dragonei Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Hmmm so tuloy na nga? Sana naman accurate balita na yan. Sana me iba pang sources para matapos na yung doubts. Anyway reading both articles I think mas accurate balita ng inquirer. After all ito latest di ba? Ako din naniniwala that it is most likely that matutuloy laban. Unang una, wala naman mahahanap si Franklin Gacal na ibang laban kung saan kikita yung kliente nya ng ganun kalaki. Kung tatangihan nila hatton, sino lalabanan nila? Kung di rin lang si Mayweather eh di sayang lang. Sayang ng mawawalang pera at kikitain. Pangalawa I understand na nagtatakutan na magdemanda campo ni Hatton? Kahit pa di yan matuloy sa korte, yung aregluhan nyan will be a pain in the ass even for Franklin Gacal. Simple lang yan, pag kumuha sila ng kalaban na ayaw panoorin ng tao, wala silang PPV subscription at lalong mas wala silang kikitain. Quote Link to comment
wizard23 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 accdg to Phil Star, Pacquiao still insists on a 60-40 split. http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?Artic...ubCategoryId=69 Quote Link to comment
o0onapstero0o Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Sa mga nabasa ko here and there, pumayag na si Manny sa 50-50 na hatian after ipaliwanag ni bob arum sa kanya ang figures. Pero sumingit nanaman si Gacal at ngayon nagmamatigas uli si manny sa 60-40. Hay buhay. Ngayon if Gacal will advise Manny na magmatigas sa 60-40 or hanap sila ng ibang makakalaban, sana nga meron silang mahanap na kasing lucrative din. good if mayweather will decide to come out of retirement and fight him. Otherwise sino pa pwede kalabanin ni manny na magkakaroon ng revenue na 60 million dollars at least? exactly my point. at one time PacMan was Ok for the 50-50 share tpos hindi pumayag then demanding for a 60-40 or even 65-35, then OK ulit tapos ngyn hindi na naman... Unprofessional on their part? maybe. Greedy? maybe. 60-40 is just too much in my opinion. BTW, by PacMan it means Pacquiao's Camp as a whole be it Roach, Gacal or even Manny himself. Quote Link to comment
o0onapstero0o Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 @The_Blade, 50-50 man i hindi.. sana matuloy yung laban.. pero mas pabor ako mas malaki kikitain ni manny... atlast, nagtugma din ang opiniion naten. Manny will definitely get the higher cut here kahit sabihing 50-50 ang share nila. maybe Arum's share will be lessen. Plus the fact na kahati ni Manny ang Solar/GMA di ba? Sana nga matuloy para hindi na mahirap makausap si Mayweather for a match w/c by the way, lubog na din ata sa utang ngayn! hehe Kung magkaroon man ng Pacquiao vs. Mayweather fight. magandang discussions na nman yan! hehehe Peace brothers. I'm not a Pacquiao hater as a guy Pm'd me and tagging me w/ that alias. HINDI PO AKO GALIT KAY PACMAN. GALIT AKO SA MGA GINAGAWA NIYA OUT OF BOXING AT SA PAGDIKIT NIYA SA MGA TRAPO NG BAYAN DAHIL DITO NAAAPEKTUHAN ANG DESISYON NA SA BOXING. YUN LNG PO. :thumbsupsmiley: Quote Link to comment
dragonei Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 exactly my point. at one time PacMan was Ok for the 50-50 share tpos hindi pumayag then demanding for a 60-40 or even 65-35, then OK ulit tapos ngyn hindi na naman... Unprofessional on their part? maybe. Greedy? maybe. 60-40 is just too much in my opinion. BTW, by PacMan it means Pacquiao's Camp as a whole be it Roach, Gacal or even Manny himself. Well talagang ganyan. I think lahat naman tayo gusto matuloy ang pacquiao-hatton bout. Madali sa atin ang magsalita gayong di naman tayo ang nakakabasa ng terms and condition. Ang kelangan na lang gawin ng campo ni pacquiao trabaho nila ng tama. Kung ayaw nila laban si Hatton dahil naliliitan sila sa partehan eh di sana nga makahanap sila ng ibang kalaban na kung saan kikita din ito ng $60 million. At sana bigyan pa din tayong mga fight fans ng magandang match up. Kung hindi siguradong walang magsusubscribe Sa tingin ko other than hatton ang possible lang dito would be Mayweather Jr. pero very uncertain pa kung gusto nga talagang lumaban si Mayweather. At kung sakali man, matagal pa yun, so matagal na nakatennga si Manny. Hindi pwede si Cotto, Margarito, at Marquez dahil lahat sila ay me mga laban na. Di rin pwede si Valero, dahil wala siyang lisensya lumaban sa Las Vegas. Sabi ni Arum pag di matuloy yung kay hatton, baka si Humberto Sotto na lang ang kalabanin ni Manny for a guaranteed $2 Million. Kahit pa 90-10 hatian nila in favor of manny sigurado akong walang gusto makapanood ng laban na ito Quote Link to comment
