Bolj Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Difficult is different from basura. Dumars can make it to HOF - very hard time but not basura si MJ to Dumars. Can you say basura si MJ to Dumars? Even Rodman may have a shot at the HOF. Malayo pa rin ba ang logic? yes ang layo ng Logic... i said basura si Kobe everytime si Bowen ang nagde-defend sa kanya in the sense that pumuputok ang butse ni Kobe-in short na nasisira yung game nya...I did not say that BOWEN is a GREATER player than KOBE- na yung assessment mo sa sinabi kung Basura si Kobe kay Bowen...ibig sabihin ba nun HOF dapat agad si Bowen?-It took a lot of Maturity in Kobe's part that after several years he was finally able to fend off Bowen...-It also took MJ 2+years to finally conquer Dumars and ths Piston's Defense... Quote Link to comment
webslinger Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 lets just say most defensive player have there own style on how they defend a star player.... bowen and rodman r both wise player they use d weakness of d star player.... bowen did it w ray allen in seattle. amare in suns. and kobe of lakers. like rodman he did it w mourning of d heat. ewing of d knicks and mostly malone of d jazz. bt most of all he make a hell out of scottie and jordan he he he...... Quote Link to comment
complicated8 Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 (edited) yes ang layo ng Logic... i said basura si Kobe everytime si Bowen ang nagde-defend sa kanya in the sense that pumuputok ang butse ni Kobe-in short na nasisira yung game nya...I did not say that BOWEN is a GREATER player than KOBE- na yung assessment mo sa sinabi kung Basura si Kobe kay Bowen...ibig sabihin ba nun HOF dapat agad si Bowen?-It took a lot of Maturity in Kobe's part that after several years he was finally able to fend off Bowen...-It also took MJ 2+years to finally conquer Dumars and ths Piston's Defense...hmmm..... san mo nga ginagamit ang logic mo?"Basura si Kobe kay Bowen" That's an all encompassing statement. If a great player is deserving of HOF, then someone who could stop a great player/future HOF by himself when others couldn't - I think that person/stopper deserves to be in the HOF di ba? Do you have the stats to back your claim (Everytime)? Kung meron dyan na ibang interpretation ng "basura si Kobe kay Bowen".paki mention na lang. Ano ngang sabi ni Jordan about Russell? When Russel claimed that he can defend MJ? I'm pretty sure Kobe would make it one of his personal accomplishments to any one who claims na basura sya. Anyway, back to Michael. He's the greatest in terms of competition. But in terms of class, I prefer John's speech. @webslinger, alam naman natin how bowen plays defense. he isn't the most athletic/talented defensive player but he is able to exert all the effort. He is able to guard almost everyone. He is even assigned to guard Dirk. Edited September 17, 2009 by complicated8 Quote Link to comment
kanski Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 haha.. i see jordan's induction has revived a discussion about him. neat. but wait, bakit parang may secret lover si mj dito na parang hurt kapag may magsasabi ng negative opinion towards the man. pagibig nga naman.. look, mj may be the best bball player there was, but you must be blind if you don't see the arrogance- masquerading as confidence- in him. like somebody said, that's partly the reason for his competitive edge. he may be the best player, but he wasn't the best person to play the game. if you still need evidence, look no further than his h.o.f. acceptance speech. so there mj's lover, time to direct your hate towards me. Quote Link to comment
Bolj Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 (edited) hmmm..... san mo nga ginagamit ang logic mo?"Basura si Kobe kay Bowen" That's an all encompassing statement. If a great player is deserving of HOF, then someone who could stop a great player/future HOF by himself when others couldn't - I think that person/stopper deserves to be in the HOF di ba? Do you have the stats to back your claim (Everytime)? Kung meron dyan na ibang interpretation ng "basura si Kobe kay Bowen".paki mention na lang. Ano ngang sabi ni Jordan about Russell? When Russel claimed that he can defend MJ? I'm pretty sure Kobe would make it one of his personal accomplishments to any one who claims na basura sya. Anyway, back to Michael. He's the greatest in terms of competition. But in terms of class, I prefer John's speech. @webslinger, alam naman natin how bowen plays defense. he isn't the most athletic/talented defensive player but he is able to exert all the effort. He is able to guard almost everyone. He is even assigned to guard Dirk. -ganda ng logic mo...i never did said wlang pag asa si Bowen/ Dumars sa HOF...and never did i say that hindi sila magiging deserving...putting words in somebody's mouth eh? -yan ang wish ko sanang manyari...with Kobe's attitude...sana lang gawin nya yan...in front of people -what you've said about MJ's case vs Russell is definitely way way out of the context...hindi Basura si Russell kay MJ...SH*T xa mag defend kay MJ... :thumbsupsmiley: Edited September 17, 2009 by ungas143 Quote Link to comment
