plush Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Hypocrisy abounds in superfight fiasco http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news;_ylt=AruF...o&type=lgns Quote Link to comment
wizard23 Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 (edited) ^ taken from the article above so i can comment on it. No one in this mess looks good. Pacquiao created much of it himself by simply refusing to accede to the testing, which would include random blood and urine draws. If Pacquiao had agreed, the fight would be signed and he wouldn’t be complaining that his reputation has been damaged. ****************** so it's not only gayweather's fault. it's a simple blood testing. the issue here is the random thing. but it's really psychological. you don't get weak by letting out a spoonful of blood. i really hope that when push comes to shove, Manny Pacquiao will finally give in to floyd's request because if MP agrees finally to floyd's demands and floyd comes up with another additional requirement, then you can be sure, that gayweather is ducking it and the projected superfight won't really push through. Edited December 30, 2009 by wizard23 Quote Link to comment
magtatah0ng Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 The idea that Pac "refused to be tested" came from Golden Boy's press release and it's being repeated everywhere I look in the media and in forums. Apparently it is now in everybody's mind even though it's not true. I heard Oscar deleted his blog post because it makes him liable in the defamation lawsuit. Schaefer did some damage control by saying that Pac did agree to the blood test, and that it is only the cutoff date that is being negotiated. But the damage has been done to the man's name and everybody is now saying (erroneously) that Pac "refused to be tested". He has a very strong case. Who knows, if they agree to a testing schedule and the fight pushes through, he could end up taking Golden Boy and Pretty Boy's money if he proceeds with the lawsuit. Quote Link to comment
KingCrab777 Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 o ayan nag pa test na si pacman kanina. that should end the discussion. ano naman kaya next condition ni Duwagboy Floyd? baka gusto niya sa sala ng bahay niya gawin yung laban? hindi naman kaya na set-up yung bata natin? baka maging positive sa lambanog patay tayo dyan? game na!!!!! laban na!! wala na madaming usapan. ituloy na yan para malampaso na ang walang bayag!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment
KingCrab777 Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 di naman lumilitaw steroids kung ngayon papa test si pakman dapat sa gabi ng laban at after the fight.eh yung Nevada Athletic Commission naman nagsabing ganun ang test di ba? before and after pero urine test pwede. may pamahiin nga si pacman sa blood test eh. after siguro ok lang. kasi naman sa tinagal tagal pinaguusapan ito bakit at this stage of the fight calendar pa nag dadakdak si Wagdu Floyd? dami eche bureche. aminin nalang na atras yagbols na siya!!!!!!! baka nasa lalamunan niya yagbols niya nalunok kaya iisa nalang!!!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Quote Link to comment
pits_of_jairo Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 dapat me counter din si pakman vs gayweather abangan.Siguro ang magiging counter ni Pac dito is to sue those people talking smack about him. For sure matatalo sa case ang kampo ni Mayweather at magbabayad sila ng Danyos Perwisyos (is that correct?) kay Pac. Then itutuloy ang laban kasi broke na si Gayweather and gugulpihin naman siya ng husto ni Pac. Pwede! Quote Link to comment
denimhead Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 a good read and radio interview ... on the pacman - mayweather hoopla D Source Quote Link to comment
chicboy18 Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Still I'm doubting that this whole fiasco is just a way to setup the mega-fight. They're making it "Now it's personal" angle. Because why would Arum pick Malignaggi to replace Mayweather where in fact, Malignaggi is one of those boxers who publicly suggests that Pac is on the juice? Why isn't he part of the lawsuit? Mas grabe pa nga mga hirit ni Malignaggi eh. Anyways, I think Schaefer and Arum thought that they can squeeze even more money if Pacquiao fights Malignaggi first and Mayweather fights Matthew Hatton first before the mega-fight. Well it's just a thought though. Quote Link to comment
