITS THE RESULTS THAT MATTER AS RESULTS DON'T LIE!! Team Eclipse has produced a men's health challenge winner, a bench press class winner, a gold and silver medlist, along with a best lifter at the LVM powerlifting championships, two URCC champs go to us for training, a couple of amateur and pro basketball players also go to us for training... All of these we have achieved, along with at least 40 guys deadlifting 315 raw and natural with less than a year of training under our system.... Just goes to show, WE WALK THE WALK!! We can go all days about theories and prinicples but at the end of the day ITS THE RESULTS THAT MATTER!! Even if you are a CSCS, Certified as a trainer by ACE, Nutilus, AFPP, Uncle Joe's fitness or, Aunt Jemimas strength club and whatever organization there may be, if you can't produce the results wanted by your clients, or even push them to greater heights, you are no better than the guy in the squat rack doig curls and giving advice to fellow gym mates! Quote Link to comment
Olympus Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 Besides, I have yet to meet a person who just wants an aesthetic body. Anyone will ask you will say they just wanna be fit, loe or gain weight, but in reality, most gym goers have deeper motivations and reasons for wanting such. Some may be to improve their athleti game, others to looks as good as the cover model of a amagazine they saw. A good coach will always know how to bring out the best in their clients and make these clients realize they had so much more in them I have nothing against nurses and PTs, but I do believe their specialization lies in the special population where they have to make people get well. The job of strength coaches is to get a person into great physical condition be it generally or specifically. My best analogy is this.... A car is being repaired.. the bodyork guys do what they have to do with the body of the car, the paint guys do nothing but the paint If a team of repairmen know thier limits, yet do it to the best of their capabilities. I think the fitness industry should do th same. Leave the strength and conditioning to the strength coaches, and leave the rehab to the therapists. In the end, everybody happy :cool: Quote Link to comment
BEaST-RiPPed Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 pre, naiyak ako dun pero TAMA ka! :cool: aw, shut up... nyway... pag igihan mo na lang training mo... at wag iinom opo sir! inuman nlng tyo.....ng protein shake! Damn true, I'm often asked when I enrol in some gym what goals do I want to achieve... I would just say that yeah, I just want to lose weight and reach my ideal weight no more no less... but secretly inside, my heart screams I wanna be like that guy on the cover of Men's Health... I admit that right now, what I look like now is way too far than I imagine what I want to really look like... and I'll do whatever it takes in a healthy way to achieve it... I'm going insane thinking about it, and even in my dreams it haunts me. (It's true) I even consulted a shrink cause I think I'm going crazy :boo: just joking. oops! ako talaga sinasabi ko na upfront gusto ko lumakiewan ko b jan kay JF kung bkit nagpapakipot pa with "I just want to lose weight and reach my ideal weight no more no less" effect... aminin mo na gusto mong maging brod pete....ALIEN! Quote Link to comment
Olympus Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 http://alwyncosgrove.com/Energy-System-Training.htmlhttp://alwyncosgrove.com/ModShow/ShowPage/90417http://alwyncosgrove.com/Fat-Loss-Wars.html -- Good reads on fatloss Quote Link to comment
dj25 Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 that's my point, you do not say that theories are nothing and result is still the best.coz you admit that you are still practicing the theories and principles in your gym.the debate that we have here is what principle or theory is applicable to certain person.maybe, I still apply the old form of fitness program for myself but criticizing it is really a foul play, since the old program still works for me and i also based it to theories and principles. this also happens to you when i criticized the program that you want to advertise. you were very furious about it.instead of criticizing it, you should convince the people here by giving a sample program. i've asked in this thread regarding HIIT and TABATA. olympus only replied 60 or 70 percent of the body weight is the start of the poundage. i mean, that's it, how do you progress this? i did not have a concrete answer. like what you said, you should give it in a more detailed fashion.i'm not bragging coz i'm a PT. i'm just using this to my advantage because when you say fitness it refers to the muscles, how it moves, how can you improve it, etc..etc.... however, i'm just generalizing it, i know that there are still subcategory when it comes to fitness.that's why some people get irritated with your post. this thread is not your thread, this thread is for all the gym goers out there who wants to share their experiences in going to the gym. unless the title of the thread is ECLIPSE BUILD A MODEL BODY, then we have no reason to post something here. Quote Link to comment
