PacMan's Corner

[loidiman]

Congratulations to Manny!

 

For me, it's a very close fight to score...

 

i watched the fight again.. i had it 114-133 for JMM...

 

pretty close that if manny lost or JMM lost i will not complain...

 

but all in all, it was a very good fight!

[skitz]

Orange1,

 

I will no longer answer your post point on point. I think masyado ka ng mainit. You've already called me stupid. That's ok, I will let that pass.

 

SIMPLE fact. Ilang rounds, sa entire fight was SO CLOSE, that it came down to judges discretion? Answer that. Opinions are like assholes, everyone has got one. And as far as the rulebook goes, only the OPINION of 3 (the JUDGES) count. Naiintindhan mo ba yon? Kung ang decision ng 3 ay para kay JMM, we have no choice but accept it. Either play by the rules or don't play at all. Gets?

 

And I apologize for what you interpret as a racial racial discrimination against RN. That I called him a Sri Lankan, is a statement of fact. Nothing to it. That wasn't racial discrimination. If I call you Pinoy, is that racial discrimination?

 

That I called him s@%t, is also a statement of fact. This is the asslicker who once called Marcos the greatest president ever! Hahahaha... Furthermore, this crabhead has been trying to pull down Manny for the longest time. Even before Manny fought against Erik Morales. Ito ang naglabas ng tsismis na hindi na daw Pinoy si Manny, dahil green card holder na, na sugarol si Manny, na hindi nag-tre-training si Manny, etc. etc. Siguro hindi nabalutuan.

 

Ok, I will say something nice about RN. One time, it was PTV 4 who was official TV coverage of a sports event. I was working for a block-timer with RPN 9, and we were just there to cover it. But the thing is, I have developed this rapport with Ed Lasquete (remember him?), so I was FIRST to interview the guy after he had just won the pole vault event. PTV 4 was on live (we were to air the weekend). But RN gave way. In contrast, ABS-CBN assholes would have elbowed around me. Not RN. So, in that sense, he is a "nice" guy. But as far his crab tactics against Manny? f#&k him.

[webslinger]

bro. i have d same feelings w orange bro. im here in taiwan most dis stupid taiwanese think they r better than as pinoy.... hirap....

 

sa akin kung d napabagsak ni pacman si marquez talo sya dito..... beside bumawi si marquez kaso iba yung may knockout malaki ang puntos....

 

cool bro. he he he....

[0range1]

I have said enough about the fyt and will not go back and forth about it.

 

Re: Ronnie Nathanielz.

 

Yes, it is discrimination if you attack him by basis of his ethnic or national origin. This aspect has nothing to do with Boxing (our topic at hand), it is more of a low blow at personal attack.

 

If you wish to criticize RN, you can do so. I must say though that trying to discredit him by pointing out his origin is thinking backwards, and distasteful.

 

Discrimination is an attitude against another simply becos that person comes from somewhere else or belongs to another group. So you asking if a pinoy calling another pinoy is discriminatory? It is not. Same as black homies calling another 'niggers'. It is not the same for whites to call blacks "niggers' though right? That is the same with you calling RN Sri Lankan. That is simply racist and insulting, and of course we dont want to do that.

 

You will understand all of this when you go abroad and when you are discriminated yourself.

 

Now, I understand your comments against RN stemmed out from the rumours that he hurled against Manny. They may or may not be true.

 

Let me just say this, RN is a man who has done alot of contributions not only for Philippine Boxing, but also for the whole of Philippine Sports. He is an addition to the lack of sports contributors d2 satin. Hopefully, we stop alienating and treating him like second class.

 

He did an honest to goodness work on Paq-Marquez 2 anyway.

[djrs]

@Orange1

 

kinakampihan/pinaniniwalaan mo lang kasi eto e..

 

Donaire, Nathanielz, Recah Trinidad, Ring Magazine..

 

si donaire nga Gave Marquez the First Round e... 10-9 for Marquez!

 

ang nakakatawa pa dun e yung tatlong OFFICIAL JUDGE gave it 10-9 for MANNY!

 

tapos pinanood namin sa HBO-PPV at Solar Sports... sa HBO-PPV MALINIS NA PANALO SI Pacman sa Round 1 isa lang ang solid na suntok na pinasok ni JMM kay MP sa Round1 hahahahha...

 

Ika nga nung commentator sa HBO yung mga suntok ni JMM kay MP puro Half PUNCH na sa Glove lang tumatama then wala ng power pag tumama kay pacman...

 

 

ORANGE1=ROUND 1 mo diba kay Marquez? hahahahhahaha.

[jerzz]

tapos na yung jmm at mp

 

maski anong away pa gawin dito, panalo na si Manny hindi na mababago yun.

