ricoyan Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 (edited) http://www.hondamakati.com.ph/Ver2/News&am...Submit=Features *Honda Automobiles NOT Compatible with E-10: Civic 1.6 VTEC11996 ~ 1998 Civic 1.5L (Group Fuel Injection, GFi)11996 ~ 1998 Civic 1.6L PGM-FI1993 ~ 1995 Civic 1.5L (Carbureted)1993 ~ 1996 Civic 1.2L (Carbureted)1992 ~ 1996 Civic 1.2L (Carbureted)1991 ~ 1992 City 1.5L (Group Fuel Injection, GFi)21998 ~ 1999 City 1.3L (Group Fuel Injection, GFi)21996 ~ 1999 City 1.3L (Carbureted)1996 ~ 1999 [Accord 2.2L1995 ~ 1997 Accord 2.0L1994 ~ 1997 O yan, pati HONDA Philippines na rin ang nadsabi na E10 will not work well with all cars. Edited August 4, 2009 by ricoyan Quote Link to comment
The_Blade Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 back to shell unleaded... di pala ok yung halo halo ng v power, blaze at ibpa.. they have to take down my tank and clean it.. cost me 1.9K for the labor sa casa. plus tapon yung 20 liters na halohalo..... i dont know how true, parang sinasabi nila "one fuel, eats the other" . pero ramdam talaga ang kaibahan ng 96 and up octane.. kupad ng 93. what can i do? baka ma void warranty ko. Quote Link to comment
The_Blade Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 ^^^nice info, how aboout yung ibang cars, toyota, nissan mitsubishi , hyundai ano di compatible or di recommended ang may 10% ethanol? Quote Link to comment
bengbangerz Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 the govt was really pushing the use of ethanol. dapat lang talaga may option ka kung mag non ethanol or ethanol mixed gasoline ka. Quote Link to comment
Robinthecat Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 (edited) nice argument here......and i've heard a lot said about E10...about it being good for fuel injected..even that it should even be ok for carbs....about mixing it with regular unleaded first....about technical ek ek.... So i'll only gives my 2 cents based on experience....i drive a nissan sentra manual 2000, carb....my brother drives a Honda Accord, fuel injected automatic but older model. I used to gas up on Shell unleaded regular only. When I noticed they had phased out reg unleaded and had no choice but to gas up on E10, my carb suddenly clogged up a lot. I can't do the mix thing since I only use Shell and they don't have reg unleaded anymore (unless there are stations that still have reg and i haven't seen them). I had to visit my mechanic twice in about 3 weeks because of this and my car, parang hirap huminga ever since. I had to change my fuel filetr daw. I talked with my bro and cousin and there comes all those arguments about E10. Anyway, my bro says that even though his accord's fuel injected, using E10 still caused some problems as it seems the fuel iniipon and dumi, sediments or whatever. So he uses Blaze now which he says doesn't have e10. So i bite, I go to petron, notice XCS is still without E10 and fill up 'Bruce' (my car). Lo and behold, I get back the old responsiveness, no more choking. I've been using XCS since. 95 octane. Hopefully i'll be able to buy a fuel injected drive by the time everything's on E10. But for now, just sharing my E10 experience. Edited August 16, 2009 by Robinthecat Quote Link to comment
Justiin13 Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 Extreme 97 ng seaoil Quote Link to comment
tragob182 Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 been using petron xcs for a long while..it performs good on my ride rather than extra unleaded..IMO Quote Link to comment
S14 Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 switching back to xcs for ethanol free fuel Quote Link to comment
cwebb04 Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 switching back to xcs for ethanol free fuel all of our fuel variants have E10. even if it's caltex gold, shell v-power or petron blaze.. Im using caltex silver.. Quote Link to comment
yanzmyk Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 I think misnomer kasi yun the higher octane rating, the faster the car goes. Parang sa computer na thinking the higher the clock speed, the faster the PC is. I think sa car, it just so happens na the cars na tumatanggap ng higher octane are also the ones na mabilis naman kasi talaga. It's got alot to do with the compression ratio of the car. Anyway, best to look at your car's manual kung ano pinaka ok na ilagay. As for me, I use Petron XCS with 10% Ethanol. Quote Link to comment
rakizta Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 caltex gold.....may taga linis kse ng cylinder head Quote Link to comment