o0onapstero0o Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Well talagang ganyan. I think lahat naman tayo gusto matuloy ang pacquiao-hatton bout. Madali sa atin ang magsalita gayong di naman tayo ang nakakabasa ng terms and condition. Ang kelangan na lang gawin ng campo ni pacquiao trabaho nila ng tama. Kung ayaw nila laban si Hatton dahil naliliitan sila sa partehan eh di sana nga makahanap sila ng ibang kalaban na kung saan kikita din ito ng $60 million. At sana bigyan pa din tayong mga fight fans ng magandang match up. Kung hindi siguradong walang magsusubscribe Sa tingin ko other than hatton ang possible lang dito would be Mayweather Jr. pero very uncertain pa kung gusto nga talagang lumaban si Mayweather. At kung sakali man, matagal pa yun, so matagal na nakatennga si Manny. Hindi pwede si Cotto, Margarito, at Marquez dahil lahat sila ay me mga laban na. Di rin pwede si Valero, dahil wala siyang lisensya lumaban sa Las Vegas. Sabi ni Arum pag di matuloy yung kay hatton, baka si Humberto Sotto na lang ang kalabanin ni Manny for a guaranteed $2 Million. Kahit pa 90-10 hatian nila in favor of manny sigurado akong walang gusto makapanood ng laban na ito eto nga ang kinakatakot ko eh... baka sa huli walang magandang makalaban si Pacman dahil sa mga demands ng camp niya... kaya ko din nasabi na Greedy siya/sila dahil na din dito. kung hindi nga matuloy ang laban ni PacMan at Hitman eh malamang mas liliit pa ang kikitain nila kasi hindi ganun ka sikat si Sotto compared to Hitman at ang hirap pa dito eh baka yun pa ang makatalo sa knya. Quote Link to comment
jerzz Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 (edited) Sabi ni Arum pag di matuloy yung kay hatton, baka si Humberto Sotto na lang ang kalabanin ni Manny for a guaranteed $2 Million. Kahit pa 90-10 hatian nila in favor of manny sigurado akong walang gusto makapanood ng laban na ito From atleast $15M to $2M baka magkagalit galit niyan sila Arum, Roach at Pacman at mga abogado niya. Estimate kasi nila $60M ang kikitain minus tax & other cuts = $15M each Lets wait and see na lang but by demanding so much medyo matu turn off sa kanya mga foreign boxing fans Edited January 16, 2009 by jerzz Quote Link to comment
jerzz Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 eto nga ang kinakatakot ko eh... baka sa huli walang magandang makalaban si Pacman dahil sa mga demands ng camp niya... kaya ko din nasabi na Greedy siya/sila dahil na din dito. kung hindi nga matuloy ang laban ni PacMan at Hitman eh malamang mas liliit pa ang kikitain nila kasi hindi ganun ka sikat si Sotto compared to Hitman at ang hirap pa dito eh baka yun pa ang makatalo sa knya. Parang si Juan Manuel Marquez dati ayaw pumayag ng rematch kay Manny worth $750,000 dahil gusto $1.5M tapos lumaban kay Chris John for a mere $30,000 tapos talo pa Quote Link to comment
The_Blade Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 gacal doesnt care about the actual net purse and it's not about greediness. it's a matter of prestige ... sino ba kina manny at hatton ang mas pogi sa boxing ngayun? one thing na sure sa laban na to ay both fighers will earn way more than their recent fights. Quote Link to comment
djrs Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Parang si Juan Manuel Marquez dati ayaw pumayag ng rematch kay Manny worth $750,000 dahil gusto $1.5M tapos lumaban kay Chris John for a mere $30,000 tapos talo pa laugh.gif I know this... hehehe. as in natawa ako kay JMM kasi dapat may rematch kagad pero ayaw ni JMM ayun natalo kay Chris John! hahaha. pero iba na kasi setup ngayon number 1 na si pacman e.. kahit sino makakalaban nya sigurado ko may pera... hehehehe. may chance na si mayweather kasi may problem na financially si PBF kasi puro yabang.. dami mahal na car... hehehehe. pero still mas pabor ako na mas mataas makuha ni Manny dahil sya ang alpha male ngayon sa boxing... Quote Link to comment