hondacaptiva Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 mayabang talaga si jordan. dapat bawiin yung award sa kanya....mas maganda pa binigay na lang award kay scottie pippen. period! Quote Link to comment
VinceThePrince Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 Halos lahat naman ng player may yabang sa katawan e kahit konti... Ok lang na mayabang si Jordan kahit konti kasi may ipagyayabang naman sya talaga e... Quote Link to comment
complicated8 Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 -ganda ng logic mo...i never did said wlang pag asa si Bowen/ Dumars sa HOF...and never did i say that hindi sila magiging deserving...putting words in somebody's mouth eh?-yan ang wish ko sanang manyari...with Kobe's attitude...sana lang gawin nya yan...in front of people -what you've said about MJ's case vs Russell is definitely way way out of the context...hindi Basura si Russell kay MJ...SH*T xa mag defend kay MJ... :thumbsupsmiley:Did I say na yun ang sinabi mo? Ang sabi ko lang logical to assume that a stopper of a HOF deserves to be in the HOF. MJ is the greatest. If there was someone out there that could stop MJ, I think he should be in the HOF too. Out of context in Russell vs MJ? I took that from the speech. Connect the right dots, please Meron ba mention of basura? Ang sinabi ko lang was that Russell claimed that he could guard MJ (according to MJ's speech). If Kobe was basura to Bowen as you posted, I said Kobe would probably as vindictive to Bowen as MJ was to Russell - no relation to basura of Russel/MJ. Quote Link to comment
Guest megalodon Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 Did I say na yun ang sinabi mo? Ang sabi ko lang logical to assume that a stopper of a HOF deserves to be in the HOF. MJ is the greatest. If there was someone out there that could stop MJ, I think he should be in the HOF too. Out of context in Russell vs MJ? I took that from the speech. Connect the right dots, please Meron ba mention of basura? Ang sinabi ko lang was that Russell claimed that he could guard MJ (according to MJ's speech). If Kobe was basura to Bowen as you posted, I said Kobe would probably as vindictive to Bowen as MJ was to Russell - no relation to basura of Russel/MJ.In the games I've watched Kobe play against The Karate Kid Bowen, Kobe almost always dominated Bowen. Just my observation. Quote Link to comment
skeezo2 Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 Don't wait for the next MJ coz there's only one....Let Kobe and Lebron make their own legacy. No doubt "His Airness" is the greatest basketball player ever lived! Quote Link to comment
Bolj Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 Did I say na yun ang sinabi mo? Ang sabi ko lang logical to assume that a stopper of a HOF deserves to be in the HOF. MJ is the greatest. If there was someone out there that could stop MJ, I think he should be in the HOF too.Out of context in Russell vs MJ? I took that from the speech. Connect the right dots, please Meron ba mention of basura? Ang sinabi ko lang was that Russell claimed that he could guard MJ (according to MJ's speech). If Kobe was basura to Bowen as you posted, I said Kobe would probably as vindictive to Bowen as MJ was to Russell - no relation to basura of Russel/MJ.-look at the original post...ang layu ng pinuntahan ng usapan...dahil sa mga HOF na sinabi mo... -yes out of the real context...ang layu ng situation ni MJ/Russell kina KOBE and Bowen... anyway...Back to Topic...anybody wants to argue/debate that somebody is better than MJ in Total Complete Player Sense...Better Give-up that Somebody is not yet Born... Quote Link to comment
dallas316 Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 mayabang talaga si jordan. dapat bawiin yung award sa kanya....mas maganda pa binigay na lang award kay scottie pippen. period! period! LOL Quote Link to comment
webslinger Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 so wats d story bet. russell and jordan tuloy b ang laro???? wag n kayo mag away about jordan aminin n lng talaga n mahusay sya kaso may panapanahon ang player.... ngayun sina kobe, james and wade naman.... passing torch lng yan. after kobe si james and wade after nila may sisikat na naman n player... pero kanya kanyang legacy lng nga.... mostly wala talaga ma compare kay jordan kahit mag laro p ang anak nya iba ang diskarte ng mga player..... Quote Link to comment
Eddy Syet Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 Halos lahat naman ng player may yabang sa katawan e kahit konti... Ok lang na mayabang si Jordan kahit konti kasi may ipagyayabang naman sya talaga e... Amen Quote Link to comment
hondacaptiva Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 kung susuriin mabuti bagsak si jordan sa attitude....ang angas at yabang. buti pa si alvin patrimonio!!! 4 time mvp ng pba at nag retire na mababa pa din ang loob despite of various championships at awards low profile pa din! tsaka si patrimonio almost 10 championships nilaro niya eh si jordan? 6 championships lang! suuuuper yabang! Quote Link to comment
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