JoshII Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 shell vpower - for long distance driving shell unleaded with 10% ethanol or simply shell unleaded - city driving Quote Link to comment
bong.a Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 unleaded, i usually load from seaoil sa san juan. fyi lang, seaoil sa may san juan coliseum sells at least 2pesos cheaper per liter. Tuloy pati yung filoil and caltex beside them had to match the price. Quote Link to comment
peterparker Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 (edited) Petron Extra Unleaded E10 :mtc: Edited September 6, 2009 by peterparker Quote Link to comment
kempaf Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 (edited) i use unleaded be it seaoil, shell, caltex, petron but it depends on who is much cheaper when fueling in... pare-pareho lang naman yata sila eh, presyo lang ang dipirinsiya... and the other car is premium and again who is much cheaper, wins... Edited September 7, 2009 by kempaf Quote Link to comment
carding23 Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 SHELL SUPER UNLEADED...For better mileage!! Quote Link to comment
cupidbabe Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 petron xcs... I can use my sm advantage pa =) earning points =) Quote Link to comment
S14 Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadl...r-enginesPetron Quote Link to comment
bengbangerz Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 ayan na yung article. http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadl...r-enginesPetron Oil refiner and retailer Petron Corp. has warned that the current ethanol-blended gasoline (E-10) could damage car engines and urged the Department of Energy to come up with clearer specifications for the fuel blend. Petron chair and chief executive Ramon S. Ang said they had received many reports that the current blend is “highly corrosive.” According to Ang, the company wrote the DoE last month requesting new guidelines to help protect motorists. The Philippine Daily Inquirer was unable to get a comment from the DoE as of presstime. The E10 blend is still being sold in gasoline stations. Ang said in a briefing that the alcohol mixed with gasoline could do much damage to a car’s gas tank, fuel pump, carburetor and fuel injector, among others. The problem, he said, was that the government did not specify that there should be a dehydrator to remove the water content, which is what makes the ethanol-blended gasoline (E10) highly corrosive. “That’s why Petron wrote to the DoE. If we push E10, we have to prepare the correct specifications to prevent damage to cars,” Ang explained. “Right now, the DoE together with the industry is formulating the specifications and the guidelines. They are studying it. What we are saying here is based on the experience of motorists and our own experience as well,” Ang said. Under the Biofuels Law, all oil companies are mandated to pre-blend 5 percent ethanol in gasoline-fueled vehicles starting February 2009 and increase this to 10 percent by 2011. Most of the oil companies began pre-blending 10 percent ethanol in their gasoline products as early as 2008, way ahead of the mandate of the law. In a separate phone interview, Petron president Eric O. Recto said the company was still “in the middle of collating data to help the industry understand the potential impact of ethanol (on vehicles).” “We have empirical evidence coming from all over but we’re not done with the information gathering—a few more weeks or a month maybe to complete (it)... ethanol has certain negative effects on car engines,” Recto said. He noted that the move is an initiative of Petron, but was something they thought would benefit the rest of the oil industry. “Let me put it this way, there are pluses and minuses in using ethanol and we just want to make sure that both sides are studied and heard first,” Recto said. Quote Link to comment
X3ME15 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 i hate to say this but "I told you so" as long as car manufacturers doesn't specify their vehicle engines as E10 compatible, don't force to run it using E10.. the little you save on fuel will negate on the cost of repairs once your engine (including components) breaks down Quote Link to comment
fruzzy Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 caltex silver cause of hsbc rebate. i know this is off the topic pero di ko mahanap un thread eh. Is 10% ethanol, biofuel, e10, whatever you call it is bad to the engine, spark plugs, and electric system of the car? Quote Link to comment
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