ray004 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 for all we know gimik na naman ito sa kampo ni pacman..as always! Quote Link to comment
conway44 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 I dont want Pacquiao to be greedy... Money should not be an issue here but instead he should look for the prestige of beating great boxers. Money should not be the primary reason for the cancellation of pacquiao-hatton fight. Quote Link to comment
photographer Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Ultimatum for Hatton By Joaquin Henson Updated January 17, 2009 12:00 AM British brawler Ricky Hatton isn’t as marketable as he insists he is, even in his homeland. That’s the word from a boxing expert, who declined to be identified, in analyzing if a 50-50 split is a fair deal as negotiations for a fight between Hatton and Manny Pacquiao are bogging down because of a numbers disagreement. Hatton’s group is insisting on a 50-50 split on all revenues generated by the proposed fight in Las Vegas on May 2. Pacquiao’s position is 60-40 in his favor. “Hatton sells depending on his opponent,” said the expert. “When he fought (Paul) Malignaggi, the fight sold only anywhere between 70,000 to 200,000 pay-per-view hits in the UK compared to nearly a million in the (Floyd) Mayweather fight. That shows you even the English fans aren’t too hot on Hatton alone. They’ll buy only if Hatton’s opponent is a big name like Mayweather. So Hatton needs Pacquiao to draw even in the UK.” Apparently, Top Rank chairman Bob Arum committed the 50-50 split to Hatton without consulting Pacquiao. Arum is now in a bind because Pacquiao is standing firm on 60-40. Hatton’s camp was made to understand that Pacquiao had approved the 50-50 split and is now up in arms after finding out the Filipino is holding out for 60-40. In the US, the Hatton-Malignaggi fight brought in only 175,000 to 200,000-way below the pay-per-view figures that Pacquiao generates, whomever he fights. Against Oscar de la Hoya last November, Pacquiao drew over a million subscribers. “The figures will show that it’s Pacquiao who brings in the money, not Hatton,” said the expert. “Under the circumstances, it’s inconceivable for a 50-50 split because that would be totally unfair to Pacquiao.” Arum gave Pacquiao a deadline to agree to terms this week but the likelihood is there will be no signing unless Hatton gives in. “It’s all up to Hatton,” said the expert. “Pacquiao will bring in the dollars. Hatton should know that. Nobody else out there can push the pay-per-view numbers higher than Manny.” Pacquiao said he has given the Hatton camp up to Feb. 1 to come to terms. If there is no agreement, he said he wouldn’t be interested to fight Hatton anymore, now or in the future. Meanwhile, lawyer Franklin (Jeng) Gacal said he will try to convince Pacquiao to accept a compromise split but the sharing must be a “substantial movement” from 50-50. “This involves all income,” said Gacal who is in constant contact with Arum. “As for the guaranteed purses, my lips are sealed. We only want the best deal for Manny.” Gacal said Pacquiao will definitely not fight Hatton on a 50-50 split. “A substantial movement will help me convince him,” he added. Gacal’s hint opened the door for a compromise settlement but it was made clear that unless Pacquiao has a larger share than Hatton, the fight is off. Pacquiao said if Hatton refuses to budge, he will look for another opponent to fill the May 2 slot. Asked if Floyd Mayweather Jr. could be a possible replacement, Pacquiao replied, “maybe.” Quote Link to comment
wizard23 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 can't blame MP, me swagger na kasi sya so he can now demand. it's his bragging rights. time for Hatton to bend. Quote Link to comment