 

lets talk about diaz vs pacquiao

[0range1]

DJRS:

 

I have said enough about the fyt. It is nice to rehash all of these things again, pro sa tingin ko this has been dragged too far.

 

All I am saying is that JMM has made an overall nice performance that makes him more deserving of an immediate rematch. The results are disputed. I thought Marquez won. And the best that, JMM should get is another crack at Manny.

 

As a fan, I'd like to know who is the better fyter bet Manny and Juan. There is a demand for a 3rd fyt and I believe Marquez and a $6M offer is ready. C Pacman na lang ang hini hintay.

 

I have made it clear that I wasn't knocking Manny down. He won, it was a hard fought battle. I still am a fan, and I will continue to be a fan. My opinion is solely to see a 3rd fyt.

 

Also again, regarding Ronnie Nathanielz, you can choose to criticize him. You can do so. IF you do however, please let us not bring about racist comments. It would be a better discussion f things r talked on the context of Boxing, at wlang mga side comments na degrading.

Edited March 21, 2008 by 0range1

[djrs]

I thought Marquez won. And the best that, JMM should get is another crack at Manny.

 

Si RN nga lagi may Side comments e... hehehehehehhe.

pati nga si NINOY AQUINO binanatan nya din dati.. ehehehehhee.

 

ohh. and by the way this thread is about MP winning the fight..

 

maghintay ka lang mangyayari yun 3rd fight mo... after MP vs. Diaz..

 

then fight sila sa 135lbs..

 

-Di pa pala convincing na 4X bumagsak si JMM sa 24rounds nila..

 

-DI papala convincing na umamin na yung Judge nung Game 1 na nagkamali sa scoring..

 

-Di pa pala convincing na morethan 4X Low Blow(Hip-Shots) ang natanggap ni Pacman kay Marquez sa Last fight pero no point deduction!

 

-Di pa pala convincing sayo na Round 1 e KAY PACMAN according sa 3 OFFICIAL JUDGES? (i am willing to give you a copy of HBO bilangin mo kung ilan ang pumasok na suntok ni pacman! lamang na lamang sya sa rd.1)

 

-Di pa pala convincing na yung CUT ni Marquez sa Taas ng Mata e SUNTOK ni PACMAN! (i can prove it to you may CD

ako ng laban nila mas malinaw at kitang kita ang mga suntok)

 

-Di pa pala convincing yung 2nd Knockout na humawak sa ROPE si JMM nung 3rd Round e hindi nakita ni BAYLESS na dapat automatic 10-7 Round yun.

 

-Di pala convincing na ilang BESES din Na staggared si Marquez sa LABAN. pero si pacman 1-2X lang.

 

 

==

 

kasi ang convincing sayo siguro KO ni pacman si marquez.. alam mo naman kung gaano ka tindi conditioning ni Marquez duh?!

 

tanong ko sayo ano ba ang CONVINCING WIN sayo?

[pogi_cute]

manny should learn to be humble. overall, talo sya. wag sya masyadong mayabang. e wasak nga ang mukha nya e at masakit ang katawan nya di ba? he should just thank god na pinalusot sya.

[djrs]

@Orange1

 

eto basahin mo ha?

 

Click the link.

Why Castigate MP?

[djrs]

manny should learn to be humble. overall, talo sya. wag sya masyadong mayabang. e wasak nga ang mukha nya e at masakit ang katawan nya di ba? he should just thank god na pinalusot sya.

 

PROVE IT NA TALO SYA OVERALL. hahahahaha.

 

asan wasak na mukha?

 

nagyabang ba sya?

 

hindi GOD ang nagpalusot dyan..

 

kaya nga may OFFICIAL FIGHT JUDGES E.

 

another Manny HATER.

 

talo ka siguro sa pustahan.

Edited March 21, 2008 by djrs

[denizgonzalez]

Ok. This is a LEGITIMATE observation. But let me explain something. First let me tell you that I worked as a sports reporter/writer some time ago. And here is the thing. YOU HAVE TO BE THERE to know what really went on. Those "spectacular punches" by JMM? Might have looked good on TV, but may NOT have any power from the vantage point of a judge sitting by the ringside. This is PRO-BOXING. Scoring punches are worth dick. Judges look at how JMM/Manny reacted to the punches of the other. Damage report? JMM was on the brink of getting knocked-out. Sure, there was a brief time when Manny looked groggy too. But bottomline is, JMM was more damaged than Manny.