Olympus Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 that's my point, you do not say that theories are nothing and result is still the best.coz you admit that you are still practicing the theories and principles in your gym.the debate that we have here is what principle or theory is applicable to certain person.maybe, I still apply the old form of fitness program for myself but criticizing it is really a foul play, since the old program still works for me and i also based it to theories and principles. this also happens to you when i criticized the program that you want to advertise. you were very furious about it.instead of criticizing it, you should convince the people here by giving a sample program. i've asked in this thread regarding HIIT and TABATA. olympus only replied 60 or 70 percent of the body weight is the start of the poundage. i mean, that's it, how do you progress this? i did not have a concrete answer. like what you said, you should give it in a more detailed fashion.i'm not bragging coz i'm a PT. i'm just using this to my advantage because when you say fitness it refers to the muscles, how it moves, how can you improve it, etc..etc.... however, i'm just generalizing it, i know that there are still subcategory when it comes to fitness.that's why some people get irritated with your post. this thread is not your thread, this thread is for all the gym goers out there who wants to share their experiences in going to the gym. unless the title of the thread is ECLIPSE BUILD A MODEL BODY, then we have no reason to post something here. I was talking about HIT when you asked how yor progress it. If you are asking about HIIT, you slightly increase the intensity after 2-3 successive sessions. that's my personal preference. EG has his own. Again, I respect you in your field, but in the field of fitness, please don't try to say you are superior to me, or EG since this is our field. If it is rehab and the like, we leave that to you. That's the only point I see that we don't see eye to eye. Even doctors get the point that the surgeon should not do the job of the anesthesiologist. Quote Link to comment
JesusFreak! Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 E inamin ko naman e... not brod pete... haay, ewan andami ko pa concerns, etong medical ko sa company na to di pa nareresolve... hope everything goes well... ewan ko b jan kay JF kung bkit nagpapakipot pa with "I just want to lose weight and reach my ideal weight no more no less" effect... aminin mo na gusto mong maging brod pete....ALIEN! Quote Link to comment
dj25 Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 I was talking about HIT when you asked how yor progress it. If you are asking about HIIT, you slightly increase the intensity after 2-3 successive sessions. that's my personal preference. EG has his own. Again, I respect you in your field, but in the field of fitness, please don't try to say you are superior to me, or EG since this is our field. If it is rehab and the like, we leave that to you. That's the only point I see that we don't see eye to eye. Even doctors get the point that the surgeon should not do the job of the anesthesiologist. oh common, your the one who's not accepting and respecting what people write here. i did not mention anything being superior to you guys, i think your the one mentioning it that your the superior ones. i'm just here to share my experiences as well as the other guys. if you backtrack my post i was asking HIIT and not HIT. how come you and EG have different preference when it comes in training? i thought that you are in the same level and in the same boat? now your telling us that you practice different principle and approach. i thought the dog should obey his master since the master knows it all. i'm not mocking you guys. i'm just shedding light to you that this thread is for all of us whether with or without experience, and not exclusive for the two of you. now with regards to the HIIT, is that the only thing you can share with us. can you give us form of exercises, repetitions, and how many sets. again, i'm not mocking, this is an honest question since this is not my field. Quote Link to comment
JesusFreak! Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 Quoted from: http://alwyncosgrove.com/Energy-System-Training.html Interval training So is there a better way of performing cardio workouts to prevent these adaptations, and rapidly improve fat loss results? Yes. The key is to perform what is known as interval training. Interval training simply refers to a series of intense activity separated with short rest periods. Through using interval training you are able to exercise at a higher intensity without getting tired. In other words – because we alternate the periods of high intensity work, with periods of lower intensity work – you are able to do much more work in the same time period than you were before. The beauty of this is as you improve, the work intervals can get harder and harder, and the recovery intervals can be shortened, or performed at a higher speed. In fact, there is no end in site, and no downside to interval training (other than it is really hard). Oh, yeah it's really hard but I love it... I always look forward to it everytime I go to the gym... I agree that it doesn't make you tired though you might be almost short of breath... nice link, Olympus. Tnx Quote Link to comment
dj25 Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 ako ayaw ko rin ng katawan ni brad pete kasi kahit maging ganon na ang katawan ko hindi ko pa rin mababago ang hitsura ko. si brod pete siguro ng dating daan pwede pa. Quote Link to comment
JesusFreak! Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 ok lang yun pre, libre naman ang mangarap... ako ayaw ko rin ng katawan ni brad pete kasi kahit maging ganon na ang katawan ko hindi ko pa rin mababago ang hitsura ko. si brod pete siguro ng dating daan pwede pa. Quote Link to comment
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