don juan casanova Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 ANALYZE THIS! Floyd - Jr.- sued by 50Cent for money owed.- throws money in strip club.- IRS IS waiting for Floyd to pay his debt.- SELF PROCLAIMED.- 5 TITLES IN 6 DIVISIONS.- DUCKER!- car is linked on Vegas shooting.Sr.- went to jail for illegal drugs.Uncle - pending case for battering a woman (A WOMAN??)WOW! THIS FAMILY IS PRETTY MESSED UP! GOD first - Pacquiao- Prays before and after the fight for HIM and for hisOPPONENT that no fatal will happen during the fight.- shares his blessings/money to poor win or lose.- WARRIOR!- HUMBLE.- FRIENDLY.- 7 TITLE IN 7 DIVISIONS. Now accused of steroids by the NOTORIOUS FAMILY and some CLOWNSout there are buying the story from this MESSED UP family. PICK YOUR SIDE! Quote Link to comment
wizard23 Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 ^ well good points out there don juan casanova. though i believe most MP fans know the truth and we are not really swayed into believing gayweather's accusations. it's just so hard to believe that gayweather will try to evade this superfight when obviously he needs money more than MP!!! Quote Link to comment
barrysaint Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Lampaso sigurado si no yag-bols floyd, jr!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment
plush Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Arum ruled out malignaggi as the alternative opponent and instead wants yuri foreman. lets get it on! id love to see an 8th title! Quote Link to comment
wizard23 Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 maybe both camps will come to their senses and will work out a compromise deal in spite of pacquiao's suing the camp of gayweather. this multimillion dollar fight is too good to pass up and it will have a negative impact on both fighters if it doesn't push through. Quote Link to comment
Brownman Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 This fight is going to happen besides all the crap that has been going on...too much money and reputation at stake! Quote Link to comment
barrysaint Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 duwag pa rin si Floyd, Jr.!!!!!! matutuloy lang ito kung finally lumaban siya. ginawa na lahat ni pacman ang pwede. hindi na unreasonable and stand ng kampo ng pilipino. PACMAN IS STILL THE MAN!!!!! GO PACMAN!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment
hardtohandle Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 What Dana White thinks about this whole hoolabaloo: http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/White-Chi...ayweather-21782 Quote Link to comment
barrysaint Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 What Dana White thinks about this whole hoolabaloo: http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/White-Chi...ayweather-21782i agree with most of the things said. spoiled na kasi ang boxers. and its the promoters and the 'syndicates' that are spoling them. Pacman is really the exception to the boxers today. real talent, true determination, fighting heart only found in the boxers 3 or more decades ago. yung iba puro ingay, dakdak at PR lang. Quote Link to comment
kleptome Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Still I'm doubting that this whole fiasco is just a way to setup the mega-fight. They're making it "Now it's personal" angle. Because why would Arum pick Malignaggi to replace Mayweather where in fact, Malignaggi is one of those boxers who publicly suggests that Pac is on the juice? Why isn't he part of the lawsuit? Mas grabe pa nga mga hirit ni Malignaggi eh. Anyways, I think Schaefer and Arum thought that they can squeeze even more money if Pacquiao fights Malignaggi first and Mayweather fights Matthew Hatton first before the mega-fight. Well it's just a thought though. Naunahan mo ako. Exactly my thoughts... GRUDGE Match! yebah! :thumbsupsmiley: +1 Quote Link to comment
jerzz Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Mayweather is unusually quiet about this fight Quote Link to comment
barrysaint Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Mayweather is unusually quiet about this fighthanapin niyo sa ilalalim ng saya ng TATAY niya. nagtatago pa dahil call naman si Pacman sa Nevada ruling sa drug test eh di takot nanaman siya lalo. DUWAG NA WALANG HIYANG PURO DAKDAK. BIGYAN NG ISANG MATINDI NALANG NI PACMAN SA NGALA-NGALA YANG HINAYUPAK NA YAN NG MATAHIMIK!!!!!! Quote Link to comment
jerzz Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 nananahimik na nga hehehe Quote Link to comment
howarddeduct Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 nagcoconsult kaya sa lawyer? Quote Link to comment