howarddeduct Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Lalo yatang yumayabang si Pacman. . . :hypocritesmiley: Quote Link to comment
jerzz Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 mukhang hindi na lalaban si Pacquiao sa 50/50. mapapahiya na siya kung lalaban pa siya. i guess time for the hatton camp to offer a 55/45 purse split Quote Link to comment
djrs Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 sino ba nakapanuod ng Hatton vs. Malignaggi? meron ako copy nyan hindi tagalized! hehehehe. yung sinasabi nila na mapupuno yung wembley stadium? hindi naman sold out yung laban ni hatton kay magic man! tapos mag mamalaki sila na mapupuno? yes mapupuno nila dahil bigtime boxer ang makakalaban nya si manny (kung matutuloy) panahon na ni pacman para sya naman ang mas malaki ang cut.. kung umayaw si Hatton sigurado ko mas malaki mawawala sa kanya... dahil mas maraming humahabol kay pacman... dahil mas may pera kay pacman... para kang naka jackpot pag kinalaban ka ni pacman... Quote Link to comment
anton7270me Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Lalo yatang yumayabang si Pacman. . . :hypocritesmiley: :thumbsdownsmiley: :grr: Dahandahan ka sa comment mo pre ....... & better to read something about "RESPECT" - to the Real Man. :evil: Quote Link to comment
anton7270me Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 I dont want Pacquiao to be greedy... Money should not be an issue here but instead he should look for the prestige of beating great boxers. Money should not be the primary reason for the cancellation of pacquiao-hatton fight. Common man! How many times ba qualifications mo to be come "Most Exciting & #1 Pound per Pound Boxer"? Last TWO FIGHTS ..... TODO nato! :thumbsupsmiley: Quote Link to comment
o0onapstero0o Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Parang si Juan Manuel Marquez dati ayaw pumayag ng rematch kay Manny worth $750,000 dahil gusto $1.5M tapos lumaban kay Chris John for a mere $30,000 tapos talo pa Yun na nga eh... what if Hatton's camp didn't bite that 60-40 split? sino makakalaban niya si Sotto? w/ a guaranteed $2M daw. di ba mas maliit pa din? plus si Manny lng ang papanuodin dito... win or lose walang mawawala kay Sotto pero pagnatalo si Manny ng isang not so famous mexican. Nakup! delubyo. atleast kay Hatton pwedeng UK vs. Phils! hehehe the best fighter of both country maglalaban. Plus on the line pa ang nelt ni Hatton di ba? khit hindi gaanong pinapansin yun magandang collection yun for PacMan. Quote Link to comment
wizard23 Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 personally, kahit me bragging rights na si manny, he should have considered the 50-50 split dahil di naman literal yun. ang alam ko 50-50 sila sa PPV sa UK dahil credit na rin ke hatton ang million ppvs from uk pag natuloy ang laban nila. magkatalo na lang dapat sa guaranteed purse dun sa labanan. ganon ang pagkaintindi ko. i stand corrected kung mali. Quote Link to comment
ray004 Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 i don't think si pacquiao may problem..yung mga nakapaligid sa kanya! Quote Link to comment
monaco Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Reasonable lang naman yung 60-40 na demand ni Pacman. He is the higher ranked after all. Quote Link to comment
conway44 Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Common man! How many times ba qualifications mo to be come "Most Exciting & #1 Pound per Pound Boxer"? Last TWO FIGHTS ..... TODO nato! :thumbsupsmiley: C'mon not common... What do you mean by how many times? Ayoko lang ng GREEDY... Quote Link to comment
howarddeduct Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 :thumbsdownsmiley: :grr: Dahandahan ka sa comment mo pre ....... & better to read something about "RESPECT" - to the Real Man. :evil::thumbsdownsmiley: :grr: Dahandahan ka sa pag react mo pre ...... kaya nga nilagay ko ng "yata" iyong comment ko. :evil: Quote Link to comment
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