 

As for the "maraming naniniwala na si JMM nanalo", who gives a f#&k? This is not a democracy. The opinion of Recah Trinidad, Chino Trinidad, that assh*le sri-lankan trying to pass for a Filipino Nathanielsz ain't worth jack. Naniwala ba ang olympic body sa kanila when they protested Onyok being cheated? So why should we listen to these f#&kers now when they are doubting our own? As I've said before, only the opinion of 3, the judges, count. And 2 of 3 says Manny won. So tough, JMM fans. Crying a river about it ain't gonna help your boy any.

 

Rematch? Again, sure! Pero, pila si JMM sa back of the line. Manny calls the shots. JMM NEEDS Manny. Manny doesn't need JMM. To the Recah Trinidad's who think this is still an unfinished business, let them suit up, earn a boxing career for themselves, and fight JMM all day and all night. Mga miron lang ang mga ogag na ito. Bakit pakikinggan ni Manny sila? Will Recah pay Manny 5 M USD should Manny get permanently injured? t#ang%na. Ang dali magka-opinion. They (and for a time, me) got paid by the column inch to write opinions out of our asses. But hell no. I NEVER ventured to tell anybody how to manage their careers.

hmm.. it maybe true that u were a sports writer/reporter some time ago.

 

but u dont talk like one, so i doubt it

[denizgonzalez]

@skitz,

 

amen to that.. same view here. hehehehehe.

 

hindi maraming naniniwala na panalo si pacman... maraming naloko ng SOLAR SPORTS at commentator lalo na si donaire... at maraming SARADO isip...

 

imagine sa scorecards ng tatlong judge sa RD.1 10-9 lahat sila na panalo si Pacman sa Round 1! tapos dito dami nag post na Round 1 daw kay Marquez.

 

pero pag pinanood mo sa replay ng HBO-PPV ang linaw linaw si pacman ang panalo sa round 1... mas maraming pumasok na suntok na malakas ang pumasok. morethan 10! kay marquez lesthan 10.

sarado isip.. hmm.. i wonder about that hehe

 

kaming mga ngssbi na nanalo si marquez tanggap namin na panalo si pacman kc msyadong close ang fight

 

kayong mga loyal supporters ni pacman hindi matanggap na may ngssbing pinoy na panalo si marquez ^^

[Eddy Syet]

@Orange1

 

eto basahin mo ha?

 

Click the link.

Why Castigate MP?

 

Just finished reading it! Nice! Pacquiao haters should read this! :thumbsupsmiley:

 

to quote some:

 

- First, the record will establish that both Pacquiao and Marquez gave their thumbs-up on the three judges who were assigned by the Nevada State Athletic Commission.

 

- Pacquiao, being the aggressor, threw more blows, 619 to 511 or a huge difference of 108. Some judges give a lot of credit to aggressiveness because after all, boxing is a combative sport.

 

- Third, the judges’ scorecards didn’t show major disparities. They scored the first round for Pacquiao – which The STAR did, too. They also scored the third, fourth and 10th for the Filipino. Additionally, they were unanimous in scoring the second, fifth, seventh, eighth and 11th rounds for Marquez.

 

- From the scorecards, it’s clear that the difference was in the knockdown that Pacquiao produced in the third round because it meant a 10-8 count or a two-point cushion. In a close bout, a knockdown could be the decider and it was in last Saturday’s fight.

 

- Don’t forget that Pacquiao should’ve won the first meeting by a split decision four years ago... So if you really think about it, Pacquiao has effectively beaten Marquez twice.

 

- Marquez is a tough opponent and because of his style, will always be difficult for Pacquiao to handle.

 

- There are so many other “could’ves” to cite but the fact is two of the three judges scored it for Pacquiao and he won, fair and square. Pacquiao earned the victory because he fought with the bigger heart, came back strong in the late rounds and every Filipino should be proud of his achievement in becoming the first Asian to win three world titles in different divisions. He bled for every one of his countrymen, he took Marquez’ hardest shots without backing down. You couldn’t ask anything more from a hero.

 

Very well said by Quinito "The Dean" Henson :thumbsupsmiley:

[MRyoso]

what do you guys mean when you say haters or blind followers?

 

ang definition ko kasi e yung hindi marunong mag acccept ng opinions ng iba at pumuputak ng parang hindi edukadong bata kapag hindi pareho ang pagiisip nila ng ibangposter at yakap paring ng yakap sa bayag ng idol nila.

 

maraming blind haters ni pacman at dinamita dito. maraming masyadong marunong. masyadong maraming satsat pero hindi naman mapatunayan. maraming daldal ng daldal na paulit ulit naman ang sinasabi.

 

kung hindi niyo kayag irespeto ang opinyon ng iba kung sino ang nanalo, wala nalang bastusan. iba ang tingin mo sa tingin ng iba.

 

kelangan bang kwestyunin kung tingin ko e nanalo si pacman si marquez?