jerzz Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 nagcoconsult kaya sa lawyer? mag consult sila kay Gacal Quote Link to comment
howarddeduct Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Baka naman nagpapractice ng sayaw? Iyon naman ang gagawin ni gayweather sa laban nila. Quote Link to comment
wizard23 Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Pacquiao May Have Destroyed Floyd’s CareerPublished by Scoop Malinowski on January 1st, 2010 Without landing a punch, Manny Pacquiao might have destroyed the career of Floyd Mayweather. Reported to be short on money and options, Floyd Mayweather’s career may be in peril. HBO is not going to spend multi-millions for any more of Floyd’s garbage fights. HBO surely cannot be pleased as the network was very very eager and excited to stage Pacquiao-Mayweather I and II. Everybody in the boxing world should realize Floyd has a horrible bargaining position now. The next rumored handpick Matthew Hatton should realize he can call the shots. Matthew Hatton should know, like everyone knows, Floyd has inflicted irreparable damage to himself and his reputation with his actions over the last few weeks. Matthew Hatton should be aware of the fact that Floyd and Golden Boy want to use him as a sacrificial lamb, as they seek to try to cash in with Floyd in the U.K. next, because they know Floyd is and never was an attraction, on his own, in the U.S. Matthew Hatton is holding all the cards actually, as there is no other name welterweight or junior welters based in the U.K. to serve up to Floyd and Golden Boy as a sparring partner for the sparring session Golden Boy and Floyd will try to sell the the U.K. public for no doubt top pound prices, as Golden Boy will want to recoup many of the millions it lost by having to support Floyd’s astonishing (to some) chicken-out of the $40 million-plus payday (or $60 million – don’t forget rematch clauses) which would have come on March 14 for the Pacquiao fight. Matthew Hatton can really play hardball with Golden Boy and Floyd, if he’s sharp and saavy enough. Or Matthew Hatton could allow himself to be used a cheap sparring partner or punch bag, on the take for whatever kibbles and bits he can get from his masters. Matthew Hatton should also understand, Floyd really has nowhere else to go. We all saw how scared Floyd is of Shane Mosley. I guarantee Floyd will not going to fight a high-risk like Mosley next. And everyone should know Floyd would never in a million years step in a ring with Paul Williams or Joshua Clottey. Therefore Matthew Hatton is the carefully selected handpick. If Matthew Hatton is smart and saavy and his own man – and not under the complete control of Golden Boy – he should demand 50-50% parity with Floyd, as Matthew Hatton can say he is the draw in England and since Floyd shamed himself as a coward by ducking Pacquiao, Floyd has to regain his credibility with the public at his own expense and not Matthew Hatton’s expense. But then again, Matthew Hatton might be under complete total control of whatever Golden Boy wants to use him for. All of the boxing world must know that Floyd Mayweather is not in position to call the shots anymore. He has reported money problems. He has to be worrying about the potentially devastating lawsuit that’s coming. His public approval rating has plummeted – and it was never very high to begin with. The truth is Richard Schaefer and Oscar are not in any position to make hefty demands on behalf of their diminishing valued asset of Floyd. Conversely, they are going to have to accept whatever they can get. Every potential opponent who is approached by Floyd, Haymon or Schaefer – to be used as a punching bag or cheap sparring partner – is in perfect position to play hardball. And the good news in this is that the harder Golden Boy, Schaefer, Haymon and Floyd find it to take advantage of the dumb, and to cash in on the foolish, the more likelyit will be possible for the Super Bowl of Boxing to take place later this year. Because by only making crumbs off Floyd, Golden Boy, will eventually turn against their house fighter. Instead of protecting and perpetuating the fraud everyone knows he is, Golden Boy will eventually conclude it must sacrifice Floyd to the wrathful fists of Pacquiao, in order to recoup the multi-millions it has lost by ducking out of March 13. But then again, there are really no guarantees anymore, as Pacquiao may not be in any charitable mood to do any favors for Floyd, who very possibly could have committed career suicide in late December 2009. Quote Link to comment
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